Hi guys , sorry to be away so long. I've been away from roulette for awhile playng the horses and doing quite well actually. But 2 weeks ago I was playing around with roulette and a single street system that wins almost every time, I don't know why but it does. You have probably seen similar systems but maybe not exactly the way I play it, here goes !
1. Start tracking hits to a single street (ss) until there are 5 ss's that have not had a hit. Bet on these 5 ss with progression 1,2,4,7,12,20 (230 units) you will usually get a hit before the 3rd bet. Average win is 10 units.
2. Now bet on the 4 remaining ss that have not had a hit with progression 1,2,3,5,7,11,16 (180 units) again you will get a hit very quickly. Average win is 12 units, total 22 units so far.
3. Now bet on the remaining 3 ss that have not had a hit with progression 2,3,4,5,7,9,12,16,22 (240 units) average win is 20 units, total 42 units.
4. Stop ! If you want you can start a new session by tracking again from the beginning.
As you are well aware, a ss can sleep a long time but not 3 ss, so I think that is why this works almost every time. In 2 weeks, I have seen it fail once out of about 44 sessions, so it makes serious profits. This made me think of you guys here in the forum so I came to post this for you all to try. BTW, it even works with RGN online casinos which is what I usually play. Have fun and GOOD LUCK !!
cheers !
hammy
hammy
Thanks for that! We have another "hammy" floating around so don't bump heads! May I ask what Casino you play this on RNG?
Sammy
Early results look good. Of course it's still early. I don't like the big progression/loses, but it's hitting a fair bit (but I think that's expected).
If this keeps up, I'll post in the testing section.
Thanks hammy.
MM
Yes, seems promising.
I'll keep on testing...
Ice
Anyone trying this system might find my
"Magic Streets" programme helpful.
Available in the "Members Download" section.
thanks guys !
like I said, I'm not sure why it works so well, I know the progressions are scary but they don't seem to go very far without a hit.
Hi Sam !
hey this is the original "hammy" ...LOL , not sure about the other one ?
The online casino I use is Roxy Palace, microgamming software. Not sure if Americans are accepted ? I am from Canada.
cheers !
hammy
Hi Hammy, ;)
Do Roxy Palace have a "live" wheel as well as RNG pls???
Many thanks & good luck with this system...... 8)
Cheers....[smiley=beer.gif]
ahhhh my namesake!!! gd day to u mate :p
"Hammy" too
Hi hammy nice to see you around! How is doing the single dozen system, you know the 4 not repeating with the killing progression?
If we make some money on the streets we buy you a new saddle, but horse you have to buy by yourself, they are expensive. I think I tested it long time ago and it works better until the 4 streets. To chase the last 3 could be dangerous adventure but 5 and 4 are secure. You must lost mainly on the 3 streets? Could you start even higher e.g. from 6 streets?
Hermes
any recommended exit pt? BR ? profit aim?
Hammy* mach 2 :D
ooo Hammy i have a question. For 5 ss if u get a hit on the last step, its an overall loss? of 10 units? Pardon my math ... not too good at it
Ham
hamsup_sotong,
hi hammy 2 !
no, I believe the math is correct on all the progressions for a profit on any hit.
exit point is after step 3 or any lost progression.
xmn1970,
no, I don't believe Roxy Palace has a live wheel, at least I haven't seen one there.
hermes,
you can stop after step 2 if you are afraid of progression on only 3 ss, butyour profits will be much smaller and I don't find step 3 a problem. You should test it first before putting real money down. good luck !
Thx for getting back 2 me Hammy 1 ;)
hammy ol' bean
Maybe my math is funny but as of the 4th bet in the progression in step 1, losses are 130units in total correct?( assuming 1 unit = 5)
[table=,]
Bet, Win, Win-Bet, Total
5,0,-5,-5
10,0,-10,-15
20,0,-20,-35
35,0,-35,-70
60,0,-60,-130
100,0,-100,-230
[/table]
On a win on the 20 unit step, im assuming a win of 220units?(220-100= 120). Isn't that a loss of 10 Overall? I'm confused. Anyone?
Hammy jr
Hey hamsup...
progression as hammy put it:
1,2,4,7,12,20 (so 5,10,20,36,60,100)
Loss
-5,-10 (-15 overall),-20 (-35),-35 (-70),-60 (-130),-100 (-230)
Wins
7,14 (+9 overall), 28 (+13),49 (+14), 85 (+15), 140 (+10)
Looks good to me.
Matt
Thanks mattymattz, you've got it !
here it is another way :
unit per ss total bet win profit
1 5 12 7
2 15 24 9
4 35 48 13
7 70 84 14
12 130 144 14
20 230 240 10
hope this is clear ?
hammy
Looking forward to seeing some test results.
ok , I just played 3 sessions at Roxy Palace, online casino, RNG, microgaming software.
Session#1 #2 #3
spins to hit in step 1 (5 ss) 1 1 4
profit in step 1 $7 $7 $14
spins to hit in step 2 (4 ss) 3 2 1
profit in step 2 $12 $12 $8
spins to hit in step 3 (3 ss) 4 1 7
profit in step 3 $18 $18 $18
total profit for session $37 $37 $40
total spins in session incl. track'g 16 15 22
time to play session 7 min. 7 min. 8 min.
I played these 3 sessions without logging out after each one, but just tracked a new set of numbers for each session. It only took about 20 minutes to make $114 using $1 units, very typical for this system.
cheers,
hammy
Hammy,
what do you mean here "without logging out after each one"...
Thanx
Ice
Thanks for your replies guys
Will get to testing this soon.
Busy busy busy with all the testing
ahahah maybe i should be the 2nd coming of Sam( as well as hammy of course!!)as well.
Cheers and Happy testing!! :D
"Hammy" Jr
Hey Hammy,
Thanks for posting up the system bud...much appreciated ;) Just wondering, have you ever had any losses at the first step (waiting for the 5 ss to hit?) or have most of your losses been at the second and third steps?
Thx,
MD 8)
Hey Mystidark,
I have seen losses on the first step (more than once). Have also seen back to back losses (both 3rd step).
Matt
iceberg1912 ,
"without logging out" this is when I continue a new session online without clicking "exit" from the casino and having to log back in with password etc.
mystidark ,
never lost at the first step 5ss, but lost once at 2nd step 4ss and once at 3rd step 3ss but that is in more than 50 sessions.
cheers
hammy
Hammy,
"lost once at 2nd step 4ss and once at 3rd step 3ss"
what do you do when this happen?
Thnks
Ice
You have 2 choices. Hang yourself or swallow the loss. Multiple bankroll required but in long term it should win more than lose. Only testings will show which way to go. Important message: don't chase the losses, they are faster than you. Don't go to bank machine to pick up more ammunition!
It reminds me of toby's system. The same strategy as hammy's but he plays numbers that way and successfully, too. Hammy's is easier to manage.
With heart, Hermes
So why not playing on 1st step 5ss and than restart?
Ice
Iceberg, because with one charting you win the 5th, 4th and 3rd combination of sleepers. Much more reward money for the waiting period.
I tested it on couple of hundred spins and went up to 2 streets left down. E.g. 5s W 4s W 3s W 2s Win. Won all. If you play the last 2 sleeping streets it could be risky but you have much more bankroll to cover the misses. Probably even for 20 spins if you just want to win. How is the statistic expectation of not coming 2 streets ? (6 numbers in real game) Know it somebody? Or how much for 5s/4s/3s/2s not coming?
Hermes
iceburg1912,
if I lose a progression at any step, it's a signal to stop, take a break, come back another time. It will take about 5 or 6 winning sessions to recover so it's not quite the end of the world. Don't chase the loss by doubling the stakes. It takes less than an hour online to play 6 sessions.
hermes is correct about playing just the 5ss and starting over, it will not generate much profit for the work you did but if you want to stop after winning the 4ss, then that wouldn't be too bad. However, winning the 3ss is the real reward in this strategy and I don't feel it's much more risk.
thanks for your interest guys !
hammy
thanks Hammy, now is clear.
Ice
I keep on profit with this system.
What's others experience.
Ice
ANY UPDATES ON THIS SYSTEM.......IT IS WORKABLE???
Quote from: hammy on September 15, 2008, 06:14:34 PM
Hi guys , sorry to be away so long. I've been away from roulette for awhile playng the horses and doing quite well actually. But 2 weeks ago I was playing around with roulette and a single street system that wins almost every time, I don't know why but it does. You have probably seen similar systems but maybe not exactly the way I play it, here goes !
1. Start tracking hits to a single street (ss) until there are 5 ss's that have not had a hit. Bet on these 5 ss with progression 1,2,4,7,12,20 (230 units) you will usually get a hit before the 3rd bet. Average win is 10 units.
2. Now bet on the 4 remaining ss that have not had a hit with progression 1,2,3,5,7,11,16 (180 units) again you will get a hit very quickly. Average win is 12 units, total 22 units so far.
3. Now bet on the remaining 3 ss that have not had a hit with progression 2,3,4,5,7,9,12,16,22 (240 units) average win is 20 units, total 42 units.
