Poll
Consider it done Matty.....
BTW, congrats on that 1st pre-season win ;D
Go to get them while I can dude.....[smiley=thumbsup.gif]
You really are a high roller Sammy...... :o
Enjoy the Champagne & Caviar...... :o
And don't forget to get the hired help to peel you a grape....... ;)
Hi mate, the online account was joyland casino (.com) it has been skipping pretty much lately, when it skips at the end of spin, ball magically appears landed at a number already, and it fast forwards a bit.
May be only my internet end being "jammed" by received data...
We may need to make a serious study with several accounts connected at once and online via MSN chat and see if everyone gets this suspicious skipping at the same time (saying it by msn). Perhaphs telling where the ball was and where it ends "magically" after skipping, also reporting on the fast-wordward thingy.
I know tampering with the number can't be done on a per-account basis as people would get different numbers, but still the video can be tampered such way and broadcast the least paying number overall for all players in selected spins. Sadly this way, only the dealer will know shall she get the number displayed different... Just conspiration theory here okay. I'm not ensuring anything, just have talked with a fellow lady from the forum who ensured me insider info of it operating in such a way.
Anyone else with a joyland account? Experienced something similar?
Regards.
Hey Victor ;)
Any chance you could elaborate on the above quote please....
Cheers [smiley=beer.gif]
Realtime TV? Not at the cheating video feeds, that's for sure... ::)
hahahaha! :lol:
Question: Which Of The Following Options Describe You Best?
Option 1: I Play @ A Bricks & Mortar Casino
votes: 18
Option 2: I Play @ A Online Casino
votes: 9
Option 3: I'm Testing @ The Moment & Don't Play At All
votes: 7
Option 4: I'm Testing @ The Moment & Playing Online
votes: 10
Option 5: I Cannot Find A Way To Win & Have Had Enough
votes: 1
Option 6: Bloody Hell Xman What A Stupid Poll
votes: 1
Option 7: I Play @ Both Online & B&M Casinos
votes: 9
Title: How Many Of You Are Actually Playing????
Post by: xman1970 on October 13, 2008, 08:10:40 PM
Post by: xman1970 on October 13, 2008, 08:10:40 PM
Hi Guys,
Just wondered who does what at this moment in time, with the Credit Crunch expanding worldwide :o
Many thanks to anybody who takes the time to vote......... 8)
Just wondered who does what at this moment in time, with the Credit Crunch expanding worldwide :o
Many thanks to anybody who takes the time to vote......... 8)
Title: Re: How Many Of You Are Actually Playing????
Post by: TwoCatSam on October 13, 2008, 08:23:34 PM
Post by: TwoCatSam on October 13, 2008, 08:23:34 PM
xman
I am, but with either .50 or .25 per number. I'm not what you would call a "high roller".
Sam
I am, but with either .50 or .25 per number. I'm not what you would call a "high roller".
Sam
Title: Re: How Many Of You Are Actually Playing????
Post by: xman1970 on October 13, 2008, 08:32:10 PM
Post by: xman1970 on October 13, 2008, 08:32:10 PM
Hey Sammy ;)
I was going to put a Low / High roller option in the poll, but that would of been too many options :-[
I was going to put a Low / High roller option in the poll, but that would of been too many options :-[
Title: Re: How Many Of You Are Actually Playing????
Post by: MattyMattz on October 13, 2008, 08:56:00 PM
Post by: MattyMattz on October 13, 2008, 08:56:00 PM
Hey Ste,
another option you coulda had - Play online and in BM casino...
cheers,
Matt
another option you coulda had - Play online and in BM casino...
cheers,
Matt
Title: Re: How Many Of You Are Actually Playing????
Post by: xman1970 on October 13, 2008, 08:57:41 PM
Post by: xman1970 on October 13, 2008, 08:57:41 PM
Quote from: mattymattz on October 13, 2008, 08:56:00 PM
Hey Ste,
another option you coulda had - Play online and in BM casino...
cheers,
Matt
Consider it done Matty.....
BTW, congrats on that 1st pre-season win ;D
Go to get them while I can dude.....[smiley=thumbsup.gif]
Title: Re: How Many Of You Are Actually Playing????
Post by: hoper35 on October 13, 2008, 10:11:48 PM
Post by: hoper35 on October 13, 2008, 10:11:48 PM
I'm doing brick & mortar only. That's where I'm in profit. Even though it takes 1 to 2 hours to get there.
