Finding a positive tram and jumping on..............

[TwoCatSam]

All........

While topic starters have the ability to delete any post they don't like, I will not do so.  Spike can rag on me all he likes, call me all sorts of names like shill and scammer and his post will stay.  If he--or anyone else---claims I deleted their post they are not shooting square with you.

I am going to write a little about positive and negative trams.  I first heard this expression from Victor about 2006 or 2007, long before this forum existed.  He was ridiculed and portrayed as the village idiot by more than a few.  I thought he was ahead of his time but actually he was behind by about thirty years.  I've recently found a book that old which speaks of the same phenomenon.

Please examine the following graph.  The ----tram means a very negative tram.  See the red line going down?
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Now notice the circled part.  This--again--is what I call "stasis".  Look it up; it's a real word.  It's like the bot can't get any traction and if it does, it soon loses it.  Now look to the "A" I marked.  This is where the positive tram really begins.  (Look at about the 940 Euro point where the graph goes up.  I do not consider this the start of a positive tram as it has not gone back into positive territory.)  The question is this:  Can a person identify where this beginning will occur in time to bet on it.  The answer is yes.

After a large draw down--and it makes no difference if you are starting or have gone up significantly--you will reach a point where the graph begins to be drawn in very short lines.  Very short ups and very short downs.  Look at the "A" beginning again and you will notice this.  What is happening?  The program is winning and losing almost at a 60/40 or maybe a 55/45 rate with the up side winning.  It gradually begins to crawl upwards.  Rarely--very rarely--after the big draw down and then stasis and then the upward swing will you go down from point "A" any significant amount.  You may drop some, but it will climb back.

This is numbers doing what numbers do.  The bot does not do it; the numbers do it and you could do it by hand.  You could also throw out all your calculators and balance your checkbook with a #2 pencil and gray matter.  Who would want to?  And who would expect the local merchant to give away the calculator?

Tiago2 has programmed into the latest version of the bot the most important feature since my idea for a pause.  Basically is says this:  OK, don't do anything until you win ________.  When you win _________ decide how much of those winnings you are willing to lose.  Plug in that figure.  Like this:  "I want to win 20 Eruo and when I hit that point, I want to lose no more than 5 of that total."  If you drop 5, it will shut off.  If you don't, it will just keep winning.

Suppose you came back and found you had won 50 Euro.  You could then pause the bot, increase your bet amount, increase your desired win and increase your trailing loss amount.  Again, the bot would just climb or stop when you hit the limit downward.

This is taking advantage of positive trams.  As I said, it can be done by hand on paper if you so desire.

Looking back, as I was playing the G.U.T. I saw positive and negative trams.  Days I couldn't miss!  Days I couldn't buy a win.  winkel said that would happen.  I shall return to the G.U.T. and apply what the bot has taught me about trams.  I can also see Mr Chips was actually talking about trams when he said you had to know when to quit.

What's even more beautiful about this?  Well, it applies to Blackjack, baccarat, and the even-money positions at craps.  And you don't need pen and paper.  You can do it with dollar chips.  With this little idea, you can turn the "field" in craps into a winner even though crappers swear it's a losing bet.

What bet isn't a losing bet?

TwoCatSam

[Spike]

I saw positive and negative trams.  Days I couldn't miss!  Days I couldn't buy a win.>>>

You're playing a fixed system that doesn't flow with the random, so the random has to flow around it. It goes up and down like a roller coaster and sometimes your system is in sync with it and sometimes it isn't. Try and find a method that flows with the random. Here's what my graph looks like:

                                  xxx
                         xxxxxx
                       x
                     x
                   x
           xxxxx
         x           
       x
xxxxx         

When I'm not winning, I'm breaking even, there are no drawdowns. The X's don't represent individual bets, they are periods of bets. The key to success is not losing when you're not winning. To do this you need an intimate understanding of how your system interacts with random.

[Marven]

Well put Spike.

[Lanky]

The key to success is not losing when you're not winning.

Don't fall over Spike but I once again agree with You.

And being in Virtual mode(Not betting) while the bad trams go by is one way to accomplish that.

Lanky.

[Lohnro]

When I'm not winning, I'm breaking even, there are no drawdownss.

This is beyond comprehension Spike, the only way you can have NO draw downs is with a 100% hit rate?

[The Spiders Kiss]

This is beyond comprehension Spike, the only way you can have NO draw downs is with a 100% hit rate?

....or not betting...

[bombus]

... or block betting...

[Mr Chips]

As long as you have a well constructed system then losses and drawdowns will be of no consequence. In order for a system to make
a profit in the long term it must contain the following components :
 
1. The system must provide information as to what is happening in a session. You will then be able to evaluate the session and make
    informed opinions, as to the likely outcome of the session.

2. There has to be an exit strategy, whether it is a winning or losing session. A session should last so many x spins depending on the
    requirements of the system.
 
3. There has to be a minimum loss strategy and all the information gained from the session, will decide if the minimum loss is correct
    for a particular session and if valid then exit.
 
4. There is no doubt that a well constructed system will have some above average wins and these will more than compensate for the
    minimum losses.