4. Stop ! If you want you can start a new session by tracking again from the beginning.
As you are well aware, a ss can sleep a long time but not 3 ss, so I think that is why this works almost every time. In 2 weeks, I have seen it fail once out of about 44 sessions, so it makes serious profits. This made me think of you guys here in the forum so I came to post this for you all to try. BTW, it even works with RGN online casinos which is what I usually play. Have fun and GOOD LUCK !!
cheers !
hammy
HAMMY......CAN IT BE PLAYED IN REAL LIVE CASINO?
Vic...
All caps are considered shouting and are only appropriate in very rare cases...........like.........
QUIT SHOUTING!!
Now, you take that right, ya hear!
Sam
I've been testing this, works pretty good.
The one loss I had happened when I had early wins with
the first two progressions. Those last 3 streets didn't have
enough time to sleep. I'll try skipping the 3rd progression
and re-tracking after that happens from now on.
VICLIMKS,
yes, it can be played in a real casino. You will need a pen and paper to track the streets before and during betting but shouldn't be a problem.
droidman,
good idea about hitting the first 2 progressions quickly and skipping the 3ss step. Or don't bet for 3 more spins and the 3 ss have still not hit.
hammy
Just tested this with play money on DB
Started with the 500 units and 5 unit starting stakes.
Made 240 units in 34 spins!
I was going great and never went past the 2nd step progression unitl the last win when i had to go to the 4th step.
Still a good system, its amazing how often it hits!
Will test more later, I was also thinking of stopping at the 2nd progression as it hits a LOT. Then just taking the loss and starting again.
Thanks for posting Hammy!
Anyone got RX code for this?
please show how to play it.... i dont understand this method...
what is street?
Star, read the first post of this topic.
Street is 3 numbers (1,2,3) (4,5,6) ecc.
Ice
anymore testing? ;)
I've tested this over 4000 or so spins and saw too many losses to merit further testing (for me anyways). Although the wins are impressive, the losses are too big. I've seen losses at every stage and back-to-back.
I agree with matty,
system falls down too many times at the 3th stage...
Ice
That's my prognosis, the 3 streets can by long term sleepers. Why not to start with 6 and finish with 4 streets left?
Hermes
mattymattz,
Thanks for your testing !
Please tell us how many winning sessions you get for every losing one and where you are getting your numbers that you are basing your testing. Your results seem to be very much different than what I am getting with real money sessions.
thanks,
hammy
The system seems to work (I tested it twice on Players Palace (Riverbelle live wheel)). The five and four streets I found the most effective.---but it does get expensive..[you need at least $200 bankroll]
I play 7 sessions at DB, and loose 3ss three times!
Maybe I'm unlucky.
I guess it's better play only 5 and 4 ss and then restart or 6, 5 , 4 ss.
Any suggest (or test) in these ways?
Ice
Quote from: hermes on September 22, 2008, 06:43:09 PM
That's my prognosis, the 3 streets can by long term sleepers. Why not to start with 6 and finish with 4 streets left?
Hermes
whats the progression needed for 6 ss???can u pls.show me......still new in roullette..thanks
Progression for 6 streets would be based on Martingale. Doubleing, anything less won't leave you in profit.
I have been testing the 6 streets method only, retrack after one of them hit, progression has been 1,2,4,8,16,32,64.
It has not gone past 64 yet, but it still early days.
I have asked the good gents @ RX to code it for me, but am still waiting for it, Unless anybody here can help out...
Quote from: hammy on September 22, 2008, 11:54:27 PM
mattymattz,
Thanks for your testing !
Please tell us how many winning sessions you get for every losing one and where you are getting your numbers that you are basing your testing. Your results seem to be very much different than what I am getting with real money sessions.
thanks,
hammy
Hey Hammy,
My numbers came from DB and from Weisban files. I don't have an exact count for how many winning vs. losing sessions, but the loses were too much for the wins to handle. I even tried just betting the 1st and 2nd step, which was better overall, but still negative (in terms of balance).
Matt
ok, thanks mattymattz !
your results tell me this system is not acceptable over the long run, I am working on a safer alternative that won't earn as high profits but it must safeguard against losing our bankroll with a bad run.
I will get back to you all !
cheers,
hammy
I have revised my "single street system".
It will only involve betting on 6 ss or 5 ss throughout the session.
The betting progression for 6ss is: 1,2,5,10,20 for profit of +6,6,12,12,12
Bankroll needed is 228 units.
The betting progression for 5ss is: 1,2,4,7,12,20 for profit of +7,9,13,14,14,10
Bankroll needed is 230 units.
Step 1. Track ss hits until there are 6 ss that have not hit.
Step 2. Bet on those 6 ss that have not hit with progression above.
Step 3. Now bet on the 5 ss that have not hit with progression above.
Step 4. Now bet on the 4 ss that have not hit PLUS the ss with the most hits so far with the 5 ss progression above. If there are 2 ss that are tied for the most hits bet both with the 6 ss progression.
Step 5. Now if the ss hit was one that had no hits bet on the other 3 ss that have not hit plus the 2 ss with the most hits with the 5ss progression. If the ss hit was one of the most hit ss then bet again with the same 5 ss progression. If there are 3 ss with the most hits, bet all 3 ss plus the 3 ss with no hits with the 6 ss progression.
Step 6. Stop !! you have made a nice profit. If you want to play another session, start over again tracking new ss until you have 6 ss with no hits and go to step 2. Good luck !
BTW, I have played 5 real money sessions at Roxy Palace to test this revised system and made profits of $37, $35, $37, $29, and $37. Each session only took about 7 minutes and less than 20 spins. I like the concept of using ss that have hit the most because you will find there is definitely a pattern of hot ss that hit in a short span, we may as well take advantage of this.
cheers,
hammy
hammy
That's the way to post rules!! Leaves no wiggle room.
Wish I had time to try it, but I will copy it to my "systems to test" file!
sammy
thanks hammy - I'll be sure to give this version a go!
Matt
"Five Streets v1.0" in the Members Downloads
section will help play this system.
Pic and details in my "Common Sense" section.
Hammy, you said "If there are 2 ss that are tied for the most hits bet both with the 6 ss progression".
What about if there're more then 2 ss (ex. 4) that are tied?
Thanks
ice
Hi iceberg1912,
That is not likely to happen with just a few spins at this point but if say 3 ss have 2 hits each, pick the 2 ss that have hit most recently. So whenever there is a tie, pick the most recent ss hits.
BTW, I played 3 more real money sessions with the new revision system and made profits of $38, $36, $33, an easy $107 in about 25 minutes of play at online casino.
I will post back if and when I get a losing session, hopefully not for awhile :)
Thanks hammy for the updated rules!!
I just tested 4 trials and I won on all of them, made about $120. I went as high as the 4th progression.
madupz4,
well done !
yes, it is normal to get the 4th progression once in awhile, but mostly the hits are before that.
may I ask where your 4 trials were played ?
thanks !
hammy
Quote from: hammy on September 24, 2008, 03:31:01 PM
madupz4,
well done !
yes, it is normal to get the 4th progression once in awhile, but mostly the hits are before that.
may I ask where your 4 trials were played ?
thanks !
hammy
BoDog casino, practice money
Quote from: TwoCatSam on September 23, 2008, 08:29:46 PM
hammy
That's the way to post rules!! Leaves no wiggle room.
Wish I had time to try it, but I will copy it to my "systems to test" file!
sammy
Don't worry buddy - I'm on it!
First test:
Total Spins: 249 (I tested the entire spin collection, even though I wouldn't play like this. But I get a better picture overall this way)
Sessions played: 18 (see table below for a breakdown). Please note that "W-S2" means "Win - Step 2"... "W-S4" would mean Win - Step 4... so you know what step in won on. Also, for the 4Street Bet, "W-S3(5)" means "Win - Step 3 (Bet 5 lines) as we have the option to bet 5 lines or 6, depending on the hot streets and how many there are. (Also - I only look over the past 18 spins in determining the hottest street(s).)
[table=,]
Session,6-Street,5-Street,4-Street +,End Profit,Overall
1,W-S2,W-S1,W-S1(6),+19,19
2,W-S1,W-S1,W-S3(5),+33,52
3,W-S3,W-S3,W-S1(5),+32,84
4,W-S2,W-S1,W-S3(5),+26,110
5,W-S1,Loss,N/A,-224,-114
6,W-S1,W-S1,W-S1(6),+19,-95
7,W-S3,W-S2,W-S4(5),+35,-60
8,W-S5,W-S6,W-S2(5),+31,-29
9,W-S1,W-S1,W-S4(5),+27,-2
10,W-S3,W-S1,W-S1(5),+26,24
11,W-S1,W-S2,W-S4(5),+29,53
12,W-S2,W-S1,W-S1(5),+20,73
13,W-S1,W-S1,W-S1(6),+19,92
14,W-S2,W-S1,W-S1(6),+19,111
15,W-S1,W-S1,W-S1(5),+20,131
16,W-S2,W-S2,W-S2(5),+24,155
17,W-S1,W-S1,W-S2(5),+22,177
18,W-S2,W-S1,W-S1(6),+19,196
[/table]
I was impressed on how it rebounded nicely. If this keeps up, I would easily consider playing with a stop loss of 2 or 3 losses, and looking for 50 to 100 units profit.
I'll keep you posted. Cheers Hammy.
