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Main => Money Management => Topic started by: shoust on September 18, 2008, 05:43:43 PM

Title: Progression system + 5/6 seperate banks
Post by: shoust on September 18, 2008, 05:43:43 PM
I'm planning to use a system next week at betvoyager's no house edge roulettes, planning to win 0.1€ each successful progression,using TurboGenius's 4 spin sequence system shown here (nolinks://nolinks.freewebs.com/turbogenius/4spinsequencesystem.htm) .(using 60 pre-generated numbers using their randomness control feature)

However, instead of using one bank for this. I plan to use 5(or 6) seperate banks of 10€/8€ for this.

As these will be different roulettes (planning to use the 3 different no house edge roulettes for this,then possibly 3 of the same after).

Surely if one loses doesn't mean all the other loses(considering a loss is a total loss of €8,10), unless the numbers that appear are the same, which very likely it won't.

What do you think?
Title: Re: Progression system + 5/6 seperate banks
Post by: Boo_Ray on September 18, 2008, 06:14:37 PM
how do you mean no house edge roulettes?
Title: Re: Progression system + 5/6 seperate banks
Post by: shoust on September 18, 2008, 08:04:56 PM
betvoyager offer the traditional casino games, plus they offer a variant with no house edge.

So they offer european roulette with no house edge on most bets(except they have house edge on street bets and corner bets, i think splits too fall into their house edge), same with american roulette, and they have no zero roulette, which has no house edge at all. Plus you can generate a set of random numbers to appear so you know the numbers you are getting don't depend on your bet(of course you still won't know the numbers hehe).
Title: Re: Progression system + 5/6 seperate banks
Post by: Boo_Ray on September 19, 2008, 02:31:38 AM
At those casinos no house edge roulettes are RNGs, It looks like there is no house edge but actualy house edge is bigger then LIVE wheel with 0 or 00.. RNGs are like slots, try to keep away :)
Title: Re: Progression system + 5/6 seperate banks
Post by: Talesman on September 23, 2008, 04:01:54 AM

No House Edge???

Tell us the payoff for a single number, a street, a DS and a quad.






Title: Re: Progression system + 5/6 seperate banks
Post by: Boo_Ray on September 23, 2008, 05:00:30 AM
Quote from: Talesman on September 23, 2008, 04:01:54 AM

No House Edge???

Tell us the payoff for a single number, a street, a DS and a quad.







payof is without house advantage, so if you cover table you will get your money back..
But it is RNG
Title: Re: Progression system + 5/6 seperate banks
Post by: Talesman on September 23, 2008, 01:02:32 PM

That is not an answer to the question.

Let's start again.

If I place a unit on the #20, what does it pay when it hits?

If I place a unit on a street, what does it pay when it hits?

Etc.

Title: Re: Progression system + 5/6 seperate banks
Post by: shoust on September 23, 2008, 03:46:12 PM
In the European Roulette and American roulette versions without house edge(there is some house edge on certain bets though).

European roulette without house edge

Single number: 36:1 (instead of 35:1, true return).
Split: 17:1
Street(includes 0,1,2 and 0,2,3): 11:1
Corner(includes 0,1,2,3 bet): 8:1
Double Street: 5:1
Dozen 2:1 (however if zero appears, all bets on this are returned to you)
Column 2:1 (however if zero appears, all bets on this are returned to you)
Even chances 1:1 (however if zero appears, all bets on this are returned to you)

The actual house edge applies if you are not betting on the outside bets(house edge applies on splits, streets, corners and double streets).

American roulette without house edge

Same as above, but the return for a single number is 37:1, which is also true return.

No Zero roulette

No zero, so you are paid the true return on all bets.




Title: Re: Progression system + 5/6 seperate banks
Post by: Talesman on September 23, 2008, 08:59:42 PM

I see a Brit flag flying so I will ASSUME someone speaks ENGLISH!!!

What is the PAYOFF for a one unit bet on a single number???????????


Title: Re: Progression system + 5/6 seperate banks
Post by: shoust on September 23, 2008, 09:05:07 PM
The payoff for a single number in traditional roulette is 35 to 1 , meaning 36 units back including the 1 unit stake.
The payoff for no zero roulette on a single number is 35 to 1 still.

EDIT: Actually, maybe this link might help.

nolinkss://nolinks.betvoyager.com/games/roulette/rules/ (nolinkss://nolinks.betvoyager.com/games/roulette/rules/)

The bottom of the page explains the no house edge versions of american/european roulette and no-zero roulette , and their payoffs throughout the page.
Title: Re: Progression system + 5/6 seperate banks
Post by: Talesman on September 23, 2008, 11:08:09 PM

It's like pulling teeth to get a simple answer.

The answer is (from their page):
"A bet on a number (straight up) pays out 36:1"

That's all I really was asking.