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Started by rjeaton1, May 15, 2009, 05:57:46 PM

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boatran8

@Rjeaton

Hi RJ,

Hope you are fine with all this work...

I PMed you my results with this system 2 days ago... Any comments would be appreciated if you have a little time of course...

Can't wait for the RX coding...  ;)

Take care and don't stop posting even if some individuals are discouraging you... No comment

Cheers.

Learning

Hi and I am new here. . . . and yes, I am always learning.   Wish there was a link to download. . . . I would be grateful, and learn it, and study study study.   

simon

Here is the problem you are going to run into with this system:  Yes there is a high probability that in a typical cycle of 37 spins, more than 20 numbers should hit (24 is the expected), but with this system you are ONLY betting on the 37 spin cycles in which not more than 20 numbers have hit within 33 spins.  This eliminates ALL the other cycles of 37 spins that don't meet this criteria, which is why you cannot expect to capture the same probability of winning by trying to capitilize on the 24 average hit number, as this number only works when you are looking at any and all cycles of 37 spins, regardless of how many unique numbers have hit within a certain amount of spins.

I would love for this system to work so that I can run down to my local casino and play it on the roulette machines there, which are single zero wheels and one could keep clicking red against black to generate spins until the desired betting opportunity arises, but I am sure this will run into the same problem as waiting for 10 reds so you can bet black-- which is the bet will be equalized by the total of all runs that are greater than 10, and then the house edge will prevail.

But RJ won lots of fast money with it so what the hell, I'll probably try it anyway (at least I can bet less at the machines, than at the tables.)

See_Jerek


simon

so in order to know if this system wins, the question becomes, not what percent of 37 spin cycles will end with greater than 20 unique numbers (high percent), but, what percent of 37 spin cycles in which not more than 20 numbers have hit within 33 spins, will end with more than 20 unique numbers?  I don't know how to specifically calculate this, but I have a good idea what the general answer is, having been down this road before.  I believe the answer is... the total of all 37 spin cycles in which more than 20 numbers will hit within 37 spins, after not more than 20 numbers hit within 33 spins (the games you will win), will be equal to the number of 37 spin cycles in which the 20 numbers that hit within 33 spins, remain the same (keep repeating) past 37 spins (the games you will lose.)  So it will be a wash (as what always happens in roulette when you play these waiting games), and the house edge will prevail.

Now I have answered the question I asked one page back, which no one seemed interested in thinking about or responding to.  That's OK, it shows that when you ask a question and no one will answer, you will eventually be able to answer it yourself if you think about it long enough.  Am just trying to analyze the system and what will happen, to look ahead to the end of the story, rather than how it begins and goes along.  Having been down this road so many times, I'm quite certain the winning games and losing games will be a wash, and it is the house edge that gets you in the end as always.  Not saying you will definitely lose or the system is bad, perhaps the bet progression will make the winning difference, I don't know as that is a whole other thing to find out.

I hope someone will at least acknowledge this post, let me know if you follow, agree or disagree... just trying to contribute and help here....

argie

Quote from: rjeaton1 on May 17, 2009, 12:48:45 PM
Hey guys, (yes I did in fact take the download down, as I didn't see this post generating much interest, test results or suggestions...other than arguing)  with the exception of a couple of people.  I'm really happy to hear you guys read this thread and want to download the system, that makes me really happy!

I have re-posted the download here: nolinks://vlsroulette.com/downloads/?sa=view;id=380

Enjoy guys, and I can't wait to hear what you're results are!

Thanks for posting it again RJ, but there seems to be a problem because i'm still getting the same error "No download exists".

Would you be willing to send it to my email, maybe this way i'll finally get it. Let me know so i'll PM you my email.

Thanks again RJ, and sorry for the trouble.


coetser

Hi RJ

Just to give some feedback on this system.  I have been playing real money on Bet voyager using 1c bets and today after 155 spins I had no losses I did not keep track of how many wins I had but there where a few.
Playing on Bet voyager you only get a few spins without betting and then you have to place a bet, so I have been playing a 2 dozen system posted on this site recently and it works a charm while I am getting the numbers I need to start tracking for your system.

I started with 30 euro's and am up to 35. 75 euro's playing both systems, I know it is slow going as it is only 1c bets but I does me fine for now.
I must say that it is the no zero table I am playing on and I am well pleased with the results so far.
I watched your video on how to use Roulettextreme to track and am doing the same.
All I do is wait for 20 numbers or 19 numbers in some cases to be tracked and then bet on the remainder.
My progression is 1,2,4,8 and I don't mind doing it this way as it only 1c bets.

I think you are a great contribution to this forum even if these systems don't work long term but at least you are sharing and that what it's about.  I am keen to get your codes for roulettextreme when you have then and if you will share them that will be great.

Keep up the good work and I will try to save my spins for my next session, I am still learning how to use roullettextreme and will post my next session as soon as I can.

