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Title: Homebooking - Plein - System
Post by: winkel on July 02, 2008, 01:41:37 PM
I´m analysing several thousand spins a day.

This is what I found remarkable. It´s not tested at all, because I haven´t enough time to do that.
I just looked through 6 months and three raws.

1) We note every day the same coup e.g. the 13th of the table
2) We will need 13 days so we have 13 spins registered
3) on the 14th day we watch the table from the first ball beginning

Start of the game:
We start betting, when the first number of our register is hit. We bet all 13 Numbers of the 13 former days. (so there might be repetitions so we have to bet less then 13 numbers)

length of the game: maximal 20 Coups

End of game:
- Double hit at the start
- if we start with losses we stop when back to plus

example:
1.- 13.6.2008 Wiesbaden T3 (June, 1 to 13 every 13th spin):

12
31
30
21
1
29
28
6
1
4
4
4
15

numbers to bet: 1 4 6 12 15 21 28 29 30 31 = 10 Zahlen

Permanenz vom 14.06.08 T3
10
25
36
16
6 start

Satzcoup - Perm - GuV(Win and Loss)
1 - 22 -10
2 - 22 -10
3 - 12 +26 End of game at +6
4 - 35
5 - 1 Treffer(hit)
6 - 18
7 - 0
8 - 18
9 - 21 Treffer
10 - 28 Treffer
11 - 19
12 - 26
13 - 17
14 - 20
15 - 10
16 - 4 Treffer
17 - 31 Treffer
18 - 19
19 - 24
20 - 12 Treffer
21 - 34
22 - 24
23 - 17
24 - 25
25 - 17
26 - 18

I show a longer Period of the spins to show how efficant this selection is.


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winkel
Title: Re: Homebooking - Plein - System
Post by: winkel on July 05, 2008, 12:11:23 PM
seems to be ......

but here some results:

Tage   Zahlen   Treffer   Fehltr   Saldo
1.-13   12   1   1   12
2.-14   11   3   10   -25
3.-15   11   1   0   25
4.-16   10   1   0   26
5.-17   9   1   0   27
6.-18   9   1   0   27
7.-19   9   1   1   18
8.-20   9   1   1   18
9.-21   10   2   5   2
10.-22   11   2   3   17
11.-23   11   2   4   6
12.-24   11   1   0   25
13.-25   11   1   0   25
14.-26   11   2   3   6
15.-27   10   1   1   16
16.-28   9   4   9   27
17.-29   9   2   11   -45
18.-30   10   1   0   26
            
Ergeb.Jan.            206
Title: Re: Homebooking - Plein - System
Post by: kawa4711 on July 05, 2008, 01:50:16 PM
Hi, Winkel, it`san interesting idea.
Do you think this works on the last 13 numbers (could be e.g. the 13 numbers,which  I see, when I come to a casino or the last 13 numbers shown in an Onlin Casino) ?

Best regards

kawa4711
Title: Re: Homebooking - Plein - System
Post by: winkel on July 05, 2008, 02:25:11 PM
Hi Kawa,

the idea is a kind of time-string and on the other hand a kind of a three-dimensional-thinking of random strings as u know them from my other system.

it doesn´t work on the last 13 numbers.

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winkel
Title: Re: Homebooking - Plein - System
Post by: RCEC on July 07, 2008, 06:07:51 PM
Hi Winkel!

Thx for giving me the adress of this Page!

With your RNF i´ve got an Idea how to play the R´s

You know I prefer the F´s ,but when you look at the Binomal-distribution ,every Rotation there will be a Repeat and Equal probability of N´s

CU
RCEC

Title: Re: Homebooking - Plein - System
Post by: VLSroulette on July 07, 2008, 07:14:26 PM
Hey RCEC, welcome around. Feel at home.

:)
Title: Re: Homebooking - Plein - System
Post by: winkel on July 20, 2008, 06:53:52 PM
Ergebnis: -150
Gesamt: +160
when I read all these posts people are complaining about their losses, I don#t understand why this is so unnoticed.

