Gamblers Fallacy (not what you think)

Zindrod · March 10, 2011, 03:17:42 PM

Quote from: Gizmotron link=topic=18192. msg130932#msg130932 date=1299779225
I somewhat agree with some of what you just said. You said that I could use any system to grab numbers out of the air. That's very true. I have said something like that in the past on this forum. You don't have to use trends found in past spins to discover current conditions. Things like wins streaks, being a hot player, the table is really being good to you right now. People give meaning to things so that they can communicate with others and relate to them too.

So if I use a systematic syntax for identifying my own interpretation for the characteristics of randomness it's not the roulette wheel that has the memory. It's me that has the memory. If I get good at my method then all I have is a bet selection process that helps me identify win streaks. How is it that I'm fooling myself? I have no expectation other than discovering the current conditions. I think it's you that are fooling yourself. "Past results are just that. They are history. They do not have bearing on future events. " The don't need to Zindrod. Who is suggesting that they do? If you look closer you will see that it is you that is implying this. Let's be real clear here. Using past spin results to see information that is historically current is not about making predictions. For me it's about finding things that are currently continuing. BTW, that data is 100% accurate. It's a representation of the exact current conditions.

Your own interpretation . . . . you are fooling your own mind. There are no current trends as you put it. The next spin could go anywhere. Off course you are using history to determine whatever you think is a pattern. That is unfortunately wrong.

gizmotron · March 10, 2011, 03:30:44 PM

Quote from: Zindrod on March 10, 2011, 03:17:42 PM
Your own interpretation . . . . you are fooling your own mind. There are no current trends as you put it. The next spin could go anywhere. Off course you are using history to determine whatever you think is a pattern. That is unfortunately wrong.

What a joke. What is this? Are you the new and improved snowman/herb?

Hey SodzodMan, the next spin confirms continuation of the effect or it confirms the effect ending. This situation can't exist without the current conditions combined with the next spin. After the next spin has occurred then the process continues as long as it can keep continuing. But you see nothing, hear nothing, and know nothing. Kind of like a funny fat German sargent on an old TV show.

Zindrod · March 10, 2011, 03:38:47 PM

ok, did not realize this was such a hostile forum. Also didn't realize that there are still people from 1820 around. Look my friend I'm not looking for an arguement. I know the simple facts. Whatever boggles your mind, please continue. If you are happy with silly methods please continue. Not that I have to tell you. You will anyway.

Zindrod · March 10, 2011, 03:40:50 PM

For the record the next spin is a continuation of the previous, correct. The thing is that you don't know which of the many many directions it will go to. Grow up.

Kelly · March 10, 2011, 03:58:32 PM

Common gizmo, you promised the casino would be gone when you started your teaching After 10 private students and your own publich funny ground, they are still there. Shares are going down tonight though. I don`t think you and all your students is whats causing it though. Or maybe they heard about you on Wall Street ? Naaa.......

Ken, whatever. Can`t find the board anymore. You very convienyently ducked a reply to my post, wonder why. Nothing to say ? No comprende ? No fit in agenda ?

gizmotron · March 10, 2011, 03:59:33 PM

Quote from: Zindrod on March 10, 2011, 03:40:50 PM
For the record the next spin is a continuation of the previous, correct. The thing is that you don't know which of the many many directions it will go to. Grow up.

Big deal that I don't know of the many directions it will go to. You act like I'm claiming that I do know. If my next ten guesses all lose then I know that I have hit a steep downturn. If my next ten bets win then I know I have been in a winning streak. That's all I need to know to whip butt on the casinos. If I use a well defined method to illustrate that process for me and it works for me, guess what? It does this no matter what you believe. You can assume all you want to. You can be wrong and that's OK too. It's real easy. You are wrong. See? I can do this too.

