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Wheel bias on airball?

Started by Red74, April 03, 2012, 12:59:49 PM

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Red74

Hi, sorry for posting here about wheel bias rather than in the specific section but wanted to have it read :biggrin:
My question is if wheel bias can exist on airball roulette wheels (and what's to say it can't?) then how do casinos counteract this if the machines are automated and presumably operating constantly?

A second question is about why certain numbers always seem to be either in the cold or hot numbers section. What explanation could there be that a number is either sleeping for ages or hitting like mad, rather than a less polarised progression? I have seen a couple of numbers like this on an airball machine online (like every time i log on for several days, these numbers either blow hot or cold and always do so together!) and wonder why and if this could be exploited, ie. wait for it to sleep and when it hits, then keep on betting on it to catch it's hitting streak. 

:D

ReDsQuaD

Quote from: Red74 on April 03, 2012, 12:59:49 PM
Hi, sorry for posting here about wheel bias rather than in the specific section but wanted to have it read :biggrin:
My question is if wheel bias can exist on airball roulette wheels (and what's to say it can't?) then how do casinos counteract this if the machines are automated and presumably operating constantly?

The physics of an auto wheel and a normal live wheel are the exact same,so yes.

A second question is about why certain numbers always seem to be either in the cold or hot numbers section. What explanation could there be that a number is either sleeping for ages or hitting like mad, rather than a less polarised progression? I have seen a couple of numbers like this on an airball machine online (like every time I log on for several days, these numbers either blow hot or cold and always do so together!) and wonder why and if this could be exploited, ie. wait for it to sleep and when it hits, then keep on betting on it to catch it's hitting streak. 

It's not possible to answer this question as there is endless reasons why this is happening. You can't exploit hot numbers, there is either a bias or there is not. If you truly believe there is a bias, then you will need to take thousands of spins.

Problem with this, if its an online Auto wheel, chances are its recalibrated most days.


mcmonaco

It is happening cause airball machine repeats certain trends
continously/I play it on almost daily basis-live/as have more then
80000 spins recorded,but it can repeat after 100 or even 500 spins.
For instance 3,27,18,16,24.....then after 100 or more spins it goes
3,27,29,33,5......and there is many such combos happening.
Must have a good eye and readable spreadsheet.You also must know
that every pocket is magnetised and the ball have another still ball
inside plastic one.Have a close look when the ball stops in the pocket.
It stands firm in the middle of the pocket,touching no side walls,but after
the spoon number is anounced it slips down.

Red74

Quote from: ReDsQuaD on April 03, 2012, 01:27:29 PM


Thanks ReD,

But how do they recalibrate an automated machine that is running 24h/day? Do they have any downtime to do this?

Red74

Quote from: mcmonaco on April 03, 2012, 01:56:41 PM
It is happening cause airball machine repeats certain trends
continously/I play it on almost daily basis-live/as have more then
80000 spins recorded,but it can repeat after 100 or even 500 spins.
For instance 3,27,18,16,24.....then after 100 or more spins it goes
3,27,29,33,5......and there is many such combos happening.
Must have a good eye and readable spreadsheet.You also must know
that every pocket is magnetised and the ball have another still ball
inside plastic one.Have a close look when the ball stops in the pocket.
It stands firm in the middle of the pocket,touching no side walls,but after
the spoon number is anounced it slips down.

Hi MC,

Are you saying the results are pre-determined or the trends are just a result of random? Where I play it shows the hottest 7 and coldest 7 numbers. Often the coldest have hit 1.4% in last 500 spins and the hottest around 4.4%. These machines also seem to hit consecutive numbers more frequently than chance alone, often seeing this happen twice in 30 spins. Do you play trends and is this profitable for you?

ReDsQuaD

Quote from: Red74 on April 03, 2012, 02:46:05 PM
Thanks ReD,

But how do they recalibrate an automated machine that is running 24h/day? Do they have any downtime to do this?

These types of wheels running 24/7 will have built in self calibrating mechanism. Casinos would not ever ever not calibrate there wheels or they are open to all kind of threats.