Here the results
played 7 days at Wiesbaden Table 3
each day 38 games started:

1294 bets
14327 units turn around
result +160 is +1,117%

averages:
4,865 times to bet
needed 53,328 units
about 10,962 units per bet

it is flat bet no progression used

at 66,7% the game ended after 3 bets with a win
at 33,2% the game needed between 4 and 13 bets, ending with win or loss.

so now take notice of this and complain again about loosing i betting silly systems.

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winkel
Title: Re: Homebooking - Plein - System
Post by: winkel on August 06, 2008, 05:53:03 PM
All in all I have 5 Holy Grals in pocket.

This is one. So I presume you´re not really interested in finding the gral, are you?

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winkel
Title: Re: Homebooking - Plein - System
Post by: TwoCatSam on August 06, 2008, 06:31:17 PM
Winkel

Here's what threw me:

"1) We note every day the same coup e.g. the 13th of the table"

Does this mean you have to be there waiting for the table to open and chart until you learn the 13th spin?

Sam

Title: Re: Homebooking - Plein - System
Post by: winkel on August 06, 2008, 07:35:52 PM
Hi TCS,

you can play it on every daily coup starting with the 13th.

it´s just the example to learn the strategy. You can also play the 100th.

It´s best for casinos who give daily permanences e.g. Wiesbaden.
You print the last 13 days and play every coup starting with the 13th row on 14th day.

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winkel
Title: Re: Homebooking - Plein - System
Post by: TwoCatSam on August 06, 2008, 08:07:00 PM
winkel

How do I play at Caesar's in Las Vegas?

Sam
Title: Re: Homebooking - Plein - System
Post by: winkel on August 07, 2008, 07:50:19 AM
Hi Sam,

don´t play where they cheat you.

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winkel
Title: Re: Homebooking - Plein - System
Post by: TwoCatSam on August 07, 2008, 10:38:25 AM
Winkel

OK, let's put it this way.  I don't want to sit down with cold numbers that happened in Germany.  I want to play a real wheel.  How do you wait for the 13th spin of the day in ANY casino you chose to play at?

Sam
Title: Re: Homebooking - Plein - System
Post by: winkel on August 07, 2008, 01:42:51 PM
Hi Sam,

you mustn´t play with german numbers.

You have to use the numbers of the same table at the same casino.

When Table starts you note every number that appears e.g. 50spins a day.
or (thats possible in most OC or European Live-Casinos)you use the official permanences-sheets.

Then you start playing 13th row on 14th day. as soon as one numbers of your reference-row appears, you start betting.
if you have to bet 5 spins to get a plus, than you can then with 19th row.
if you hit in second spin (1 to start and win in first bet) you follow with 22nd row. etc.

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winkel
Title: Re: Homebooking - Plein - System
Post by: TwoCatSam on August 07, 2008, 04:38:57 PM
winkel

OK, I go to the casino you won't name, I wait for a table to open and I start recording spins.  I do this--what?--thirteen, fourteen days in a row and then I have an opportunity to bet?

Why can't I use German numbers.  Is the German 3 different than the French 3 or the American 3?

Do you actually do this system?  Do you actually go to a casino 14 days in a row and wait to see the 13th number?

Sam
Title: Re: Homebooking - Plein - System
Post by: winkel on August 07, 2008, 04:53:51 PM
Hi Sam,

in Germany it is quite simple. I print the numbers of the last 13 days an have my numbers for today.
Nearly every casino offers all numbers of all tables throughout the year. Most of them put them on the net as well e.g. Wiesbaden, Berlin, Dortmund, Duisburg, and others.

The strategy is a mix of time-string-theory and 3D-Thinking of perms.

If it is to complicated, don´t win with this.

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winkel

Title: Re: Homebooking - Plein - System
Post by: TwoCatSam on August 07, 2008, 04:55:52 PM
winkel

Thanks for that information.  Since I can't bet in Germany, your advice is sage.  I shall not win with this system.

I do understand, however.

Sam