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Kingspins "Lucky Horse shoes" great winners.

Started by Kingspin, November 19, 2010, 05:22:52 PM

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TheHud

Hi everyone, I've been lurking for quite a while and testing this system and I thought I'd create a profile so I could add to this conversation.   My experience so far with Kingspins Lucky Horseshoe is that this one is outstanding.   It has rules and yet is flexible enough to add to it and I like that.   Here's how I've been playing, and I'll list my results below.

I play the American Wheel 00 with the suggested bet placement that Birdhands recommended to a reader a few pages ago.   

1 chip on  single street  1 -3
1 chip on  single street  7 - 9
1 chip on  single street  16 -18
1 chip on  single street   19 -21
1 chip on  single street  25 - 27
1 chip on single street  34- 36
1 chip on split 9 -12
1 chip on split 18 -21
1 chip on split 27- 30
1 chip on 0.
1 chip on 00.

My progression of choice is:

1112222333344445555666677778888

I slide to the right on a loss, to the left on a win, and stay on a street hit.   Once I move from one level to the next, I remain at that level until I see a new high profit and then return to level 1-1 (1 unit, 1st bet).   

My results:

Session     Profit     Max Level          Drawdown
1   $1    $141. 00             2-4                ?
2   $1    $115. 00             2-4                ?
3   $1    $79. 00             2-3              -60
4   $1    $56. 00             2-1              -60
5   $1    $127. 00             4-1              -210
6   $1    $48. 00             2-2               -75
7   $1    $110. 00             8-3               -866


These are all LIVE IN PERSON (brick and mortar) CASINO WINNINGS on American Wheels with $1 units.   My last session lasted for hours and hours and I just barely recovered into profit.  In the future I'll limit my progression to end after step 5-4.  (5 units, 4th step), or limit my winnings to 100-150 units and not be greedy (I was up to +176 before I started my huge drawdown during the last session).   

Hope this helps for anyone looking for a 00 Wheel strategy.   I'll keep you all posted on my future results.   Thanks Kingspin for this awesome system and special thanks to Birdhands for the American Wheel bet placement! 

-Chris

birdhands

Congrats Chris, glad to hear the horse shoe is still getting some play.  I found a live wheel with $1 bets, so I'll probably be playing again soon, too.  So you think putting $1 on each green (0 and 00) is better than one chip split between them?

Sam

N0vocane

Quote from: birdhands link=topic=17428. msg125348#msg125348 date=1294402941
Congrats Chris, glad to hear the horse shoe is still getting some play.   I found a live wheel with $1 bets, so I'll probably be playing again soon, too.   So you think putting $1 on each green (0 and 00) is better than one chip split between them?

Sam

It is much more profitable to put 1 chip on a 0 and 1 on 00 instead of playing the split because a split will pay 17-1 (which is 34-1 per number) and a playing the number will pay 35-1.  So your making an extra $1 per win.

birdhands

I don't think so.  It's the same either way because if you bet separately you lose the chips on the other 0.

My question was about how many chips to allot for the zeros in general as part of the overall betting scheme.

jrhelp007

To all with all the respect to the founder of this system,

This system has been tested to its extreme and demonstrated short & long run failures.

The system was executed at several Casino in Atlantic City New Jersey.

A friend of my who is living in Las Vegas tried it and got similar results.

I also ran it on RNG and ONLINE roulette casinos, bad results.

The system should downgraded from 5 to a single star!!!

Regards,

John

N0vocane

Quote from: jrhelp007 link=topic=17428. msg125548#msg125548 date=1294857629
To all with all the respect to the founder of this system,

This system has been tested to its extreme and demonstrated short & long run failures.

The system was executed at several Casino in Atlantic City New Jersey.

A friend of my who is living in Las Vegas tried it and got similar results.

I also ran it on RNG and ONLINE roulette casinos, bad results.

The system should downgraded from 5 to a single star!!!

Regards,

John

What mod of the system have you tested with? What progresson did you use? There are 3-4 different progressons here and 3  or 4 different system mods.  Which one have you tested? You can't just say something doesn't work then provide no results or information that backs up your claim.

TheHud

Birdhands, I've been playing with two units split on the zeroes.  Betting 11 units total per spin, so I still profit a little bit on a street.  Still seeing good results.  I'll post some later tonight. 

Kingspin

This is what I am sure is a better bet than the  other horse shoe bets posted. This is the golden horse shoe .
Bankroll should be about £150 to play with 10p chips.
1 CHIP ON DOUBLE STREET 4 -9
1 CHIP ON DOUBLE STREET  16 -21.
1 CHIP ON DOUBLE STREET 28 - 33
1 CHIP SPLIT 9 -12
1 CHIP SPLIT 8 -11
1 CHIP SPLIT 7 -10
1 CHIP  SPLIT 21 -24
1 CHIP SPLIT 20 -23
1 CHIP SPLIT 19 -22
1 CHIP SPLIT 33 -36
1 CHIP SPLIT 32 -35
1 CHIP SPLIT 31 -34
1 CHIP SPLIT 0 -2.
The way I play this method is simple , double the bets if you get 3 consecutive bets that are not profit bets.
QUIT WHILE AHEAD.

Post

I was playing this but whats the best progression for the methode sometimes it doesnt hit for three rounds or so.

buffalowizard

Quote from: Post on January 19, 2011, 11:30:27 AM
I was playing this but whats the best progression for the methode sometimes it doesn't hit for three rounds or so.

As Kingspin says above, just double your bets if lost 3

Kingspin

I played the golden horse shoe at ten rng casino's and walked away with profit every time , win streaks can be fantastic with this bet and i walk away with the profit after a nice streak , you just have to be greedy as hell to loose with this bet i promise.  Losses on each spin are either a complete loss on the bet (CL) eg number 14 is a CL.
oR a  partial loss bet is eg number 4 (PL) partial loss.

Say we get pl pl cl then we double all the chips and play till we hit a new profit. Mostly you will hit a new profit by doubling no more than 2 times. I tested this as a flat bet and it held up better than the other horse shoe bets.
The doubling method seems to work pretty good here .  :thumbsup:

Post

I still dont unerstand you say after 3 loses double, do you mean just 3 bets or 3 times  the whole bettingselection because I had that and at first I was +50 or somthing and then bad luck - 150 after not winning any bet

Kingspin

If three bets lose  or 3 spins which ever you want to call it ,then double all of the chips. Remember though you can only double the chips if 3 consecutive spins lose cl or pl.  The key to win big with this bet is to reset back to original chip value if you even only show slight profit on the martingale (doubles).  

I only lose with this bet when I go into the frenzy of greedy mode . ;D

This bet method is one of my favourites.

Just won another 100 chips earlier tonight with the golden horseshoe.  :)

I have won all on rng too which is pretty amazing , not tried the bet on a mechanical wheel yet though but my guess is you will be sat playing with a sore arse due to very very long sessions.

Post

just a question you called for exampel if 4 hits its a partial loss but the profit is the 36 and the bet is 28 so thats no loss is it ?

darrynf

hi kingspins,

im a little confuse, which system works best and which progression works best, there is so much detail as im staring to dout the system, i havent play it but am very interested.

if the first system work fine but you had to wait and only made bets when you win to ride the wave then why change it.
what is the best way to play the system and whats the best or safest progression, i play rng online and i dont believe rng is rigg well not at first. but in saying that the longer you play the sooner you are going to hit trouble.

what system do i play and what bets do i make and what progression do i use?

sorry to be a pain but i have no idea which is the best, i dont mined taking my time as long as it wins on a short session (say 100 spins, i never play for profit only spins).any advice would be much appreciated.


darrynf

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