5. In a difficult session it's always a good idea to bear in mind a break even result perhaps -7 or +5 especially especially if a session has
    been showing a loss most of the time.

If a system has the above then it doesn't matter how the random flows it will always produce a profit in the long term. This is not theory,
I have put it into practice over a number of years and it definitely works.
 
Mr Chips
 

[Bo0Merang]

I saw positive and negative trams.  Days I couldn't miss!  Days I couldn't buy a win.>>>

You're playing a fixed system that doesn't flow with the random, so the random has to flow around it. It goes up and down like a roller coaster and sometimes your system is in sync with it and sometimes it isn't. Try and find a method that flows with the random. Here's what my graph looks like:

                                  xxx
                         xxxxxx
                       x
                     x
                   x
           xxxxx
         x           
       x
xxxxx         

When I'm not winning, I'm breaking even, there are no drawdowns. The X's don't represent individual bets, they are periods of bets. The key to success is not losing when you're not winning. To do this you need an intimate understanding of how your system interacts with random.

Spike this  is  gorgeous  i  never  thing  about  this  how  this can  be  clearly  visible  Thank  you

[VLSroulette]

As long as you have a well constructed system then losses and drawdowns will be of no consequence. In order for a system to make
a profit in the long term it must contain the following components :
 
1. The system must provide information as to what is happening in a session. You will then be able to evaluate the session and make
    informed opinions, as to the likely outcome of the session.

2. There has to be an exit strategy, whether it is a winning or losing session. A session should last so many x spins depending on the
    requirements of the system.
 
3. There has to be a minimum loss strategy and all the information gained from the session, will decide if the minimum loss is correct
    for a particular session and if valid then exit.
 
4. There is no doubt that a well constructed system will have some above average wins and these will more than compensate for the
    minimum losses.

5. In a difficult session it's always a good idea to bear in mind a break even result perhaps -7 or +5 especially especially if a session has
    been showing a loss most of the time.

If a system has the above then it doesn't matter how the random flows it will always produce a profit in the long term. This is not theory,
I have put it into practice over a number of years and it definitely works.
 
Mr Chips
 

Thanks for the valuable input dear Richard.

I can tell you: something working for the bettor is the only thing that matter.

I'm very happy for your success, may more people understand the game like you and stop being the compulsive players to become the smarter gamblers, for the sake of themselves and their families

[Spike]

the only way you can have NO draw downs is with a 100% hit rate?>>

No no no. To break even when you're not winning all you need is to be is around 50/50 on the EC's. Tonight at the casino on the airball I won 29 and lost 31 on the first 60 bets and that was with 6 zeros that showed up. In the second hour I won 32 and lost 13. What happened here? When it was chaotic in the first hour, I treaded water, not winning but not losing either. In the second hour when the random started to sync with my method of play, I started winning.

This is not something I tried to accomplish on purpose, it came about as the natural course of things. My skill, thru daily practice of hours and hours for years now, is such that I can keep my head above water when most people would be drowning. If this happens on a regular wheel with a dealer, I switch wheels to a more favorable one. But on the airball, you have to wait it out because you don't have the option of switching. It goes so fast at 60 spins an hour that the random always changes back in my favor eventually and its costing me nothing to wait it out.

[Spike]

And being in Virtual mode(Not betting) while the bad trams go by is one way to accomplish that.>>

True. But I prefer to bet because I might not just break even but often pick up a unit or two while the random sorts itself out. And sometimes it changes in my favor like a light switch has been turned on and I don't want to miss the units I can win. I play for a very fixed goal and every unit towards that goal is needed.

[TwoCatSam]

Spike

That was most helpful!  Thank you.  You are bolstering my confidence.  Seriously!

Thanks!

Sam

[stevetracker]

how can u find a posotive tram and jump on it?


this is what u don t know...

and this was the clues that i was giving u all!!!

but u had to ruin it all!

stay here now and try to bet with a lot of ways anything u like!


IF U DO NOT KNOW WHEN THE TRAM WILL PASS THROUGH UR WAY....U CAN NEVER CATCH IT AND JUMP ON IT.SO U CAN NEVER WIN!!!!

[TwoCatSam]

I am publicly challenging you to prove what you can do on this forum.  It is very easy to do.  One person, a moderator, picks a trot of numbers and sends them to another member for verification.  We all three go to the chat and you are given the numbers one at a time and you tell us when you bet and when you need another number.  It will be plain if you are the genius who can break all the casinos in the world.  I say you are just a blowhard.  I'm calling you a blowhard.

How to find a positive tram:  Study the VLS Lw Methodology.

You are one sick person when you say I ruined it for the whole forum.  I'm the third person to join this forum and a past administrator.  I've seen people like you come and go for years.  You are sick and have a low self-esteem and need to try to convince the world you have done something.  You probably have done something:  You've lost more money than you ever care to count!

Take the challenge!  Put up or shut up!  I will hound you on every post you make until you either accept the challenge or go away.  As long as I don't violate the TOS of this forum, I will not be censured.

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

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