Enough is enough...

[seykid29]

Hi all,quite some days i dont post in any thread,or new topic.I know the subject of playing long run is a long old issue,but it still nag me to think concentration,proper knowledge,a good system cant see you through.Isnt short run,playing long run..Another thing that bemuse me is the long threaded topic for systems that rely on randomness and maybe that still runs long,im now more than sure the Grail Of Synchronization is among the best way to go.

[iboba]

---Grail of synchronisation?

Meaning?.........................Iboba

[seykid29]

Hi Iboba,
One question,do you ALWAYS stick to a strategy at the table,or you might change according to the wheel?
Seykid.

[TwoCatSam]

Trust me on this one...........

Short runs added together make long runs.  There is no such thing as a short run, actually.  There are only bits and pieces of the infinite run.  The run has no beginning nor end.  The run is Alpha and Omega.  The run is eternal.

I shall now pass the plate!

Sam

[Landis]

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[iboba]

Hi Iboba,
One question,do you ALWAYS stick to a strategy at the table,or you might change according to the wheel?
Seykid.

In my local casino I change about 10 diff.methods throughout the night.Why?
Cause a Big Brothers are watching your play/especially if there is not enough
players.....o yes be sure of that/and very soon they no what you are playing.
And now one question for all of you;
IS IT POSSIBLE TO MANIPULATE WHEEL BY REMOTE WAY??
Would like to hear your unswers on this...........Iboba

[Jakkalsdraai]

I suppose it is possible to control a wheel in other words cheat. I suppose it also depends where you play. I do however not for one second believe that they would cheat.

Randomness of the wheel is all that is needed.

I think our brains look to place things in order and we look for the same order within randomness, which of course is not suppose to exist. (Some guys will say differently, Gizmo comes to mind as well as Spike). I'm not saying they are wrong.

I am saying that we would look at a selection of past spins and create a system accordingly (that works to those spins off course). We will go to the casino and hey it might work for a while then crash. And we think why the hell did that happen? The wheel is rigged. Meantime it was just randomness doing it's thing.

Back to Gizmo and Spike and whoever is in that church. What they do differently (and this might be of interest to you Seakid) is that they actually do change with the wheel by using there so-called educated guessing. I have thought about this alot. These guys create groups of numbers (12 number groups) You could say they create 5 different groups. These groups are tracked. Somewhere a group will lag way behind and later hit alot right? It should not cause it's randomn but it does.

Try this for instance. Make up a group of any 24 numbers. Also dot down the remaining 12 numbers. Now track both these sets of numbers ove 300 spins. I assure you you will see groupings. more importantly. One would excpect the 24 number group to hit twice as much as the 12 number group. That off course will not happen. The 24 number group might hit much more than 2 to 1. Then later the 12 number group will have to catch up. That is just how it is.

So do they rig wheels causing you to loose. I don't think so. I think that you might just be on a downside at that moment. Betting maybe on 24 numbers but the other 12 numbers are catching up at that time. Making you feel like you just cannot hit.

Just my humble opinion.

Cheers
Jakk

BTW. I like Ken's 2 number system

[simon]

In my local casino I change about 10 diff.methods throughout the night.Why?
Cause a Big Brothers are watching your play/especially if there is not enough
players.....o yes be sure of that/and very soon they no what you are playing.
And now one question for all of you;
IS IT POSSIBLE TO MANIPULATE WHEEL BY REMOTE WAY??
Would like to hear your unswers on this...........Iboba

............ anyone who writes this could not have spent much time playing roulette, as there is no need to disguise anything you are doing at the roulette table in any way, at any time,  for any reason, even if you spent hour after hour there day after day (which I have in the past), and there is no need for the casino to manipulate the wheel in any way, so they can't and they don't.  Any casino I've been to would not care if you sat there with books, notes and diagrams and told everyone around you what you are doing.  Any casino I've been to would never have any reason to  manipulate the wheel or cheat anyone-- the zeroes on the wheel and a level unbiased wheel is all they need for the greatest money making machine in the world.  Iboba you are dreaming if you think the casino is worried about you and your methods that you think you have to keep changing or they'll "catch on to you," and if you think they would "remotely control the wheel."

