Miro Zirdum is a scammer and liar (fake name FORESTER). Report him.

[telden]

I know forester you guys are talking about.          I bought his ffz computer years ago.        

I won twice with it but later lost it all and more.          I did everything right but the dvd and real play are very different.          I think he is a scammer for sure and I was going to report him but lost interest.          I only paid about $500 anyway.        

From his competitor I found his real name is MIRO ZIRDUM and he lives at **** removed**** and his home phone is **** removed****.          I even managed to dig up an photo of him and even a pic of his crappy house I will attach.          He even looks like a slick creep.          I hope someone can get a refund with this.        

When I last tried to log in to his private forum my account didnt exist but not worth kicking a stink over it.        

But when I was in the private areas I never found any player who couold make winnings with it for real.          All I knew was miro was saying some people were making thousands.          It is all bullshit and other people I spoke with think the same.    

Again he is doing it on his open forum saying a player is making thousands and thousands with so much money he cant even pass through airport terminals, but he says that players is scared to come on the forum so nobody can talk to him.          Bullshit.         I never spoke to anybody who make anything.       all the while saying everyone else is a scammer.          The stuff on his forum is the same for years.          he is a scammer.          Probably mark howe and stefano are also and they never use their computer to make a dollar.        

like another player viper said on the forum, visual ballistics is better than a computer.          he got banned but looks like is back now.          I wont get into is more but if you can find a wheel that is very easy to win on then thats different.          anybody can get the same results using ballistics without any stupid computer because it just find same time when there is the same ball time to go.      Probably he improved his computer now but fact is he sold me stuff.

I will never buy a computer again.          I dont think any of them work outside a controlled test or dvd movie.        

I know the forum owner Steve would disagree but it is how it is.          If you call them a scam or not whatever, point is you cant make money with them except maybe one  a perfect wheel same with ballistics

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Here is his photo and where to get your money back
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[Steve]

Telden, by posting images and private information you will open a can of worms, so I'll have to remove it. Also please check your private messages.

[telden]

Why a re you helping him???   I thought you would let me post that for sure!

[telden]

meet in chat??

[telden]

Here is photo that was removed not on your website

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[telden]

can you fix my first post now?

[Steve]

On another note Telden, dont assume all computers are the same. It takes just a few hours to code what foresters computers do.

And sorry no I wont add any content for you. You have to do that yourself, provided you adhere to the rules. As discussed, the limit is only what he imposes for his own sites.

[Steve]

as I said, you cannot post information on the forum like that. You can have your own link, but remotely hosted or not, do not post his private information. If you change the image again or put it directly on the forum, then I have no option but to remove you. You can have your own link explaining your experiences, but not linked to information like that.

[telden]

that doesnt make sense because bagos site has all that information also and he has the link all over the site.    You said I could do the same

[Steve]

Sorry I should have been more specific. Do not post private addresses, photos, or phone numbers. And do not post links to them.

You can:

* post links to your own pages provided they dont contain any of the above material
* post such links in your signature
* tell your story as you see fit

Where did you get that photo from anyway? I've never seen it before, but it is indeed him.

[telden]

google images, google maps.   there is a site that has him in a photo with a group of strange looking peeps.    got his name and address from gamblersglen. com.   Am I allowed to say that???   I think google lists even what I have for dinner 

[bombus]

I think google lists even what I have for dinner 

Yes it does...

you don't actually eat that swill do you?

[telden]

swill? I had to google it!

I googled you and got 12 pages of bee photos

[Steve]

Telden, I really dont want to play his games

[telden]

steve whatever

did anyone else here have a computer? any computer.

I am interested to know especially if anyone made any money with any computer or even visual ballistics.   so far I think it is all bullshit except maybe some wheels you can never find are ok.   I dont think it is realistic.   send me a message if you like I wont tell anyone if you want

[telden]

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