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Title: Is this spin for real?
Post by: patricius on March 04, 2012, 07:15:06 PM
Hi there

I play a lot on Live Dealer Casinos. In some I record sessions while playing and In some of them "behaviours" appear.

Since I´m  not  a Pro and stats aren´t my strenght, can someone evaluate this spin that landed on zero?

nolinks://nolinks.youtube.com/watch?v=g4jFh0u1r9k

Regards.

Title: Re: Is this spin for real?
Post by: Steve on March 04, 2012, 07:22:30 PM
Ive seen a lot of weird spins, and that is not a normal weird spin. What casino is this?
Title: Re: Is this spin for real?
Post by: patricius on March 04, 2012, 07:33:44 PM
Can´t remember but it´s an Evolution Live Casino Game.

The backstage is the same as today picture.

Regards.
Title: Re: Is this spin for real?
Post by: patricius on March 04, 2012, 08:20:40 PM
Just to correct. The backstage is not exactly as one year ago.

One year ago ( or older ) examples of the backstage in youtube:

nolinks://nolinks.youtube.com/watch?v=GMwLBxP3xqs

nolinks://nolinks.youtube.com/watch?v=ngPAHkrxLJY

nolinks://nolinks.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFOAj5Hb3WA&feature=related

nolinks://nolinks.youtube.com/watch?v=viKcX3AhBt0&feature=related

Regards

Title: Re: Is this spin for real?
Post by: iggiv on March 04, 2012, 09:20:08 PM
wow...that was really weird...like a spring sitting inside the pocket
Title: Re: Is this spin for real?
Post by: loungeplayer on March 05, 2012, 12:26:11 AM
cough cough... that was really weird.  I play on Evolution Gaming almost daily and that was weird, really...

they use Cammegh wheels and some of the live casinos that use Evolution Gaming's video feeds are listed here:

nolinks://nolinks.evolutiongaming.com/en/about_us/customers/
Title: Re: Is this spin for real?
Post by: xman1970 on March 05, 2012, 07:44:34 AM
I have to be honest I have only looked at the 1st video but obviously there is something wrong......

It look like the "original" footage has been tampered with for the youtube video......

Smoke n mirrors...... :girl_wacko: :girl_wacko: :girl_wacko:
Title: Re: Is this spin for real?
Post by: patricius on March 05, 2012, 09:02:12 AM
Hi there

Tampered?!

It has the original voice and even can ear the ball drop in several pockets:

nolinks://nolinks.youtube.com/watch?v=UE3yTyeWxu4

Each one take is own conclusions.
Title: Re: Is this spin for real?
Post by: xman1970 on March 05, 2012, 09:06:08 AM
Quote from: patricius on March 05, 2012, 09:02:12 AM
Each one take is own conclusions.

Exactly  :good:
Title: Re: Is this spin for real?
Post by: Steve on March 05, 2012, 06:21:59 PM
With the sound, no I dont think that is the result of magnets. Sure it's a freaky spin, more so than the average one, but not magnets. Especially the ivorine balls can be very bouncy and unpredictable. Looks pretty white for ivorine ball though but cant see it well enough.
Title: Re: Is this spin for real?
Post by: bombus on March 05, 2012, 09:21:36 PM
True story... I saw a similar spin once where the ball skipped about in obtuse and reflex angles just like in this video, then it  jumped high above the wheel and came down to land dead smack in the empty ball storage hollow at the top of the turret! No bull! Everyone was oohing and aahing for a few minutes. They called over the whole pit crew to check it out. Of course it was a no spin, but what are the odds of that!  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Is this spin for real?
Post by: patricius on March 05, 2012, 11:30:00 PM
This is the best quality footage possible ( in youtube ).

nolinks://nolinks.youtube.com/watch?v=0jsVWRzlW0k


As said before each one take is own conclusions.

Just glad to know that, to some extent, someone has seen same unusual ball behavior.


Title: Re: Is this spin for real?
Post by: patricius on October 10, 2012, 04:45:23 AM
Another weird spin I found on youtube:

Online Casino Live Roulette Tables are Rigged! / Kasyno na żywo, oszustwo ruletka (nolinks://nolinks.youtube.com/watch?v=SXOXNDdrGdM#)

( saving the small film and seeing in slow motion is better ).
Title: Re: Is this spin for real?
Post by: bombus on October 10, 2012, 05:07:09 AM

Ball hits the deflector at 1 o'clock, bounces up to the ball track, ricochets off the ball track back to the number ring, ricochets off a fret back to the zero section then drops in the green pocket; A very normal spin.
Title: Re: Is this spin for real?
Post by: patricius on October 10, 2012, 06:31:23 AM
zero in converted (nolinks://nolinks.youtube.com/watch?v=eO8rnLtI27Q#ws)
Title: Re: Is this spin for real?
Post by: ReDsQuaD on October 10, 2012, 09:29:25 AM
Yep agreed with bombus. That's the Ivorine ball for you.
Title: Re: Is this spin for real?
Post by: TwoCatSam on October 10, 2012, 12:33:19 PM
Referring to post 14

The ball moves in the same direction as the wheel.  That means the ball must suddenly travel a bit faster than the wheel to catch the 0 pocket.  Had it went backward to the wheel, it would seem logical.  This does not seem logical. 

Look at it closely and you'll see what I mean.  But how could you ever prove it?  Or duplicate it.

As to the ball landing atop the pedestal, that's freaky. 

Sam

EDIT:  It moved two pockets to get to zero. 
Title: Re: Is this spin for real?
Post by: patricius on October 10, 2012, 08:28:17 PM
Thanks for the comments received.

I myself will stop using online casinos with "studio dealers".

Will only play B & M or with online live dealers in a real casino, with real players there also playing, at most.

If this games are fair there are easy ways to assure that without any doubt ( total players at the table and bets wagered, total bets wagered by sector/numbers, testing the integrity of the ball, etc. ).
Title: Re: Is this spin for real?
Post by: patricius on November 15, 2012, 07:34:48 PM
I found this new on  the internet and was amazed with it:

nolinks://nolinks.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2162190/What-odds-Roulette-wheel-hits-SEVEN-straight-19s.html (nolinks://nolinks.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2162190/What-odds-Roulette-wheel-hits-SEVEN-straight-19s.html)

It´s at very difficult to believe in it. But the picture is there and also the name of the casino.

People thought it was rigged, very hard to think otherwise.

Title: Re: Is this spin for real?
Post by: Azim on January 02, 2013, 04:58:52 PM
I played with a live dealer on one of the casinos.  Made some money. Never withdrew the money in an anticipation of playing again. However, went back and started playing again.
When ever I play online for real money, I have my own written software that captures images. I lost my winnings plus my bankroll. within 5 sessions of playing.
I couldn't beleive the situation.
I looked at the images from my winning sessions and my losing sessions. Found out that my losing sessions ought to have been prerecorded.
It is hard to prove, but ever since I have decided not to gamble online with real money.

Just my observation.
Title: Re: Is this spin for real?
Post by: ReDsQuaD on January 03, 2013, 02:02:02 PM
The same cause and affect seem to have been repeating itself.

This is clear proof that roulette is not a random game. But of course some people will never change their minds due to ignorance and ego.