Hi there.
This is Thomas again.
With another series on a bot.
Roulette Bot Pro V2.
So let me make this crystal clear to all concerned.
I am a affiliate of Roulette Bot Pro.
I am also a beta tester for
Roulette Bot Pro and Roulette Bot Pro V2.
Tested both versions.
What follows is not indented to be a sales pitch.
No links will be posted by me.
No affiliate links of mine will ever grace this post.
The next section may be considered by some to be a sales pitch.
So I will only say this once...
If you wish to find out more about Roulette Bot Pro.
Or Roulette Bot Pro V2.
Click on my name.
And find out about the bot on my website.
I have a affiliate link on my website for Roulette Bot Pro.
So you are pre warned.
It is your choice to purchase it from there or not.
That is, if you are interested in using this amazing software.
That is the only time I will mention it.
Now that I have cleared the air.
And made my peace.
I can now get on with my review of Roulette Bot Pro V2.
Again, I will follow a similar format to the other post on Super Roulette.
Playing with REAL Money.
In REAL time.
Screen shots made with SnagIt.
And videos done with Camtasia.
Please keep all posts to the topic at hand.
If you have questions. You can post them here.
If you wish to have a demo of the bot.
I can give you one with skype.
My skype username is
thomasgrant
You can ask Matt of Roulette Bot Pro fame any questions.
Or ask me. I will endeavour to answer them.
And we may even get the programmer Tiago to put in a word or two.
Also there may be posts from people that have actually purchased the software.
And have used it. Or they may have tried the trial version.
So be warned, there may be testimonials in here.
Ok, now all that is said and done.
I can get on with it.
For those that are interested in what has been said about Roulette Bot Pro.
You can visit these two forum links.
nolinks://vlsroulette.com/other-software-for-roulette/roulette-bot-pro-review (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/other-software-for-roulette/roulette-bot-pro-review)
nolinks://vlsroulette.com/other-software-for-roulette/roulettebot-pro (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/other-software-for-roulette/roulettebot-pro)
Announcing the imminent release of
Roulette Bot Pro V2 (Nearly ready for release)
This has got to be. One of the best bots I have ever used.
It is so easy to use. So easy to set up.
And it is fast...
You can have it up and running and making you money in less than 5 minutes.
Depending on your settings of course.
At the moment.
It is only playing on playtech casinos.
Once all the features have been tested out.
There may be a few more casinos added.
Roulette Bot Pro and Roulette Bot Pro V2
Are similar to that other early program for Roulette.
Roulette Sniper.
The only difference is that
Roulette Bot Pro and Roulette Bot Pro V2
do it all automatically for you.
That is, it places the bets for you.
Many new features in Roulette Bot Pro V2.
A separate graph.
Number history.
And a new system. Reverse Sleepers.
You can see that I have only $5.57c in this account. Of real money.
Now what you may not know. Is this.
It started out as $0.53c
I had made a previous withdraw with this casino.
After making a profit with Roulette Bot Pro.
I wanted to get my money out.
There was a few cents left.
Been beta testing Roulette Bot Pro V2 on this account ever since.
Just with $0.10c chip bets.
A few wins here.
A few wins there.
And now it is up to $5.57c
Amazing.
Here, I just made 10 units in 165 spins.
And I show what settings I am using.
These are not recommended.
But I am using em.
Just for testing purposes.
And they seem to bring in the bacon a fair bit.
They are very dangerous settings.
And not at all recommend by Matt.
These are just some of the features of Roulette Bot Pro V2.
More features to come.
What enables us to win money using these bots?
Is it the system the bots play? If so, what are the basics of the system?
Quote from: Herb on April 18, 2009, 05:21:45 PM
What enables us to win money using these bots?
Is it the system the bots play? If so, what are the basics of the system?
Umm, not sure what you mean there.
Both bots that I have tried have different systems.
As for explaining how each system works.
Well you will have to got the websites to read about how they work.