Matt
PS - Have I mentioned how much I love these tables?? [smiley=3D-Smil/36_1_27.gif]
maybe I posted too soon...
started testing another batch... by spin 106 I already had 3 losses in 8 sessions... down almost 600 units right now.
All losses have occured on the 5-Street Step.
Matt
Think it's wise to watch for a sleeping
dozen. If 3 or 4 qalifying streets are
in one dozen - don't bet.
Perhaps wait for more spins. Possible for
five or six streets to have no hits after
only six or seven spins. Perhaps wait
for streets with only one or two hits after a
larger number of spins?
Hey Guys,
Was testing this system out using 9ss, 8ss and 6ss and all of those lost eventually..so whatever you do, make sure you play like bjb said, either using a LLw sequence or understanding that a loss will come and it will eat away enormously into your profits. So be careful. I even tried out the method with 10ss, using a 3-step progression and eventhough it has always won, the units won in relation to a potential loss is pretty big (like 2u won to an approx. -300u loss) so you need a good appetite for risk..hehe, thats my forte ;)
Am trying out something very simple but slightly different, to hammy's method, will let you guys know if it pans out..
Keep Testing!
MD 8)
Hi guys !
Just played 4 more 'real' money sessions winning all with profits of $31, $39, $37, $35. Only one progression went to the 5th bet, none to 4th bet, 3 to the 3rd bet, 4 to 2nd bet and 8 won on 1st bet of the progression.
I have now played 12 sessions with revised system, winning all with total $426 profit, for average of $36 per session.
mattymattz,
I don't know why this is working with "real" money better than your "testing" mode ? I could now have two losing sessions and still be in profit. I am sure that I'm due for a loss but I like it so far ! :D
Its the bet selection. It's too steep. How 'bout 11111222224444477777,12,12,12,12,12,20,20,20,20,20? for 5ss (and 5 steps for the 4ss, 3ss, etc.)
i test it today in real live casino and is going quite positive this system......anyone doing more testing on this system?
Quote from: hammy on September 25, 2008, 04:22:26 PM
Hi guys !
Just played 4 more 'real' money sessions winning all with profits of $31, $39, $37, $35. Only one progression went to the 5th bet, none to 4th bet, 3 to the 3rd bet, 4 to 2nd bet and 8 won on 1st bet of the progression.
I have now played 12 sessions with revised system, winning all with total $426 profit, for average of $36 per session.
mattymattz,
I don't know why this is working with "real" money better than your "testing" mode ? I could now have two losing sessions and still be in profit. I am sure that I'm due for a loss but I like it so far ! :D
hammy...........hows your play real $$$...it is working out for u?would liked update from u.
VICLIMKS,
Hi, sorry but I have not played real money for a week now. About a week ago I 'lost' my first session and quit. When I say 'lost' , what happened was I did not place the final bet $20 of the progression on the 5ss, so took a smaller loss of $112 instead of $212 BUT as it happened if I bet that last bet it would have WON ! So, I did not stick to my rules of playing out the full progression. :-[
However I am still up $314 in 13 sessions 8) , but have been busy with other stuff.
The system is there for anyone to use, I'm sure it will win more than it will lose in the long term and it is enjoyable to play, it's quick and does not take alot of tracking to get started. good luck !
cheers,
hammy ;)
Quote from: hammy on October 03, 2008, 10:40:32 AM
VICLIMKS,
Hi, sorry but I have not played real money for a week now. About a week ago I 'lost' my first session and quit. When I say 'lost' , what happened was I did not place the final bet $20 of the progression on the 5ss, so took a smaller loss of $112 instead of $212 BUT as it happened if I bet that last bet it would have WON ! So, I did not stick to my rules of playing out the full progression. :-[
However I am still up $314 in 13 sessions 8) , but have been busy with other stuff.
The system is there for anyone to use, I'm sure it will win more than it will lose in the long term and it is enjoyable to play, it's quick and does not take alot of tracking to get started. good luck !
cheers,
hammy ;)
hammy.........any trip reports on the system.......would like to know r u winning?
Hi Guys, ( Hammy, sorry to highjack this tread, but this system is a variation of yours).
I have been using a variation of this system on Playtech RNG's only, with great success so far. My betting unit is $0.10c and here's where i am a week later. Playing 2 casino's. 1st casino from $26.00 - $120.00. 2nd casino from $60.00 - $273.00.
Here's how it goes.
Use BJB007's Five streets v1.0 to track. Track 24 spins, usually you will see four, five or 6 streets have repeated 3 or more times. Bet on 3 or higher repeated streets till a win with a 12 step progression.
4 streets (1,2,3,4.5,6.5,10,15,23,34,51,77,115), 5 streets (1,2,3,6,10,17,30,51,88,150,258,443). 6 streets Martingale.
Most hits will occur from 1 - 4 spins, odd occasions will run to 6 & 8 with the highest so far experienced being an 11, so it has not failed "yet".
Conditions:
1. Track for 24, bet selection should be 4, 5 or 6 streets, stop on a win and spin 36 spins out, before retracking.
2. I have noticed 3 selections come up in 24 spins, i have not tested it enough to bet the 3 for 12 spins, but have made note that they do hit during the 12 spins.
3. Use common sence, if your 4 street selection is confined to one dozen, rather retrack.
4. Some cases you will need to draw a selection out, by tracking past 24 spins. Don't go further than 28, if you have no selection by 29, spin out 36 and retrack.
Guys, i honestly don't know if it will tank, it's roulette, so it probably will, but to give you an idea over the 2 casino's being played, i have managed to make $307.00, with $0.10 bet unit = 3070 units, average win 12 units per 36 spins, so it has been through (i may be wrong) 9210 spins so far, live real money RNG.....
Please though, test before you use it.
I am currently putting it through 386340 spins from Spielbank through RX, which will probably take a year to do, but i have to see how far it will go. I will post results every 10000 spins. RNG & Actuals from Spielbank show the same results so far, so i am sure it can be used on the Live wheel aswell.
Let me know how testing goes..
my humble opinion again.
RNG = Slot Machines Luck.
hehe :-) Play on Live Wheels
BobbyBobby
Quote from: MXkid77 on October 06, 2008, 07:59:13 AM
I am currently putting it through 386340 spins from Spielbank through RX, which will probably take a year to do, but I have to see how far it will go. I will post results every 10000 spins. RNG & Actuals from Spielbank show the same results so far, so I am sure it can be used on the Live wheel aswell.
Let me know how testing goes..
Hey Kid,
You must be one dedicated guy to test the system for a full year..you have my support, will test out the system myself (but nowhere close to your numbers :P)..please do keep posting frequent results as it would be very interesting to see..
MD 8)
A good system. I have won using this about 4/5 times. I changed the betting progression to 1.1.2.4.6 and then I bail out. Another way was I bet on the individual numbers in the streets. I tend to stop playing when there are 3 streets left rather than 2. Then log off and play again later. I was caught out once when there was 3 streets left and is why I stop at 3. But most of the time it works. And i like it a lot. Cheers for sharing this.
played this for a while now but favour the grind and stick with the 5 streets only.
takes a bit longer to get where I'm going but I'm in no rush !
Unfortunately as with any of these systems it is the "bet selection" that is the problem.
Mechanical bet selection will lose with any system, end of story. If you would insist on using mechanical you would need to have a much much longer progression for this to win.
Roulette is completely random, sometimes it will win on the 1st step and sometimes on the 20th step of a progression. Thats just the way it is.
Quote from: hammy on September 23, 2008, 06:42:26 PM
I have revised my "single street system".
It will only involve betting on 6 ss or 5 ss throughout the session.
The betting progression for 6ss is: 1,2,5,10,20 for profit of +6,6,12,12,12
Bankroll needed is 228 units.
The betting progression for 5ss is: 1,2,4,7,12,20 for profit of +7,9,13,14,14,10
Bankroll needed is 230 units.
Step 1. Track ss hits until there are 6 ss that have not hit.
Step 2. Bet on those 6 ss that have not hit with progression above.
Step 3. Now bet on the 5 ss that have not hit with progression above.
Step 4. Now bet on the 4 ss that have not hit PLUS the ss with the most hits so far with the 5 ss progression above. If there are 2 ss that are tied for the most hits bet both with the 6 ss progression.
Step 5. Now if the ss hit was one that had no hits bet on the other 3 ss that have not hit plus the 2 ss with the most hits with the 5ss progression. If the ss hit was one of the most hit ss then bet again with the same 5 ss progression. If there are 3 ss with the most hits, bet all 3 ss plus the 3 ss with no hits with the 6 ss progression.
Step 6. Stop !! you have made a nice profit. If you want to play another session, start over again tracking new ss until you have 6 ss with no hits and go to step 2. Good luck !
BTW, I have played 5 real money sessions at Roxy Palace to test this revised system and made profits of $37, $35, $37, $29, and $37. Each session only took about 7 minutes and less than 20 spins. I like the concept of using ss that have hit the most because you will find there is definitely a pattern of hot ss that hit in a short span, we may as well take advantage of this.
cheers,
hammy
Hi guys and gals, sorry I have been away for awhile (making huge money with Forex market)
Anyways, picked up again at online casino with real money and "single street" system. I have won 21 straight sessions with NO losing sessions. I now STOP after winning "Step 4", it doesn't win as much in each session BUT it IS safer ! It must lose sometime, but so far so good !
enjoy !
hammy
Hi Hammy,
Hi guys and gals, sorry I have been away for awhile (making huge money with Forex market)
Using manual trading or FapTurbo EA Robot??
