Up as you win (For discussion)

[Kingpin]

Hey Guys!

I've been thinking about this for a long time, and it might work.

It's very simple - Pick an even chance to bet on, stick with it, and double your previous bet on a win.

I've often seen long streaks of the same even chance bet coming up in a row.
5 hits in a row (which i think happens quite often) would make you 1-2-4-8-16 Units.
And the good thing about it is that it will only cost you 1 unit per try.
If you are betting 10 dollar units, one hit per day would be enough... And of course the bigger your unit value, the shorter your progression, to reach a nice profit for the day.

I would like to hear if some of you guys have experiences with this type of betting, and/or ideas of how to implement this.

Best Reagards
Kingpin

[VLSroulette]

Kingpin, you may want to try the reversed fibonacci instead of the martingale.

Also the Guetting is an okay "up as you win". Should you not be familiar with it, I'd be glad to elaborate.

Regards,
Victor

[Kingpin]

Thx Guys!

Yeah, i guess we'll always have to deal with that F***ing house edge 
The guy who invented this game must have been a real genius.

Does somebody know of systems that actually beats the house edge...?
I think i've heard people talk about it.

@Victor
Please elaborate further my friend 

[berlinerbruce]

Hi Kingpin; ITS YOUR SCOTTICH BLACK MATE HERE LOL

try looking at OCSCARS GRIND mate

its suitable for all EC

baccarat roulette blackjack and craps etc

[lucky_strike]

Hi KingSpin, nice post.

So lets assume if we was going to play up as we win, then we would have to have some kind of positive expectation.
Now I think its better to use flat betting.

Here is some results and we play with a bankroll of 10 units.
So in every attack we make we will try to win 10 units.
But if we on the way hit one lose then we aim to win 9 units.
If we on the way hit two loses we aim to win 8 units.
If we on the way hit 3 loses we aim to win 7 units.
So we reduce our win target depending on how many loses we hit when we play.

Here is some results.

79 won
60 loss

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w 1 +1
l 1 0
w 1 +1
l 1 0
w 1 +1
w 1 +2
w 1 +3
l 1 +2
w 1 +3
l 1 +2
w 1 +3
l 1 +2
w 1 +3
w 1 +4
l 1 +3
w 1 +4
w 1 +5
l 1 +4
l 1 +3
w 1 +4
w 1 +5
w 1 +6
l 1 +5
l 1 +4
w 1 +5
l 1 +4
w 1 +5
l 1 +4
w 1 +5
l 1 +4
w 1 +5
w 1 +6
w 1 +7
w 1 +8

Here you can read about this method....

nolinks://vlsroulette.com/baccarat/one-simpel-method-you-can-use-for-flat-betting/msg28362/#msg28362

Cheers LS

[lucky_strike]

Its how you get your results thats matter not what kind of progression you use.

Cheers LS

[Kingpin]

Hi Lucky and fellow mates.

It looks interesting, i will look further into that and the oscar's grind.

Cheers mates 

[VLSroulette]

@Victor
Please elaborate further my friend 

Hi king, I have not forgotten. Guetting progression's procedure is here:
nolinks://vlsroulette.com/money-management/the-guetting-progression/

Regards,
Victor

[Kingpin]

THX Vic!

I will try out out when i get some time 

Questions:

1. It starts with a bet of 2 right?
2. When you loose second time you move back again 2 Right?
3. Is it always 2 to the left on a loss?

BR
Kingpin

[mistarlupo]

Up as you win is the is the only way to win for the simple reason that it increases the volatility of the game and gives you the opportunity to create upward spikes large enough to offset earlier losses, that do not comes from your pocket.

WannaWin,
Hello, buddy! Welcome to the family. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Would you prove your statement is true in some way, please?
Thanks in advance!

Regards,
m

[toey]

Thx Guys!

Yeah, I guess we'll always have to deal with that F***ing house edge 
The guy who invented this game must have been a real genius.

It's quite simple, on a win, they give back less than what they should.

[WannaWin]

WannaWin,
Hello, buddy! Welcome to the family. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Would you prove your statement is true in some way, please?
Thanks in advance!

Regards,
m

Thanks, I asked that I remove the new user posts to see if it was by mistake on the forum that does not give me my old messages or count, but nothing happens.

If you say I should be more specific it is the only way to win for me. my point of view.

I find that if only a little risk to earn enough money from a casino cash to exit up. The other 2 options:
- Betting the same thing all sets: flat betting.
- Betting with progression to the loss: Martingale type and other progressions stretched.

Both are doomed. A rate of payment by the unfair will never allow that to have hit the volatility necessary to recover and exit flat betting, and the other for the shortcomings of hits with this kind of progression lost as much when no hits comes, while that with the progression to the gain is lost as a minimum and you have the more chances to resist.

Now my game is pretty simple: when it's time to hit more than it touches on the designs of the game, I withdraw winning.

I lose when there is no real hits together, but now I am happy to grabbing the winning goal in my life, without increasing the loss, only to rise when I win.

Try. Lose with the colors, try to recover by increasing the gain in the dozens, you lose a lot in the dozens, looking at double-street, and then you lose a lot in the double-street, looking in the corner, then the street.

For some reason the game tends to offset the losses at some point prior to hit many times the location and played there for doing the reinvest to leave in profit or recovering much of the loss.

Get used to losing many hauls to recover in a few sets of focused gains, without spending of own pocket and exit ruined, but the same money from the casino to reach the win goal.

I go to the casino to play and get lucky I win. Don't get lucky, don't get the bankrupt!! Up as you win is the safe way to play for the pocket too.

Greetings,
Wannawin

[WannaWin]

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