Its All About PROBABILITY

[cheese]

If you want to beat roulette, study probability. Forget progressions,
forget finding the right combination of bets on the layout. Its all
about understanding probability. Look at what Ken does, for instance.
He's successful because he makes bets based on probability. Looking
at anything else in this game is a waste of time.

[Mr J]

Yeah, years ago I would bet on the very cold number(s), assuming IT HAD TO HIT soon. That was back then, I lost ALOT of money (did have some good days). Now, I rotate the ONE hottest number in and out of the last 23 hit, all flat betting.

It might be the #16 thats hitting alot, I stay on it until it ROTATES
out of the 23 and then the #35 might 'take over' as the HOT number, I'll then bet on that etc.

Its simple and boring and you MUST have the time to play it. It could take a few hours for your BR to drop and then a few more hours for your BR to rise again. In my opinion, the fewer numbers a person plays, the more free time you must have for that method. You can NOT bet 1-3 numbers and only have two hours to play that method!!

Ken

[cheese]

But you're playing probability, not layout. Probability is
hard, you have to constantly pay attention. Its easier
to just drink a lot bet the layout. And lose.

[Far-Q]

Hello mr J,

Thank you for posting this on here.
Ive been looking at a similar bet but with slightly more numbers..up to around 3 or so.. with varying results.
Ive just tried this out over 87 spins ( I know its not a lot) and Im up 156 units (RX) flat betting.
Im sure there can be some chunky drawdowns but I can also see the potential.

Again thanks.

[jrhelp007]

Hello Cheese,

With all the respect your written statement:

"f you want to beat roulette, study probability. Forget progressions,
forget finding the right combination of bets on the layout. Its all
about understanding probability. Look at what Ken does, for instance.
He's successful because he makes bets based on probability. Looking
at anything else in this game is a waste of time".

You are wrong my friend! Why?

Because it has been shown time and again that roulette systems that rely on sequential or conditional probability have failed to produce successful results consistently. That is because, in practice, roulette is not a game of probability.

Casino roulette wheel, winning number spin outcome. At roulette each spin is a new spin and the outcome is never determined by prior spins. Therefore the probability for a possible outcome is the same for each spin and a probability advantage cannot be generated.

John

[cheese]

sequential or conditional probability

There are a few more types of probability than those two.


>>and the outcome is never determined by prior spins.>>


True. That doesn't mean prior spins don't provide clues, however.

[Ulysses]

At roulette each spin is a new spin and the outcome is never determined by prior spins.

I believe quite a few of the last spins determine the next spins. Why? Because it's not all mechanical. The dealer influences the outcome whether you or she realizes this or not.

[ll l ll l lll ll]

There are a few more types of probability than those two.


>>and the outcome is never determined by prior spins.>>


True. That doesn't mean prior spins don't provide clues, however.

Describe the other types of probability other than sequential and conditional that are meaningful.

[ReDsQuaD]

If you want to beat roulette, study probability. Forget progressions,
forget finding the right combination of bets on the layout. Its all
about understanding probability. Look at what Ken does, for instance.
He's successful because he makes bets based on probability. Looking
at anything else in this game is a waste of time.

Invalid statement. Any body who listens to this, expect to loose.

[cheese]

Invalid statement. Any body who listens to this, expect to lose.

Casinos call people like you 'casino oriented'. Its their
term for loser.

[ll l ll l lll ll]

There are a few more types of probability than those two.


>>and the outcome is never determined by prior spins.>>


True. That doesn't mean prior spins don't provide clues, however.

Straight from Wikipedia: Probability in relation to Randomness

In a deterministic universe, based on Newtonian concepts, there would be no probability if all conditions are known, (Laplace's demon). In the case of a roulette wheel, if the force of the hand and the period of that force are known, the number on which the ball will stop would be a certainty. Of course, this also assumes knowledge of inertia and friction of the wheel, weight, smoothness and roundness of the ball, variations in hand speed during the turning and so forth. A probabilistic description can thus be more useful than Newtonian mechanics for analyzing the pattern of outcomes of repeated rolls of roulette wheel.

[Bayes]

Because it has been shown time and again that roulette systems that rely on sequential or conditional probability have failed to produce successful results consistently. That is because, in practice, roulette is not a game of probability.

If you ignore physics, then what else is there apart from probability? Even with AP you're still relying on probability to some extent. Better to use probability than numerology, astrology or other superstitious nonsense.

Probability is a very abstract concept, so you can't say it doesn't 'work' or has failed to produce successful results. I agree with Ken in that it's all in the definitions. Some say that systems don't work, but what is a 'system' in regards to roulette? Your definition may be different from mine.

[ReDsQuaD]

Cheese, your just a bellend who hasn't a clue in what they are talking about.

Your the type of guy who copies and pastes from Wiki to try impress people.

Your the looser mate.

Any body who believes beating roulette is about probability, just hasn't done their research into the game.

[ll l ll l lll ll]

Cheese, your just a bellend who hasn't a clue in what they are talking about.

Your the type of guy who copies and pastes from Wiki to try impress people.

Your the loser mate.

Any body who believes beating roulette is about probability, just hasn't done their research into the game.

You don't know who 'Cheese' is.  A full time player, a consistent winner while flat betting.  Look up the member name 'Spike'  to get educated!

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[cheese]

Your the type of guy who copies and pastes from Wiki to try impress people. Your the loser mate.

Any body who believes beating roulette is about probability, just hasn't done their research into the game.

I've never copied and pasted anything from Wiki in my
life. And anybody who thinks its NOT about probability,
is clueless. All I do is research, and practice, and play.
Its 100% about probability. When you deal with random
outcomes it can't be about anything else. Probability
is all about dealing with incomplete information, thats why
there are no probability math laws. If we had complete
information, and could make unbreakable laws, there
would be no need for probability.

Sorry to go over your head, go back to reading the flip
side of the cereal box, where you obviously get all your
info.

BTW, brainiac, its you're, not 'your'. And its anybody, not
'any body'. If you want to be taken seriously, you really
need to work on the details.

[cheese]

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