Cheers, :D :)
JLP.-
Hi JLP,
yes, using FT robot and 2 others that I don't want to mention here, in case it is considered a promotion and a violation of the forum :nono:
cheers !
hammy :thumbsup:
Update,
47 straight winning sessions without a loss, had ONE session that hit on last bet of progression :yahoo:
Just withdrew $1,000 USD from one online casino, hope this doesn't kill winning streak, may have to stop playing there :blush2:
cheers !! :thumbsup:
Hamster,
betting 6ss is really an even money bet because you are betting 18#'s. So it's really no different than BR or EO etc. why don't you just wait till there are 3 ss left and bet on the 2 most hit ss? That way you are only betting on 6 numbers. Jerry Adams scammer had a system similar where you just keep betting down until you have just one ss left. Too many crashes.
cd
hammy,
used some recent spins from my trip to casino. went to 10th progression with just 5ss! :'(
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35
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cd
Hi Clothdog,
All I can say is I have played 53 sessions without a loss on RNG online casinos.
What did you mean "went to 10th progression with just 5ss" ??
I only use 6 ss with progression 1,2,5,10,20 STOP. I changed strategy to this:
1. Track until there are 6 ss not hit.
2. Now bet on the 6 ss not hit with progression.
3. After a hit, use the 5 ss not hit plus 1 ss that has most hits.
4. After a hit, use the 4 ss not hit plus 2 ss hit the most, if it was the most hit ss that was hit, play the same 6 ss.
5. After a hit STOP. That's 3 hits per session for a tidy profit.
6. Start over , tracking a new set of 6 ss.
Yes, I realize this is an even odds bet each time, but for some reason it doesn't fail like betting red/black, odd/even, high/low.
This strategy uses both sleepers and repeat ss, maybe that's why it works ? I just know so far it works, for me anyway ?
I have never used it in a real casino because you need a pencil and paper to track ss before and during each session. :blush2:
cheers :pleasantry:
hey hammy,
I meant I waited until there were 5 ss then started play. and it took 10 spins before one of the 5ss hit. I did not stop after 4th progression. wanted to see how long it took. :spiteful: I'll try your way live at the casino tomorrow.
cd
Also, try those numbers I gave you and tell me how you would have played them. thanks cobber! :thumbsup:
cd
hey CD, mate !
I tested your numbers with my newest system, only betting 6 ss progression.
I had 3 hits when the #19 came up.
Highest hit was 4th progression bet.
I must say, those numbers had alot of repeating numbers, but that can work for us in this system.
Don't bet on just 5 ss, this system works better always betting 6 ss.
Follow the steps in my above post for best results.
Also, if you get to the 5th progression, bet 5 units on zero as well.
Hey good luck at the casino ! :yahoo:
Interesting method, system, strategy, bet selection, win goal and stop loss. I will be testing on live american 00 roulette spins that I have recorded. Thank you Hammy. And congratulations on your wins. I also want to simply encourage you, that if it starts losing, PLEASE don't give back more than half of your winnings. Keep at least half, for all your hard work. Not trying to tell you what to do, but keeping half, is better than walking away with nothing, or worse yet, ending up losing half your profit. Yes, I have been there and done that in my early days, and it is a COSTLY lesson. I am sure you know, discipline, discipline, discipline.
Quote from: Learning on July 03, 2009, 12:27:35 PM
Interesting method, system, strategy, bet selection, win goal and stop loss. I will be testing on live american 00 roulette spins that I have recorded. Thank you Hammy. And congratulations on your wins. I also want to simply encourage you, that if it starts losing, PLEASE don't give back more than half of your winnings. Keep at least half, for all your hard work. Not trying to tell you what to do, but keeping half, is better than walking away with nothing, or worse yet, ending up losing half your profit. Yes, I have been there and done that in my early days, and it is a COSTLY lesson. I am sure you know, discipline, discipline, discipline.
Hey Learning, thanks for the comments.
Yes, I've been around the block a few times with roulette. I hate progression betting but if the win rate is over 90% you can actually get ahead in this game. This strategy dictates that every loss (losing the 5th progression bet) will wipe out 6 or 7 winning sessions. However, since I tweaked the strategy awhile back, I have not lost a single session. I don't play roulette much anymore so it was quite by accident that I was fooling around with this old single street game and came across this strategy that has a very high win rate. I think it is so good because it uses both sleeper streets and repeating streets, best of both worlds ..LOL. Plus it is quick, just 3 hits and STOP, this is important for playing in online casinos. So, go ahead and try it yourself, I wish you success !
cheers !
hammy
Hammy,
If i was playing $5 units, would the 6ss progression be $5-$10-$25-$50-$100 per street? sounds a bit steep.
cd
CD, yes you are right, but that's too steep for me too 8)
I only bet $1 units, so my progression is $1, $2, $5, $10, $20, total BR of $228.
If you win on the 1st bet ($1) on each street you profit $6, on the 2nd bet $2 you profit $6,
on the 3rd bet $5 you profit $12, on the 4th bet $10 you profit $12, on the 5th bet $20 you profit $12.
If I get to the 5th bet I also put $5 on the zero just in case, it lessens the pain a bit if it hits. :whistle:
So I play for 3 hits per session which profits about $24 to $30 per session.
cheers ! :biggrin:
Hammy, being that I live in the U.S. and that I FULLY believe rng casinos, read a strategy and adjust accordingly to make sure you win a some, but then lose it back and more, I will only play in a live casino. I don't know of any "live play" casinos online, that is legal for U.S. players. As I am new testing this, I have also learned to NEVER play any method, without fully testing it. It just costs too much, and too disapointing. So, everything I test roulette wise, will be on a american double zero wheel. I REALLY like what you are sharing, and I ran a few tests today, and each won with no problem. I will run a few more this weekend, and if it continues to show promise, then I will really get serious with it. Regardless, thank you for sharing your method. Regarding how you got away from roulette, I have also gotten away from baccarat at times, and found when I did, my thoughts became more relaxed, and insightful. Simply, a relaxed mind is a much clearer mind, so I would suggest that is how you came to "discover" your method. I would like to share something strictly for you, in return for your generous sharing. Being new here, I am not sure how a pm works, but, if you want to share your email address, and I will share it in a email with you. Grateful and complimentary cheers to you.
Clothdog, my humble personal opinion is the $5.00 beginning level is steep. I am sure you know how to build a bankroll, starting at the lowest level, and then go from 1.00 to 2.00 to 3.00 etc. I know it is basic, but that is ALWAYS the best, safe, and wise way to make and increase your investment, to increase your profits. I personally subscribe to the bankroll requirements of having the total amount for 5 sessions. Easy math, of 5 sessions, 230.00 each, for bankroll total of 1.150.00. I would not increase my session level betting to 2.00, until I had 2,300.00, and so forth. If at any time, I had increased my bankroll to the next level, but, fell below the prior level, my prior level session betting would take over, and I would return to the 1.00 betting level as an example. I am sure you know this.
Learning,
I sent you a PM with my email address. You will find your PM's at the top of the screen in menu bar under "My Messages".
Your advice is good to have 5 times in your BR., however for this strategy I only have 2 times, about $500 BR because it never loses, let alone losing twice in a row.
hammy :thumbsup:
Hey hammy, thank you for the email, and I will send out to you what I promised in the next two to three days. I want to practice the single street system, but I have just too much work to do. Anyway, I have two - three questions, do you play european single 0 wheel, or american 00 wheel? Also, if I am not mistaken, you are playing online rng casinos? Last question, lets say for example, one or two street bets have won, and you move the winning bet to the street that has the highest number of hits...NOW IF....another street gets the same number of hits, that your bet is on, do you move the bet to that last street that now has the same number of hits of the bet was on, or do you leave it where it is? Next question.....when another street gets MORE HITS, than the street you are betting on, do you move that bet to the street that now has more hits? Thank you my friend for your help and clairity.
@hammy
When u go up with progression is the case of play number zero?
Learning,
I always play the single zero wheel, I usually play at online casino with RNG but change around to 3 or 4 different casinos in rotation. Never play at the same casino longer than 20 minutes a day, or more than 60 minutes total in a week.
When selecting the street with the most hits, if tied pick the street that hit last.
If another street becomes hit most while in the progression, change bet to that street.
It's amazing how many times I have had the most repeating street hit twice for 2 of my 3 hits in a session.
Quote from: cekkinus on July 05, 2009, 02:33:21 PM
@hammy
When u go up with progression is the case of play number zero?
cek,
I don't understand your question ?
I only bet on the zero if I reach the last bet in progression, I put 5 units on zero.
Hammy, I haven't forgotten my promise to you. I have been working alot, and I am sorry to say I haven't had time to share with you, what I promised, but, as soon as I get a couple of hours, I wil share with you with I have. Hope you are doing well, and your winning is continuing.
Hi
Just got all five streets sleeping for 23 times, is that a record. . ?
topcat
Hey TopCat ,
You start betting at 6 streets, NOT 5 !! :nono:
Always bet 6 streets !