Ron.
Ron.
Title: Re: How Many Of You Are Actually Playing????
Post by: xman1970 on October 13, 2008, 10:18:04 PM
Post by: xman1970 on October 13, 2008, 10:18:04 PM
Hi Ron ;)
Could ask why you don't play online?????
Cheers.....[smiley=beer.gif]
Could ask why you don't play online?????
Cheers.....[smiley=beer.gif]
Title: Re: How Many Of You Are Actually Playing????
Post by: hoper35 on October 13, 2008, 10:45:21 PM
Post by: hoper35 on October 13, 2008, 10:45:21 PM
I do not trust on-line. I definitely do not trust RNG. Live-dealer might be okay, but I prefer the physical wheel. It helps that I profit most sessions at real casinos.
Ron.
Ron.
Title: Re: How Many Of You Are Actually Playing????
Post by: xman1970 on October 13, 2008, 10:53:10 PM
Post by: xman1970 on October 13, 2008, 10:53:10 PM
Thanks Ron, ;)
I agree with you on with the RNG comment [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
Think the Microgaming Live wheel is fair n true...... 8)
Keep winning......
I agree with you on with the RNG comment [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
Think the Microgaming Live wheel is fair n true...... 8)
Keep winning......
Title: Re: How Many Of You Are Actually Playing????
Post by: TwoCatSam on October 13, 2008, 11:04:07 PM
Post by: TwoCatSam on October 13, 2008, 11:04:07 PM
It better be, xman! I'm sinking a quarter a spin in that sucker!
Title: Re: How Many Of You Are Actually Playing????
Post by: xman1970 on October 13, 2008, 11:09:14 PM
Post by: xman1970 on October 13, 2008, 11:09:14 PM
Quote from: TwoCatSam on October 13, 2008, 11:04:07 PM
It better be, xman! I'm sinking a quarter a spin in that sucker!
You really are a high roller Sammy...... :o
Enjoy the Champagne & Caviar...... :o
And don't forget to get the hired help to peel you a grape....... ;)
Title: Re: How Many Of You Are Actually Playing????
Post by: VLSroulette on October 13, 2008, 11:23:19 PM
Post by: VLSroulette on October 13, 2008, 11:23:19 PM
Went to the casino today; only Brick & Mortar right now for me.
Too many video skips online ;D (not to mention the wife mad at me being so focused in my game at home I'm "not there" for anyone... ::)).
At least at brick and mortar a skip in the spin would be a deja vu and I know it isn't pulled against me by some computer software [smiley=lolk.gif]
Too many video skips online ;D (not to mention the wife mad at me being so focused in my game at home I'm "not there" for anyone... ::)).
At least at brick and mortar a skip in the spin would be a deja vu and I know it isn't pulled against me by some computer software [smiley=lolk.gif]
Title: Re: How Many Of You Are Actually Playing????
Post by: xman1970 on October 13, 2008, 11:32:04 PM
Post by: xman1970 on October 13, 2008, 11:32:04 PM
Just out of interest Victor, which casino was that please..... :-\
Thanking you in advance....... 8)
Thanking you in advance....... 8)
Title: Re: How Many Of You Are Actually Playing????
Post by: Shorty on October 14, 2008, 12:45:10 AM
Post by: Shorty on October 14, 2008, 12:45:10 AM
I play at both. B&M probably once a fortnight and online every night. :)
Title: Re: How Many Of You Are Actually Playing????
Post by: VLSroulette on October 14, 2008, 10:17:11 AM
Post by: VLSroulette on October 14, 2008, 10:17:11 AM
Quote from: xman1970 on October 13, 2008, 11:32:04 PM
Just out of interest Victor, which casino was that please..... :-\
Thanking you in advance....... 8)
Hi mate, the online account was joyland casino (.com) it has been skipping pretty much lately, when it skips at the end of spin, ball magically appears landed at a number already, and it fast forwards a bit.
May be only my internet end being "jammed" by received data...
We may need to make a serious study with several accounts connected at once and online via MSN chat and see if everyone gets this suspicious skipping at the same time (saying it by msn). Perhaphs telling where the ball was and where it ends "magically" after skipping, also reporting on the fast-wordward thingy.
