What Does a Trend Look Like?

[VLSroulette]

Here's hoping this thread can go on and bring actual debate about trends. A very interesting topic which for some a non-existant matter at the game of roulette, for others it is their mean to keep ahead of the game.

Over this thread we want to go past the arguments and actually get to study "What Does a Trend Look Like?", we leave the door open for healthy on-topic debate.

Best regards.
Victor

[gizmotron]

Here's hoping this thread can go on and bring actual debate about trends. A very interesting topic which for some a non-existant matter at the game of roulette, for others it is their mean to keep ahead of the game.

Over this thread we want to go past the arguments and actually get to study "What Does a Trend Look Like?", we leave the door open for healthy on-topic debate.

Best regards.
Victor

Thanks Victor,

Now the thread has picked up another straggler. It appears that "triggers" have a generalized classification to them, that tend to mean a lot of things to many people.

[VLSroulette]

It appears that "triggers" have a generalized classification to them, that tend to mean a lot of things to many people.

As insane (or sane) as it may look like, I do think triggers are way too attached to each one's experiences.

This is attached to our personal set of experienced actuals. Let's remember each one of us is exposed to different numbers at our casinos and simulations, not two players are exposed to the same stream of numbers (unless they are siamese!). I think this has much to do with what's considered a "good" and a "bad" trigger (shall there actually be some more valid than other).

A player playing a biased wheel, not knowing there's really a biased section (say 26-0-32) which will come more often than expected, may have a numer in this biased area as betting trigger and say: 0 just came, 26 or 32 to come soon! And guess what, at that particular wheel he's trigger is right. But what happens when the personal bias come out of natural randomness?

I do allow room to the notion some people's set of experienced personal actuals can be biased towards certain combinations to come more often than they should precisely at the time they are playing (due to pure randomness & deviations, granted to average in infinity, but presenting "personal bias" for certain players). Hence, in this scenario  a player can actually say: "Too many reds recently, after black, I'll bet black for some spins as my trigger", while for another bettor that exact same trigger could be pure useless! Reds keep on coming over and over after black.

What I have learned from my experiences with spanish players is: it isn't as much the trigger as the reaction to the actual layed bets' results what counts.

Namely you can choose your bets in every imaginable way you wish, but how you act after lost real-money bets and how you maximize your winning bets trams, is what can actually allow you be ahead of the game.

Kind regards.
Victor

[gizmotron]

not two players are exposed to the same stream of numbers (unless they are siamese!).
Victor

LOL, have you seen that?

[bombus]

Concerning trends, would the Chinese strategy for prosperity, Dragons & Worms qualify as trend related? For them winners are dragons and losers are worms.
Here, one is free to move around the casino observing the action. When you see someone winning big, this is your dragon and you bet with this person. Or, when you see someone losing big, this is your worm and you bet against this person; you see it all the time on the bac tables.  I say this is trend betting with almost no math or science experience required.
OK, lets say you have recorded 1 million spins and identified a pattern of some type that re-occurs periodically. Is this a trend yet?
You then proceed to study the spin results directly after each pattern occurred and find that after the identified pattern, (A) happens frequently, (B) less frequently, (C) sometimes (D) rarely, and (E) never. Is this a trend yet?
Lets say you somehow succeeded in reducing the equation so that you now only need to record 42 spins, you identify your pattern and perceive the apparent possibilities of the 42 subsequent spins. So you now have A, B, C, D, and E (E never happens... but) to deal with. Does the trend continue to diversify, or is this where "educated guessing" chimes in?
Perhaps more diversification is in order? Then lets say after 42 spins, (A) occurs, now do you revert to compiling another 42 spins, or do you move along the trail, or both? In your initial 1 million spins, there was the recurring pattern, then the (A, B, C, D, E) follow on, which frequently resulted in (A). In the (1 million spins) study you found that in the results post Pattern/(A), the frequency of (A) and (B) was reversed, and that in fact (A) moved into position (C), (B) into (A), (C) into (B) etc.  Is this a trend yet? Do we now use an edumecated guess?
This sort of thing could go on and on or stop now.
In regard to roulette, the magnitude of system possibilities, educated guessing techniques, precognitive awareness methods, etc, all combined with staking plan formulae is probably as diverse as life on earth.....
So should we be asking what does a trend look like, or what is the relationship between perceived trends and roulette play, and at what point can we be confident with the selections that this relationship has produced?

[gizmotron]

Yes, now perfect that into a winnable method for yourself. Double your effort to diversify recognition and find the commonality where simplification runs through all that too. There will come a point when you can filter out the garbage and keep what works for you. You will find that timing is just as important as following the concept. You will find that the concept is only a premise for placing a guess. You will know that there are better and worse forms and qualities of guessing. Finally you will know why and how all those things string together to give you a workable plan.

There is no way to walk anyone step by step through all that. It's like trying to see a maze from ground level. You must learn your own way. I believe that each of us finds our own favorite things to look at.

For those that think all this is baloney, I would like to thank you for doing your part in keeping casinos open.

[Spike]

and at what point can we be confident with the selections that this relationship has produced?>>>

When you consistantly win more than you lose. Bet selection is everything in gambling and MM is far second. The people who say MM is the most important are kidding themselves.

[bombus]

For those that think all this is baloney, I would like to thank you for doing your part in keeping casinos open.

Seconded.

[ReDsQuaD]

True Herb, at roulette there aren't any trends. But even in the FX market there aren't no trends, I mean you can't discern a trend before it is alive. There is this lagging effect we can't avoid with trends.

What a load of horse shit. You are just here to cause trouble and that's it. You don't have clue what you are talking about.

James.

[Mr J]

January....09? 

[Mr J]

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