I have tried to read all of the threads that I can find on this subject, but I still have yet to see an answer.
Are there any "Live Wheel" casinos that accept US players?
And if not, is there some way circumvent the system in order to play?
What do the casinos need in order to payout?
Do they need to see some sort of proof of address?
I found a place online that I can get a UK address for 15 pounds per month. And I can use a Barclay's Visa gift card to fund
the account. I believe that you can get paid out on the same card as well.
Alot of casinos accept US players but they are all RNGs. And ALL RNGs are rigged to take your money! No matter what system you use, you lose!
Give me a live wheel and I can win all day long, but I can't find one to play real money.
Please help!
Drogan
I am an American and I can answer your questions. At present there are no live, on-line casinos where you may sign up and play. Do not try to use a phony address as they will eventually catch you. When you go to cash out, you must have a photo I.D., a copy, front and back, of your credit card, sometimes a utility bill or a lease agreement. Sometimes you have to have a bank account where they can verify your address.
Since 2007 I tried to hook up to no avail. I set up a phony UK address, got a UK phone number and finally got on at Ladbroke's using PayPal. Took them a day to find me out. Had to beg for my $400 back.
I can currently play at RiverBelle, All Jackpots, Wild Jack and Bella Vegas but this is because I opened the accounts before November of 2008. After that date they would not allow any further accounts.
Now, if you trust me, send me your money by PayPal and I will put it in Wild Jack casino for you and give you the user name and password. I might be a thief, but my preacher don't think so!! LOL
I'm not kidding. I sent money to two different people to open me accounts on Bet Voyager to run the Super Roulette Bot, otherwise I would not be playing there.
OR...just wait until September. Barney Frank's bill comes up for debate and it will pass. We will all have our chance at the wheels later this winter or early spring.
Let me know if I can help.
Sam
There is a live wheel at BetPhoenix. This a Sportsbook. I have not requested a withdrawal from them this year, since the live wheel showed up. I did recieve a payment at the end of last year using thier sportsbook. They verifiy everything.
Hope this helps
Phishalot
As for Mr. Franks I think if he successful it will be along time until it is in effect. Besides we might get some things in that bill we do not like. IE taxes taken out of winnings
Look at this but bear in mind they are in Costa Rica.
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Could it be that they like US players, since they can't make demands on their money, since they are not allowed there in the first place?
8)
Gotrek
Very valid point. It's like the guys of old who ordered porn and when they got ripped off, who you gonna call?
NO, I do not speak from experience!! I heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend........
Sam
Thanks Phish!
I'll check it out.
Wow! You have to be the Flash to play that wheel.
20 seconds to bet. :blink:
But the view is nice. At least they take American players. And the girl from customer service called me as soon as I signed up
just to let me know how to do everything, and to make sure I was satisfied.
And what is with the tips up in the corner of the screen? Is that how much people are tipping that girl?
She doesn't even have to play the game. She just stands there and spins the wheel and makes more
than we do grinding it out. Great gig if you can get it.
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Gotrek
Very valid point. It's like the guys of old who ordered porn and when they got ripped off, who you gonna call?
NO, I do not speak from experience!! I heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend. . . . . . . .
Sam
Or from someone who has seen 'Lock, stock and two smoking barrels. . . '
=o)
I looked at this online casino for live baccarat a few minutes ago...it seems nice.
Do they actually pay people from USA? And why can we play on this online casino but not any other live casino?
Hey Drogan. I introduced TwoCat to WildJack, All Slots and All Jackpots. For some reason they are not letting me play on the Live Games.
Anyways, I am convinced the only game in town is Dublinbet. It's the only online wheel I trust now. It's only a matter of getting real money to fund the account.
I think the sportsbooks have a loop hole in the law. It is something to do with the horses. My understanding is since the US has online racebooks that they can not block or interfer witht the racebooks. Our advantage is they are attached to other thing also.
Phishalot
oh ok, thanks for your answer. that makes sense.
Been playing for fun at PheonixBet for a couple of days now.
They make it too difficult to play. Not enough time to bet....They are only flash mode, you can't remove a bet without clearing the whole table, and a couple of other things I am not used to.
Beggars can't be choosers, but I can't play there. >:(
Thanks for letting me know about it.
If anyone knows of any other live wheels that will take Americans, please post.
I tried to put $200.00 on Bet Phoenix. I used my debit card and it got cleared for pre-authorization which means that I had to call. So I called them and they were very rude...they were unlike any customer services agents that I have ever spoken to. They told me that my transaction did not clear and after speaking with them I am very happy that the transaction failed. I got bad vibes just by talking to them.
If anyone is thinking of making a deposit with them then call first and you will see what I mean. I got the feeling that Bet Phoenix is operating out of some guys basement in Costa Rica and that they don't really care about the customer.
Oh and they played scary music while on hold.
John1234
I appreciate that heads up, but let me ask you this: If they are crooked as a snake, why wouldn't they be very nice to you to get your money? As it is they got nothing but negative advertising. Bernie Madoff was extremely nice to his potential victims or so I heard on TV.
Sam
Last night I couldn't fall asleep...I ended up putting money onto my bet phoenix account. I just went against everything I said...I hate it when I do that. Anyway, I still don't know if I trust them but I'm willing to risk the money this one time... I funded it with my ewallet express account.
I played baccarat and made 8 units then stopped. I actually like their baccarat a lot, I have not looked at roulette yet. I probably will not play roulette because Drogan gave it bad reviews.
@ John1234. I played (at BetPhoenix) with real money. I gave them my checking account information (don't do this) and ended up not being able to withdraw because conveiently the cashier was never around. Beware!
As for the American Roulette they sometimes do not spin the ball the regulation three revolutions per game. Sometimes they just drop the ball in the spinning wheel.
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@ John1234. I played (at BetPhoenix) with real money. I gave them my checking account information (don't do this) and ended up not being able to withdraw because conveiently the cashier was never around. Beware!
As for the American Roulette they sometimes do not spin the ball the regulation three revolutions per game. Sometimes they just drop the ball in the spinning wheel.
Thanks for letting me know. I used my ewalletexpress account. So if I request a withdraw will they not give it to me? Did you ever get to withdraw?
No, I never got the withdrawal from BetPhoenix.
Here is an update about BetPhoenix.
While the forum was down I had a lot of time to play live. I made 120 units over a few week period. I requested a withdraw last Wednesday and it was ready by Thursday or Friday, I forget which day. I received the money through a money gram and I cashed the check. The support staff was very nice. The only options for USA withdraws are through moneygram and check. Money gram is basically instant but there is a fee, I do not know what the % of the fee is. They took about $20.00 from me for the fee. The fee is worth it because the withdraw is basically instant. The last time I withdrew from an online casino I had to wait a month before I got my money. Bet Phoenix was very efficient and hopefully it will stay that way.
I glad you had a good experience. My experience was about three months ago--it was so horrible I never went back. If John1234 says they treated him right, they it's worth another chance. They have an excellent Baccarat game.
Yes, maybe they made it better since then. They do have a good baccarat game but the limits are strange. But for anyone who prefers to flat bet then it is great.