I know tampering with the number can't be done on a per-account basis as people would get different numbers, but still the video can be tampered such way and broadcast the least paying number overall for all players in selected spins. Sadly this way, only the dealer will know shall she get the number displayed different... Just conspiration theory here okay. I'm not ensuring anything, just have talked with a fellow lady from the forum who ensured me insider info of it operating in such a way.
Anyone else with a joyland account? Experienced something similar?
Regards.
Title: Re: How Many Of You Are Actually Playing????
Post by: MattyMattz on October 14, 2008, 10:29:51 AM
Post by: MattyMattz on October 14, 2008, 10:29:51 AM
I have a Joyland account and could probably help, but my connection is usually crappy (comparable to dial up) so when I play there, I usually get crappy feed.
MM
MM
Title: Re: How Many Of You Are Actually Playing????
Post by: xman1970 on October 14, 2008, 12:05:22 PM
Post by: xman1970 on October 14, 2008, 12:05:22 PM
Hi Victor / Matty,
For example Joyland & 32Vegas are from the same Company, I've tried to open the live wheel at BOTH of then at the same time & it won't let you....
Just some food for thought...... ???
For example Joyland & 32Vegas are from the same Company, I've tried to open the live wheel at BOTH of then at the same time & it won't let you....
Just some food for thought...... ???
Title: Re: How Many Of You Are Actually Playing????
Post by: hoper35 on October 14, 2008, 10:05:01 PM
Post by: hoper35 on October 14, 2008, 10:05:01 PM
Wild Jack's jumpy live wheel got me worried enough to lose trust. I'll stick to a real live wheel.
Title: Re: How Many Of You Are Actually Playing????
Post by: xman1970 on October 14, 2008, 10:12:12 PM
Post by: xman1970 on October 14, 2008, 10:12:12 PM
I've had no problems with the Microgaming Wheel (Played @ Canbet) Hoper
What with that & 2Cats saying they don't give enough time to bet there Wild Jack isn't getting ANY good press at this forum :o
What with that & 2Cats saying they don't give enough time to bet there Wild Jack isn't getting ANY good press at this forum :o
Title: Re: How Many Of You Are Actually Playing????
Post by: TwoCatSam on October 15, 2008, 12:08:17 AM
Post by: TwoCatSam on October 15, 2008, 12:08:17 AM
That Microgaming wheel is also at Riverbelle......one of the oldest casinos out there......and Bella Vegas.
I'm playing Bella now and it seems great. None of the WJ problems, but we'll see. I had no probs at WJ until I started winning.
Sam
I'm playing Bella now and it seems great. None of the WJ problems, but we'll see. I had no probs at WJ until I started winning.
Sam
Title: Re: How Many Of You Are Actually Playing????
Post by: JHM on October 15, 2008, 06:37:06 PM
Post by: JHM on October 15, 2008, 06:37:06 PM
Testing online. Start playing when I have find a way of play that suits me.
Title: Re: How Many Of You Are Actually Playing????
Post by: xman1970 on October 19, 2008, 02:58:35 AM
Post by: xman1970 on October 19, 2008, 02:58:35 AM
Quote from: VLSroulette on October 14, 2008, 10:17:11 AM
I know tampering with the number can't be done on a per-account basis as people would get different numbers, but still the video can be tampered such way and broadcast the least paying number overall for all players in selected spins. Sadly this way, only the dealer will know shall she get the number displayed different... Just conspiration theory here okay. I'm not ensuring anything, just have talked with a fellow lady from the forum who ensured me insider info of it operating in such a way.
Hey Victor ;)
Any chance you could elaborate on the above quote please....
Cheers [smiley=beer.gif]
Title: Re: How Many Of You Are Actually Playing????
Post by: VLSroulette on October 19, 2008, 09:27:38 AM
Post by: VLSroulette on October 19, 2008, 09:27:38 AM
Sure, at the chat an "informant" from the forum said he talked to an online casino staff person close to him and he informed the live wheel tampering goes that way, the software injects video on the feed to place the ball in whatever number it is needed, only at certain spins, so the "skip" -not due to technical issues- is produced (and I guess the fast-forwarding comes with it too).
Herb & Lanky were on this particular chat too! They can confirm, but please just don't release the person's name as this time we should discuss the message and not the messenger...