Has anyone seen a dealer or inspector put a spirit level over the wheel? Happened on Dublinbet a few days ago. If the wheel is tilted, the ball behaviour can become more predictable. They certainly don't do it for the fun it

mcmonaco

Quote from: Red74 on April 03, 2012, 02:46:05 PM
Thanks ReD,

But how do they recalibrate an automated machine that is running 24h/day? Do they have any downtime to do this?

they don't at all......bias here doesn't matter.....they only come and fix if some
of the windows/8 here/is not functioning.

mcmonaco

Quote from: Red74 on April 03, 2012, 02:52:10 PM
Hi MC,

Are you saying the results are pre-determined or the trends are just a result of random? Where I play it shows the hottest 7 and coldest 7 numbers. Often the coldest have hit 1.4% in last 500 spins and the hottest around 4.4%. These machines also seem to hit consecutive numbers more frequently than chance alone, often seeing this happen twice in 30 spins. Do you play trends and is this profitable for you?

---Yes they are pre-determined 100%.......throughout the playing daily session
I usually guess 6-8 numbers that will come out,loudly that other players can hear it
/even thought I don't play it/and some have made good profits only waiting for my
voice...Lol......I play continously 18 numbers E/C bet and always win...not much but
daily needs.And not inside 18 numbers.

ReDsQuaD

Quote from: mcmonaco on April 03, 2012, 03:23:27 PM
they don't at all......bias here doesn't matter.....they only come and fix if some
of the windows/8 here/is not functioning.


Ok I made that all up for the hell of it.

Mcmonaco, this topic is not relevant to Outside bet players because they/you are in a an entire different world, far from the true facts. Outside bet players cannot possibly answer your questions Red because they are outside bet players. And that is no offence to anyone, its simply the truth .

I suggest you do your own research into this and find out your self.

Hope this helps.

mcmonaco

Quote from: ReDsQuaD on April 03, 2012, 03:35:09 PM

Ok I made that all up for the hell of it.

Mcmonaco, this topic is not relevant to Outside bet players because they/you are in a an entire different world, far from the true facts. Outside bet players cannot possibly answer your questions Red because they are outside bet players. And that is no offence to anyone, its simply the truth .

I suggest you do your own research into this and find out your self.

Hope this helps.

---Can't grasp what you mean.....but I'm outside player due to my
long research of airball machine and have found out that most repeats
come on outside play...which,can't reveal this as it may not function
on the machine anybody else play on.

mcmonaco

Quote from: mcmonaco on April 03, 2012, 04:03:29 PM
---Can't grasp what you mean.....but I'm outside player due to my
long research of airball machine and have found out that most repeats
come on outside play...which,can't reveal this as it may not function
on the machine anybody else play on.

--Now I got what you meant,about fixing the wheel.
Here where I come from they really don't,as know that
from the first hand.

ReDsQuaD

Quote from: mcmonaco on April 03, 2012, 04:07:55 PM
--Now I got what you meant,about fixing the wheel.
Here where I come from they really don't,as know that
from the first hand.

I never said it was fixed. I said there is a mechanism that can change the physics of the wheel, in other words, reset it.

mcmonaco

Quote from: ReDsQuaD on April 03, 2012, 04:32:38 PM
I never said it was fixed. I said there is a mechanism that can change the physics of the wheel, in other words, reset it.

Nothing changes mechanism of the wheel/airball machine/as it is all pre-deter.
they change discs/have seen it many times/something like HDD on your computer
and they do it always each monday/am closely watching this for few years now/
morning.That is how they reset/not the wheel/putting new set of numbers in the
machine computer......Wheel,itself,they never touch.....I'm boiled and fried there
every morning...for years now.

ReDsQuaD

I think you have got very confused. We are not talking about RNG computer roulette.


mcmonaco

Quote from: ReDsQuaD on April 03, 2012, 05:35:17 PM
I think you have got very confused. We are not talking about RNG computer roulette.

-not confused....thats exactly what is there
in these airball machines my friend.
One couldn't imagine it is possible,but take
my word it is so.

mcmonaco

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