[iboba]

Jakk mate,
Believe me know what am talking about.What you explained I find it quite usual,
but the things that are happening lately at my local casino/of 3 around/where usually playing
things are really queer.
Playing there for long,and am constant winner on the long run.In any other casino I would have bee banned,
but since it is government own they have not right to ban you here,unless you cheat.
Lately I just can not win on the method I did earlier for long.Do you know why????They started to cheat,but how?
So I started to observe things more closely,swapping diff.methods throughout a night.And the other night I deliberatly
started playing a method  on which am constantly losing lately.....After about 40-50 spins was doing well,but then a pit boss/whom I suspect /come to the table watched about 10 spins then went to his office....At the time I was after
DS-2,4,5,.......AND IT STARTED SPIN AFTER A SPIN.....DS-1,3,6,....and after 5-6 spins I put a large bet on DS-1,3,6,
instead and won.Now imagine DS-1,3.6,spuning 34 times in the row.You never see that on any permanences.No sir.
............................................................Iboba

[seykid29]

Grail of synchronization i meant changing strategies to match pattern/wheel..it would look like you are playing sprinkler method..camouflage in a way.

[TwoCatSam]

IS IT POSSIBLE TO MANIPULATE WHEEL BY REMOTE WAY?

Just to show my my brain works.....

I thought he mean could the player manipulate the wheel through telekinesis!

I think I can do it, but I'm not sure!  

On another note...........

Thank you, Landis. 

Sam

[iboba]

In my local casino I change about 10 diff.methods throughout the night.Why?
Cause a Big Brothers are watching your play/especially if there is not enough
players.....o yes be sure of that/and very soon they no what you are playing.
And now one question for all of you;
IS IT POSSIBLE TO MANIPULATE WHEEL BY REMOTE WAY??
Would like to hear your unswers on this...........Iboba

............ anyone who writes this could not have spent much time playing roulette, as there is no need to disguise anything you are doing at the roulette table in any way, at any time,  for any reason, even if you spent hour after hour there day after day (which I have in the past), and there is no need for the casino to manipulate the wheel in any way, so they can't and they don't.  Any casino I've been to would not care if you sat there with books, notes and diagrams and told everyone around you what you are doing.  Any casino I've been to would never have any reason to  manipulate the wheel or cheat anyone-- the zeroes on the wheel and a level unbiased wheel is all they need for the greatest money making machine in the world.  Iboba you are dreaming if you think the casino is worried about you and your methods that you think you have to keep changing or they'll "catch on to you," and if you think they would "remotely control the wheel."

Simon dear,
You aren't paid  from casinos by the way.
From the systems you are presenting here one would pressume you do.
All world and universe is remotely controled,let alone one casino.

[pighead]

Cheating is possible.. Not sure why a legal casino would risk their license in order to defeat a professional player???

[simon]

actually I have only been going to the same two casinos for many years so I shouldn't say that every casino doesn't care what you do and no casino tries to cheat you, etc.  I can only say that at the casinos I go to, the dealers are friendly and they do not try to deliberately "beat" anyone as they are mainly concentrating on calculating the payoffs in their heads (which can get tricky when players are piling tall stacks of chips on the board) and the house edge has always done a great job of consistenly relieving people of their money, hour after hour.  also I have done a lot of note-taking at the tables, knowing full well the eye in the sky was probably zooming right in on my notes (but probably found the girl's cleavage sitting next to me more interesting.)  I have even openly timed wheels with my watch when I was trying my hand at vb (which didn't work out.)  point is I have openly tried many systems at the wheel, and the casinos obviously did not care (actually, they welcome system players.)  I always thought that if I had found a successful system and they barred me from using it, then I would say "fine, great, I'll write a book about how and why I got barred from the roulette tables."  but turns out that hasn't happened, and I have not had to write that book.  and the casino is still ahead, if we are keeping score, me vs. the casino.

[seykid29]

THE sytem is every gamblers dream,yes THE one.We could say This is it(no pun to Michael Jackson)

[seykid29]

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