Remember, conspiration theories here only. but... it is actually very easy to discover this, granted, if 1 single person gets video data "jammed" on his computer due to failure of his particular connection this skipping can be produced... but if EVERY person (broadband users) always get the same skipping (and the same fast-forwarding) at the same time, then that is injected at the video feed source and isn't to be blamed on every broadband user's connection presenting failure at the same time (i.e. Me in venezuela, Lanky in australia and Sam in USA we all get the same video skipping and the same fast-forwarding at the same time... hum... not likely 3 internet providers across the globe failed at the same time, eveytime it happens... that looks more like video-injection straight from the video source, see?).
Okay, serious study needed, measuring data stream speed & flow and the whole technical part.
If we are getting the same continual data stream and it skips, then video is sent "skipped" from the source.
We need serious forensic study of such video feeds/streams, 100% independent and without announcing it at any public sources so casinos wouldn't know. If they are 100% fair, they shouldn't fear such independent studies anyway... or are they going to call any rule saying people can't analyze data after reaching our computers? [smiley=lolk.gif] ::)
Herb & Lanky were on this particular chat too! They can confirm, but please just don't release the person's name as this time we should discuss the message and not the messenger...
Remember, conspiration theories here only. but... it is actually very easy to discover this, granted, if 1 single person gets video data "jammed" on his computer due to failure of his particular connection this skipping can be produced... but if EVERY person (broadband users) always get the same skipping (and the same fast-forwarding) at the same time, then that is injected at the video feed source and isn't to be blamed on every broadband user's connection presenting failure at the same time (i.e. Me in venezuela, Lanky in australia and Sam in USA we all get the same video skipping and the same fast-forwarding at the same time... hum... not likely 3 internet providers across the globe failed at the same time, eveytime it happens... that looks more like video-injection straight from the video source, see?).
Okay, serious study needed, measuring data stream speed & flow and the whole technical part.
If we are getting the same continual data stream and it skips, then video is sent "skipped" from the source.
We need serious forensic study of such video feeds/streams, 100% independent and without announcing it at any public sources so casinos wouldn't know. If they are 100% fair, they shouldn't fear such independent studies anyway... or are they going to call any rule saying people can't analyze data after reaching our computers? [smiley=lolk.gif] ::)
Title: Re: How Many Of You Are Actually Playing????
Post by: TwoCatSam on October 19, 2008, 09:43:14 AM
Post by: TwoCatSam on October 19, 2008, 09:43:14 AM
Victor
One thing that has always bothered me about the online casinos: The girls are always exact copies of themselves from day to day. Never jewelery. Always the same uniform. Hair is always exactly the same. I know; I've done comparisons. May I suggest that when these "skips" occur, one should look closely at the dealer before and after. Surely long hair must flow over the wrong shoulder sooner or later!
I think Matty said it once. What they need is a constant TV feed of CNN or Fox News in the background to show the real-timeness of it all!
Think that will happen?
Sam
One thing that has always bothered me about the online casinos: The girls are always exact copies of themselves from day to day. Never jewelery. Always the same uniform. Hair is always exactly the same. I know; I've done comparisons. May I suggest that when these "skips" occur, one should look closely at the dealer before and after. Surely long hair must flow over the wrong shoulder sooner or later!
I think Matty said it once. What they need is a constant TV feed of CNN or Fox News in the background to show the real-timeness of it all!
Think that will happen?
Sam
Title: Re: How Many Of You Are Actually Playing????
Post by: VLSroulette on October 21, 2008, 08:29:35 AM
Post by: VLSroulette on October 21, 2008, 08:29:35 AM
QuoteThink that will happen?
Realtime TV? Not at the cheating video feeds, that's for sure... ::)
Title: Re: How Many Of You Are Actually Playing????
Post by: xman1970 on October 21, 2008, 08:40:22 AM
Post by: xman1970 on October 21, 2008, 08:40:22 AM
hey Victor, ;)
Any thoughts on getting the ball rolling with this???
there must be some way between us all we can work it out....
A live feed expert would help.... :-[
Any thoughts on getting the ball rolling with this???
there must be some way between us all we can work it out....
A live feed expert would help.... :-[
Title: Re: How Many Of You Are Actually Playing????
Post by: TwoCatSam on October 21, 2008, 09:29:38 AM
Post by: TwoCatSam on October 21, 2008, 09:29:38 AM
Yes, Victor, get on that!
