Sometimes I think I waste some of the members time, I dont really care about my time. I have a question that is VERY important and I am NOT out to embarrass anyone. Most will not answer this question.
On AVERAGE, what is your BR walking into the casino? Not the amount you wish you could bring. Not the amount you know you should bring. If your average is like $250, there's no need reading my threads. lol
The reason I ask, I'm trying to create more affordable progressions (if thats your thing) but I keep running into the SAME problem >>> Time is money! Using dollars as units, its difficult to understand why someone would be ok NETTING $29 after two hours of betting? Help me out here, give me some insight. Ken
I have a question for you, Ken. How long is your average session?
Somehow I knew you would be the first one here. Session? I dont bet with the same definitions. If I lose my entire BR, I go home. lol I can give an example I guess. For a 56 step progression (2 numbers) my average win is on the 33rd try. If you are more specific, I can answer better. So you won't answer MY question? Ken
The BR I take is meaningless, I have a positive expectation game. I can win with any amount, within reason.
You should be in politics.
gambling for me is a past time. i do not depend on gambing for my income. i would be sleeping in the park if i did. i take two or three hundred dollars and play for a few hours. it is very relaxing as if i win or lose. the rent is paid the fridge is full. i have never met anybody who could live on gambling. the thing about roulette is no matter what system you use the day comes when you crash, good kluck,
"I take two or three hundred dollars and play" >>> Now thats an answer, thank you. "no matter what system you use the day comes when you crash" >>> I agree 10000000%. What about, if your method starts to tank, bail and keep whatever NET you made from it? Start working on a NEW method or try tweaking a method that worked well. One thing I have never said, I good method works for years and years. Ken
You don't need a big bankroll - If you work the method with increase You can start with $300 first week 50% on average up per day - day 1 +$150; day 2 + $150; day 3 + $150; day 4 + $150; day 5 +150 total up $750.
The next week play double of the previous bet. If lose go done till $450 in total $300 start BR + $150 profit. Start from lower bet and work BR to profit. When double profit to BR increase units to double.
No progression - flat bet rules!
If progressions work rather wait for say 3 losing streaks and start to play. Why play progression if you know you might lose?
Usually I go to the casino with no less than 200 units. For $5 that would be like $1000.
If one has a winning system he can start low and after a few weeks he could double the bankroll and then (by doubling his unit size) double it again and again and again. If one has a winning system, one can turn a $1000 starting bankroll into $50,000 in a few months, by doubling the unit size when doubling the bankroll. Doubling bankroll and then doubling unit size gives exponential growth. It's like playing the even chances and let it ride, and winning all the time. That's why the most important thing is not how much you win per hour, but if you win consistently.
For serious play I take $4000, and leave $8000 at home. That way if I lose the $4000, I can return at least twice before I'm out of the game. This particular strategy takes about five hours to complete a session, and nets about $700. I lose the four grand on average about once every ten sessions. It is a not for the faint hearted, no guts no glory type thing.
For fun play I take $500, ready to lose the lot, and continue until the free drinks make my play too sloppy (everything else too), and then I leave with whatever I've got.
Enjoy your roulette.
"You don't need a big bankroll" >>> Absolutely TRUE but I have no interest bringing home $200. I might as well stay in bed. Ken
It is funny,but you knock your price right.Today a friend played 3000 units and gain 5000 units profit equivalent 410 dollars,for us is lot of money equivalent 1 month work..but then again in your case if you made 200 dollars every day,5 days 1000 dollars will that be not good enough for you??
Seykid.
$410, thats cool. 1K over 5 days? No thanks. Alot of my NET wins (one day) are $800-2K. Ken
I lose the four grand on average about once every ten sessions.>>
Good grief! :o :o :o :o :o
My bankroll is 50 units, flat-betting, one unit per bet.
My normal bankroll is about $800, usually split into two sessions.
Quote from: Spike on September 26, 2009, 06:06:23 PM
I lose the four grand on average about once every ten sessions.>>
Good grief! :o :o :o :o :o
Yep, that's about right, but I win at least 7000 over the other nine sessions.
I don't play it every day, maybe twice a week, but I lost the four grand two sessions in a row some months back... ouch!
So I went almost every day for two weeks and clawed it all back + $400... now that was a grind!