Go back a few posts and look at new steps of play.
cheers ! :thumbsup:
HAMMY
I played this yesterday just for fun on the wagerworks RNG casino (paddy power casino)
I only played with 20c units but I made €100, thats 500 units. Impressive to say the least.
One question for you, when you play the ss with the most hits do you change the selection mid progression. Lets say you are on the 3rd step of the progression and there is a new ss with more hits than the one you selected at the start of the progression do you change to that one or do you always keep betting the same streets until a win.
Regards
Diarmaid
Hi Diarmaid,
Nice to see you are trying this profit making system, congrats ! :yahoo:
Yes, if during the progression a ss gets more hits, switch to that ss on the next bet, but it must be MORE hits , not tied.
Another reminder when playing RNG casinos, do not play longer than 20 minutes at one sitting with this system.... :nono:
I only play 3 separate games in each session, then leave (sign off), you can always come back later for another 3 games.
I have won 75 straight games now without a loss, no brag, just fact ! .. :blush2:
Good Luck ! :thumbsup:
hammy
That's brilliant Hammy, congratz.
Thanks Shorty !
Try it ... :thumbsup:
hammy
Thank you for sharing your system Hammy. I am going to do some testing with it and get the feel for it. I will be playing it live over the weekend.
lol,
played one session this morning and had a loss, played another session just now and had a loss again. oh well, tanked like every other system.
Hi hammy,
Thank you for the nice system. I played it today at a b&m casino on their touch bet roulette. The one powered by the blower, I. e, automatic. I played for 173 spins, at 67 seconds a spin, and made a nice 349$. Never once have I been in danger. But you have to be well organised to take notes and follow the speed of the game. That roulette will spin for 34 seconds, and you have only 33 seconds to place your bets. So one has to be well organised. But to me, the system you came up with, is fantastic.
Also, which is nice, I had the time to take five 10 minutes coffee and cigarettes breaks. How about that for a beginner?
So hammy, Tanks a million for your generosity, and wish you all the best
All others,
Go ahead, try it. But stick to the rules, you won't regret it.
Jean
Ozark4
Quote from: Diarmaid on July 16, 2009, 01:24:41 PM
lol,
played one session this morning and had a loss, played another session just now and had a loss again. oh well, tanked like every other system.
NO WAY !!
you are not playing it correctly, follow the steps in my revised post !
always bet 6 single streets at a time.
Quote from: ozark4 on July 16, 2009, 04:09:00 PM
Hi hammy,
Thank you for the nice system. I played it today at a b&m casino on their touch bet roulette. The one powered by the blower, I. e, automatic. I played for 173 spins, at 67 seconds a spin, and made a nice 349$. Never once have I been in danger. But you have to be well organised to take notes and follow the speed of the game. That roulette will spin for 34 seconds, and you have only 33 seconds to place your bets. So one has to be well organised. But to me, the system you came up with, is fantastic.
Also, which is nice, I had the time to take five 10 minutes coffee and cigarettes breaks. How about that for a beginner?
So hammy, Tanks a million for your generosity, and wish you all the best
All others,
Go ahead, try it. But stick to the rules, you won't regret it.
Jean
Ozark4
Hey Jean, well done mate !
Yes you have to be organized, that's why it's good online where you can write every spin down and follow the system !
congrats !
hammy
Hi hammy,
For my part, I would'nt play online with a RNG roulette. With a manned roulette, maybe yes but no RNG.
I say this because I played with play money on several sites, the one I used most was EuroGrand Casino,
and I realised that their system is recognising the patterns you play, and after a while they put you in the
ditch. In real b&m casinos, they will let you take notes as long as you don't use a mechanical device for
computations such as a hand calculator or computer.
Some people will look at you as if you're from another planet, but at the end of the day, you'll be the one that wins.
Another thing I remarked, I discovered that the tempo of the Touchbet Roulette is aleatory. Last week I went to my
local casino on an exploratory trip, just the get the feel of it and find answers to many questions I had and on my mind,
such as speed and frequency of the roulette. So I timed it last friday and I recorded 41 seconds to place the bets and
26 seconds for the wheel to spin for a total of 67 seconds. Same as today for the lenght of the spin cycle but very different
times as for placing bets and waiting time. So if the total time for a complete cycle is always the same, we have to conclude
that the strenght of the push is less if you get more seconds to place your bets.
All this to say, that even there, you have to keep notes and organise your bets accordingly. So first thing is to check the tempo
and verify if your way of playing will support it.
So thanks again hammy and may you have a lot of winning cycles.
Jean
Ozark 4
To me there is only one religion which is universal and applies to everyone on earth, and it is the Golden Rule.
"Do onto others what you would like others do onto you"
Applying this, all the gods of every religions will be satisfied.
Thanks Jean,
I agree with you about not playing roulette on RNG online casinos.
However, for some reason this system has always beat them and it's a great feeling ! :diablo:
BUT, you must keep your sessions very short, 20 minutes max. and withdraw only small amounts at a time, keep under the radar.
I also agree with your philosophy and the universal law,the Golden Rule.
Live by the Golden Rule and you don't need a religion. Religious tags only promote predjudice against others with different religions.
Great talking with you, Jean ! :)
hammy
Quote from: hammy on July 16, 2009, 06:57:52 PM
NO WAY !!
you are not playing it correctly, follow the steps in my revised post !
always bet 6 single streets at a time.
LOL, dude, I played it exactly as you said and it failed twice.
doesn't matter, I knew it would fail eventually, everything and anything can and will happen on a roulette table.
Cheers
D
Diarmaid,
That is unbelievable dude, considering my win streak so far with this system. :blush2:
Where are YOU playing ?
Are you always this negative about beating roulette, you must always lose with your attitude ? :scratch_ones_head:
Did you play like this:
I only use 6 ss with progression 1,2,5,10,20 STOP. I changed strategy to this:
1. Track until there are 6 ss not hit.
2. Now bet on the 6 ss not hit with progression.
3. After a hit, use the 5 ss not hit plus 1 ss that has most hits.
4. After a hit, use the 4 ss not hit plus 2 ss hit the most, if it was the most hit ss that was hit, play the same 6 ss.
5. After a hit STOP. That's 3 hits per session for a tidy profit.
6. Start over , tracking a new set of 6 ss.
I think you should look for a better place to play, no kidding !
Sorry about your luck :skull:
You have my sympathy :'(
Thats the same rules you posted previously.
What attitude are you talking about, all I said was the system failed twice and thats it. Just being honest mate. :pleasantry:
I ended up being up €50 but I withdrew it before I lost it.
I have tested your system on 10,000 live spins and it fails too much for the wins to keep the BR growing.
I'll just stick to Baccarat. There is no zero to worry about.
Cheers
D
Ok, no problem !
I believe you :thumbsup:
good luck with playing baccarat... :whistle:
cheers,
hammy :D
hello again!
good to be back in the forum. Tried this system a couple of times, at my trusty automatic roulette. €0. 50 per unit, played about 6 sessions the first day, made a coupe of mistakes till I got used to it, then walked home with a cool €70. I did notice though that the progressions went further up that hammy had reported, reaching the scary fifth a coupler of times, always at the fourth step. So on the second day I restricted it to the second stage, ( 6 ss and 5+1, then start over). On the second session I got blown away at the first stage and lost €114. 114-70, net loss €44. It could just be bad luck of course, but I seem to reeach further up into the progression than hammy reported, so I wondered f there is something about RNG that makes it mor suitable for this system than a live, non crupier wheel.
any thoughts?
Keep in mind, some will lie and say they lost because they have an agenda or they lie and did not even play. Why you ask? Some are very anti-progression or anti-system and they need to get their point across at any expense. Misery loves company. If THEY cant win (roulette), no way you should be allowed to. Keep up your winning ways hammy! Ken
Is this how this forum works? I you report losses you're lying and have an agenda? I'm not anti anything or anyone. I leave that to those who hold grudges and have too much spare time. I just want some bit of cash on the side in a more fun way than a daytime job. I've risked my money, it's my responsibility. But I made a valid point. Maybe I was just unlucky. Maybe automated wheels need a different approach than RNG wheels, hardly surprising.
I was speaking in GENERAL, sorry, my mistake. I'm just saying that some people, whether its anti-progression or anti-abortion (etc) they will do/say ANYTHING to get their point across. Its sad but a FACT. Ken
Hi guys and gals,
Good to see the forum back ! :pleasantry:
Jeromin,
Sorry about your luck, I can't explain it. :scratch_ones_head:
All I can do is explain my system and my actual results I get from it.
Yes, I use it online with RGN but to me that should be a disadvantage, it should work better with live wheel ?
You should use the full 3 steps for each session because the repeating streets do hit alot of times.
cheers,
hammy :thumbsup:
No problem. I understand there are a lot of naysayers around. I'm optimistic, just don't have unlimited funds to experiment with less than optimal systems. I'll write down the numbers next time I go play some other system, maybe your sleeper street system, and check at home if hammy's system gives me any more nasty surprises or if it's sound.
