no memory ball-randomness-betting

[ikarianman]

hello everyone!i want to state some thoughts here as i believe that something evolving,by ideas of lot people,though i will not say something you dont know but i say it with my point of view:)
first i want to say  and ask at the same time about the memory of the ball:
If the ball had memory then all the systems based on the previous spins would work.is that correct?furthermore i believe that the idea of hot numbers and sleeping numbers is just an illusion we have by the small periods of time we see the numbers coming.on the long run and not very long run we all know that all numbers will appear about the same times.and if today i won because of sleeping numbers tomorrow i may lose because of them!simply because you dont know!anyway we know the fact that in the long run for example at 1000000 spins,aproximatly all numbers will appear 27000(1/37 of 1000000) spins including the damn zero!that was about memory of ball and considering there is no memory and anything can happen anytime,
i will continue with some kind of example about roulette payoffs...
for me its the trap of roulette..so
1)you bet 1 unit on even bet(for example red),what can happen?
3 things:a)you win 1 unit,b)black came you lose,c)0 came you lose 1 unit!

2)you bet 2units (leyts say 2 columns) again
a)you win 1 unit b)you lose of other column coming c)you lose by 0!but now 2 units!

3 you bet 5 lines..
a)you win 1 unit b)normal lose c)zero came!you lose 5 units!
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etc.
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etc.

whatever bet we do we have one chanse to win,and 2 chances to lose!but with even chance bet we can lose less than other bets i believe(lose 1 unit)

finally,lets say we bet 36 numbers..what happens then?2 things..
either we we dont win at all,or we lose 36 units:)roulette is not unbeatble,roulette is unfair

last i would like to say that if there is a trap bet as this charles guy says,mayby it has to do with outside bets and zero,,,
thanks for reading

[kompressor]

i've started a topic on "how to finance bet on zero"...no-one seems interested....

nolinks://vlsroulette.com/brainstorming/strategy-of-bet-financing-101/msg35119/#msg35119


""I also think we maybe put to much info on this thread?"" 

[ikarianman]

good idea to do it on double zero roulette,i try it out

[VLSroulette]

Ikarianman, this no-memory thread looks perfect for Roulette & Gambling framework debate, I'll move it there.

Oh! And by the way, ATILA said you don't need to know what comes for next spin, as long as they come as expected or near expected rate. (nothing to do against the eventual prolonged dispersion, but not every session has an above-the-norm dispersion either).

Something curious about roulette is you can't avoid hitting, sooner or later that is. How would you manage your bets for still having bank when the hitting wave comes is what counts. In gambling bankroll is life itself.

TIP: Bet more when winning and bet less when losing, so your wins nets you more and losing doesn't wipe you straight, see time as your friend until there's "your moment", which means that cycle in which you will hit above expected (because the casino also has cycles), a la Manrique's style!

Kind regards Ikarianman, and please go on elaborating on your interesting topic.

[ikarianman]

sure i understand that cycles come and go,mayby this is the only way to do it,to feel the timing..

[kompressor]

comparing all the even chance i prefer hi/low cause you can cheat table limit by playing inside/outside with a progression...start with 1 chip on the 3 double street till all possible HI bet combinaison reach the table limit....should be like 100x the starting bet

[ikarianman]

kobressor,i am afraid i didnt understand.can you post an example off what you mean?

[kompressor]

lowest bet on HI

1 chips on line 19-22, 1 chip on line 25-28, 1 chip on line 31-34,

so 3 chips (inside bet) covering HI

instead of a minimum outside bet on HI of 10,25 or 50$

highest bet on hi

once you reach table limit of outside bet HI you start spreading number 19 to 36 with maximum inside bet value chips on straight,split,street,double street


but progression is an illusion....win 500$ a day but loose 100 000$ in one night

[VLSroulette]

kobressor,i am afraid i didnt understand.can you post an example off what you mean?

Hello Ikarianman,

Try this thread:
nolinks://vlsroulette.com/live-roulette-casinos/faking-minimum-and-maximum-bets-plus-spread/

It illustrates how to use table limits to one's advantage, just like Kompressor mentions.

Kind regards.
Victor

[ikarianman]

got it:)thanks

[Marven]

roulette is not unbeatble,roulette is unfair

I love what you said mate.
I'm gonna put it in my signature.

Cheers,
Marven

[ikarianman]

hehehe:)i think that is the cold true marven!
greetings!

[StevieG]

I love what you said mate.
I'm gonna put it in my signature.

Cheers,
Marven

Sorry to be pedantic but isin't it a double negative. Shouldn't the line be:

Roulette is beatable, but it's also unfair.

"Roulette in not unbeatable..." = Double negative. I hate my grammar obsession days, sorry guys 

[ikarianman]

@stevieG
where did you find that old post hehehe? i am not sure anout the syntax because my english is not mother language but,the meaning is that nothing is really unbeatable except if it is an unfair race.
do you remember that funny story from school?small david won goliath the giant  with a stone and not with a fair way if you remember.because he couldnt beat him but only with one way:to cheat.
now,,i dont tell to cheat in roullete ..even if you want to, how could someone do it?

friendly advise:read the above post in this thread  of VLS,i think is everything someone should understand about this game
regards:)

[ikarianman]

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