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Title: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: Lanky on December 05, 2008, 03:58:02 AM
This about Ronjo's 3 Group System.
And the words below are from the Man Himself.
And I am going to Elevate it & share it with People that Have never seen it before & or those that wish to revisit it again.

There will be a post that Follows this One.

SINGLEPLAY:



Group (1) 1-10-11-12-13-14-15-16-17-18-19-31

Group (2) 2-20-21-22-23-24-25-26-27-28-29-32

Group (3) 3-4-5-6-7-8-9-30-33-34-35-36

-------------------------------------

Rules:

1) After the fourth losing bet we stop chasing the losing group and we do one of two things

which will be track another three spins and select a new group and carry on with the progression

or after the fourth losing bet we bet on the trending group (my favourite) and carry on with the progression.

2) If we are positive in profit we always reset to betting with one chip on a new game.

3) progression:Always stick to the progression, do not panic and add more chips.

which is 1-1-1-2 if we have lost these four bets take the last 3 losing bets and add them up

and divide by 2 will give us 1-1-1-2-2 and if that bet loses add up will give five so we make it

a round figure which is six and divide by two is 1-1-1-2-2-3 and you keep doing this.

Lanky for Ronjo.


Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: Lanky on December 05, 2008, 03:59:24 AM
Hi Forum.

I am going to give My mate Ronjo's 3 Group System a lift up here.
He is a Great Guy going through some difficult times at the Moment.
I am trying to give Him a lift here & show Him that He is Far from forgotten.
He is a true Champion in every sense of the word.
And is one of the straightest shooters you would ever want to meet.

Never the less He will be back bigger,stronger & better in the future.

I Have finally settled on a way that I play Ronjo's System.
It has been kind to Me over the past 2 years or so.
I have Won Money with it & it has Got me back out of the hell session with the Lw's at times.

Be warned this is only My way & it may vary a bit from the way that Ronjo does it.And He will correct Me as He reads this at a later date if needed.

In the past I have had various ways to play it.
But I decided to show how I would play it in a Mechanical way so to speak so that others could both learn from it as well as improve it.
And this is the reason why I settled on showing it to You done this way.

I always take the Zero or spit it with the 1 2 3 whichever is in that group.

So I will do the betting at the end so as not to confuse you with Me betting 13 numbers instead of 12.

My Friend Wiggy & I were in the Chat the other day & he showed Me these numbers & I offered him this same advice.

I did these commentaries as we were chatting as each bet came around.
So its not something I just made up.
It was done live in the chat with Wiggy.
Also these are not My numbers Wiggy supplied them to Me.
So I did NOT cook the numbers to get these results.

This session was relative easy as compared to some sessions.
Although it did not start out that way as we only won 2 bets from the first 8.

And at a Later date as time permits with Me having Health issues etc.
I will do the other numbers that are from these & there will be much harder sessions as we go along.





Numbers downloaded from
nolinks://vlsroulette.com/actuals-permanences/556-numbers-from-dublinbet-rng/ (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/actuals-permanences/556-numbers-from-dublinbet-rng/)
36 (G3)
34 (G3)
33 (G3)
22 (G2)
Ok I Agree here
G1 Due

2 (G2) L Bet 1 lose-1
36 (G3) L Bet 1 lose-2
2 (G2) L Bet 1 lose-3
8 (G3) L Bet 2 lose-5
Lw registry is LLLL
Now bet the Dominant in the last 3 spins
Which is group 3.
35 (G3) <<Win here

Lw registry is LLLLw

Now call on 3 more numbers

27 (G2)
21 (G2)
5 (G3)

Group 2 is dominant

35 (G3)-L
7 (G3)-L
32 (G2) <<Win here

Lw registry is LLLLwLLw

Call on 3 more
34 (G3)
28 (G2)
33 (G3)&nbsp;
G3 Is Dominant
2 (G2)-L
6 (G3) <<win here

Lw registry is LLLLwLLwLw

Call on 3 more numbers

18 (G1)<<G 1 back in the picture
5 (G3)
0 Zero
16 (G1)
I ignore Zero and take the last 4 spins
And we are on the due numbers again because G1 is back in play.
So G2 is the due Group

20 (G2)<<Win Here

Lw registry is LLLLwLLwLww

Call on 3 more numbers
3 (G3)
3 (G3)
31 (G1)
G2 is due

21 (G2) <<win

Lw registry is LLLLwLLwLnolinks

Call on 3 more numbers
18 (G1)
35 (G3)
3 (G3)
Group 2 is due again
15 (G1)=L
0<<I win here with Zero
1 g1-L
25 g2 <<win Here

Lw registry is LLLLwLLwLnolinksLwLw

Call on 3 more numbers
12 g1
22 g2
3 g3
G1 due
2 g2-L
31 g1 <<win Here

Lw registry is LLLLwLLwLnolinksLwLwLw

Call on 3 more numbers
25 g2
14 g1
4 g3
G2 due
26 g2 << win here

Lw registry is LLLLwLLwLnolinksLwLwLww

Call on 3 more numbers
26 g2
3 g3
22 g2
G1 Due
17 g1 <<Win here

Lw registry is LLLLwLLwLnolinksLwLwLnolinks

Call on 3 more numbers
6 g3
7 g3
20 g2
G1 due
31 g1 <<win Here

Lw registry is LLLLwLLwLnolinksLwLwLnolinksw

Call on 3 more numbers
33 g3
14 g1
13 g1
G2 Due
1 g1-L
27 g2 <<win Here

Lw registry is LLLLwLLwLnolinksLwLwLnolinkswLw

Call on 3 more numbers
30 g3
1 g1
22 g2
G3 due
29 g2-L
14 g1-L
36 g3 <<win Here

Lw registry is LLLLwLLwLnolinksLwLwLnolinkswLwLLw

Call 3 more
30 g3
20 g2
35 g3
G1 due
35 g3 L
36 g3 L
31 g1 <<win here

Lw registry is LLLLwLLwLnolinksLwLwLnolinkswLwLLwLLw

Call 3 more
16 g1
28 g2
36 g3
G1 due
15 g1 <<win Here

Lw registry is LLLLwLLwLnolinksLwLwLnolinkswLwLLwLLww

Call 3 more
35 g3
12 g1
35 g3
G2 Due
24 g2 <<win here

Lw registry is LLLLwLLwLnolinksLwLwLnolinkswLwLLwLLnolinks

Call 3 more
29 g2
9 g3
23 g2
G1 Due
32 g2-L
28 g2-L
33 g3-L
10 g1 <<win here

Lw registry is LLLLwLLwLnolinksLwLwLnolinkswLwLLwLLnolinksLLLw

Call 3 more
31 g1
12 g1
13 g1
Call more until another group shows
19 g1
34 g3
G2 Due
27 g2 W <<win here

Lw registry is LLLLwLLwLnolinksLwLwLnolinkswLwLLwLLnolinksLLLww

Call3 more
22 g2
22 g2
20 g2
Call until another Group shows
35 g3
Ok Now G1 due
6 g3-L
19 g1 <<win here

....Lw registry is LLLLwLLwLnolinksLwLwLnolinkswLwLLwLLnolinksLLLwwLw

The betting>>> 11122111111111111111111111111111112111

43 units bet x12=$516 outlay -less 756 return=276
276-43 units for Me taking the Zero=223 units Total profit doing it My Way.

Lanky.
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: Lanky on December 05, 2008, 04:10:48 AM
Hi Forum.

Actually I taught this to WallyGator over the phone today in America.

He did it on His Numbers that He had There.

So once again I could not Cook the Numbers up.

I will see if Wally would be so kind as to post the numbers & the results for You.

Lanky.

Ps I have just emailed Wally.
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: Worm on December 05, 2008, 07:56:43 AM
Hi Lanky
Thanks for putting this up I hope Ronjo will get better ...

Take care

/Worm [smiley=3/microwave.gif]
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: TwoCatSam on December 05, 2008, 12:04:56 PM
Lanky

Thanks for that, Mate!!  Let me see if the ol' brain is working this morning.

Ronnie's groups are:

Group (1) 1-10-11-12-13-14-15-16-17-18-19-31

Group (2) 2-20-21-22-23-24-25-26-27-28-29-32

Group (3) 3-4-5-6-7-8-9-30-33-34-35-36


I begin by collecting at least three spins. I am seeing this after reading your examples:

If all three groups are present, you always bet for the first.  Example:

G2
G3
G1

Here you would bet for G2.

If only two groups are present:

G2
G3
G2

You bet for the missing G1?

If you loose 4 bets on a sleeper section, you quit that and go with the dominate section in the last three?

Now as to the progression, do you keep on progressing after wins until you get up by a unit?  Is it a progress-down; progress-up situation like the Atilla?

Take care of your health! 

Sam





Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: Wally Gator on December 05, 2008, 06:51:56 PM
Lanky asked me to post my conversation with him yesterday as it pertains to his post on this forum.  Before I do let me say that I have never spoken with, emailed with, chatted with or otherwise had contact with Lanky.  I don't know him from anyone.  I was looking for some guidance and after reviewing posts on this forum I sent him a PM asking if he'd be willing to entertain teaching me a few things.  Without question, Lanky is perhaps the most honest and straight-shooting roulette player I've ever spoken with (I've played on and off since 1985).  He is also an educator with the utmost integrity.  He spent 4 hours with me yesterday working to ensure I completely understood how to play these strategies correctly.  I'm not here to kiss his butt, but to bring to light that you never know who you will meet along lifes' journey and be surprised.  He is one of those guys.  I am very grateful to him.  Okay, enough on that.  Here's exactly what we did.....

The numbers used in this post were taken from a mechanical wheel at the Mohegan Sun Casino in the US.  By mechanical, I mean it is a real wheel and a real ball, but without a live dealer.  The ball is released mechanically.  You get about 18-20 seconds to bet between spins.  Lanky tells me that this is called "airball" in Australia.

The groups used are as pointed out in Lanky's previous post.  Here we go:

Call 3 (this means that you count and record - not play - the next 3 spins)
spin
9 - Group 3 (G3, from here out)
24 - Group 2 (G2, from here out)
2 - Group 2
__________
Group 1 (G1, from here out) is due (this is because in the last 3 spins it didn't hit)
spin
10 - G1 << wins here
__________
Call 3
spin
12 - G1
7 - G3
28 - G2
__________
G1 is due (this is because, even though G1 appeared, it was the furthest hit in the 3 spins)
spin
18 - G1 << wins here
__________
Call 3
spin
11 - G1
9 - G3
5 - G3
__________
G2 is due (this is because it didn't show up in the previous 3 spins)
spin
0 - loss (now, Lanky plays the 0 and asked me what I wanted to do.  I said I didn't want to play the 0's, so it loses)
1 - G1 - loss
23 - G2 << wins here
__________
Call 3
spin
22 - G2
21 - G2
31 - G1
__________
G3 is due
spin
3 - G3 << wins here
__________
Call 3
spin
6 - G3
17 - G1
23 - G2
__________
G3 is due
spin
32 - G2 - loss
00 - loss
25 - G2 - loss
7 - G3 << wins here
__________
Call 3
spin
7 - G3
11 - G1
34 - G3
__________
G2 is due
spin
20 - g2 << wins here
__________
Call 3
spin
35 - G3
34 - G3
31 - G1
__________
G2 is due
spin
25 - G2 << wins here
__________
Call 3
spin
11 - G1
8 - G3
31 - G1
__________
G2 is due
spin
17 - G1 - loss
23 - G2 << wins here
__________
Call 3
spin
18 - G1
31 - G1
4 - G3
__________
G2 is due
spin
30 - G3
36 - G3
35 - G3
8 - G3 (STOP HERE AND EVALUATE) Always stop at the 4th loss.  In this case because G3 has hit all 4 spins it becomes the "dominant" group.  So, we switch to G3.
__________
G3 is the dominant group, so we switch from G2 being due to G3 being dominant.
spin
8 - G3 << wins here
__________
Call 3
spin
22 - G2 (Now, G2 is back in because it has appeared again and it will change the sequence back to the group that is due from the dominant group).  So, we switch from G3 being dominant to whatever group becomes due.
13 - G1
20 - G2
__________
G3 is due (NOT because it was the dominant group.  Only because it's due again)
8 - G3 << wins here

I hope this helps anyone wishing to give it a go.  I think it is absolutely fantastic that there are those people out there like Lanky willing to help others.  He did not sell me anything, nor try to sell me anything.  His sole purpose was to see if he could help me with my game.  Truly, this is what a "forum" is all about.  Thank you, Lanky and Ronjo, who is the architect of this strategy.  I am grateful.

As a side note .... about an hour of my conversation with Lanky revolved around what's a winning strategy.  Because he and I are a bit older, not necessarily wiser :):), we agreed that the strongest strategies can be exceptionally successful, yet in the wrong hands can be disasterous.  By this, we mean that we have both, years ago, been down the path of thinking when something is working it will work forever and we will be invincible.  Nothing could be farther from the truth than this thought process.  When it comes to roulette, undoubtedly, success is a matter of walking out while up more times than walking out with less.  It is imperative to know when to quit.
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: Lanky on December 05, 2008, 07:37:19 PM
@WALLY.
Thanks for the Post Mate,You did Good.


@ SAM

QuoteLanky

Thanks for that, Mate!!  Let me see if the ol' brain is working this morning.

Ronnie's groups are:

Group (1) 1-10-11-12-13-14-15-16-17-18-19-31

Group (2) 2-20-21-22-23-24-25-26-27-28-29-32

Group (3) 3-4-5-6-7-8-9-30-33-34-35-36


I begin by collecting at least three spins. I am seeing this after reading your examples:

If all three groups are present, you always bet for the first.  Example:

G2
G3
G1

Here you would bet for G2. <<yes Mate Correct .We bet the Furthest Back Group

If only two groups are present:

G2
G3
G2

You bet for the missing G1? <Yes G1 is the Furthest back as You have it here.

If you loose 4 bets on a sleeper section, you quit that and go with the dominate section in the last three? <Yes Correct again

Now as to the progression, do you keep on progressing after wins until you get up by a unit?  Is it a progress-down; progress-up situation like the Atilla?

I will Do an example for You Mate to explain it better.
I will round the bets up to make it easier Mate.
The first 3 bets are always 111 <Now add the last 3 lost bets=3 and always divide it by 2 to get the next bet.
Like this. (111)=3/2=2 to bet.
If that lost it would be 1 (1 1 2) =4/2=2 to bet.
If that lost it would be.
1 1 (1 2 2)=5/2=3 to bet.
If that lost it would be.
1 1 1 (2 2 3)=7/2=4 to bet.
If that lost it would be.
1 1 1 2 (2 3 4)=9/2=5 to bet ETC.

Now that I have explained that.
I can now explain this part of Your Question.
Now as to the progression, do you keep on progressing after wins until you get up by a unit?
This will automatically take care of itself Mate.
Take this example.
1 1 (1 2 2)=3 to bet. <<lets now say that we have a WIN.
So 1 1 1 2 2 3=10=-Less 9 back= Minus 1
So now You would have only 1 in your betting Registry.
1 >>so the next bet is 1
Take care of your health! 

Sam

Thank You My Dear Friend.
Love to the Wife Mate.

Lanky.
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: TwoCatSam on December 05, 2008, 11:16:16 PM
Let me second the Gator on what he said.

If there are new people on this forum who want to win, listen to the Lanky One!!  I don't think the man has a lie left in him!  If he tells you it wins money, go to work on it; it does!

Lanks, I'm going to put this puppy on a leash and walk it around the block!

OK, I'm working one system, creating one, learning two--geez!!  That should hold me a while

Don't anyone else post anything interesting!!

Sam
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: TicTacToe on December 06, 2008, 12:04:52 AM
Lanky
Quote1 1 1 2 2 3=10=-Less 9 back= Minus 1
So now You would have only 1 in your betting Registry.
1 >>so the next bet is 1


I don't get it. Maybe I'm just dense, can you elaborate a little more please.

If you would have won only on the next bet you would be at -2 where does that get you in the registry ?



Thanks


TTT
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: Lanky on December 06, 2008, 12:32:55 AM
Quote from: TicTacToe on December 06, 2008, 12:04:52 AM
Lanky
Quote1 1 1 2 2 3=10=-Less 9 back= Minus 1
So now You would have only 1 in your betting Registry.
1 >>so the next bet is 1


I don't get it. Maybe I'm just dense, can you elaborate a little more please.

If you would have won only on the next bet you would be at -2 where does that get you in the registry ?



Thanks


TTT


Hi TTT.

Ok what we do is we are flat betting the 1st 3 losses always.

And what we win back comes off the Outlay.

Lets do it in dollars & see if You get it then My Mate.

12-12-12-24-24-(36)<< is the bet that just won.
So the outlay was $120 less the return of $108= Minus $12

So our next bet would be $12.

If it lost it would look like this >> 12-12

If it wins it will look like this..12-(12)<<was the last bet that just Won.

So the outlay was 24 less the return of 36= +{12} Profit.

Then we go back to the first of three $12 bets again.

I hope I have now explained it in a Way that You understand My Friend.

Lanky.
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: TicTacToe on December 06, 2008, 12:48:16 AM
The smoke has lifted, all is crystal clear.

Thank you my friend.


TTT
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: Lanky on December 06, 2008, 04:28:26 AM
Hi Forum.

Please remember that if anyone ever wins even $1 with this way of playing the all then credit will always belong to RONJO.

Ok now that We have some interest here & before anyone runs out & tries to break the Casino.

Ronjo was always mindful of those people that prefer to bet the smallest units size possible with the most numbers covered.

So to cater for those particular people I am putting His splits here with just a little tweak of My own.

To keep the outlay down we can bet the splits with the 3 Groups.

G1= 1-10-11-12-13-14-15-16-17-18-19-31

0/1-10/11-12/15-13/14-17/18-16/19 & 31 with either 28-32-34.

G2=2-20-21-22-23-24-25-26-27-28-29-32

0/2-20/21-22/23-24/27-25/2628/29 & 32 with either 31-33-35

G3=3-4-5-6-7-8-9-30-33-34-35-36

0/3-4/5-6/9-7/8-30/33-35/36 & 34 with 31

Now doing it this way I am sure that You Can see the benefit of not only the smaller unit size .
But the fact that each 12 number Group that we started with can now cover 14 numbers.

The trade off is that it will cost an extra unit or Half unit what ever may be the case.
Then if we just had 6 splits with the 12 normal numbers.

However I think for those that would prefer this way of betting then the benefits outweigh the little extra that needs to be bet.

Oh and don't be stupid if You bet the splits then be satisfied with half of what You would want to Win playing the single numbers.

Your Friend.

Lanky
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: Ronjo on December 06, 2008, 09:41:13 AM
Hi Lanky,

Thanks Bud,its greatly appreciated I could not have done better, you are spot on.

Regards,
Ronjo.
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: hoper35 on December 07, 2008, 04:17:10 AM
Sounds promising.  Has similar groupings been developed for the American wheel?


Ron. 8)
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: Lanky on December 07, 2008, 06:51:19 AM
Quote from: hoper35 on December 07, 2008, 04:17:10 AM
Sounds promising.  Has similar groupings been developed for the American wheel?


Ron. 8)

Hi Ron.

Betting the same way Wally & I ran through nearly 500 spins today on a Double zero wheel.
He bet 0/00 split with every bet.
It came up a few times too.

Lanky.

Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: Clothdog on December 07, 2008, 04:38:11 PM
hi Lanky,
check out these spins from a recent casino trip. this is a 00 wheel. no rng here.
I seemed to start losing quite abit in the middle and did not recover.
25
13
9  ..play grp 2
2  ..win
19
22
10 play grp 3
34 win
35
34
31 play grp 2
36 L
15 L
17 L
21 W
15
15
2  PLAY GRP 3
31 L
25 L
4  W
23
26
3  PLAY GRP 1
22 L
28 L
27 L
3  L..STOP


23 PLAY GRP 3? BECAUSE IT FINALLY SHOWED?
15 L
29 L
15 L
1  L..STOP
23
20
30 PLAY GRP 1 ? OR DOMINANT GRP? CONFUSION HERE. IF PLAY DOMINANT
6  L
19 L
36 L
27 W
31
33
25 GO BACK TO START PLAYING LEAST..GROUP 1
20 L
34 L
35 L
20 L..STOP


17 ..PLAY GRP 2
33 L
17 L
29 W
17

12 PLAY GRP 3
20 L
14 L
25 L
22 L..STOP
33
11
7  PLAY DOMINANT HERE..GRP 3
16 L
31 L
1  L
33 W
26

35 ...PLAY LEAST BECAUSE #26 SHOWED
11 L
20 W
Is this the way to play? not a good showing and seems to me I have confusion when to go back and change groups or what point I change groups. Is it after 4 losses and switch to dominant group or if the cold group shows back up again in your next 3 spins?
thans.
cd
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: TwoCatSam on December 07, 2008, 08:45:41 PM
Lanky, Ronjo and all.....

I am dry testing this with numbers Track4 saves to disk.  (Another great feature of that program!)

Needless to say, if---forever---the thing held up the way it has over about 100 spins, well, you know!

I will scan and post sheets when I get home. 

Sam
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: TwoCatSam on December 07, 2008, 09:48:41 PM
Lanky

Ran into a strange trot.  Can I run this past you for your consultation?  I will show how and why I played it.

18-1
11-1
14-1
30-3...I bet for the missing, 2.
34-3..L1
13-1..L2
16-1..L3
33-3..L4...Since I have no dominant in my four losers (3,1,1,3), I went with the 1 for two reasons:  1.  Lots of 1s in the past; it is dominant.  2.  Just looking at the last four 1 is the fartherest back.  So I carry on betting 1.
21-2..L5...Here the 2 I was seeking comes back into the fray.  Do I continue to bet on the 1 or switch back to the 2?  Here's what happened.
6-3..L6
17-1..W!

Sam
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: TwoCatSam on December 07, 2008, 10:36:00 PM
I've just finished  mind-numbingly boring test of well over 200 spins in a trot.  This thing went six L in a row one time and 5 L a couple more.  The progression Lanky outlined would handle that easily.

I'll scan and post the sheets Monday or Tuesday.

Sam
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: Lanky on December 07, 2008, 11:36:09 PM
Quotehi Lanky,

Hi Mate
No problems I will put my reply in blue for You Cobber
It will look a bit messy with your comments there as well but this way you will be able to see the difference Mate.

check out these spins from a recent casino trip. this is a 00 wheel. no rng here.
I seemed to start losing quite abit in the middle and did not recover.
25
13
9  ..play grp 2
2  ..win bet 1= +{24}Profit
19
22
10 play grp 3
34 win bet 1=+24=24={48}profit
35
34
31 play grp 2
36 L bet 1 lost
15 L bet 1 lost
17 L bet1 lost
21 W bet 2 win 12+48={60} profit (Ronjo says to go home here)
15
15
2  PLAY GRP 3
31 L bet 1 lost
25 L bet 1 lost
4  W bet 1=Even & a carry over Profit total of {60}
23
26
3  PLAY GRP 1
22 L Bet 1 lost
28 L Bet 1 lost
27 L Bet1 lost
3  L.. Bet 2 lost  STOP <<correct  
But now because You have lost 4 straight bets on the Due You now turn & bet the Dominant from the last 3 spins.
Which in this case was 2 2 3 =G2 Dominant

9-Lost  Bet 2 lost
1-Lost  <<G1 now back in play after we finish betting these dominant bets   < Bet 3 lost
23 PLAY GRP 3? BECAUSE IT FINALLY SHOWED? <<Won bet on Dominant G2 Bet 111223(4) <<winning bet
So its 111223(4)=14 out –less 12 back= Minus 2 like this 1-1

Call on 3 numbers to find the Due Group
15 L <no bet G1
29 L <no bet G2
15 L <no bet G1

Group 3 Now DUE
1  L..STOP Lost bet 1
23=Lost bet 2
20 =Lost bet 2
30 PLAY GRP 1 ? OR DOMINANT GRP? CONFUSION HERE. IF PLAY DOMINANT <<This Bet won CD as it G3
So its now 11122(3)=10 out- less 9= Minus 1  

Call on 3 more numbers

6  L <no bet G3
19 L <no bet G1
36 L <no bet G3

Group 2 Now DUE

27 W- = Win bet 1(1)=2 out –3 back=+12+60 from before ={72} profit

Call on 3 more numbers

31-G1
33 –G3
25 –G2 GO BACK TO START PLAYING LEAST..GROUP 1

Group 1 Now DUE <<correct

20 L-G2 bet 1 lost
34 L-G3 bet 1 lost
35 L-G3 bet 1 lost
20 L..G2  bet 2 lost STOP  <<correct
Now turn & play the dominant from the Last 3 spins which were 332.
So Group 3 is now Dominant

7-G3 <<win here 
Bets are 1112(2)=7 out- less 6 back- minus 1

Call on 3 more

5 –G3
17 –G1.PLAY GRP 2 <<Group 1 has come back into play as we are calling on so we will bet the Due at the end of the call on.
33 L-G3


So its gone 3 1 1= G2 DUE

17- G1 L Bet lost

29 W <<we win Here bet 11(1)=3 out –less 3 back=Even & a carry over progit of +{72}

Call on 3 more for the DUE

17

12 PLAY GRP 3  << correct

20 L bet 1
14 L bet 1
25 L bet 1
22 L..bet 2 STOP  <<correct
Now turn & play the dominant from the Last 3 spins which were 122
So G2 is the Dominant
33-G3=Lost bet 2<<<G1 now back in play after we finish betting these dominant bets

11-G1=Lost bet 2
7 –G3= Lost bet 3  PLAY DOMINANT HERE..GRP 3
16 L=G Lost bet 4
Now back to The DUE.

So we call on 3 more numbers

31 L <<G1
1  L <<G1
33 W <<G3

Group 2 is now Due

26  <<Win here

So the bets are 1 1 12 2 3 4 (5)=19 out –less 15 back= Minus 5
Like this
1112=(2)is the next bet

Call on 3 more

8  <<G3
35 <<G3...PLAY LEAST BECAUSE #26 SHOWED
11 <<G1 L

Group 2 is Due again

20 W <<win Here

Bets are 1112(2)=7 out –less 6 back is minus 12+72 profit={60} total Profit overall.

Is this the way to play? not a good showing and seems to me I have confusion when to go back and change groups or what point I change groups. Is it after 4 losses and switch to dominant group <<yes  correct Mate. or if the cold group shows back up again in your next 3 spins?
thans.
cd

Your Friend

Lanky.
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: Wally Gator on December 08, 2008, 12:08:49 AM
clothdog,

Just a quick note to say that if you follow exactly what Lanky is teaching, you will find this to work exceptionally well.  I have been having many sessions similar to yours thinking something didn't play right.  But, once I've run them by Lanky I found what I've done wrong and realize it's not the system at all, but what I did that screwed it up.  I am still working to get the system down so I don't have to think about it at all, it just comes through normal play.  I can honestly say I have not seen anything like it and if you follow exactly what Lanky (or Ronjo) show you, you will undoubtedly leave far many more times a winner and find success in the long term.  I am very confident this will be the case in my situation and look forward to writing about it here.

As a side note, do you know the ancient Chinese proverb: "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear" ?  If you believe this, you are sending your notes to the right guy.

Best, Gator
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: Lanky on December 08, 2008, 12:16:25 AM
Sam

Yes Mate Not such a good start Cobber,


18-1
11-1
14-1
30-3...I bet for the missing, 2.

Yes G2 is now due

34-3..L1
13-1..L2
16-1..L3
33-3..L4.

Now You pick the Dominant Group from the THREE last spins.
In this case it is 113=G1 is the Dominant Group

21-G2-lost
6-G3-lost
17 G1 –Won

The betting would have gone this way Sam
111223(4) <<is the winning bet.
So its
1112234=14 out –less 12 back=Minus 2
And in you betting Registry it would now look like this

1-1-(1) <<is the next bet

Your Mate .

Lanky.
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: TwoCatSam on December 08, 2008, 01:10:28 AM
Lanky

I gots me threes and fours mixed up.  Time to make a 3x5 rules card.  Thanks!

That was midway through the trot.  It actually went quite well throughout.

Sam
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: hoper35 on December 08, 2008, 01:58:26 AM
If I had of played this yesterday @ Fallsview:
19 - 1
25 - 2
18 - 1 play 3
14 - 1 lose
3   - 3 win
11 - 1
19 - 1
22 - 2 play 3
4  - 3 win
18 - 1
9  - 3
14 - 1 play 2
31 - 1 lose
21 - 2 win
34 - 3
31 - 1
30 - 3 play 2
14 - 1 lose
0  - ignore (win with 0/00 split)
17 - 1 lose
34 - 3 lose
18 - 1 lose - 4th loss - switch to 1
17 - 1 win
24 - 2
36 - 3
9  - 3 play 1
14 - 1 win
23 - 2
15 - 1
23 - 2 play 3
4  - 3 win
9  - 3
24 - 2
19 - 1
23 - 2 play 3
33 - 3 win
5  - 3
36 - 3

I would have done quite well using this method.  I was at even, with my own method, when I quit recording the above (I won $275 later).

Shows promise.
Ron.
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: hoper35 on December 08, 2008, 02:25:01 AM
Quote from: Lanky on December 07, 2008, 06:51:19 AM
Quote from: hoper35 on December 07, 2008, 04:17:10 AM
Sounds promising.  Has similar groupings been developed for the American wheel?


Ron. 8)

Hi Ron.

Betting the same way Wally & I ran through nearly 500 spins today on a Double zero wheel.
He bet 0/00 split with every bet.
It came up a few times too.

Lanky.



Thanks, Lanky.

I quite often add the 0/00 split, too.  Hate to get beat by those zeroes. :)


Ron.
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: Lanky on December 08, 2008, 02:54:34 AM
@ Ron.

Yes Mate I learnt a long time ago to make the Zero or at least part of it My Friend.

Now Guys.

As most of You know I always record the 1st 20 numbers that come out on the Display board.

And I go right back to the 1st number & work this out from there as I do with the Lw Method.

By the time I get to the end there is nearly always a pattern of either DUE or Dominant present.

No Pattern....No bet.

Now for those that don't have many numbers that they can see straight away.
Like out here on Air-ball we only get to see the last 7 numbers.

Then I would suggest that You wait until there is a Virtual win before you start betting.

I am just trying to help thats all by telling You how or what I do.
More importantly is what I have seen that causes the most problems & How to get around it to some degree.

Lanky.
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: djroulette on December 08, 2008, 06:31:40 AM
Lanky my freind what sort of bankroll are we looking at when playing this system??? how many units??? would you consider 500 as a safe start??

dj
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: MXkid77 on December 08, 2008, 08:00:15 AM
I just did this quick, may be some help for those using the system online. It's my first major excel code, and so far i don't see any bugs. I am open to suggestions on improving it, i would like to see it being able to tell when to bet and list the progression to be used. But, still a lot more studying on excel before then.

In the members downloads:

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Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: Lanky on December 08, 2008, 08:20:50 AM
Quote from: djroulette on December 08, 2008, 06:31:40 AM
Lanky my freind what sort of bankroll are we looking at when playing this system??? how many units??? would you consider 500 as a safe start??

dj

Hi Dj.

My Mate this is what Ronjo says to have as a bank.

QuoteRequired Bankroll:

$1 = $100 + $150 backup
$5 = $500 + $750 backup
$10 = $1000 + $1500 backup
$25 = $2500 + $3750 backup

Me Personally I would recommend a 500 unit Bank.
EG;
50c=$250
$1=$500
But then again thats just Me.

Your Friend.

Lanky.
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: djroulette on December 08, 2008, 12:11:55 PM
Any stop loss requirements you would recomend as well??? i was thinking stop on loss of 30% of bank and aim for 10% profit?? what you think

dj
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: TwoCatSam on December 08, 2008, 02:59:22 PM
Ran this through about 80 spins in the motel this morning (I never quit! "Sir, Could I get that coffin with WiFi?")  ;D

This thing begs for testing with real money and now that Lanky has put up the splits version, I can go for .25 per number.  I am working on a progression slide rule thingy (not near as pretty as those wheels, rjl) but it will make calculation much easier.  Well, for me anyway.  I get so damn confused I need training wheels on me arse just to walk straight!

Good on ya, Lanky!  Health and winnings to you and Nancy!

Sam
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: TwoCatSam on December 09, 2008, 01:16:21 AM
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Title: Questions for Lanky
Post by: TwoCatSam on December 10, 2008, 01:56:04 AM
Lanky

Facts are black; questions are navy.

Here is an actual trot from today at Riverbelle:

3
3
1.....here we bet for 2
3
1
1
1....here the 2 is dead and we bet for 1
2....now the 2 is active again..................Should I continue betting for 1 or return to 2 since it is now active
2
2
0
1......winner

Next trot: (hypothetical)

1
1
3.........go for 2
1
3
3
1.......2 is dead; go for 3
1
1
2........alive again
1....Since I have missed 4 betting for the 3 and the 1 is dominant in the last three, do I continue on with the 2 or switch to the 1?

I realize the answer to my first question could make this question meaningless, as the 2 coming alive again would answer all.

Thanks!

Sam





Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: TwoCatSam on December 10, 2008, 02:00:59 AM
All........

I've been looking for the bad run and today I got it.  A $1 per number would have swollen to $10 per number before you hit.  I am thinking of a plateau.  I am thinking like this:

"OK, I will bet up to $5 per number and stop there should I not be winning.  I will flat-bet the $5 until the tide turns and I start to win again.  When I get below $5 I will start the progression again."

It seems like for every long run (six or seven losers in a row) there are a slew of winners that hit on the first or second bet.

Input anyone?

Sam

Victor,

I misspelled the word "losers" just to test the new feature.  It works!
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: Lanky on December 10, 2008, 03:00:49 AM
HI Sam.

Like I have said in a post before Mate I record the 1st 20 spins & work down from spin number one to see what patterns have developed.
No patterns no bets.

There is a reason for this My Mate.
It will keep You out of the Sessions from hell when they come.
Or at least keep your losses to a minimum.

Another thing that I have not told yet (time & health have not permitted) is that from these Hell sessions I have learned to win with this by playing the Lw's as If we would on the JD so to speak.

That's  another reason why I always record the number spun it tells me a lot when it come to the time to bet the Lw way.

I will do a post as soon as I can following this I will do a post using a set of numbers that Wally did the other day.
It is one of the worse sessions You will ever see.
But I wonder if w can still get some dollars out of it ??
We will see.
..........................................................................
But I will answer Your Questions as they stand here now Mate.



QuoteLanky

Facts are black; questions are navy.

Here is an actual trot from today at Riverbelle:

3
3
1.....here we bet for 2 <<correct as DUE
3
1
1
1....here the 2 is dead and we bet for 1 <<correct as DOM
2....now the 2 is active again..................Should I continue betting for 1 or return to 2 since it is now active

Doing it my way I would bet for G1 to still be Dominant/and record the fact that G2 is back in Play so we can turn back to the DUE Groups after these bets
2
2
0  <<I would win here too Sam
1......winner <<correct  

From here I would call on 3 more numbers & then Bet The DUE

Now look back Sam all the other bets would be Virtual Losses The 1st time a V/win shows up is on G1 that You have winner written.
That sure saved you a stack of money My Mate.
Providing of course that you were recording the spins like I do.

Next trot: (hypothetical)

1
1
3.........go for 2 <<correct as Due
1
3
3
1.......2 is dead; go for 3 <<correct as Dom
1
1
2........alive again
1....Since I have missed 4 betting for the 3 and the 1 is dominant in the last three, do I continue on with the 2 or switch to the 1?

You ca see that G2 came back into play that tells me that the DUE is back in Play.
So I would call on another 3 numbers 1st before playing the DUE

I realize the answer to my first question could make this question meaningless, as the 2 coming alive again would answer all.

Thanks!

Sam

Your Mate

Lanky
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: Lanky on December 10, 2008, 10:05:13 PM
Hi Wally.

This is using V/L= Virtual Loss and of course V/W= Virtual Win.

And how it can Identify a Hell Session sometimes.

I know we have touched on this before but I thought I would remind You that's all Mate.

You walk into the Casino and see this.


Call 3 spins


5-G3
7-G3
10-G1

GROUP 2 DUE


15-G1-V/L
4-G3-V/L
30-G3-V/L
19-G1-V/L

GROUP 3 DOMINANT


21-G2-V/L (<G2 back in play as the DUE)
14-G1-V/L
26-G2-V/L
25-G2-V/L

Call on 3 more spins


10-G1
16-G1
21-G2

GROUP 3 DUE


0-0- <<IGNORE AS V/WIN
19-G1-V.L
3-G3-V/WIN << 1st Virtual win

Call on 3 more spins

20-G2
7-G3
8 –G3  << Note Spin 20 <<
(Note only 1 win in 20 spins Being in Virtual saved us 7 lost bets
)

GROUP 1 DUE

20-G2-L-(1)
26-G2-L-1(1)
9-G3-L-11(1)
22-G2-L-111(2)

Group 2 Dominant

Wally I don't know about You but there would be alarm bells going off every where for Me.

With only 1 win in 11 bets not counting Zero. In a 24 spin Total

Let me pose this Question to You would You go into Virtual again ???

And wait for another Win to Come.

(After all You know that I have a 2 bet stop loss on the Lw method & I have gone to 4 losses here as if I was playing the L on the JD or LD )


9-G3-V/L
1-G1-V/L <<(G1 back in play for DUE )
30-G3-V/L
1-G1-V/L

Call on 3 more spins


35-G3
5-G3
16-G1

Group 2 Due

16-G1-V/L
3-G3-V/L
24-G2-V/Win

Call on 3 more spins

20-G2
12-G1
17-G1

Group 3 DUE


27-G2-L-1112(2)
13-G1-L-11122(3)
19-G1-L-111223(4)
0-0-0-W-1112234(5)=19 Outlay-less 15 back= Minus 5
34-G3-W-1112(2)=7 Outlay-less 6 back= Minus 1

Call on 3 more spins


31-G1
31-G1
10-G1
22-G2

Group 3 Due

4-G3-W-1(1)=2 Outlay-less 3 back= +1 unit= $12

Less $9 for bets on the Zero={$3} Profit. On a Single Zero wheel.


And if you were betting both the 0 and the 00 separately on the 00 wheel You lose -$6

There was only 6 possible wins in 47 spins.

Now that's a Hell session.

But in Your Case Wally you lose $6 instead of approx $900.

Your Friend .

Lanky.

Ps.
My Mate Wiggy who is a Clever Guy Plays this differently to Me .
I will ask & see If he will do a post.
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: wiggy on December 10, 2008, 11:11:44 PM
Lanky's idea about watching for early patterns for 20 spins is a top idea, this will indicate how you should attack the session. I also play for 5spins chasing the due group then 5 spins chasing a dominant group.
These spins suggest ok dispersion amongst the 3 groups...
In this case I would Call on 3 spins to see our "due" group...if it was bad I'd track against 5 spins
I track different to Lanky where If I see groupd 3,2,1 come out I will wait until I get a set of 3 spins which doesn't include a group for example: 3,2,3, or 1,1,2 where the "due" group is clearly visible. This is just my way of tracking and everybody should test and see what works for themselves.
Here's Lanky's numbers or Wally's with my method of attack.

5-G3      
7-G3      
10-G1   G2 is now due   
15-G1   L   
4-G3   L   
30-G3   L   
19-G1   L   
21-G2   W   
14-G1      
26-G2      
25-G2   G3 is now due   
10-G1   L   
16-G1   L   
21-G2   L   
0-0   W   Always hedge Zero - He will save you from despair
19-G1      
3-G3                              G3 - 7
20-G2                              G2 - 5
7-G3   G1 is now due                           G1 - 7
8 –G3    L   End 20 virtual test spins and dispersion looks ok stick with tracking 3 numbers                        Z - 1
20-G2                              
26-G2                              
9-G3   G1 is now due                           
22-G2   L                           
9-G3   L                           
1-G1   W                           
30-G3                              
1-G1                              
35-G3   G2 is now due                           
5-G3   L                           
16-G1   L                           
16-G1   L                           
3-G3   L   
24-G2   W   
20-G2      
12-G1      
17-G1   G3 is now due   
27-G2   L   
13-G1   L   
19-G1   L   
0-0   W   Always hedge Zero - He will save you from despair
34-G3      
31-G1      
31-G1   G2 is now due   
10-G1   L   
22-G2   W   
4-G3   End...   
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: Shan on December 13, 2008, 01:23:58 AM
Hi Lanky

When I put the Math behind the progression whilst using the splits framework with 0's in the mix every bet, I can't quite figure out how to get my negative balance above its entry point. Other then receiving a few WWWWs to bail out the increasing water. Is this correct Progression below I tried to apply your calculations.

My registry is as follows and hopefully you can help me find a path back up to the +1.

Thats even if I have played your progression correctly, where will I start the progression now? Back at the beginning even though I am 11 units down?

LLLLLWLLWLLLW
1112231121112


[table=,]
Spin,Bet,Cost,Won,Total
L,1,7,0,-7
L,1,7,0,-14
L,1,7,0,-21
L,2,14,0,-35
L,2,14,0,-49
W,3,21,54,-16
L,1,7,0,-23
L,1,7,7,-30
W,2,14,36,-12
L,1,7,0,-19
L,1,7,0,-26
L,1,7,0,-33
W,2,14,36,-11
[/table]

Thanks for you time Lanky

Shan
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: Lanky on December 13, 2008, 09:46:24 AM
Hi Shan.

Thank You for the Post My Friend.

Firstly Its not MY progression.

I first came across it some years ago.
It was called the DOZEN RECOVERY BETTING PLAN.

It is the progression that Ronjo uses.
I think that Ronjo worked it all out Himself.

Which is no surprise to Me as the Man is very clever.
And in His answer to Jerek in the chat the other night.
He told Jerek that He has not lost a Bankroll in 4 years.
Now there's a Testimony to the Man's ability.

And Secondly this statement of Yours.

QuoteOther then receiving a few WWWWs to bail out the increasing water.

I would not call 3 wins in 13 bets exactly a plethora of Wins My Mate.

It's a 23% hit rate.

And another Win would get You Even again with You Bankroll.


And if You look back through the posts here that I have done you will see things like this underneath where I have made provisions for taking the Zero bets and subtracting them from the profit at the end of the sessions.
QuoteLess $9 for bets on the Zero={$3} Profit. On a Single Zero wheel.
And if you were betting both the 0 and the 00 separately on the 00 wheel You lose -$6
So in effect I would have nearly the same result as You.
Because I made provisions for 13 & 14 numbers betting them individually.

But a Dozen Recovery Plan that has more then 12 numbers in it is not going to work as it was originally designed to do My Friend.

Because betting 12 numbers with a payout of 2/1=33.%
So taking 14 numbers or 7 splits=38.8%.
So Your actually losing approx 5.5% in return per bet.
And that's closer to 6/4 in reality.

6/4=1.5 to 1.... Not the 2/1 that the progression was built around.

That may not seem much in the scheme of things.
But to put this into perspective I will do this example for You.
$100 bet @ 2/1=$300 return.
$100 bet @ 6/4=$250 return. 

The point I am trying to make is that by betting more then 12 numbers or 6 splits.
Then the percentages of the returns have been tampered with as the Progression Plan was designed to return to the player.

And I think I made reference to the fact that there would have to be some trade off betting the splits.

However if You want to take care of that while you are betting then you will have to make some provisions to do so.
But by doing this your bets will rise faster as You Go.

And that's ok too, I guess it will all come down to how each player wants to do it.
And His or Hers tolerance for betting bigger units and risking more money.

Shan apart from the fact that you either don't like or don't recognise the safety factor in only losing small with a 23% strike rate.

Then I can suggest that we ask Wiggy to post his 10 step progression.
Where 1 win in any of those 10 bets will net You a Profit.

But You will want big balls to play it on a losing run.

Shan its not about winning every time.
Its about how much You don't lose My Friend.

Once again thanks for the post Shan

I hope I have been some help to someone somewhere.

Good On Ya Mate.

Lanky.
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: TwoCatSam on December 13, 2008, 02:11:44 PM
Its not about winning every time.
Its about how much you don't lose 

There's one to post on the mirror, the frige, in front of the toilet and next to your compter.

Sam
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: Kingpin on December 13, 2008, 06:33:11 PM
QuoteIts not about winning every time.
Its about how much you don't lose 

There's one to post on the mirror, the frige, in front of the toilet and next to your compter.

Sam

Nice One Sam! I'll print this one out before my next attempt at the tables  ;)


Kingpin
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: TwoCatSam on December 13, 2008, 07:19:57 PM
Be sure to add Lanky's name under it!!

He said it; I just copied it.  I copy most everything!

Sam
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: kompressor on December 14, 2008, 12:42:43 PM
after 4 lost of the due group we switch for dominant group for how long ? do we switch again after 4 lost or stick to this group till it win ?

thanks
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: Shan on December 14, 2008, 05:41:54 PM
Thanks for your time and effort Lanky, I really appreciate your reply to my questions/statements. Your points are very clear and honest and I always admire the integrity of fellow Aussies when you're out of the country.

This is very intriguing how the 23% win rate can leave me with a such a small loss if I choose to leave the table now. If I intelligently waited for the next win with Ronjo's progression or DOZEN RECOVERY BETTING PLAN I could be all balanced out. With the suggested $500 bankroll or $250 for split betting I can clearly notice that there is no dent in my armor. It's not an issue if I disliked or failed to see the safety in this balanced diet. It was more to see if the progression which I was learning being played correctly and Its OK that it didn't climb to a positive on every win. I thought I was playing it incorrectly. It's intention is more to my liking now you have pointed a few key things out.

The 0 or 0/00 is an added addition to bet strategy which I forgot about, we do have a choice here. As I have noticed eventually pays itself back, if not in this session but then it may add up in the next, so I will continue to add it in playing the 7 splits.

Wiggy hi,
            As Lanky suggested it would be nice to see your alternative betting plan if you don't mind sharing?

One last thanks to Ronjo and his clever mind.

Kind regards
Shan



Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: Wally Gator on December 14, 2008, 09:42:06 PM
Lanky has taught me both Ronjo's system and Wiggy's playing of it.  For me, I'll stick with Ronjo's method as modified a bit by Lanky because last week I ran 500 spins using the modification Wiggy made with the 10 steps and it failed twice.  For me, the loss is simply too large.  And, just when I was recovering the damn thing lost again.

Now, that all said, if I were looking for the quick win and quit it was fine.  But I purposely played it looking for a loss and then to see if it could recover.  So, had I started on the loss I would not have recovered.

Says alot about Lanky's comments regarding it not being about winning, but about not losing. If you find yourself going down the slippery slope, STOP, evaluate what's going on and restart with different patterns forming.  Lanky is exceptional at teaching all this.  But, you gotta listen to what he's teaching.

Best, Gator
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: wiggy on December 14, 2008, 11:47:27 PM
Would you mind sending me the 500 spins wally?
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: hoper35 on December 15, 2008, 03:05:28 AM
Ran the original version through about 60 spins tonight at Wild Jack.  Only went past 4 losses once.  Bet real money on the last three sets.  Nice!!!


Ron.
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: Wally Gator on December 18, 2008, 01:22:00 AM
Hi wiggy,

Here are the 500 spins.  Sorry for the delay.

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Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: Shan on December 18, 2008, 05:45:15 AM
Hi,

Just to note there are a few 37's and 38's in your data.

Also no Zeroes

Shan


Quote from: Wally Gator on December 18, 2008, 01:22:00 AM
Hi wiggy,

Here are the 500 spins.  Sorry for the delay.

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Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: Lanky on December 18, 2008, 07:26:59 AM
QuoteHi,

Just to note there are a few 37's and 38's in your data.

Also no Zeroes

Shan

Hello Shan My Mate.

Your right Cobber.

That bloody Wally had me going nuts over that when he 1st started to send me things........Lmao

His #37=0

His #38=00

We will have to teach them Fairdinkum True Blue You Beaut Aussie Lingo Shan...hahhahahah

Keep well My Friend and if there is ever anything I can do for You Mate just drop Me a PM.

Lanky.







Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: Wally Gator on December 19, 2008, 01:02:05 AM
Sorry about that Shan.

Lanky has it right.  The 37 is a single 0 and the 38 is a double 0 (00).  For some reason when I run it on excel I've got to use other than 0 and 00.  Regardless, it comes up to 38 numbers, the same as that on a double zero wheel.

Thanks for noticing.  Lanky actually kept talking to me even after pulling all his hair out ..... says alot about character, eh! .... er, or lack thereof .... hahahahahaha.

Best, Gator
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: pgtmedu on December 20, 2008, 10:43:55 AM
Hi,
I'd like to know if there is anything difference from betting on the dozens vs betting on this 3 group system?
Would Lanky or Ronjo or someone explain it for me, please.
Dinh
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: hoper35 on December 20, 2008, 06:35:08 PM
I like to switch between Ronjo's groups and the regular dozens and columns.
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: TwoCatSam on December 20, 2008, 06:44:31 PM
hoper35

Ah, tea!  I love your little postscript.  Yes, tea is just the thing on a cold Oklahoma day.  A fire, a cup of tea, a good woman, a dog and cat or two--well, it doesn't get much better than that.

I love oolong tea with my Chinese food.  I sweeten it which makes the waiters cringe.  They're real Chinese who barely speak English. 

An in the summer, the iced version!  Cattlemen's in The Stockyards in Oklahoma City has the best iced tea in the world.

...and the doctor says I can't have a drop of the stuff!

Bring on the rum!!  Better yet, let's go to Margaritaville!

Sam
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: hoper35 on December 21, 2008, 02:39:59 AM
Wish I could drink more tea.  Would help me get through all these snow storms we're getting here in Toronto.
I was going to go to my Blue Heron casino tomorrow, but we're supposed to get another storm.

I'm limited to one or two cups per day of caffeinated tea.  We have about eight different kinds of tea.

Our holiday drinks this year are mostly rum & coke or hot chocolate (With malt, marshmallows and Godiva white chocolate liquor).
Haven't had a good margarita for years.

Ron.
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: Wally Gator on December 31, 2008, 03:06:45 PM
hoper35,

Do you have any specific methodology for switching between all the groups?  Do you find one thing works better than another.  I've been playing Ronjo's groups and they consistently bring a very good result.  I'm working on when to put Lanky's 6-point divisor up for a less dramatic progression.

Best, Gator
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: Ronjo on January 01, 2009, 02:13:19 AM
Hi everyone,I am depositing into your accounts 365 days of Happiness,Success,Love and good health.
HAPPY NEW YEAR!

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Ronjo.
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: Wally Gator on January 01, 2009, 02:17:08 AM
Thanks Ronjo.  Happy New Year!
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: Clothdog on January 01, 2009, 07:10:25 PM
Happy New year Ronjo!
Out with the old in with the new! Fresh start, letting go and moving forward cobber!
cd
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: Phishalot on January 12, 2009, 03:05:07 PM
Been reading this method all weekend. Have a few questions.

The BR was stated to be 500 units. Is this 500 single units or 500 bet units? As when betting the bet would be 12.

Is there a progression be used that does not go in to a loss after the 4th bet?

I also would like to know what is the difference between 3 groups and dozens?

Ran the method through my records 5,000 spins. Held up very well, but did have one very long losing series where when it did win, the progression only returned half of the money bet.
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: Ronjo on September 15, 2012, 11:56:05 AM
Hello everyone,
Been awhile since I have been on the forum,well I have been testing an approach to numbers like the "TEENS-TWENTYS-THIRTYS.thats three groups with a passive progression and have been getting good results.I will post the groups and do some diagrams and post them and go through them with you in the next couple weeks.you are all welcomre to join in and give your imput or testing.If you look at the marquee in the casino,you will notice that numbers like the mentioned above will pop up very close together,and I have found a way to capitilize on this,so far I have had good results and have not yet crashed,although it is inevitable that it will happen LOL.the three groups are:
G1 ELEVEN #S G2 ELEVEN #S and G3 FOURTEEN #S

GROUP 1 = 1-10-11-12-13-14-15-16-17-18-19

GROUP 2 = 2-20-21-22-23-24-25-26-27-28-29

GROUP 3= 3-4-5-6-7-8-9-30-31-32-33-34-35-36



Will post diagrams later.

Regards,
Ronjo.
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: MattyMattz on September 15, 2012, 12:11:58 PM
Great to see you back old buddy.

Cheers,
MM
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: Ronjo on September 15, 2012, 02:07:01 PM
Thanks Matty.
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: Ronjo on September 16, 2012, 03:39:54 AM
This is how your bets will look with the three different groups:

Group 1

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Group 2

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Group 3

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Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: VLS on September 16, 2012, 07:13:26 AM
Welcome back Ronjo :thumbsup:

Glad to see you are active and kicking with a method :good: :good:.
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: Far-Q on September 16, 2012, 07:17:23 AM
Hi,

Its GREAT to see you here. When I first started playing Roulette I played one of your methods (posted on here) and did very well,so Im looking forward to see what you are doing now!!
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: Ronjo on September 16, 2012, 11:03:50 AM
Thanks Guys,Is Lanky still around as I miss him.No big deal Vic this method is ok if you have patience in 149 spins I made $159 profit not bad.the highest progression I had was 6 chips on ea. number,you could probably play a bit more aggressively but will run into trouble, and the longest I waited for a play was 14 spins.if you are patient you can make a little profit.see the samples below.I try and make a 20% profit on my bankroll and call it a day.

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Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: Ronjo on September 19, 2012, 03:25:56 PM
Hi There,been busy but will post more information by the end of the weekend.and show how to make some crown combining these numbers,will fill in all the commas and fullstops and then we can get on with it.
till later,
Regards,
Ronjo.
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: Far-Q on September 20, 2012, 05:37:37 PM
Quote from: Ronjo on September 19, 2012, 03:25:56 PM
Hi There,been busy but will post more information by the end of the weekend.and show how to make some crown combining these numbers,will fill in all the commas and fullstops and then we can get on with it.
till later,
Regards,
Ronjo.


Looking forward to it!
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: Ronjo on October 25, 2012, 02:05:49 AM
Hi guys,
Sorry about the delay,have not been well,but will resume shortly.
Regards,
Ronjo,
Title: Re: Ronjo's 3 Group System.
Post by: Pedro on October 26, 2012, 07:33:43 PM
Ronjo

Glad to see your roaring again, hope your feeling better.

Have played your systems many times with  good outcomes, and will give this one a run for its money.
Now if our mate Lanky would return, it would be like old times.

Thanks again,
Pedro