The thing about roulette is, most people are either too skeptical, or too emotional about it. Virtually all players at my local casino play from their gut and lose time and again, then they're off to the ATM for some more pain. Then you have the opposite: rational naysayers. "All is random" Only it isn't. There are patterns coming out again and again. It is tricky to cash in on them, probably because we are dealing with money, the object of our strong desire, so it's tough to be disciplined. A bit like playing hard to get with a beautiful woman. It works, but it's hard to do.
Quote from: hammy on August 12, 2009, 10:55:05 AM
Hi guys and gals,
Good to see the forum back ! :pleasantry:
Jeromin,
Sorry about your luck, I can't explain it. :scratch_ones_head:
All I can do is explain my system and my actual results I get from it.
Yes, I use it online with RGN but to me that should be a disadvantage, it should work better with live wheel ?
You should use the full 3 steps for each session because the repeating streets do hit alot of times.
cheers,
hammy :thumbsup:
Hi hammy! thanks for the prompt answer. I didn't write numbers down, my bad, will make sure to post them next time. I'll test it virtually for a few days, both on Dublin Bet and Amusement City ( both Dublin based, and gambling is not even supposed to be legal in Ireland, the land of loopholes!) and get back.
"All is random" Only it isn't." >>> Well, I will say that EACH spin on its own is random. In my OPINION however, a group of those "random" numbers is the basis on which to use/create a method. Ken
Quote from: hammy on August 12, 2009, 10:55:05 AM
Hi guys and gals,
Good to see the forum back ! :pleasantry:
Jeromin,
Sorry about your luck, I can't explain it. :scratch_ones_head:
All I can do is explain my system and my actual results I get from it.
Yes, I use it online with RGN but to me that should be a disadvantage, it should work better with live wheel ?
You should use the full 3 steps for each session because the repeating streets do hit alot of times.
cheers,
hammy :thumbsup:
I'll give it another shot tomorrow. But come think of it, it should not be so surprising that, covering 18 numbers, and regardless of previous spins, none show up in the next 5 spins. We're talking 18 numbers here, not 25 or 30. All you need is a number to come up three times in a row, and that's 3/5th of the progression blown off. That's why I suspect there something about the pseudo random number generation algorithm that plays to this system's advantage. Nevertheless I'll try it some more. Plain bad luck cannot be excluded.
Just tested it with kewl results and some high risk progressions. I don't know how to make a table as I can't figure out the functions but here I go =/
The numbers mean the number of bets placed before hitting.
Session Bet1 Bet2 Bet3
1 2 1 1 +18
2 2 1 2 +18
3 2 1 2 +18
4 2 1 1 +18
5 1 4 1 +18
6 3 3 2 +18
Profit of +108 units and the largest dragdown was of -90 units at S5, B2...kinda a scary progression...
Will keep testing later with goals of +100 units and stop loss of -100 units.
nice one J_G !
What casino were you testing at, what type of wheel ?
cheers ! :thumbsup:
Thx hammy, I'm still testing at Casino del Rio, playtech, european roulette (aka roulette pro), RNG.
More results:
7 1 1 2 +18
8 2 5L -180
9 2 2 3 +18
10 1 1 2 +18
11 1 1 1 +18
12 2 1 3 +18 -90
13 1 1 1 +18
14 1 1 2 +18
15 4 2 1 +18
16 2 2 1 +18
17 1 3 1 +18
18 1 2 1 +18 +108
19 1 1 1 +18
20 1 1 1 +18
21 1 1 1 +18
22 1 1 3 +18
23 5 6 1 +18
24 1 2 1 +18 +108
You can note that in session 23 I could've reported a loss, but decided to keep going and won at the 6th progression betting 378 units. Like I said, kinda scary progression :s
Btw, did you read my PM hammy? :)
Hi J_G,
Yes, you had a couple of scary sessions, I wouldn't recommend going past 5th progression , take the loss, you will recover it with this system.
Still you won 22 of 24 games, you will do even better than that, I have gone over 50 games without a loss.
good luck ! :thumbsup:
Hammy.....hows your system going on.....are u winning?
Quote from: VICLIMKS on August 24, 2009, 01:26:13 PM
Hammy.....hows your system going on.....are u winning?
I don't play roulette much anymore, however whenever I play I use this system because it wins. It's not very exciting, you have to track the streets, BUT IT WINS !!
You are welcome to use it, good luck ! :thumbsup:
Quote from: Just_Gabe on August 15, 2009, 02:50:24 PM
Just tested it with kewl results and some high risk progressions. I don't know how to make a table as I can't figure out the functions but here I go =/
The numbers mean the number of bets placed before hitting.
Session Bet1 Bet2 Bet3
1 2 1 1 +18
2 2 1 2 +18
3 2 1 2 +18
4 2 1 1 +18
5 1 4 1 +18
6 3 3 2 +18
Profit of +108 units and the largest dragdown was of -90 units at S5, B2...kinda a scary progression...
Will keep testing later with goals of +100 units and stop loss of -100 units.
This doesn't have to do with this thread as a whole, I just wanted to let Gabe in on the secret of how to make a chart.
I remember the day I learned how to do it...I spent about 20 minutes trying to figure it out.
You simply seperate each input that goes into the chart with a common seperator (a comma, a space, a period, the number 8, whatever)
For example, your chart above would look like this if I used a comma as the common seperating value:
session, bet1, bet2, bet3
1,2,1,1
2,2,1,2
and so on...
Then, you highlight the data you want in the chart and the click on "insert table" (it is the sixth button to the right on the second row of buttons. It looks like a blank Tic-Tac-Toe chart)
Then, you'll see "[ table ]" at the beginning of the highlighted data and [/table] at the end.
You then simply put =(insert seperating value here) after table, like this:
"[ table=, ]" (remove the spaces) There is a comma after the = sign because that was the seperating value I used while making my "chart of data".
When you submit your message, you'll end up with this:
[table=,]session, bet1, bet2, bet3
1,2,1,1
2,2,1,2[/table]
Hammy,your total units izit 228units n will it win in long term? :)
Hey guys, this is not rocket science ! Let's not make something simple into difficult .. :whistle:
The progression is 1,2,4,8,16 on 6 single streets.
The profit is +6 on every hit.
The total risk is 186 units.
You will play 3 games in each session and win 18 units.
That's it !... :dance1:
Hi All
I am pretty new to this forum so please bear with me.
Hammy I would love to give this system a try but am still coming to terms with the terminolgy. Is a "ss" a line of three numbers ie. 1,2,3 or 34,35,36 etc. .
If so when you say you are looking for 6xss are you looking/waiting for 6 individual lines that have not come up in x amount of spins or is it the opposite, looking for the lines that have. Then over how many spins do you determine which ever it is.
I downloaded the magic strrets programme from the memebers forum, but unless you understand the basics of ss's I am not sure what I am looking at.
Not really a dummy but just need a few pointers.
Thanks
this is no good system sori hampy i lose 2 shirts here :angry2:
Ok DOC, yes a single street (ss) is on the roulette table layout as 1,2,3 or 34,35,36 or 7,8,9 three numbers together in a row. You bet on a ss by laying your chip beside the row.
You track these ss's that have hit until there are 6 ss's that HAVE NOT hit.
Start progression betting on these 6 ss. that have not hit. , etc. as per my latest post of revised system.
hope you understand now ?
good luck :good:
Quote from: ozFriIzby on September 05, 2009, 10:12:31 AM
this is no good system sori hampy I lose 2 shirts here :angry2:
ozFriIzby,
sorry about your bad luck, don't blame the system ! :nono:
you should be betting with chips, not shirts ! :sarcastic:
that is ok hampy but my system is the onli sytem that is winid system
Thanks Hammy
I have figured most of it out. The onlt question left is at what point do you determine 6 unhit ss's. If after 10 spins you will have at least 6 ss, but after 30 spins you will have far less. So how do you calculate over how many spins is the optimum to determine 6 ss.
If for example by spin 10 I have 8 ss, then with added spins this number will get less, do I then start when it hits 6, or do you take a preset determined no. of spins ie.40 and then say ok lets input the data and wait for 6 ss's.
DOC, you spin as many times it takes to leave 6 different streets that have NOT hit. It only takes about 6 to 10 spins for this. Then bet on these 6 unhit streets.
Hammy just to give you soem feedback.
I took your streets system and altered it slightly by placing bets on the unhit six streets. If I lost I would go progressive 1,2,5,10,20. If I hit I would keep all the bets where they were and revert back to 1 units again, then keep going until I won 3 times then back out and start tracking again.
Opened accounts with 5 online casinos and started each with 230 Euro BR. Once I had won over 30 Euro I would stop and play elsewhere. Only played maximum 2 times a day at any casino. Within a short time I was 600 Euro up all together, then I noticed the anamoly start to kick in with all the casinos almost simultaneously. It was as if the programme had figured out what I was doing and started to eat away at my winnings. Within 1 day I was back even with all 5 casinos.
BIG LESSON learned here - DO NOT PLAY ONLINE ROULETTE
By and large the system works nicely as long as you're not too greedy and take your small winnings and RUN...
Thanks for the feedback DOC,
Yes, you must keep sessions short, plus I never play at the same casinos 2 days in a row, maybe only 3 times a week, only 1 session a day.