Quote from: Herb on April 18, 2009, 05:21:45 PM
What enables us to win money using these bots?
Is it the system the bots play? If so, what are the basics of the system?
This one is wait for 10 reds, then bet on black with classic martingale...wait for first dozen not to show for 15 spins, then bet it with progression. ???
Quote from: Number Six on April 18, 2009, 05:39:04 PM
This one is wait for 10 reds, then bet on black with classic martingale...wait for first dozen not to show for 15 spins, then bet it with progression. ???
Wow, a concise answer from a my hardest critic. Thanks Six.
In other words, both bots are built on a "roulette system".
This means that both bots are absolutely worthless, unless your goal is to lose your entire bankroll in the fastest, most efficient way possible.
-Herb
Quote from: Herb
In other words, both bots are built on a "roulette system".
This means that both bots are absolutely worthless, unless your goal is to lose your entire bankroll in the fastest, most efficient way possible.
-Herb
Herb,
I can't speak for Roulette Pro but to lump Super Roulette into a category of worthless tools simply shows ignorance.
Yes it uses systems (plural) which are highly configurable dependent on the player's risk level among other factors.
It does not rely on 'wait for x number of misses and then bet' as it's only betting mechanism, in fact most players do not use this strategy at all.
Regards
Matt
Matt,
The computer can't take a system that doesn't win and make you a winner because it understands your risk levels.
Think of it this way: A losing system x players risk level = a losing system.
Understand? :)
-Herb
Quote from: Herb
Matt,
The computer can't take a system that doesn't win and make you a winner because it understands your risk levels.
Think of it this way: A losing system x players risk level = a losing system.
Understand? :)
-Herb
Herb,
Yes totally agree with that.
However Super Roulette is designed to work with the no-zero wheel. Combine that with it's automation and the logical systems integrated into it and it wins alot more than it loses.
Tom has almost tripled his starting balance- which are typical, repeatable results.
Regards
Matt
In the long run, you will still lose or break even at best. You're just experiencing a normal random fluctuation.
Quote from: Herb
In the long run, you will still lose or break even at best. You're just experiencing a normal random fluctuation.
Herb, what is 'the long run' ? If Tom withdrawals now he is well in front, is that not a win?
It is the
normal, random fluctuation of the game that ensures each session is a success.
This certainty that means the bankroll will grow streadily; in essence, the longer you play, the more you will win.
Matt
QuoteHerb, what is 'the long run' ? If Tom withdrawals now he is well in front, is that not a win?
It is the normal, random fluctuation of the game that ensures each session is a success. It is this certainty that ensures the bankroll will grow streadily, in essence, the longer you play, the more you will win.
That's like asking how many grains of sand make up a heap.
Every play is part of the long run.
It's not the normal random fluctuation of the game that enables you to win in the long run, it's having the edge. If you don't have the edge, and haven't changed the odds to be in your favor, then you can't win in the long run. Hitting and running, as they say, doesn't enable you to win in the long term. You must gain the edge. By the way, this is a fact that is not even debatable, since it's easily demonstrated mathematically.
What is your current edge over the casino?
-Herb
Quote from: super-roulette on April 18, 2009, 07:32:54 PMHerb, what is 'the long run' ? If Tom withdrawals now he is well in front, is that not a win?
Only if he never plays again! ;)
Quote from: Herb
It's not the normal random fluctuation of the game that enables you to win in the long run, it's having the edge. If you don't have the edge, and haven't changed the odds to be in your favor, then you can't win in the long run. Hitting and running, as they say, doesn't enable you to win in the long term.
-Herb
Thanks Herb, I welcome the discussion.
Well the edge IS achieved by the r
andom fluctuation of the game, remembering this is a no-zero table...quite simply the more you play, the more you will win.
As the spin sample increases, the edge doesn't increase however it's affect on your balance does.