I don't play it every day, maybe twice a week, but I lost the four grand two sessions in a row some months back... ouch!>>>
The problem is, the longer you play, the more things will even out the chances that you'll have 3 losing sessions in a row will increase. Like it or not, the house edge is relentless in wanting to even things out. People have been known to play for years, though, before it catches you. Nobody can sit under the Sword of Damacles forever.
Quote from: Spike on September 26, 2009, 09:46:51 PM
I don't play it every day, maybe twice a week, but I lost the four grand two sessions in a row some months back... ouch!>>>
The problem is, the longer you play, the more things will even out the chances that you'll have 3 losing sessions in a row will increase...
You are absolutely right. That's why I keep $8000 at home. The day I lost the other 8G's is the day that particular game is over. Between now and then, I will have made and spent a sh*t load of money.
I'm ready for it!
...I have other games.
Quote from: Spike on September 26, 2009, 09:46:51 PM
I don't play it every day, maybe twice a week, but I lost the four grand two sessions in a row some months back... ouch!>>>
The problem is, the longer you play, the more things will even out the chances that you'll have 3 losing sessions in a row will increase. Like it or not, the house edge is relentless in wanting to even things out. People have been known to play for years, though, before it catches you. Nobody can sit under the Sword of Damacles forever.
Interesting.Then how are you bloody sitting under Sword of Damacles
and survive the blade of it????Or you maybe a magician or invisible??
Maybe you should show your tricks Spike,without being contra-productive
all the time..............................Iboba 8) 8)
Then how are you bloody sitting under Sword of Damacles
and survive the blade of it????>>>
That didn't take long. Its because the method I use starts over with every spin, every session is exactly equal to the last session. Putting the chips randomly on the board accomplishes the same thing, but isn't a very smart way to play.
@Bombus >> I like your style of posting *HERE*. Polite and classy. Thats not a rip, its a compliment sir. Funny.... SCAMMER STEVE, Number Six and even Poit, post just a bit different HERE, odd. Ken
Quote from: Mr J on September 26, 2009, 10:30:09 PM
@Bombus >> I like your style of posting *HERE*. Polite and classy. Thats not a rip, its a compliment sir. Funny.... SCAMMER STEVE, Number Six and even Poit, post just a bit different HERE, odd. Ken
Don't tempt me, Ken... lol
I am serious, you have GREAT posts HERE. Ken
My current strategy uses 20 units.
"My current strategy uses 20 units" >>> How much are your units? Ken
Who plays with less than purple units?? :sarcastic:
NICE! :dance1:
Quote from: Spike on September 26, 2009, 10:20:00 PM
Then how are you bloody sitting under Sword of Damacles
and survive the blade of it????>>>
That didn't take long. Its because the method I use starts over with every spin, every session is exactly equal to the last session. Putting the chips randomly on the board accomplishes the same thing, but isn't a very smart way to play.
I do it every night for long on the same wheel
with balanced chip progression/not units/...and
a fact is that either side of my bets always even up
at the end at some point.Did play a method last month and it
took 3 weeks before it level up,lots of money and nervs involved,
but at the end come up as a winner,anyhow.Wouldn't advise it
to anybody without a large BR,patience and a nerv.
O ye putting the chips randomly on the board isn't very smart,no Sir.
It's like playing a lottery.See such players every night walking out
broke..................................Iboba 8)
Quote from: Marven on September 26, 2009, 08:18:52 PM
My bankroll is 50 units, flat-betting, one unit per bet.
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Very sincere and modest.Like that.
............................Iboba 8) 8)
Quote from: Mr J on September 26, 2009, 10:30:09 PM
@Bombus >> I like your style of posting *HERE*. Polite and classy. Thats not a rip, its a compliment sir. Funny.... SCAMMER Steve, Number Six and even Poit, post just a bit different HERE, odd. Ken
Now that Steve owns this forum, I do advise you to not refer to him as "SCAMMER Steve".
Thanks
How many times do we have to go through this? I'm so tired of it! It's driving me nuts! FFS it is MR Scammer Steve
How about the "Big Scambino!" hahaha! Scammer Steve seems over-used and unoriginal. I think everyone agrees.