You will get better results by replacing the original unhit streets that hit with a street that has most hits, just the way it works ? :scratch_ones_head:
Important to quit after 3 hits in a session. Sometimes I double my wagers but play only 2 hits in a session, then quit.
cheers,
hammy :thumbsup:
Quote from: DOC link=topic=3378. msg78193#msg78193 date=1253124431
Hammy just to give you soem feedback.
I took your streets system and altered it slightly by placing bets on the unhit six streets. If I lost I would go progressive 1,2,5,10,20. If I hit I would keep all the bets where they were and revert back to 1 units again, then keep going until I won 3 times then back out and start tracking again.
Opened accounts with 5 online casinos and started each with 230 Euro BR. Once I had won over 30 Euro I would stop and play elsewhere. Only played maximum 2 times a day at any casino. Within a short time I was 600 Euro up all together, then I noticed the anamoly start to kick in with all the casinos almost simultaneously. It was as if the programme had figured out what I was doing and started to eat away at my winnings. Within 1 day I was back even with all 5 casinos.
BIG LESSON learned here - DO NOT PLAY ONLINE ROULETTE
By and large the system works nicely as long as you're not too greedy and take your small winnings and RUN. . .
yes that is the normal case with online roulette
Thanks for sharing Hammy. I appreciate the amount of time and work it takes to implement and test consistently, and show your findings, that goes to everyone across the board. The RNG in most online casino's does seem a little too intuitive for any long-term success with any one system. . . having scaled it back to 6ss, for a short course at least, this system works a treat! I've yet to experience any
:)
I do have a question. Whether I need a certain number of posts to qualify, I'm not sure. I'd like to download the 'Magic Streets' tracker, but am greeting with a '404 attachment not found' page when trying to grab it. This goes for every download. . . any thoughts?
Good fortunes.
Jack
Hammy how is doing Forex, especially Fap Turbo?
Cheers Hermes
Hi hermes,
Forex is doing very well, thanks ! .. :clapping: It's not as dependent on lady luck as roulette.
I do not play roulette anymore, but do visit here to see how everyone is doing.
Last time I played roulette I was betting on dozens and dozen 1 slept for 16 spins in a row ... stupid.. :diablo:
cheers !
Hey Hammy.. so you don't play roulette anymore?
that's good choice... i think i hear football bet is pretty solid way to win....
well, have you played Steven Morgan's Dozen system? it seems pretty solid
thanks Joker,
My single street system is solid too, but I have learned no matter how solid your systems are, roulette will sooner or later deal you a losing session or two that wipes out alot of hard earned profits, even with good money management. I still toy around with roulette but don't have the time for it as before, you will not get rich long term playing roulette or any casino games. If it's entertainment you want, it certainly has it's price, and that's fine !
cheers,
hammy :thumbsup:
you learned nicely... only person who became rich is someone who hit jackpot....
do you think physic of roulette will win?
Small wins in roulette do add up but the possibility of a jackpot lies with my facorite backup game : Full pay 9/6 Video poker :yahoo:
.
Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!
Quote from: hammy link=topic=3378. msg21220#msg21220 date=1221513274
Hi guys , sorry to be away so long. I've been away from roulette for awhile playng the horses and doing quite well actually. But 2 weeks ago I was playing around with roulette and a single street system that wins almost every time, I don't know why but it does. You have probably seen similar systems but maybe not exactly the way I play it, here goes !
1. Start tracking hits to a single street (ss) until there are 5 ss's that have not had a hit. Bet on these 5 ss with progression 1,2,4,7,12,20 (230 units) you will usually get a hit before the 3rd bet. Average win is 10 units.
2. Now bet on the 4 remaining ss that have not had a hit with progression 1,2,3,5,7,11,16 (180 units) again you will get a hit very quickly. Average win is 12 units, total 22 units so far.
3. Now bet on the remaining 3 ss that have not had a hit with progression 2,3,4,5,7,9,12,16,22 (240 units) average win is 20 units, total 42 units.
4. Stop ! If you want you can start a new session by tracking again from the beginning.
As you are well aware, a ss can sleep a long time but not 3 ss, so I think that is why this works almost every time. In 2 weeks, I have seen it fail once out of about 44 sessions, so it makes serious profits. This made me think of you guys here in the forum so I came to post this for you all to try. BTW, it even works with RGN online casinos which is what I usually play. Have fun and GOOD LUCK !!
cheers !
hammy
:)Thanks hammy,I used your system since yesterday,I found it was good. I will change my present system i. e. bet r or b martingale,because very killing when in the state of unlucky. Your system win a little by little almost continously,only failed 3 times among so many session.
Hi bakonlin, you are very welcome to my system, however if you look back a few posts you will see that I changed it a little and I think it works better, safer too, here is the update:
I always bet 6 ss with progression 1,2,5,10,20 STOP. I changed strategy to this:
1. Track until there are 6 ss not hit.
2. Now bet on the 6 ss not hit with progression.
3. After a hit, use the 5 ss not hit plus 1 ss that has most hits.
4. After a hit STOP. That's 2 hits per session for a tidy profit.
5. Start over , tracking a new set of 6 ss.
You can also play for a 3rd hit but I like to start over with new set of 6 unhit streets.
good luck !
Thanks Hammy. I will also use your changing system and give a report.
Quote from: hammy on November 09, 2009, 02:07:13 PM
Hi bakonlin, you are very welcome to my system, however if you look back a few posts you will see that I changed it a little and I think it works better, safer too, here is the update:
I always bet 6 ss with progression 1,2,5,10,20 STOP. I changed strategy to this:
1. Track until there are 6 ss not hit.
2. Now bet on the 6 ss not hit with progression.
3. After a hit, use the 5 ss not hit plus 1 ss that has most hits.
4. After a hit STOP. That's 2 hits per session for a tidy profit.
5. Start over , tracking a new set of 6 ss.
You can also play for a 3rd hit but I like to start over with new set of 6 unhit streets.
good luck !
:)
Long battle about the streets.
I am thinking of combining the hammy's with Ales system. Bet 6ss, 5ss and 4ss as hammy said and then turn around to bet the streets which came 2 times in 12 spins. It could be 3 streets, 2 streets or only one street.When there is more streets showing up than 3 streets coming twice in 12 spins than discharge the game and start from scratch. You will be not dependable to bet the risky 3ss sleepers.
Ciao Hermes
Quote from: bakonlin link=topic=3378. msg84072#msg84072 date=1257815746
Thanks Hammy. I will also use your changing system and give a report.
:)
:-[
Sorry to tell you that the 2 casinos I used to play had noticed the system,they made the street sleeper to sleep very long time. I lost!
Now I go back to the previous pattern way ,martingaling,offcourse I must be lucky to win,this is gambling ,for the last 4 weeks still ahead,with sweat and great heart palpitation.
Bakonlin, why do you play on RNGs? I don't understand your gambling professionalism. They can do nothing on live wheel, only cut the wire (online :diablo:).
Hermes
Quote from: hermes link=topic=3378. msg84752#msg84752 date=1258236210
Bakonlin, why do you play on RNGs? I don't understand your gambling professionalism. They can do nothing on live wheel, only cut the wire (online :diablo:).
Hermes
The main reason is the internet provider here is not stable and very slow,to enable playing live game the I. P. must be quite high speed.
I played the RNG more than 2 years,during this period I had been familiar with this one,get a certain feeling that if a certain pattern appeared,the next colour will be red or black,can be wrong,just a feeling.
Hammy congrats and thanks for posting such an easy system and a winning 1 as well Hammy the bit that scares me and its a what if say the betting progs. goes the hole way and all lines go into a verry deep sleep is there any way to recover any ideas on that Thanks for reading Colin.
Colin, good question :thumbsup:
I play usually 2 quick sessions and get out with about 30-36 unit profit.
Now, if you happened to lose a session with prog, 1,2,5,10,20 you lose 228 units.
I can recover that loss with about 6 or 7 double sessions, however, my record playing this system is only 2 losses every 50 sessions or 25 double sessions, so you see, you are well in profit.
In other words , it is very rare for 6 single streets to all sleep at the same time. :whistle:
This is the way you should be playing now:
1. Track until there are 6 ss not hit.
2. Now bet on the 6 ss not hit with progression.
3. After a hit, use the 5 ss not hit plus 1 ss that has most hits.
4. After a hit STOP. That's 2 hits per session for a tidy profit.
5. Start over , tracking a new set of 6 ss.
I usually play only 2 sessions with RNG and get out, if you play again that day go to a different casino, don't play more than 3 times per week at the same online casino.
good luck !
interesting
did anybody out here ever tried to only plays to win 2 ss lines, instead of winning 3/sessions?
maybe that will really cut the loss.
I mean i know that instead of winning 18 units u might just come up with +12 units, but maybe might be way less risky, and still very profitable.
what u guys think?
will try it out this weekend when i go to the casino.
wish me luck
Incomeraise, lesson #1 = never trust what your greed is telling you! You would be often on the loser list.
Hermes
actually, quite the contrary, i wasnt trying to be greedy at all, i was just saying instead of winning 18 units/ sessions why just not try to win 12 units/session which will mean only get 2 ss/session instead of 3.