Regards
Matt
Quote from: Lohnro on April 18, 2009, 07:49:23 PM
Only if he never plays again! ;)
Yes good point Lonhro, if this relied on the 'hit and run' method.
However as I mentioned the results are expected and repeatable and do not require the 'quit while you are ahead' mentality.
Regards
Matt
QuoteHowever as I mentioned the results are expected and repeatable and do not require the 'quit while you are ahead' mentality.
Then what enables you to win?
If you don't have the edge, then you're just experiencing a normal random fluctuation. According to probability, the more you play, the more you will approach break even. You may be experiencing a brief winning period now, but in time, you will move closer and closer to break even. Regardless of when you quit each "session".
-Herb
Quote from: Herb
Then what enables you to win?
-Herb
(zero house edge + expected fluctuation of results + logical betting patterns) = edge over casino = win
Matt
No, it doesn't.
Without the edge, you don't win.
Quote from: super-roulette
expected fluctuation of results
What if the outcomes don't fluctuate as expected? Er...you lose
Your philosophy of roulette is terribly flawed
Quote from: Number Six
What if the outcomes don't fluctuate as expected? Er...you lose
Your philosophy of roulette is terribly flawed
N6, over a large sample of spins they will, so each session will be successful.
My philosophy may be flawed in your eyes N6, I have never claimed to be an expert on the subject. However I am winning consistently with my so called
flawed philosophy, so maybe it isn't as flawed as you maintain.
Matt
Quote from: Herb on April 18, 2009, 08:14:04 PM
No, it doesn't.
Without the edge, you don't win.
Herb, that is just the point an edge is created, so you do win.
I don't want to hijack this thread anymore guys, this is actually Tom's thread for Roulette Bot Pro - which I have no knowledge of.
Thanks for the debate.
Regards
Matt
I'm sorry, but I don't see any benefit to the bots. They just seem to be an efficient way to lose. They don't change the house edge, so currently, it would appear that you are just gambling with them.
Best of Luck.
-Herb
Quote from: Herb on April 18, 2009, 08:56:03 PM
I'm sorry, but I don't see any benefit to the bots. They just seem to be an efficient way to lose. They don't change the house edge, so currently, it would appear that you are just gambling with them.
Best of Luck.
-Herb
You don't see the benefits of the bots?
Ok, let me ask you then.
You are in the forum.
So that must mean that you have some interest in Roulette.
You possibly play the game on occasion.
I assume that you play only on LIVE tables.
Many here claim that it is the only way to win.
Playing on a live table, do you use any system?
Or just use luck?
There are many systems out there.
Some better than others.
If a bot was made to work on a LIVE roulette table.
And use the system or systems that you or anyone else is using with some success.
Then the question would be.
Would you use it?
QuoteYou don't see the benefits of the bots?
Nope. They don't change the house edge one bit.
If you disagree, then please explain how it change the house edge.
Quote from: Herb on April 19, 2009, 12:46:44 AM
Nope. They don't change the house edge one bit.
If you disagree, then please explain how it change the house edge.
Umm, I may be a little confused here.
But what does the house edge have to do with bots?
All a bot is designed to do is to play for you.
So you can go do the things that you want to do.
Win or lose does not matter.
Win would be better.
The bots that Tiago has made.
Have options for stop loss.
And trailing stop loss.
So that means that if you are on a loosing side of things.
You wont lose as much.
Hi there.
Here is a screen shot of RBPV2 in action.
Now as I stated earlier.
All I had in this account was $0.53c
would be great if this bot would work for betfair no zero roulette ,its nearly the same buttons and everythin as playtech
The main problem ( for me ) of the v1 Roulette Bot Pro was that it wasn't possible to lock the PC ( [WindowsKey]+[L] )
If I press them, or change user ... it will stop working until I'll return to the desktop.
Example: MMM / RBS / DCS haven't this problem, I can lock the computer, change user ... everything but they will continue working in backround.
I really hope to see this feature on the next V2 :thumbsup: