As per nolinks://vlsroulette.com/general-board/what-it-is/msg110763/#msg110763 (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/general-board/what-it-is/msg110763/#msg110763) I'm starting a 100 spin challenge between me, suitcase-charlie, and whoever wants to join. This is for fun. :)
We're gonna need a dealer, I.e. someone who volunteers to post spin results and calculates the balances of each participant after each bet.
The rules are:
- The dealer must use single-zero spins coming from a real wheel with a real dealer from a real casino. They must not be publicly available, nor must they be shared with anyone of the participants.
- The dealer will first post 30 spins, and then the game starts. The dealer will wait for bets. Once all participants place their bets (what to bet and how much) or say "no bet" if they want to skip a spin. The dealer then posts the next spin, and list the current balance of each player.
- All participants will start with a 1000 unit bankroll. They are free to use whatever method/progression they want with it.
- Comments by non-participants are welcome during play. But kindly don't flood the thread with discussions/debates.
- The challenge ends after 100 spins (not counting the initial 30 spins) with a score list. The winner gets one of these:
(https://www.vlsroulette.com/proxy.php?request=nolinks%3A%2F%2Fnolinks.coolest-gadgets.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fego.jpg&hash=d7c33735181b3825ec22ff93c8a599469a9e110b)
(joke)
DISCLAIMER: This is NOT about "proving" anything to anyone (100 spins proves nothing as far as long-term performance is concerned anyway), I don't have the "holy grail" nor do I personally think anyone here has. So please lighten up and enjoy the challenge. 8)
So he who wants to be the dealer, and those who want to participate as a players please step forward. :)
sounds good to me.
Can I have one of those keyrings even if I lose, lol.
NO! lol
The dealer must use single-zero spins coming from a real wheel with a real dealer from a real casino. They must not be publicly available>>>
I don't like ths part. Its better to pick a random table from a random EU casino online and use those 100 spins. Pick a day from years ago, you can't search for a casinos results.
I am happy to go along with whatever the majority decides. I have to say that I have never trusted the results 100% from the downloadable sites like Weisbaden.
If it would not be too much trouble, the person calling out the numbers could collect 100 spins from one of these live dealer sites or will no doubt have some scorecards from visits to live B+M casinos.
There's nothing wrong with using past spins from an EU casino. Its something we can all go look at when its over. If anyone is doubting, lets do a test. Have somebody post 100 actuals from a couple years ago and see if anybody can find them by searching. If nobody can, its a safe way to go.
Quote from: suitcase charlie on June 04, 2010, 10:10:26 PM
some scorecards from visits to live B+M casinos.
Yes I would prefer that a third-party uses personal actuals from a B&M casino. No online casino or publicly available spins. Whatever you guys decide though, I'm in.
Would like to participate in this challenge. :thumbsup:
Great, welcome NewIdea.
I think we should have a cut of date for entrants. A couple of days or so would be o. k.
Yes I would prefer that a third-party uses personal actuals from a B&M casino.>>
I'm so well disliked on these forums, I don't trust ANYBODY not to screw me. I need actuals I can look up myself after its over. Whats wrong with that? The EU casinos actuals are accurate, I use them every day.
Quote from: Spike! on June 04, 2010, 10:32:53 PM
I'm so well disliked on these forums, I don't trust ANYBODY not to screw me. I need actuals I can look up myself after its over. Whats wrong with that? The EU casinos actuals are accurate, I use them every day.
Sure, whatever. Just make sure it's a real wheel with a real dealer.
Quote from: suitcase charlie on June 04, 2010, 10:29:26 PM
I think we should have a cut of date for entrants. A couple of days or so would be o. k.
Sounds good.
I am quite happy to go with the flow. So let's say a 48 hour cut off point for entrants. It gives enough time for people to see the thread.
Maybe it could become a monthly feature with an honours board, lol.
Quote from: Noble Savage on June 04, 2010, 10:18:09 PM
Yes I would prefer that a third-party uses personal actuals from a B&M casino. No online casino or publicly available spins. Whatever you guys decide though, I'm in.
Although I will not be a participant in this upcoming 100 spin challenge, I do have 103 live spins from the Lisboa Casino in Macau from November of 2007.
When I was still playing baccarat, this was several of the casino issued scoresheets for baccarat.
The table was an "Azure Corp" 8 station air ball machine.
If these numbers would be acceptable, I can email them to whomever will be doing the "dealer" chores.
Just trying to help out.
AD
If these numbers would be acceptable>>
The only numbers I'll accept are from a source that we can all check, an EU casino that posts actuals. If you wnt to use some others, have fun, I won't be playing.
Quote from: Noble Savage on June 04, 2010, 10:18:09 PM
Yes I would prefer that a third-party uses personal actuals from a B&M casino. No online casino or publicly available spins. Whatever you guys decide though, I'm in.
I have tons of old scorecards from a B&M casino, if that's the route you wish to take
BW
Quote from: ADulay on June 04, 2010, 11:40:25 PM
Although I will not be a participant in this upcoming 100 spin challenge, I do have 103 live spins from the Lisboa Casino in Macau from November of 2007.
You need 130 spins
Quote from: Noble Savage on June 04, 2010, 09:50:10 PM
- The challenge ends after 100 spins (not counting the initial 30 spins) with a score list.
Thanks Adulay and buffalowizard.
If players feel more comfortable with verifiable spins, so be it. No big deal.
Our dealer must select a random table from one of those EU casinos that publish their spins online (albeit not an online casino). Make sure it's a random day from years ago (and avoid airball tables please).
Still waiting for a volunteer. :)
Contests lik this have been done on GG and LIP in the past. Its a huge amount of work for the volunteer as he must not only post the spins, but keep track of all the bets and how everybody is doing. He is the weak link, and they often get bored and just quit in the middle. Also, 100 spins is too many. If you give out 30 right away, that leaves 70. Because we have players from all over the world, its only possible to post 1 spin per day so everybody has a chance to bet. Thats over 2 months the contest has to last, its too long.
well from what I can see, there are only three contestants at the moment.
1)Noble Savage
2)NewIdea
3)Myself
The cut off point is tomorrow, I am sure we can get through the spins quicker than one a day when everybody is on board.
Agreed. As for the dealer, any regular forum visitor would do. :)
This is merely for fun guys.
Well if everyones agree with an hour, the players and dealer could meet here for 3 hours or so, and play it quickly.
I wouldn't matter to be the dealer (To be honest, I would like to), but tomorrow I'm busy all day =/
Afonso
I am sure we can get through the spins quicker than one a day>>>
Thats because you've never done this before. I'm telling you, 100 is too many. And you need at least a week before you start, hardly anybody even knows about it yet. Usually a contest is announced weeks bfore it begins. You'll have all kinds of people wanting you to start over because they want to play too if you start it too soon. You can't just get 'anybody' to do it either. He has control, and if he isn't completely trustworthy, he'll tell one of his friends what the spins are so they'll win. Believe me, theres more to is than meets the eye.
Well I trust Afonso 100% to be the dealer.
I am happy to do it in a 3 hour session if Noble and NewIdea agree. Any time is more or less ok for me.
Spike, you are making a big deal out of it. It is more for fun than anything else and so far is just a friendly challenge between 3 people. It is not the gunfight at the ok coral. Originally, I challenged Noble Savage, on saying that I am happy for a few more to join in.
Thanks Suitcase Charlie ;D
I will get some trustful spins that you can check after playing...
Btw, don't take the results too hard, remember that 100 spins can't prove nothing! As Suitecase said it's "just a friendly challenge" :thumbsup:
Afonso
Spike, you are making a big deal out of it. It is more for fun than anything else and so far is just a friendly challenge between 3 people. >>
Cool, then do it just between you 3 then. Have fun. Bye.
Hey, I was just trying to help out the forum.
Sorry.
AD
Thank you for your offer AD,
Afonso is right, 100 spins proves nothing really. I would expect to be showing a profit after the 100 spins, I would consider that a successful challenge for me regardless if Noble Savage or NewIdea finished in front points wise.
It is all good.
No worries Adulay. Thanks. ;)
Quote from: Spike! on June 05, 2010, 07:02:45 PM
Cool, then do it just between you 3 then. Have fun. Bye.
Guys, has anyone of you seen this coming?
I HAVE! ;D
Quote from: A3on47 on June 05, 2010, 06:13:18 PM
Well if everyones agree with an hour, the players and dealer could meet here for 3 hours or so, and play it quickly.
I wouldn't matter to be the dealer (To be honest, I would like to), but tomorrow I'm busy all day =/
Afonso
Sounds great Afonso! Thanks. :biggrin:
Quote from: suitcase charlie on June 05, 2010, 07:27:05 PM
100 spins proves nothing really. I would expect to be showing a profit after the 100 spins, I would consider that a successful challenge for me
100 spins
1000 units bankroll
There isn't anything easier that showing profit with that conditions
Just use some progression start with a low unit size :P
I would like to ask to use flat bets...
Win with a progression in 100 spins is too easy ::)
Afonso
Spike is too stupid to realize that there is VLS chat. This thing could be done in real time in a couple hours. And witnessed and saved/recorded by anyone else in the chat.
Either way, nice to hear you whine about something that doesn't concern you Spike. Quit acting like a girl.
Quote from: A3on47 on June 05, 2010, 07:33:22 PM
Win with a progression in 100 spins is too easy ::)
Yes, but the winner is the one who ends with more money. If you play a very safe progression it would work against you in the sense that you would win slowly. ;)
Btw, we can do longer challenges if this one works out well.
Quote from: Davey-Jones on June 05, 2010, 07:37:31 PM
Spike is too stupid to realize that there is VLS chat. This thing could be done in real time in a couple hours. And witnessed and saved/recorded by anyone else in the chat.
Either way, nice to hear you whine about something that doesn't concern you Spike. Quit acting like a girl.
lol :sarcastic:
Guys, has anyone of you seen this coming?>>
I've done this before, you haven't. If you want just the 3 of you, do it in private. If you want a public contest, thats very complicated if you have a lot of players. Like I said, the prospect for cheating looms large because all the dealer has to do is tell one friend the next spins. Its happened before. They say "Ha ha, hee hee, wouldn't it be funny if we cheated?" They don't start out to cheat, but the friend is losing badly and he wants to show everybody how smart he is.
I'll play if its well organized. If its a going to be a cluster f***, as it often is, forget it, I don't have the time.
I am just going to flat bet on straight up numbers.
Spike is too stupid to realize that there is VLS chat.>>
Not at all, go for it. As it has obviously already turned into a douche bag contest, (thanks for clarifying that, Davey, what was I thinking) I'm out.
Have fun.
Quote from: Spike! on June 04, 2010, 10:32:53 PM
I'm so well disliked on these forums, I don't trust ANYBODY not to screw me. I need actuals I can look up myself after its over. Whats wrong with that? The EU casinos actuals are accurate, I use them every day.
Yeah Spike... EVERYONE is out to screw you. Get over yourself already!
I can understand it if you are the only on in the challenge, but you aren't. Quit being a baby. Sounds like you just have a buttload of actuals that you want to run off those 30 spins. Who says you haven't been data mining for these last few years? You say you use them everyday. Typical. It's pathetic really.
Of course you are out Spike. You have nothing to show.
Quote from: Spike! on June 05, 2010, 07:42:36 PM
Like I said, the prospect for cheating looms large because all the dealer has to do is tell one friend the next spins. Its happened before. They say "Ha ha, hee hee, wouldn't it be funny if we cheated?" They don't start out to cheat, but the friend is losing badly and he wants to show everybody how smart he is.
I'll play if its well organized. If its a going to be a cluster f***, as it often is, forget it, I don't have the time.
Do you have any reasons to don't trust me?
You're a cool guy spike, despite everything is said. Play with us, it will be a pleasure ;)
Quote from: suitcase charlie on June 05, 2010, 07:43:33 PM
I am just going to flat bet on straight up numbers.
In my way of thinking, there isn't other way of beat it :thumbsup:
My bet will be on you ! Ahah
No hard feelings Noble Savage and NewIdea. Just joking ;D
Afonso
I'll use % betting on wheel sectors. :)
You are a smart guy, Afonso!!! ;D and you are right. It's no merit to play 70 spins and be ahead with a progression.
IF anyone has a winning method then flat betting would be enough to beat roulette but a progression would let you have sooner the casino's money in your pocket.
I beat roulette playing 5 numbers (inside bets) at the most per spin. I dont play every spin. I have a smooth progression to increase my winnings.
I believe the winner of the chanllenge should be the person who has the higher percentage of hits on account of his/her stakes.
Carlos.
PD: and yes, Noble Savege, it is called very often holly grail. I prefer to say ive got the skill to produce the bet selection more probable to be awarded by the next spun number. It doesnt mean i hit every stake but enough to be above the due percentage. It can be calculated and that's most important to be a winner.
I like the way you put it Carpanta, I agree with you.
When I play in the casino, if I am winning, I sometimes increase just a little bit if I am only going to bet a few numbers. I figure if that is my bet and things are working, I can gradually wind it up a bit. On a loss, I will always revert back to the flat bet.
Will play on targeted wheel sector numbers only.( using probable ball landing zone)
Strictly no progression bets.
Quote from: Noble Savage on June 05, 2010, 08:05:51 PM
I'll use % betting on wheel sectors. :)
Interesting.
I was a little afraid of losing my time here, as I didn't know much about suitcase and newidea... and for me honest, you seem so negative sometimes that I doubted a little about your way of playing.
But now I'm sure it will be interesting, after the three different ways you three will be playing ;)
The way I play now is something like Noble and SuitCase way (of course there is 329842891631 ways of playing inside numbers and use % betting on wheel sectors)
Ball landing zone I never tried, but I always had hope in that way of playing :good:
Quote from: Carpanta on June 05, 2010, 08:10:46 PM
You are a smart guy, Afonso!!! ;D and you are right. It's no merit to play 70 spins and be ahead with a progression.
IF anyone has a winning method then flat betting would be enough to beat roulette but a progression would let you have sooner the casino's money in your pocket.
I beat roulette playing 5 numbers (inside bets) at the most per spin. I dont play every spin. I have a smooth progression to increase my winnings.
I believe the winner of the chanllenge should be the person who has the higher percentage of hits on account of his/her stakes.
First of all thanks Carpanta, and nice to meet you (haven't seen you here before, despite all your posts :S), I was kinda way from forums when you were more active ...
It would be awesome if you played too :clapping:
Well, instead of a smooth progression you can increase your winnings be flat betting... You need a bigger bankroll for use that smooth bankroll than you need for flat betting I presume.
So by flat betting you can use a bigger unit size = more winnings
I'm a big fan of flat betting ::)
Regards,
Afonso
I play mini-games. Acording to the neccesary hits to close a mini-game in plus i use more or less chips to increase my stakes with a smooth progression as i stated before. While losing i keep on with the progression but when i achieve the aimed score i go back to flat betting.
Quote from: Carpanta on June 05, 2010, 08:28:18 PM
I play mini-games. Acording to the neccesary hits to close a mini-game in plus I use more or less chips to increase my stakes with a smooth progression as I stated before. While losing I keep on with the progression but when I achieve the aimed score I go back to flat betting.
I see...
A friend of mine had a similar way of playing. I hope you have more "luck" than he had ;)
Who says you haven't been data mining for these last few years? You say you use them everyday. Typical. It's pathetic really.>>>>
Thanks again, Davey, for clarifying what I was geting into. Silly me for even thinking of getting involved.
Carry on.
Good points guys.
The challenge however is not "who can win in the long run" (that would be a looong challenge and I wouldn't take it unless it was on a live wheel where I can play VB), it simply is "who can make the most money in a random session of 130 spins" (30 spins for tracking, and 100 for playing).
I don't want the criteria for winning to be simply the hit percentage of the bet selection, but also being able to manage your money in the most optimum way to win the most in a short time.
We can organize other sessions if this one works well.
Yeah Spike, your a fraud. Silly you.
Why don't you guys play a DB wheel or something?
Quote from: Noble Savage on June 05, 2010, 08:33:12 PM
I don't want the criteria for winning to be simply the hit percentage of the bet selection, but also being able to manage your money in the most optimum way to win the most in a short time.
Good point there.
A good money management can make quite a big difference in the end results ;)
It is a fair point Noble Savage makes because time is money. If you are too conservative, then a winning method is almost wasted. There is definately a happy medium between conservatism and being too agressive.
you could argue it's called the kelly criterion, lol.
Quote from: A3on47 on June 05, 2010, 08:31:22 PM
I see...
A friend of mine had a similar way of playing. I hope you have more "luck" than he had ;)
Luck has nothing to do with beating roulette. If you must have to rely on luck then you are lost mate!!!!
Randomness has a problem and it is that it repeats itself too often. The thing is most people doesnt see it!!!
So i say it can be calculated what is about to come in the most immediate future 1 to 3 spins ahead the present one.
I know there is a debate about randomness. If there is kind of memory about past results to produce future events. I have no debate inside me. I've gone thorugh it time ago. Ive found the way to calculate quite accurately what is about to come because of past events. As i said i can miss some stakes sometimes many but in the end, i win every session i play.
I would like very much to take part in this challenge. I live in Spain and ive got 7 hours ahead from the forum time.
Cool, more competition. 8)
That's why I said "luck" :pleasantry:
Everything have a reason to happen. But it's in human nature to atributte it to luck
I can be criticized by this, but past results can and will influence future results...
I like your way of thinking Carpanta, very similar to mine
Podemos aprender mucho uno con otro ;)
I'm portuguese by the way..
Glad to see you joining :D
Welcome aboard Carpanta. I am 6 hours ahead of forum time. It is good that all four of us are here at the same time as well as our esteemed croupier Afonso. That means we should be able to agree on a suitable time.
Quote from: suitcase charlie on June 05, 2010, 08:54:15 PM
Welcome aboard Carpanta. I am 6 hours ahead of forum time. It is good that all four of us are here at the same time as well as our esteemed croupier Afonso. That means we should be able to agree on a suitable time.
I feel important now :spiteful:
Ahah
I'm 6 hours ahead too.. Where are you from suitcase charlie ?
Carpanta have a similar hour as we too.. Luck is on our side :pleasantry:
Yeah Spike, your a fraud.>>
Nope, I'm not a fraud. I'm just trying to make it a legit contest, thats all. But thanks for showing your maturity with all the name calling, I guess I expected more from a forum mod.
Btw suitecase charlie, does your girlfriend/wife knows about your nickname?
If I still remember right the story of Charlie Suitecase... :diablo:
;D
Quote from: Spike! on June 05, 2010, 09:00:44 PM
Yeah Spike, your a fraud.>>
Nope, I'm not a fraud. I'm just trying to make it a legit contest, thats all. But thanks for showing your maturity with all the name calling, I guess I expected more from a forum mod.
Enter in the contest then ;)
Quote from: A3on47 on June 05, 2010, 08:51:50 PM
Podemos aprender mucho uno con otro ;)
Eso espero :thumbsup:
My first stake is that Suitcase Charlie is from U.K. ;)
@Afonso, since I started to travel a lot more playing roulette, I thought the name was appropriate, lol.
It's a good job my laptop fits neatly in my case. My immediate goal is to win enough to buy one of those motorhomes and then combine my play and travelling throughout Europe. I can think of nothing I would rather do at this point in my life.
I just said that because Charlie suitcase is the name of a guy who was in prison by putting is girlfriend in a suitcase and kidnap her...
I see you're living my dream suitcase ;)
One day I will make my bankroll from playing online, get a friend or two, buy a motor house, and travel around the world making my little fortune playing roulette ! Or I hope so :P
Afonso
Just a minute, I will have a look, no, there is nobody in there, lol.
I may fail in my quest, but I am giving it a go. It is going to be hard work. A friend of mine did the same thing in the 80's, only difference is that he was a card counter and he had maths on his side.
I wish you the best luck ;)
Maybe we will meet one day in our trips ...
I'm not going to disclose my method but i say most important is to put an order to the wheel into
sectors, sections, positions of the numbers (only 3 positions). Then try some matrix with these parameters.
These matrix should look like:
x x x
x x x
x x x
x where goes a sector, a section, a position of the numbers, colour and low/high. Several matrix then. Every one of them a cube 3x3. Then try to create an eclipse merging cross information available in the different matrix (in plural)
Clever people will see how to use this.
Outcomes can be then calculated with this scheme catching the edge from the casino.
Interesting.. Thanks for the clue Carpanta ;)
unfortunately there are two types of luck, good and bad. So I would rather depend on myself. Having the game is one thing, putting it all together if you are attempting to do it for a living is a different entity. I reckon the smart money is on me failing. I would actually be more worried if I was 100% covinced that I could not fail. I am not going to die wondering!
You will never know if you don't try.
Prepare everything in you suitecase, get your head in the place and keep a low profile.. don't let greed take you and make your wondering a real feeling.
You will do what many just dreamed about :clapping:
Carpanta, you sound like a man after my own heart. Can I ask a question?
Does your accuracy get better the more you get into your predictions?
I ask because I have noticed that playing a similiar way to which you describe, that it appears my wins come in short and concentrated periods of spins. It can not be coincidence after so many games. This is what leads me to believe that although I can't quantify my edge in mathematical terms, I do think I have found a way to consistently win.
I'm 6 hours ahead of forum time too.
@charlie: All the best with your venture.
Papa Wallenda (a famous rope-jumper) once said: "Life is on the wire, the rest is just waiting."
Thank you Noble, I like Papa Wallenda's philosophy.
If you have prepared and lived for something for a long time, then everything else is imaterial.
You could almost say that I am in the "zone" lol.
Quote from: suitcase charlie on June 05, 2010, 09:37:29 PM
Carpanta, you sound like a man after my own heart. Can I ask a question?
Does your accuracy get better the more you get into your predictions?
I ask because I have noticed that playing a similiar way to which you describe, that it appears my wins come in short and concentrated periods of spins. It can not be coincidence after so many games. This is what leads me to believe that although I can't quantify my edge in mathematical terms, I do think I have found a way to consistently win.
My accuracy get better when i enter the loop what's the wheel actually throwing. I know how numbers relates among themselves so i know which family they belong. I follow rithms. My mind is used to detect rithms. Rithms are produced in the matrix in a random way. Randomly patterns form and i try to take adventage of them while they keep on showing. It's like music. Different rithms produce different bet selections. Change of rithms can be observed too and then a change of bet selection is required. It is kinda ambush randomn events.
Then don't be afraid.. You can lose a wonderful life if you don't try ;)
Well guys, it was a pleasure. This is getting a peaceful and nice thread with wonderful people !!
Hope everything continues like this.. See you all tomorrow :thumbsup:
Best regards,
Afonso
I'm off too, it's getting late.
The game starts after tomorrow. :)
Thank you for your answer Carpanta, I think you have spent a lot of time researching the game and delving into the nooks and crannies. I hope it continues to pay off for you.
Well, hope to see you guys tomorrow and we can arrange a time for our 100 spin challenge.
take care.
Here you go guys.
If you don't mind, you could consider this a control bet of sorts.
Attached is a text file with 100 groups of 9 numbers taken from random.org this morning.
I downloaded about 1100 numbers then removed all the repeaters for the final 100 groups of random selections.
I attached the file so it is public record.
So these are my bets for the 100 spin challenge.
Just to add a bit of spice, I'll include a Mr.j'esque 12 step progression with a spread of 1-20 units.
1-1-1-2-2-3-4-6-8-11-15-20. :)
Each spin will use the next 9 number group in the list until it either wins or runs through the 12 step progression for a loss, at which point the next group is used for the next spin, etc.
This challenge will probably only need the first 30 groups at most, but you never know...
Let's see if you guys can beat a bunch of random selections coupled with a you-beaut gambler's fallacy progression. :whistle:
Well Spike... If you aren't a fraud and want a fair challenge, I hear Laurance has 10K up for grabs for a guy with your special talents. :lol:
Lol Bombus,
It is more or less the same to say im going to bet
spin 1 all black low numbers
spin 2 all red low numbers
spin 3 all black high numbers
spin 4 all red high numbers
and so on starting again with this selection in whatever order you dispose
rondomly youll have your hits, most important you dont fall down from step 12 in the progression :)
wish you good luck
You are right on all accounts Carpanta :biggrin:
...One loss and I'm fried!
-666
So you selected a bad mate for the road = 666 ;D
Now you could say after the first hit, if it produces, no more bets. I stand by coz i dont like 666 on my back all the time. This guy weighs a lot!!!!
Who tells you cant be the winner with 1026 units?
I hear Laurance has 10K up for grabs>>
Is 10K a lot of money where you live? Just curious..
I've taken vacations that cost more. I'm just sayin...
Really? For someone as rich as you, you sure seem to get all pissy about how a play money roulette challenge is handled. The more you talk, the more stupid you sound.
I'm spike, I can beat any roulette game in my sleep, but am in way over my head when it comes to low stakes poker games with a table full of suckers. Um... But don't ask me to prove my B.S. method for free because the world hates me. Err... Don't offer me easy and free money during a global recession either because I'm busy wiping my ass with $100 bills.
You are so full of stuff. You are nothing more than a forum troll. Everyone else knows it, except for your enlarged and delluded ego.
@Bombus
Lets see you winning with some random numbers by flat betting instead of progression then
Quote from: Carpanta on June 05, 2010, 08:45:15 PMRandomness has a problem and it is that it repeats itself too often. The thing is most people doesn't see it!!!
So I say it can be calculated what is about to come in the most immediate future 1 to 3 spins ahead the present one.
I know there is a debate about randomness. If there is kind of memory about past results to produce future events. I have no debate inside me. I've gone thorugh it time ago. Ive found the way to calculate quite accurately what is about to come because of past events. As I said I can miss some stakes sometimes many but in the end, I win every session I play.
Carpanta,
You use a progression, right? Progressions tend to give misleading results sometimes. I mean, you can easily be in profit after few hundreds of thousands of bets and and thus be fooled. Eventually, all progressions fail, I believe you are aware of that. So have you done some extensive testing to support your theory?
I'm sorry if I may sound a bit harsh, but most of us are tired of the
"I beat the wheel long term but I can not tell you how" story. Thank you for giving some hints regarding matrices though.
Regards,
m
Would anyone object to Afonso putting up the first 30 spins early so we can prepare?
let me give you 30 initial spins from a reputed casino whoseresults canbe crosstallied later. Play now:
4
34
24
36
34
9
35
32
14
23
32
24
10
17
8
32
24
7
34
22
11
36
30
0
3
13
28
25
8
29
tell me who has accepted this challenge?
albalaha,
we have already agreed for Afonso to be our croupier. Thank you anyway.
:) Play 2.5.16.21.26.31 for 6 spins stop on a win.
Cheers
Jackal
For someone as rich as you>>
10K is far from rich, sorry.
Quote from: suitcase charlie on June 06, 2010, 01:51:07 PM
Would anyone object to Afonso putting up the first 30 spins early so we can prepare?
Sorry, I was way this afternoon, so I just saw that now.
For me it's ok ;)
Quote from: suitcase charlie on June 06, 2010, 03:06:00 PM
albalaha,
we have already agreed for Afonso to be our croupier. Thank you anyway.
Thanks Suitcase Charlie :thumbsup:
Just some points I want to make clear:
Bombus will you really participate? (betting on 100 groups of 9 numbers taken from random.org)
and
Carpanta, you said you could beat the wheel playing 5 numbers (inside bets) at the most per spin, don't playing every spins and using a smooth progression... What made it a very interesting challenge for other players !
But now you said you would play just like this:
"spin 1 all black low numbers
spin 2 all red low numbers
spin 3 all black high numbers
spin 4 all red high numbers
and so on starting again with this selection in whatever order you dispose
rondomly youll have your hits, most important you dont fall down from step 12 in the progression"
What was kinda disappointing for be honest =/
Afonso
Well I'm in if you like. Mostly 6 numbers straight up.
Quote from: A3on47 on June 06, 2010, 03:31:28 PM
But now you said you would play just like this:
"spin 1 all black low numbers
spin 2 all red low numbers
spin 3 all black high numbers
spin 4 all red high numbers
and so on starting again with this selection in whatever order you dispose
rondomly youll have your hits, most important you dont fall down from step 12 in the progression"
What was kinda disappointing for be honest =/
I think he was talking to Bombus when he said that.
Anyway we should agree on a time to start so we can all be online and advance quickly.
The participants are:
- Suitcase charlie
- NewIdea
- Carpanta
- Jackal
- Noble Savage
- Bombus (will you be playing?)
Afonso, get the real-wheel spins ready. :)
I suggest we start the play tomorrow at 7pm GMT, any objections?
Quote from: Jakkalsdraai on June 06, 2010, 03:35:00 PM
Well I'm in if you like. Mostly 6 numbers straight up.
It would be great :)
I've heard many good things about you :clapping:
Unfortunately, I think Bombus is here more to make jokes than to play=/
Hello guys, that would suit me fine.
So just to make sure I have that correct, that is tomorrow 1.00pm forum time, correct?
Actually it would be 2:00pm forum time. :)
ok, no problem, I am looking forward to it now. I t would be great if we all showed a profit over the 100 spins.
I'll be taking part in the challenge but I think it should be clearer the start hour. One says 1.00 pm another 2.00 pm forum time. So which one please? I believe Suitcase charlie's 7.00 pm GTM would be 1.00 pm forum time, isn't it?
Thanks.
Carlos.
Let's not use forum time, just use GMT.
The game starts tomorrow at 7pm GMT.
That is ok with me.
Quote from: mistarlupo on June 06, 2010, 08:22:19 AM
Carpanta,
You use a progression, right? Progressions tend to give misleading results sometimes. I mean, you can easily be in profit after few hundreds of thousands of bets and and thus be fooled. Eventually, all progressions fail, I believe you are aware of that. So have you done some extensive testing to support your theory?
I'm sorry if I may sound a bit harsh, but most of us are tired of the "I beat the wheel long term but I can not tell you how" story. Thank you for giving some hints regarding matrices though.
Regards,
m
You dont sound harsh at all. I understand your position. I dont want to convice anybody. If you read me properly i said i can beat roulette flat betting but i use a smooth progression to increase my wins, that's all.
Hundreds of spins testing? For which purpose? My playing method cant be programmed. I say roulette is not a game of chance but a game of skill. Im not the only one saying this.
You can disregard this statment and i cant blame you for it. I dont have to demostrate anything. For me it is much more convenient people go on thinking roulette is unbeatable.
When i finish the 100 spin challenge ill be in positive. It wont say much about long term winnings but it can be a start for some people.
Cheers,
Carlos.
Yes, if someone truly is a pro, then I imagine trying to prove it to people would be pointless and unwise.
Thinking "I'll show it to everyone on the internet but I won't show it to the casinos, they are the enemy" is quite naive. :)
The casino is not really the enemy, we are our own worst enemy at times.
The casino is a business out to make a profit. They pay out the winners and happily keep the losers money.
They will always be more losers than winners and in that respect, if you have something that wins for you at an abnormal rate, you are better keeping it to yourself. It may be that because of all the time you spent studying roulette, you have not achieved much in other areas of your life and the temptation is there to show people that you were not just spending your years meditating, but this would be a wrong move. If you have something really good, you owe it to yourself to make the most of it.
Couldn't say it better.
Wise words, Suitcase charlie. I agree with your's and Novel Savege's last remarks. Why giving away what has been so difficult to achieve? Actually i left aside too many important things due to so many hours studying, testing and practicing during last 7 years. To be honest i must say that all is not my own work. Ive taken the ideas of many bright guys that master this game and created my own method to produce a bet selection that is succesfull enough to take an edge on my side. To arrive to the bet selection most probable to win the stake when you decide to play has a lot of skill involved in it. That means you need to be concentrated to detect what's going on in your matrices, calculating secuences, frecuencies of events so its not mechanical at all requiring what most gamblers hate: work and effort to play roulette. So everybody seeking a mechanical way to beat roulette because it would be the easy way. But there is no easy way. Like a bond trader you must comprehend how the market is behaving taking into account different variants to make the most likely approach to a winning decision.
Quote from: A3on47 on June 06, 2010, 03:51:15 PM
Unfortunately, I think Bombus is here more to make jokes than to play=/
Knock, knock... :lol:
-------------------
7.00 pm GMT is like 5.00 am for me. I don't get out of bed for a fire at 5.00am.
It shouldn't matter because my numbers are already attached in a previous post along with the method of play, so I can catch you guys up without any skullduggery.
Good luck to all contestants...not that any of you need it! :)
Will try to Log In 7pm GMT. Proceed with the challenge if i did not log in on time.
Have fun, good luck and lets see who has the winning strategy-system.
:)
7 PM GMT is 00:30 in India, I will still try to participate today. Please count me in for this challenge.
Quote from: suitcase charlie on June 06, 2010, 01:51:07 PM
Would anyone object to Afonso putting up the first 30 spins early so we can prepare?
@A3on47,
Could you please make the 30 starting numbers available for those who need to analyze them?
Thank, Afonso.
Quote from: bombus on June 07, 2010, 01:00:00 AM
@A3on47,
Could you please make the 30 starting numbers available for those who need to analyze them?
Thank, Afonso.
Agree, this will give us ample time for analyzing before the game start.
Quote from: albalaha on June 07, 2010, 12:25:11 AM
7 PM GMT is 00:30 in India, I will still try to participate today. Please count me in for this challenge.
Yes, join and enjoy the challenge.
Hope to see more experience player participating.
Good luck to all of you ! :thumbsup:
13
25
0
32
19
3
27
28
19
34
18
23
22
30
8
12
11
36
26
15
23
1
25
3
2
24
12
2
32
7
so 7 is the 30th number. Am I right?
Yes.
First number --> 13
30th number --> 7
Rather late than never ...playing mostly even chances.
:angel:
Regards
Max
(Jakkalsdraai is it 21h00 our time when the challenge start?)
That's right max
21:00 our time.
My bet selection for the first bet is as follows.
Bet 17,34,25,7,12,28 for the first 3 spins
and bet 22,35,32,4,25,6 for the last 3 spins.
You are going to give numbers in sets of 6 right?
Stop on a win.
Cheers
Jackal
Bet for One spin only.
Bet selection:
0-1-8-10-11-13-16-17-19-25-26-28-34-35-12-15-18-24-27
Total 19 single # bet @5 chips ( 95 chips)
Quote from: Jakkalsdraai on June 07, 2010, 10:58:02 AM
You are going to give numbers in sets of 6 right?
Some people play spin by spins, so I think it have to be in sets of just one spin =/
Quote from: A3on47 on June 07, 2010, 11:20:51 AM
Some people play spin by spins, so I think it have to be in sets of just one spin =/
You can publish your results in set of 6 if others agree. I will place my bets after the 6th game.
thank you Afonso for putting up the first 30 spins.
Yes, I think we should go from spin to spin. I can't give any predictions further than the next spin.
Spin by spin for me too. :)
Will place my first bet when the game officially starts. Let's see who the best is! :biggrin:
No problem guys. 100 spins (70 left) is not really a large enough game though. 200 would be better :)
I don't mind if you post it spin by spin.
Hi Jackal
I will play only one spin at a time and decide to bet or not.
Hope for the best ;D
Regards
Max
Even though we are playing only 100 spins, I am just going to play my natural game, if that means just betting on 25 of the spins, then so be it. I have no bet for the first spin but will definately have one for the second, lol.
One more question, are we going to do it in the chat? It would be much quicker.
I vote for chat too..
It will be much easier for me if we go all for chat at same hour and play straight and quickly, spin by spin :)
Yes chat would be quicker. Here you'd have to keep refreshing the page to see new posts.
Unfortunately I just received some bad news... :-\
I think I will not be able to be online tonight...
So if it's ok with everyone we will do this tomorrow ... (I've all tomorrow day able to play)
Sorry guys :'(
not to worry Afonso, it can't be helped mate.
I hope things will be ok for tomorrow and that all of us can take part.
No worries Afonso. :)
Tomorrow then, same time.
Now what is this, afonso, why don't you handover it to someone else? If all participants are ready now I can provide spins that can be verified, let's play it now
AFONSO,
I can very much see that u are present at the time of challeng. Carpanta has also noticed that. Please come to chat and explain. I have already sent a PM to you.
The challenge is tomorrow @ 7:00 pm GMT.
tomorrow 7.00 pm GMT. It suits me :thumbsup:. Just another day to have the bankroll with no loses, goooooddd ;D
nobody wants a challenge now and avoiding it. AFonso is present but hiding.
albalaha,
I thought you didn't believe in whining. :)
The challenge is tomorrow @ 7pm GMT.
See you then.
Quote from: albalaha on June 07, 2010, 03:45:22 PM
nobody wants a challenge now and avoiding it. AFonso is present but hiding.
I leave my pc on all day long. It's normal I'm online almost 24/7.
I'm here from time to time, but I want a 100 spins session completed in a day, with no cuts or delays on it, and as I'm at a hospital at moment, I can't be a "croupier" as the guys who want to play deserve.
So as I already say, I'm very sorry for this, and tomorrow at 7gmt I can be here all time and give 100% to what I was stipulate to be.
I'm really really sorry, but an unexpected accident occur, and I will ask for you albalha respect it.
Thanks for everyone that understood it. You have been very understandable :blush2:
Regards,
Afonso
There is no need for you to apologize Afonso, we hope everything is ok and look forward to seeing you tomorrow.
Take care.
The only thing I'm betting on is this cluster **** won't last a week. You're already seeing how difficult it is, just wait. You ain't seen nothin yet. :lol: The only way to learn is by doing.
The problem is always the same. The person running it has to be toatlly dedicated to it, and they usually realize very early on thats its time consuming and boring and a lot of work. They also don't get to play and what fun is that. Mistakes are usually made and everybody gets mad and it doesn't end well. But I'm sure this time will be different.
Many of us are used to your bullshit Spike and can predict you with high accuracy.
I knew that you were going to act as if you were going to participate in the challenge, and then find some excuse to say "I'm out", make it look as if you weren't chickening out (fearing that people will see that you got no edge), but instead quitting because it's our (the organizers) fault.
Good for you, now take your useless posts to some other thread, or start another boring smartass thread of yours. :thumbsup:
This thread is locked until the actual challenge begins tomorrow.
Quote from: Spike! on June 07, 2010, 06:25:08 PM
The only thing I'm betting on is this cluster **** won't last a week. You're already seeing how difficult it is, just wait. You ain't seen nothin yet. :lol: The only way to learn is by doing.
The problem is always the same. The person running it has to be toatlly dedicated to it, and they usually realize very early on thats its time consuming and boring and a lot of work. They also don't get to play and what fun is that. Mistakes are usually made and everybody gets mad and it doesn't end well. But I'm sure this time will be different.
Then stay here for see.
Even if it's time consuming and I can't play, I'm confident that I will learn with this experience and by seeing such great members playing :)
We know that you want to participate to Spike.
Come on :clapping:
Afonso
Thread unlocked. The challenge starts in 6 hours.
Our contestants so far are:
- Suitcase charlie
- NewIdea
- Carpanta
- Jackal
- albalaha
- Noble Savage
Anyone else?
I would like to ask to contestants to be present and give the confirmation if they are able to participate at 19gmt, 15 minutes before the challenge start, so we can prepare everything and know for who should we wait :)
Afonso
I will participate for sure, my train journey postponed for 1 day. I did not know about the accident and already apologized for that. Can it be little earlier? Count me in.
Nice albalaha :victory:
There is no problem. We had everything planned, and suddenly I said I couldn't do it... It's boring for you guys, I understand and I already gave my apologizes ...
Now everything is solved and we will have our "contest" today :yahoo:
About the hours, the only way it can start early is if all contestants come here early and agree with that.
I hope everything goes well, as I will do for that
:to_keep_order:
:thumbsup:
Best regards,
Afonso
It's about time.
You guys around?
NewIdea will not participate...
The other guys pls post here.
Our contestants are:
- Suitcase charlie
- Carpanta
- Jackal
- albalaha
- Noble Savage
Let us know if you're here. Game starts in 10 minutes. :)
- Suitcase charlie --> Confirmed (if he comes from dinner at time)
- Carpanta
- Jackal --> Confirmed
- albalaha --> Confirmed
- Noble Savage --> Confirmed
- Max --> Confirmed
All contesters to chat please :)
what time is the start?
6 minutes :)
Players:
- Suitcase charlie
- Carpanta
- Jackal
- albalaha
- Noble Savage
- Max
First 30 spins:
13
25
0
32
19
3
27
28
19
34
18
23
22
30
8
12
11
36
26
15
23
1
25
3
2
24
12
2
32
7
Lets the challenge begin ! :thumbsup:
Players, place your bets
place 1 unit each on 26, 35,28,29,22,31,20,33 and 24
$50 on high
BR $1000
$2 per number, bet 10,6,5,7.30 for first spin
Cheers
good luck to all
4 chips on each number 4 and 21
no bet on the first spin.
Bet: 33,1,20,14,31,9,22,18,29,7,28,12,35,3,26,0,32,15
11 units on each number
Total: 198 on 18 numbers
Next spin: 10
$62 profit
bet 6,5,7.30
16 1 18 12 4 chips on each
bankroll 992
High - $50 one spin
BR $950
1 unit each on 23,27,30,36,1,5,14,16 and 34
BR after placing bets= 982
Bankroll: 802
Bet: 20,14,31,9,22,18,29,7,28,12,35,3,26,0,32,15,19,4
9 units on each number.
Total: 162 on 18 numbers.
Next spin: 7
bet 6,5,30
126 profit
Bankroll: 964
Bet: 30,8,23,10,5,24,16,33,1,20,14,31,9,22,18,29,7,28
11 units on each number.
Total: 198 on 18 numbers.
$50 - High
BR $900
14 9 7 12 4 chips on each
bet 1 unit each on 26,28,29,35,22,31,32,19,20
BR after this bet= 973
Next spin: 12
120 profit
bet 2.21.4.6,5,30
Bankroll: 766
Bet: 15,19,4,21,2,25,17,34,6,27,13,36,11,30,8,23,10,5
9 units on each number.
Total: 162 on 18 numbers.
10 26 8 35 4 chips on each
1104 chips
2 unit each on 35,26,32,19,21,28,29,22,31
BR after placing this bet=955
$50-low one spin
BR $850
Next spin: 9
108 profit
bet 6,15,32,19,
7, 12, 14, 9 4 chips on each
1088 chips
$50-low one spin
BR $900
Bankroll: 604
Bet: 10,5,24,16,33,1,20,14,31,9,22,18,29,7,28,12,35,3
7 units on each number.
Total: 126 on 18 numbers.
3 units each on 24, 33, 20, 31, 10, 22, 29, 28 , 35
BR=928
Next spin: 13
100 profit
bet 7.12.28.6
6,13,8,10 4 chips each
1072 chips
$50-low one spin
BR $950
three units each on 27, 36, 34,25, 21,19,30,23,5
BR after this bet=901
Bankroll: 478
Bet: 33,1,20,14,31,9,22,18,29,7,28,12,35,3,26,0,32,15
5 units on each number.
Total: 90 on 18 numbers.
Next spin: 26
92 profit
bet 2.21.4.10.23.8
$50-High one spin
BR 900
26,35,22,29 4 chips on each
1056 chips
put four unit each on 0,2,3,4,15,12,7,18,9
Br after this bet=865
Bankroll: 568
Bet: 16,24,5,10,23,8,30,11,36,13,27,6,34,17,25,2,21,4
6 units on each number.
Total: 108 on 18 numbers.
Next spin: 4
Bankroll: 676
Bet: 11,30,8,23,10,5,24,16,33,1,20,14,31,9,22,18,29,7
8 units on each number.
Total: 144 on 18 numbers.
160 profit
bet 7,28,12,,5,16
win of 144 units
BR=1009
no bets this time
$100 - low on spin
BR $850
33, 20, 6 chips on each
36,30, 4 chips on each
1040 chips am i right?
Next spin: 14
BR=1142
Bet 7.12.28.17.5.16
25,34,36,30 6 chips on each
1020 chips
1 unit each on 1,9,14,16,18,20,22,31,33
BR after placing this bet =1000
Bankroll: 676
Bet: 9,22,18,29,7,28,12,35,3,26,0,32,15,19,4,21,2,25,17,34
8 units on each number.
Total: 160 on 20 numbers.
$50-low one spin
$5 -0
BR $950
Next spin: 23
BR=1142 + 24 (right?) = 1166
Bet 30,15,14,31
16,9,12 6 chips on each
998 chips
2 unit each on 3,12,7,18,26,28,29,22,35
BR after placing this bet=982
$50-low one spin
$5 -0
BR $895
Bankroll: 976
Bet: 6,27,13,36,11,30,8,32,10,5,24,16,33,1,20,14,31,9,22,18
10 units on each number.
Total: 200 on 20 numbers.
Next spin: 18
_________________________________________
40th spins so far
10 spins played
Results:
Noble --> 1108
Carpanta --> 978
Jakkal --> 1194 :queen:
Max --> 940
Albalaha --> 1054
Suitcase Charlie --> 990
Good luck to all
Alfons can keep my score I'm toooooo ......... occupied (Bells)
Bet 6.20.33.35.15.30
I'm coming after you Jakk. :diablo:
:P
I won 72 unit great.............
1 unit each on 3,12,7,18,26,28,29,22,35
BR after placing this bet=1045
32,21 8 chips on each
27, 36 6 chips on each
978 chips
$50-high one spin
$5 -0
BR $940
Bankroll: 976
Bet: 35,3,26,0,32,15,19,4,21,2,25,17,34,6,27,13,36,11,30,8
12 units on each number.
Total: 240 on 20 numbers.
Next spin: 23
21,11,1,28 8 chips on each
950 chips
Alfons can keep my score I'm toooooo ......... occupied (Bells)
Bet 21,6,35,32,17,11
2 unit each on 5,8,10,11,16,23,24,30,36
BR after this bet=1027
$ 50 low - one spin
$5 -0
BR $985
Bankroll: 936
Bet: 0,32,15,19,4,21,2,25,17,34,6,27,13,36,11,30,8,23,10,5
9 units on each number.
Total: 180 on 20 numbers.
Next spin: 18
Bet 2.21.4.10.23.8
place 3 units each on 9,14,18,7,12,22,28,29,31
BR after bets = 1000
15,17,27,23 8 chips on each
918 chips
Bankroll: 756
Bet: 26,0,32,15,19,4,21,2,25,17,34,6,27,13,36,11,30,8,23,10
8 units on each number.
Total: 160 on 20 numbers.
$50 -low one spin
$5 -corner 0,1,2,3
BR $1030
Next spin: 29
bet 7,12,28,24,5,16
I won 108 unit this time :dance1:
my bankroll is now 1108.....................
I am at +108 units
rest time. no bets this time
$50 -low one spin
$5 - corner 0,1,2,3
BR $975
:give_rose:
Bankroll: 596
Bet: 13,36,11,30,8,23,10,5,24,16,33,1,20,14,31,9,22,18,29,7
6 units on each number.
Total: 120 on 20 numbers.
2,10,13 19 10 chips on each
886 chips
Next spin: 10
$50 -high one spin
$5 - corner 0,1,2,3
$5 - 10
BR $1020
26, 28,22,29 4 chips on each
+320
1216 chips
Bankroll: 716
Bet: 14,31,9,22,18,29,7,28,12,35,3,26,0,32,15,19,4,21,2,25
7 units on each number.
Total: 140 on 20 numbers.
2 units each on 5,8,10,11,16,23,24,30,33
BR after this bet= 1090
7.12.28
Next spin: 4
22.29.8.10 bet 3 units per number
2 units each on 0,2,4,15,17,19,21,25,32
BR= 1072
Bankroll: 856
Bet: 20,14,31,9,22,18,29,7,28,12,35,3,26,0,32,15,19,4,21,2
9 units on each number.
Total: 180 on 20 numbers.
$50 -low one spin
$5 - corner 0,1,2,3
$5 - 4
BR $960
7,28,4,21 4 chips on each
1190 chips
Next spin: 30
22.29.8.10 bet 3 units per number
3 units each on5, 8,10,11,13,23,27,30,36
Remaining BR=1045
32,19,25,34 4 chips on each
1176 chips
$50 -low one spin
$5 - 0
$5 - 30
BR $900
Bankroll: 676 :sarcastic:
Bet: 1,20,14,31,9,22,18,29,7,28,12,35,3,26,0,32,15,19,4,21
7 units on each number.
Total: 140 on 20 numbers.
Next spin: 36
22.29.8.10 bet 3 units per number
I won 108 units again
MY BR= 1153 :ok:
no bets this time
$100 -low one spin
$5 - 0
$5 - 36
BR $840
32,19,25,34 4 chips on each
1160 chips
Bankroll: 536
Bet: 1,33,16,24,5,10,23,8,30,11,36,13,27,6,34,17,25,2,21,4
5 units on each number.
Total: 100 on 20 numbers.
Next spin: 3
2.4.21.10.8.23
5 on each
place 2 units each on 0,3,7,12,15,26,28,32,35
BR after bets=1135
$50 high one spin
$5 - 0\3-split
$5 - 3
BR $930
4,6,8,11 4 chips on each
1144 chips
Bankroll: 436
Bet: 15,32,0,26,3,35,12,28,7,29,18,22,9,31,14,20,1,33,16,24
4 units on each number.
Total: 80 on 20 numbers.
Next spin: 2
$50 high one spin
$5 - 0\2
$5 - 2
BR $865
18,21 @2 per number
21,27 6 chips each
23,10 4 chips each
1126 chips
3 units each on 2,4,6,15,17,19,21,25,34
BR after this bet=1108
Bankroll: 356 ;D
Bet: 25,2,21,4,19,15,32,0,26,3,35,12,28,7,29,18,22,9,31,14
4 units on each number.
Total: 80 on 20 numbers.
Next bet: 30
18,21 @2 per number
21,17,11,23 6 chips on each
1106 chips
4 each on 5,8,10,11,13,23,27,30,36
and 10units on 13-24(second dozen)
Remaining bankroll=1062
$50 high one spin
$5 - corner 0,1,2,3
$5 - 30
BR $905
Bankroll: 276
Bet: 21,2,25,17,34,6,27,13,36,11,30,8,23,10,5,24,16,33,1,20
3 units on each number.
Total: 60 on 20 numbers.
Next spin: 2
_________________________________________
50th spins so far
20 spins played
Results:
Noble --> 204 :suicide:
Carpanta --> 1082
Jakkal --> 1246 :queen:
Max --> 940
Albalaha --> 1062
Suitcase Charlie --> 990
A3on47 (betting opposite of Noble) --> $$$$$$$$$$ :neo: :neo: :neo:
Good luck to you all
Continue tomorrow same time
Jack and carpanta,
You did well because you played with strategy.
Maybe I might not be with you tomorrow because it is more than 2:45 AM here. Doesn't suit me.
All the best.
You did very well too albalaha !
Noble, is playing blind, so he can't do much
Max, is testing a new system, and it have been able to get some nice results, and I think it can come back to profit in no time :thumbsup:
And the other 3 that are playing with strategie (Jakkal, Carpanta and Albalaha) are all winning !!
So we are getting good results here ;D
Regards,
Afonso
Nice going guys...
I count 21 spins played, not 20. Am I right?
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Here are the random selection results so far...
---1
32
24
31
22
12
7 win on spin 2= +18
11
2
4
---2
36
12 win on spin 3= +45
16
1
8
14
28
0
25
---3
14
23
29
20
34
26 win on spin 6= +54
22
36
10
---4
1
4 win on spin 7= +72
20
5
26
31
11
3
15
---5
19
9
36
11
32
34
10 win on spin 14= +90
30
17
---6
27
36 win on spin 17= +99
14
11
15
28
25
10
28
---7
18
21
2 win on spin 19= +117
33
9
36
31
24
29
---8
spin 20-21 no win yet = +99 / Bankroll = 1099 :declare:
27
10
35
20
31
29
33
26
4
Dear moderators, afonso (our very own dealer) and fellow players,
Yesterday we played till 2:45 am here in India. It doesn't suit me. If all of you want me to play today also, kindly accomodate and start it two hours earlier at 5PM GMT. Second request is to make it faster, take help of another experienced player maybe bombus upon whom everybody can trust, play in chat and copy paste it to the thread alongwith results. Two person can do it together, one announce results and one keep pasting all to the thread to keep records. If everyody have or can create a gmail(googlemail) account, we can use their chat server since ours is very much disturbed. We can gather their 15 minutes prior to our session after chatting on our forum and placing our gmail ids and adding all. This will help us keep in touch in future also.
Yeah mate I know what you mean. That is reaaaaallll late! And I complained about 11pm lol
Anyhow. 5pm is ok with me. I might be a bit late but you can continue without me. I will just join in when I'm off from work. Np. ;)
Cheers
Jackal
I hereby invite all of you to come for challenge at 5 pm. I have sent pm to each one.
Dear croupier and contestants
Due to some unforeseen circumstances and responsibilities that i have to take care of i will not be able to continue with the 100 spin challenge.
:'(
Thanks for the first few spins it was lot of fun....
May the best player win.
Regards
MAX
;) Well Max I'm sure that we won't be able to do more than say another 20-30 spins. So just join in later tonight or maybe tomorrow.
I will most probably miss a couple of spins as well.
No harm.
Cheers bro
Jakk
Hi Afonso and contestants,
Are we to continue the game or is it finish? Ive been leaving things aside just to be here on time and play.
Thanks in advance for replies,
Carlos.
If it's ok for other contestants I would leave this challenge for this weekend..
We can finish it on sat**day and sunday, we just have to say a time to everyone be here ;)
Regards,
Afonso
Sounds good. :)
Back again.. :)
Regards
Max
I think sunday noon would be best suited to all or even sat**day noon if all of us can gather. keep it in day time and finish it same day; what's say? :ok:
I might or might not be available on Sat**day. Sunday sounds good though. :)
I'm sure glad to see I was wrong about everything going smoothly. What do I know.. :haha:
It's going smoother than your challenge. ;D
It is? Mine hasn't started yet. Is yours even still active? It was pretty exciting for the 20 seconds it lasted, did you win? :swoon:
Spike,
Stop leg pulling and please maintain a cordial environment. we are neither enemies nor competitors.
Is there any plan to continue the challenge any further today Noble?