::) ok :yes:
Yeah scammer steve is a bit stale. How about Scamorama?
You guys are either BORED or LOOKIN for a fight, one of the two. Its February 3rd and Poit quotes something from September 26th. ROFL Ken
Quote from: Mr J on February 04, 2010, 06:01:41 AM
You guys are either BORED or LOOKIN for a fight, one of the two. Its February 3rd and Poit quotes something from September 26th. ROFL Ken
Hug?
You keep doing..."whatever it is you do in life" Poit and I'll keep winning. Have a good day/night. Ken
Quote from: Mr J on February 04, 2010, 06:54:58 AM
You keep doing..."whatever it is you do in life" Poit and I'll keep winning. Have a good day/night. Ken
Deal
Interesting topic. I recently returned from a 7 day Caribbean cruise on one of the Royal Caribbean ships. I really enjoy playing roulette. The minimum bet on the American roulette table is only $1 on the inside numbers. I generally bet the last 5 numbers that appeared with no progression. My bankroll is limited to $100 per session. I played 3 sessions of maybe 1 to 2 hours, ended up winning -50, +80, & +70 for a net of $100 for the cruise. The 8 showed 5 times in 18 spins in the last session. The croupier in the last session was very experienced and said his largest pay out was $250,000 in Brussels Belgium in his last job. It seemed like he could hit that sector when ever he wanted to!
Quote from: Davey-Jones on February 04, 2010, 02:37:31 AM
How about the "Big Scambino!"...
Very Italian.
Big Scamboni sounds more imposing though, almost scary!
But it should have more of a Greek flavour...
Big Scamonopolous
Big Scametheriou
Big Scamoutsolitis
Big Scamdreadis
Big Scamapadakis
Big Scamapapageorgiou
:thumbsup:
:) Bombus, good point. Lots of great names. Scamonopolous is MUCH more appropriate but I've shortened and applied it. I had to make that change.
This is how an proffesional would do it or how i do it.
I have just put 1K on an Bettson account.
Now there is two things i want, as many chips as i can get for my money, low value and playing with winnings as soon as i can.
That way i can relax and harvest with out any worrys.
Patrick
I usually have a bankroll of $300
$100 to play a roulette system
$100 to play keno
$100 because I know I always blow my budget, and for food and coffee.
THANK YOU FreeRoulette and Lucky Strike! Ken
I like 200 units on Roulette and $50 for the slot machines.
Quote from: Scamopolous on February 05, 2010, 08:14:31 AM
:) Bombus, good point. Lots of great names. Scamonopolous is MUCH more appropriate but I've shortened and applied it. I had to make that change.
Hahahahahahahaha!
What can I say.... it's perfect! :lol:
What about;
Sir Scamalot
Well that would be good too but bombus is right in that it needed a greek flavor
lol.. who changed my status to 'Perseverant Member'?
meaning;
"steady persistence in a course of action, a purpose, a state, etc., esp. in spite of difficulties, obstacles, or discouragement."
I sure didnt change it - guess it was automatic. If I did it myself, it would have read "Girl Private OCD"
Hey ya'll I'm new to the board and wish I would have found it years ago. As for the question of bankroll I like to take $500 to $1000 with me. However, I don't play it all at once. No sense in the casino knowing how much I have in pocket on walk up. But I play enough at my favorite spots that they know how much I am willing to play. For the record, i'll usually double and on rare occasion triple my buy-in. I'd be lying if I said losses didn't happen but they do (fortunately less than the wins!) :pleasantry:
For the record, I'll usually double and on rare occasion triple my buy-in.>>>
WOW! How much are you selling your system for?
Yep.....any post now, its comin. >:D Ken
Since I play online mostly, I have the flexibility to put even 10cents as unit but I think a moderate gambling requires atleast 500 units whether it is cent/pence/dollar/euro/pound, similarly if someone wants to play outrageous gambling, I mean to say like a pro, anything between 1000 to 5000 units would do, otherwise it is a wastage of your time and efforts. How about you Ken?
Hey Ken,
You net $800- $2k a day? That is awesome.
You should re-word that. Ken
i used to say whats good punting a hundred dollars.the barbers cut 10 heads for 120. and then pay tax. a dollar is a lot if you are broke.