Not sure what u meant. am just trying to be less risky and less greedy, and was wondering what do people think about it
HAMMY thank you for reading my post and thanks for being good enough to answer me ,do Keep'HER Lit .Colin
Hammy,
If you have a hit on your first spin and all ss have only hit once how do you select your next streets to bet?
In that case, just leave the same bets in place and spin again, you will either win again or have a ss hit twice, so move the next bet to that ss.
cheers !
Quote from: incomeraise on November 25, 2009, 09:22:27 PM
did anybody out here ever tried to only plays to win 2 ss lines, instead of winning 3/sessions?
maybe that will really cut the loss.
I mean I know that instead of winning 18 units u might just come up with +12 units, but maybe might be way less risky, and still very profitable.
what u guys think?
will try it out this weekend when I go to the casino.
wish me luck
The system IS to play only 2 hits per session and play only 2 sessions per casino visit ... :whistle:
I'm not sure what you are saying that is different than this ??
Hammy is saying exactly that: go for 2 wins and 2 session no more, in one casino.
Hermes
Have been running test from 00 live wheel. Just want to make sure I am applying the method correctly. I saw many different progressions in the post. I picked to use 1,2,4,8,16 with 6 streets as the loss is only 184.
Here is my first session
# Street Streets Left Bet W/L Session W/L
4 2 1 x 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
2 1 x x 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
1 1 x x 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
22 8 x x 3 4 5 6 7 x 9 10 11 12
22 8 x x 3 4 5 6 7 x 9 10 11 12
15 5 x x 3 4 x 6 7 x 9 10 11 12
33 11 x x 3 4 x 6 7 x 9 10 x 12
26 9 x x 3 4 x 6 7 x x 10 x 12
19 7 x x 3 4 x 6 7 x x 10 x 12 6 +6
11 4 *x x 3 4 x 6 x 8 x 10 x 12 6 +6
4 2 ** 1 x 3 x x 6 x 8 x 10 x 12 6 -6
5 2 ** 1 x 3 x x 6 x 8 x 10 x 12 12 -12
22 8 ** 1 x 3 x x 6 x 8 x 10 x 12 24 +6 +18
* Street 7 won and is crossed off. Street 8 has shown twice and becomes a betting street.
** Street 4 won and is crossed off. Street 1 has shown twice and becomes a betting street.
Please let me know if I have a grip on the method.
Thanks
Phishalot
So how are the tests going now hammy?
Phishalot,
Yes, you got it !! :yahoo:
I now play for only 2 hits and stop. My progression of 1,2,5,10,20 gives me +12 units on last 3 bets instead of +6.
But even +12 units for 2 hits is enough for me, then I play one more game and quit for that session.
PS: try to find a single zero wheel to play this.
cheers ! .. :thumbsup:
Quote from: Jish on December 02, 2009, 10:03:48 PM
So how are the tests going now hammy?
Testing has been over for many years, taking real money out of casino with this system.
PS: try to find a single zero wheel to play this. :thumbsup:
Quote from: hammy link=topic=3378. msg87739#msg87739 date=1259852999
Testing has been over for many years, taking real money out of casino with this system.
PS: try to find a single zero wheel to play this. :thumbsup:
You are speaking for a rng roulette right?
What if we'll make first two bets"virtually"?
Like 0,0,1,2,5,10,20
This will give us more advantage, because we'll increase our progression in 2 steps
I mean looks like we can make this system to system, that never loses, rigth?
More tracking required, of course. But it's more safe. What do you think, guys? ::)
Quote from: hammy link=topic=3378. msg87738#msg87738 date=1259852722
I play one more game and quit for that session.
You mean that you are changing the system or that you are stopping to play roulette from that casino?
Quote from: Mike.OFF on December 03, 2009, 11:45:28 PM
What if we'll make first two bets"virtually"?
Like 0,0,1,2,5,10,20
This will give us more advantage, because we'll increase our progression in 2 steps
I mean looks like we can make this system to system, that never loses, rigth?
More tracking required, of course. But it's more safe. What do you think, guys? ::)
Not sure what you gain Mike ?
What if those virtual (0) bets hit on one of the 6 ss that were unhit, now we are down to 5 or 4 unhit ss ?
Usually one of the 6 unhit ss does hit on the first 2 spins.
Quote from: geldwer on December 04, 2009, 02:18:13 PM
You mean that you are changing the system or that you are stopping to play roulette from that casino?
geldwer,
yes, this is online RNG casino, and no I'm not changing the system, I'm stopping (logging off) from that casino for the day. In fact don't play at any online casino more than 3 times a week. Go to a different casino if you want to play more that day. Keep your online sessions 10 minutes or less, otherwise RNG will chew you up and spit you out in little pieces.
cheers ! ... :thumbsup:
Can someone code this system in RX and post the graph here, please? :blush2:
Has anyone played this method against the rng machines in the casinos?
I have played it on rng . To play it on rng is suicide if you play more than a few games rng (robbing number generator) will light up the un-betted streets. All the rng needs to do is scan which bets are made and then using a simple circuit it will light up un-betted streets. Thats if the rng as detected any wins of course , the rng likes to take back winnings as fast as possible.
Another disadvantage of RNGs is that they do more repeat numbers and this strategy is playing on opposite side - on sleepers! Accompany with the LIFE not with the DEAD. Make a systems for repeaters and you will be for short time better with RNGs (but not for long, only until casino software adjustment). Some people never grow up, they always hit the wall (rng) with the head. Patience is missing and greed is consuming the whole person's mind not to wait for the dealer's turn. And exactly patience is the first commandment for being successful in gambling, greedless is the second.
Gambling is a tough job, don't underestimate it because that one :diablo: is waiting for your mistakes.
Cheers Hermes
Some very wise conclusions in the last 2 posts ... 8)
That's why I don't play roulette much anymore, or any casino games. :nono:
cheers ! .. ;)
How are you Hammy I would like 2 ask you just 1 ? and i am not being a smart a**e and never will .Why do you play RNGs rather than the live wheel have you found honest casinos if so where do you play at .Hammy Good Health & Good Luck at what ever you are at .Cheers and Merry XMAS Colin
So i see that rx code hasnt been done for this?
Quote from: Colin on December 05, 2009, 07:47:20 AM
How are you Hammy I would like 2 ask you just 1 ? and I am not being a smart a**e and never will .Why do you play RNGs rather than the live wheel have you found honest casinos if so where do you play at .Hammy Good Health & Good Luck at what ever you are at .Cheers and Merry XMAS Colin
Hi Colin,
A fair question, I play RNG at online casinos just because it's convenient, by "live wheel" I assume you mean at a real casino, not an online casino ? If you mean those online wheels that they say are "live" I don't believe it ! They are also RNG, but they want you to think they are live. No, there are no "honest" casinos but we know that, we know the risks when we put our money down. That's the nature of the beast, but we all keep coming back for more punishment, ooops sorry , entertainment !
:sarcastic: Merry Christmas to you Colin, and Good Luck .. :thumbsup:
Hi hammy,
this system would work even better if you'd play with the WHEEL streets(not the table ones),like in the kimo li 3x12 european roulette matrix and using live wheels - no sleeping streets though,only the ones that hit the most. It would definitely require higher starting stakes,but It's way safer.. playing sleepers is always a dangerous thing in roulette,many burned their fingers by playing in that way!
cheers
Quote from: win3milion@inmydreams.com on December 05, 2009, 12:08:20 PM
Hi hammy,
this system would work even better if you'd play with the WHEEL streets(not the table ones),like in the kimo li 3x12 european roulette matrix and using live wheels - no sleeping streets though,only the ones that hit the most. It would definitely require higher starting stakes,but It's way safer.. playing sleepers is always a dangerous thing in roulette,many burned their fingers by playing in that way!
cheers
Hi, you bring an interesting concept. I will take a look at it, thanks !
BTW : my ss system only looks for 6 sleepers for the first hit, then adds the ss with the most hits into the mix, so it uses both strategies. You won't find 6 ss sleeping at the same time for over 12 spins any more than 1 in 50 times, I like those odds !
cheers ! .. :thumbsup:
I have a question here.
The system is: wait. . . .
but free spins without betting is now allowed???
how do I wait for 6 streets, when the game doesnt allow me to spin without betting??
I've tried many, but it isn't allowed, and if it is allowed, it is allowed only 1-2 free spins.
What do I do? How did u bet on this system?
And the live casino (online) rejects you if you don't bet for 5-6 times.
Quote from: JayEm on April 16, 2010, 09:59:23 AM
I have a question here.
The system is: wait. . . .
but free spins without betting is now allowed???
how do I wait for 6 streets, when the game doesn't allow me to spin without betting??
I've tried many, but it isn't allowed, and if it is allowed, it is allowed only 1-2 free spins.
What do I do? How did u bet on this system?
And the live casino (online) rejects you if you don't bet for 5-6 times.
Where do you play at ? there are plenty of casinos that allow empty spins ? In fact, the ones that disallow it are a minority.
BTW let's start retesting this latest hammy's system mod. I see great potential.
QuoteWhere do you play at ? there are plenty of casinos that allow empty spins ? In fact, the ones that disallow it are a minority.
Well. . . I play at betvoyager and expekt, i've also tried others. . .
suggest me some that allow empty spins pls??
rng or live ? My preferences are smartlive autowheel and bet365 for live and unibet rng.