Thanks
coetser

rjeaton1

Quote from: simon on May 18, 2009, 07:13:36 AM
so in order to know if this system wins, the question becomes, not what percent of 37 spin cycles will end with greater than 20 unique numbers (high percent), but, what percent of 37 spin cycles in which not more than 20 numbers have hit within 33 spins, will end with more than 20 unique numbers?  I don't know how to specifically calculate this, but I have a good idea what the general answer is, having been down this road before.  I believe the answer is... the total of all 37 spin cycles in which more than 20 numbers will hit within 37 spins, after not more than 20 numbers hit within 33 spins (the games you will win), will be equal to the number of 37 spin cycles in which the 20 numbers that hit within 33 spins, remain the same (keep repeating) past 37 spins (the games you will lose.)  So it will be a wash (as what always happens in roulette when you play these waiting games), and the house edge will prevail.

Now I have answered the question I asked one page back, which no one seemed interested in thinking about or responding to.  That's OK, it shows that when you ask a question and no one will answer, you will eventually be able to answer it yourself if you think about it long enough.  Am just trying to analyze the system and what will happen, to look ahead to the end of the story, rather than how it begins and goes along.  Having been down this road so many times, I'm quite certain the winning games and losing games will be a wash, and it is the house edge that gets you in the end as always.  Not saying you will definitely lose or the system is bad, perhaps the bet progression will make the winning difference, I don't know as that is a whole other thing to find out.

I hope someone will at least acknowledge this post, let me know if you follow, agree or disagree... just trying to contribute and help here....

After reading what you have posted Simon, it makes absolute sense.  You're right, long term (just like every other system) this one will fail.  It is however a solid system, but that losing streak could be the very first time you sit down at the table (luckily this wasn't the case for me).  Thanks for your input, and the very clear way in which you worded it.  Makes sense.

rjeaton1

Quote from: coetser on May 18, 2009, 09:45:47 AM
Hi RJ

Just to give some feedback on this system.  I have been playing real money on Bet voyager using 1c bets and today after 155 spins I had no losses I did not keep track of how many wins I had but there where a few.
Playing on Bet voyager you only get a few spins without betting and then you have to place a bet, so I have been playing a 2 dozen system posted on this site recently and it works a charm while I am getting the numbers I need to start tracking for your system.

I started with 30 euro's and am up to 35. 75 euro's playing both systems, I know it is slow going as it is only 1c bets but I does me fine for now.
I must say that it is the no zero table I am playing on and I am well pleased with the results so far.
I watched your video on how to use Roulettextreme to track and am doing the same.
All I do is wait for 20 numbers or 19 numbers in some cases to be tracked and then bet on the remainder.
My progression is 1,2,4,8 and I don't mind doing it this way as it only 1c bets.

I think you are a great contribution to this forum even if these systems don't work long term but at least you are sharing and that what it's about.  I am keen to get your codes for roulettextreme when you have then and if you will share them that will be great.

Keep up the good work and I will try to save my spins for my next session, I am still learning how to use roullettextreme and will post my next session as soon as I can.

Thanks
coetser


Thrilled to hear you're having great results!  I couldn't be happier!  I actually have the RX coding for this system now, and as soon as I am done playing around with it I will post it for everybody.  Thanks for your inputs!

rjeaton1

Quote from: coetser on May 18, 2009, 09:45:47 AM
Hi RJ

Just to give some feedback on this system.  I have been playing real money on Bet voyager using 1c bets and today after 155 spins I had no losses I did not keep track of how many wins I had but there where a few.
Playing on Bet voyager you only get a few spins without betting and then you have to place a bet, so I have been playing a 2 dozen system posted on this site recently and it works a charm while I am getting the numbers I need to start tracking for your system.

I started with 30 euro's and am up to 35. 75 euro's playing both systems, I know it is slow going as it is only 1c bets but I does me fine for now.
I must say that it is the no zero table I am playing on and I am well pleased with the results so far.
I watched your video on how to use Roulettextreme to track and am doing the same.
All I do is wait for 20 numbers or 19 numbers in some cases to be tracked and then bet on the remainder.
My progression is 1,2,4,8 and I don't mind doing it this way as it only 1c bets.

I think you are a great contribution to this forum even if these systems don't work long term but at least you are sharing and that what it's about.  I am keen to get your codes for roulettextreme when you have then and if you will share them that will be great.

Keep up the good work and I will try to save my spins for my next session, I am still learning how to use roullettextreme and will post my next session as soon as I can.

Thanks
coetser


I forgot to mention this in my last response, another way to track without having to play another system is to just put one unit on red and one unit on black (but the zero will burn you, so having another system to play in the meantime isn't a bad idea).  Just a thought.

rjeaton1

Alright, here is the results I'm having with the RXtreme coding.

If I let it autoplay for more than 500 spins at a time, I almost always end up with a loss.  If I play it however like I did for real money at an online casino (for only 150 spins or so at a time, stop, then come back for another 150 spins or so) I (so far) always come out ahead.  Weird...

Volador


rjeaton1


rjeaton1

I modified this system to an even further extent.  If you'd like to see the results you can do so here: nolinks://vlsroulette.com/testing-zone/10k-spins-no-lost-sessions-plus2k-units-video/

It's interesting, I promise.

rjeaton1

If anybody would like the un-modified version of this 4 spins to win system in RXtreme's coding language (for automated use) let me know via email or PM.  I don't want to post it here for anybody to download.

Thanks!

Also, don't forget to check out the results of this system modified.  You can see those results using the link above or going to the thread in the "testing zone" of the forum.

rjeaton1

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