Welcome to the forum. You already have allies that will support your beliefs. I'm the only one around here that has crossed the lines. I'm teaching this and you can't stop me. When others gain this skill and actually go into casinos and win with it then you will need a well constructed excuse. Or, you could just chicken out and leave. I'm going ahead and publishing it all here on this forum. Like it or not.

gizmotron · March 10, 2011, 04:09:05 PM

Quote from: Kelly on March 10, 2011, 03:58:32 PM
Common gizmo, you promised the casino would be gone when you started your teaching After 10 private students and your own publich funny ground, they are still there. Shares are going down tonight though. I don`t think you and all your students is whats causing it though. Or maybe they heard about you on Wall Street ? Naaa.......

Oh, did I really say that? In your mind I'm sure you saw it that way. I never said that people would be able to do this in the first week that I started teaching it. I said once this is known. If ten people take down a million each then the casinos around the world will want to know what it was. They will act. Then the mathboyz will want to know what it was too. So keep playing your part. The guy that was too late for the party. And he even got a personal invitation too. So that makes you exceptionally unique.

Zindrod · March 10, 2011, 04:10:12 PM

Fair enough Gizmoron.

You do that. I believe I should be dead in about 30 years time. If I'm not. I should have had enough time to figure out a proper appology. We both know though that you won't be able to do what you have said in a lifetime and more. That or you might just be truely crazy. If you are truly crazy, my condolences to you. Anyway, my appologies if I upset you. I am right though you know. about having instant so-called alliances. I didn't know we were at war. But nice to know we have other clear thinking guys around here. I was getting slightly worried.

Zindrod · March 10, 2011, 04:13:32 PM

In your last post you mention 10 students taking 1 mil each....

How much have you taken? Come on! You must be a 10 year old.

VKM · March 10, 2011, 04:19:22 PM

Hello Gizmo,

What would this world be like if everyone thought that something couldn't be done, just because they couldn't do it? I get you.

VKM

Zindrod · March 10, 2011, 04:21:52 PM

yes, like fitting a house in a shoe box

Kelly · March 10, 2011, 04:22:10 PM

They haven`t taken anything except a lot of our time. If it wasen`t so amusing i wouldn`t read it on and off. I think whats keeping gizmo from conquer the casinos is that he is 2 inch short of a bankroll and 4 inch short of a way to play. All hes got of value is an unstable internet connection which comes in handy when things gets too specific. He is THE MASTER of seeing a trend after it has been there. No one above, no one besides. He can tell you when he has lost 10 times and when he has won 10 times.

Just in case you couldn`t do it yourself.

gizmotron · March 10, 2011, 04:22:38 PM

Quote from: Zindrod on March 10, 2011, 04:10:12 PM
Anyway, my appologies if I upset you. I am right though you know.

You haven't upset me. I'm just tickled pink. It's funny though. You guys are all the same. You have that same need to inform everyone that you are right. And even more important that others are wrong. It's almost like you are being driven crazy by those that refuse to listen to your wisdom. I hope that doesn't upset you. I mean you guys never give up. The group you belong to is called the mathboyz. Like I said, welcome to the forum.

MiniBaccarat · March 10, 2011, 04:22:51 PM

G'day,

Maui, Mike, Zindrod,

You fellows are not only wrong with your beliefs concerning Roulette (or in my case Baccarat)
but also in the concerted belief that we either have to explain or prove / test our ways of winning!

Quote from: Zindrod on March 10, 2011, 04:21:52 PM
yes, like fitting a house in a shoe box

Good point, How big is the shoe box OR the house, if it doesn't fit , change the size of at least one of the items!

Glenn.

Zindrod · March 10, 2011, 04:25:40 PM

Hi Mini,

No disrespect but I didn't ask for any proof. I know the simple (and they are simple) facts and so do the casinos.

what are the biggest shoes worn by human? What is the biggest shoe box? what is the smallest house a human lives in? Come on mate. It's like you are trying to tell people that red is blue.

Look maybe I'm at the wrong forum. I have seen to much heartbreak in the past with so-called proven systems.

Fact. A guy that went and lost a million bucks in a casino because he had a fool proof system. It was his inheritance. He went to his car in the parking lot and blew out his brains. True story. The facts of pie in the sky dreams. Sky castles and the like.

Hey guys whatever makes you happy.

Zindrod · March 10, 2011, 04:25:40 PM

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