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Kelly · March 05, 2011, 04:23:19 PM

ken im amazed that you haven`t done some serious experimenting instead of just the for ever on going day dreaming.

+2 is NOT double so hard to achive as +1, its HARDER. It all comes down to probability. +3 is wayyy out of reach. There are a method based on Marigny de Grilleu where a player would enter a casino with a bankroll of 3 - 5 of 1000 FF (French francs) units and a win goal of +1. With some 5 - 8 placed bets in one night. In the eighties there were rumours about a team of Marigny players at the Cote da Zur that really hit it off big time. But the rumours died and the players dissapeared. Later some programmers tested the system on permanenzes and ended up with nothing. I have testet several systems with a goal of just +1.

It CANT be done. If thats your ultimate dream, go do some serious testing. The smart guys will do it on paper, the not so smart ones will go out and lose some money, just to make sure that they were wrong.

Nathan Detroit · March 05, 2011, 04:39:16 PM

Kelly ,

Where did the programmers obtain this system in order for them to test it ?

Thanks .

Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

Mr J · March 05, 2011, 04:49:52 PM

"+2 is NOT double so hard to achive as +1, its HARDER" >>> Yeah, no kidding, so what? And +530 is tougher than +4, ok.

"+3 is wayyy out of reach" >>> Just so I understand you. In 300-400 spins, +3 units (regardless of size) is near impossible? I dont think we are on the same page. So if I lost 100 times on the EC's and won 103 times on the EC's, thats +3, correct? lol (Here comes the 5.26%, any second now, wait for it).

I truely wonder how many people on ALL the boards PLAY roulette (not RNG) and the ones that sit at home with a caculator. I'm beginning to "see the light" (sound familiar?), I think VERY FEW actually play this game. Not trying to insult anyone but thats how I feel. Testing? I have played LIVE (now over 26 times) with a win goal of +3, I have no loses. I did it all based on catching a streak. Its posted, I'm not posting it again. In around 30 minutes, I'm off to the casino to play *IT* again. The spins might be a bit slower because its Sat**day. Not sure what to say Kelly? Then I'm lying but ........still leaving in 30 minutes.

Ken

Kelly · March 05, 2011, 05:13:13 PM

Nathan there is a german version here
nolinks://roulette-magazin.com/subcontent/bube2.php?fr=2

The original french version from 1926 is no longer in print but is sometimes bein traded on ebay. Its 389 pages. I think the german version is boiled down to the most nessecary.

Of course you do ken, i wouldnt expect less. 50 other people tryed in seriousness both in the casino and on paper and failed both places, but of course you will suceed In 2 years time you will have 200 sessions and a plus of 600 units. (Cough).......Talking about being full of it.

Nathan Detroit · March 05, 2011, 06:10:59 PM

Kelly,

Thanks for the link.

N.D.

I have cookies · March 06, 2011, 03:48:28 AM

QuoteThe smart guys will do it on paper

And enjoy the gambler fallacy

Mr J · March 06, 2011, 03:23:53 PM

Question for you Kelly. Lets pretend for one minute that I'm not lying. Lets say I really am doing quite 'well' playing this game with the big bad 5.26% HA. Should I quit the game as of today? Either never play again or study AP? There is a little sarcasm in the question but not much, its a serious question.

Ken

Mr J · March 06, 2011, 03:29:54 PM

"In 2 years time you will have 200 sessions and a plus of 600 units" >>> Are you asking me or telling me? Yesterday, won again. +3 units, big fu**in deal? I'll tell you what my ORIGINAL plan was gonna be. (lol) I was only going to do $50 units and shoot for $500. +10, OMG, I never would of heard the end of the that. I ADMIT, +10 pretty damn tough and I'm glad I am sticking to +3 in 300-400 spins. I dont know which is worse? You putting me down or you putting yourself down. You should question yourself more than me, IMO.

Ken

Kelly · March 06, 2011, 03:45:45 PM

By all means carry on with what you are doing. You have been winning playing favourites, sleepers, progressions, flat bets for 4 years, you name it you simply cant lose. The winnings keeps piling up at your end. Next time the casino will probably tell you to stay away until they have negotiated new credits with their banks.

Why would i ever think you were lying ? (Cough)

Maybe you recognize this question: Why should we just believe you are doing so well as a player ? Playing startegys that can be verifyed to lose on real spins. (Just not the spins you play of course)

And you actually still has the believe that most newbees stick to: "As long as i can just hang around until im in profit, THEN im off." Asuming you are not lying, i asume you have a hard time picking your winter residence: Barbados or Bahamas or more likely, Thailand.

You lying ? Naaa...................

Mr J · March 06, 2011, 03:47:19 PM

Quote from: schoenpoetser on March 05, 2011, 12:33:14 PM
Ïs there a difference between method and system???.I am curious of your clear solution of the riddle.

I just saw this. Sorry about that schoenpoetser. I have always stated, calling something a system implies that it can never lose or rarely lose. A method (as I call them) is more of a strategy way to play. I know ahead of time, there will be losing days/weeks/months with a method and I'm fine with that. Keep in mind, these are my definitions.

Ken

Mr J · March 06, 2011, 03:55:17 PM

(@Kelly)....."By all means carry on with what you are doing. You have been winning playing favourites, sleepers, progressions, flat bets for 4 years, you name it you simply cant lose" >>> Please quote correctly. I have never said, I dont lose. You failed to mention that. I have posted *MANY* times, playing sleepers has been more of a pastime for me, I do MUCH LESS, MUCH LESS, MUCH LESS of it, please quote correctly. I also have stated, I play much less progressions now COMPARED to in the past. The number of bets is still around the same, for years. 2-4 numbers. I've been playing much more flat betting lately, please quote correctly.

Ken

Mr J · March 06, 2011, 03:56:42 PM

@Kelly >> So does that mean you won't answer my question?

Ken

Kelly · March 06, 2011, 04:07:10 PM

You are a bit slow aren`t you ?

Question
Quote:
"Question for you Kelly. Lets pretend for one minute that I'm not lying. Lets say I really am doing quite 'well' playing this game with the big bad 5.26% HA. Should I quit the game as of today? Either never play again or study AP? There is a little sarcasm in the question but not much, its a serious question."

Answer:
Quote:
"By all means carry on with what you are doing."

PS: Im so sorry if i haven`t kept myself informed properly on what you do less and what you do most lately.

Mr J · March 06, 2011, 04:23:32 PM

Ok, I'll be more specific. I thought you had more class Kelly. You sound more and more like Caleb everyday. Are you sharing your log in information here with Caleb?

I thought you could answer me without sounding like a smarta**. My mistake.

Ken

Kelly · March 06, 2011, 04:35:21 PM

Like i said on another board, im done answering any questions from you serious. Been there, done that. All i got was a non commentary as if you either didn`t read what i wrote, could comprehend it, or simply didn`t care about your own question in the first place. Like here. What do you care what i think you should do ?

Why didn`t you answer my question at all ? Why should we believe you are such a gifted and successfull strategy player ?

Kelly · March 06, 2011, 04:35:21 PM

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