Title: Re: How Many Of You Are Actually Playing????
Post by: VLSroulette on October 22, 2008, 12:27:41 AM
Post by: VLSroulette on October 22, 2008, 12:27:41 AM
Okay, it is actually easy. First stage: we gather data at the same time, see if every feed skips at the same time. That's it.
We should go private at the forum's chat and when it skips for each participant just say "DID IT" or "VIDEO SKIP" or the like.
According to the results of that simple multiplayer test, we can start digging more, recording video packets with a packet sniffer, incurring into forensic analysis of the data, (i.e. ensuring everyone got the same bytes transfered for the same live video feed at the same time), etc.
If they aren't cheating they won't care about such type of independent study... and they ensure they never cheat, don't they?
Of course, if they never skip and offer a 100% skip-less fair game from now on, then they read the forum :)
Who's in for the very basic preliminary test?
We should go private at the forum's chat and when it skips for each participant just say "DID IT" or "VIDEO SKIP" or the like.
According to the results of that simple multiplayer test, we can start digging more, recording video packets with a packet sniffer, incurring into forensic analysis of the data, (i.e. ensuring everyone got the same bytes transfered for the same live video feed at the same time), etc.
If they aren't cheating they won't care about such type of independent study... and they ensure they never cheat, don't they?
Of course, if they never skip and offer a 100% skip-less fair game from now on, then they read the forum :)
Who's in for the very basic preliminary test?
Title: Re: How Many Of You Are Actually Playing????
Post by: xman1970 on October 22, 2008, 12:30:26 AM
Post by: xman1970 on October 22, 2008, 12:30:26 AM
I'm happy to do what I can Victor..... ;)
Pls just let me know.....
BTW, would you want one of us checking from a different "playtech" wheel....
EG you at bet365
Me at joyland for example....
Pls just let me know.....
BTW, would you want one of us checking from a different "playtech" wheel....
EG you at bet365
Me at joyland for example....
Title: Re: How Many Of You Are Actually Playing????
Post by: hamsup_sotong on October 22, 2008, 01:16:36 AM
Post by: hamsup_sotong on October 22, 2008, 01:16:36 AM
mmm i can do the dublin bet one ... short and i have seen skips or times when the feed is blanked out
cheers
hams
cheers
hams
Title: Re: How Many Of You Are Actually Playing????
Post by: pins on October 27, 2008, 08:11:51 AM
Post by: pins on October 27, 2008, 08:11:51 AM
my last visit to the casino. lost the first forty bets and came home winning. that is why i like to play roulette. betting single numbers you do not have to hit many to finish in front
Title: Re: How Many Of You Are Actually Playing????
Post by: stavros on September 22, 2009, 07:39:41 PM
Post by: stavros on September 22, 2009, 07:39:41 PM
I play in live casino, 4-5 days per week. I take three weeks vacation off every year and have been playing for the past 2+ years. hey hey
Title: Re: How Many Of You Are Actually Playing????
Post by: Mr J on September 22, 2009, 08:40:06 PM
Post by: Mr J on September 22, 2009, 08:40:06 PM
How did I miss this question? lol I go (B&M) around 2-3 days per week. Soon, I want to increase that to 5-6 days per week. I have something VERY important going on now (personal) but when thats done with, I plan on going more. Ken
Title: Re: How Many Of You Are Actually Playing????
Post by: Davey-Jones on September 23, 2009, 12:40:27 AM
Post by: Davey-Jones on September 23, 2009, 12:40:27 AM
Quote from: Mr J on September 22, 2009, 08:40:06 PM
How did I miss this question?
hahahaha! :lol:
Title: Re: How Many Of You Are Actually Playing????
Post by: Carlitos on September 23, 2009, 01:17:41 AM
Post by: Carlitos on September 23, 2009, 01:17:41 AM
.... i do play 2 to 4 times a month in an Real Land based casino.
Carlitos 8)
Carlitos 8)
Title: Re: How Many Of You Are Actually Playing????
Post by: TwoCatSam on September 24, 2009, 03:56:08 PM
Post by: TwoCatSam on September 24, 2009, 03:56:08 PM
I play daily. My bankroll is currently twelve cents. I made two cents today. That is a 16.6% increase. I only bet 4 cents, so my ROI was 50%.
I'm feeling faint!
Later........
Sam
I'm feeling faint!
Later........
Sam