After you get ahead $5 or more then go home

[MR_Martingale]

When you go to the casino and as soon as you get ahead $5 or more you go home. Then how many times in a row do you think you could win?

Martingale players could probably win at least 500 times in a row huh?

I can't remember the last time I went to a casino and never gotten ahead at least $5 at some point in time that day.

Hit and run is the only way to beat a casino!
Get ahead take the money and run!

There is no other way to beat a Casino!

MM

[Boo_Ray]

Hit and run is the only way to beat a casino!
Get ahead take the money and run!

There is no other way to beat a Casino!

I disagree, If you chart tables and wait for good wawes to come.. You can beat casino.. Actuly you can hit that do virtual run but actualy chart and see what is gooing on and then do another hit and repeat that again.. But you have to wait and be cool

[Talesman]

Since $5 is a single betting unit at the tables, I'd have to say it would be never-ending for me.  That is assuming I quit the moment I made that one unit.

But for me to leave after driving 9 hours to get there just isn't practical. 

Truthfully, in all the years I have gone casino hopping I cannot remember one instance where I was not ahead by a unit at some point in time.  Even my wife, who strictly plays the slots, would have to say that as well.  I'll use a dollar for her as all she plays is $.25, $.50 and $1 machines.

[JHM]

I really think it doesn't matter. If you have bad luck you come in 1,2,3 maybe 4 or more times and you will lose. If you have the luck on you side maybe you will win hundreds of times.

I was testing a new system. Awesome, was + 900 in 55 turns of play. Than lost 420. Quitted. Day later played again, another session from hell -420. Day after that played again and lost again -420. I mean, anything can happen.

[Talesman]

JHM you are so ever correct!!!

Every session is different. 

Now that you know it loses the trick is to anticipate the loss and tweak what you can to avoid or reduce. Even if that means a possible reduction of profits for a successful session.

My definition of success is NOT LOSING.  That should be THE paramount goal for any plan.  As Perry B (who haunts the LTW forum) is fond of saying: "control your losses the wins will take care of themselves."  Very true.

All I will have lost are those few minutes or hours of my playing time.  I'll never recoup the time but I will gain profit another time.  I did gain experience, if you can call it that.  All-in-all, playing at the casinos sure beats watching re-runs on the TV.

[Spike]

My definition of success is NOT LOSING. >>>

I call it breaking even. Win, break even. Win, break even. Go home.

[lucky_strike]

Exactly, win and break even, more then you hit your loss limit.

Cheers LS

[Talesman]

As the old gambling adage goes: "I hope I break even today...I need the money!"

[bliss]

Either your method gives you an edge or it doesn't.

If it does, then you want to bet as often as possible and for as long as possible (like the casinos do).

If it doesn't, then you shouldn't be betting at all.

Everyone wants to complicate it, but it's really as simple as that. To determine when to leave or continue based on what you've won or lost is illogical in the extreme, and that's putting it politely. If your system is a winner then all you're doing by stopping at your target is to reduce your profits. If the system is a loser then stopping after predetermined losses is only going to postpone the inevitable disaster, like the man re-arranging the deckchairs on the Titanic. 

In short, Hit & Run doesn't work.

[ChickenDinner]

Either your method gives you an edge or it doesn't.

If it does, then you want to bet as often as possible and for as long as possible (like the casinos do).

Sorry Bliss, but you've got it wrong here mate. If your system is sound, you certainly want to bet as often as possible; but you don't want to bet as long as possible.

The only method that gives you a winning edge gives you that edge because you constantly have to adjust your game to whatever the wheel throws at you, and this requires a lot of skill, patients and hard work. Good players know that however reliable their system is, they will sometimes encounter very long dispersions; and when this happens, they will be reducing their bets and re-adjusting their methods. In which case, they will often have to play a session for much longer than usual as they ride out the dispersion and wait for the hits to start coming. This is why it's best to leave after hitting your target. You never know when you're gonna run into a dispersion. Some days your system will win easily for you and you'll take your profit with hardly any effort whatsoever. Other days you're gonna have to really work hard for it and from my experience this can be mentally and physically exhausting. After a real grind of a session, the last thing you want is to play another session straight after. Why risk running into another dispersion? Why risk having to play for another 2 hours or more? The player is likely to make mistakes due to tiredness and frustration. I'd rather leave the casino, and be fresh for my next session on another day. Humans are not machines who can just keep playing like robots. Those who do are the losers that fill the casinos' pockets.

Of course if there was a HG system out there, which there isn't, you could just play like a robot and always win...

CD

[bliss]

CD, what you are describing is gambling, pure and simple.  If you are constantly having to adjust your game then you're relying on luck, not a calculated and researched real advantage.

You never know when you're gonna run into a dispersion

Correct, but that dispersion could be positive or negative. The only reason you choose to anticipate a dispersion as negative is because you have no edge.

Of course take a break or go home if you're tired - I didn't mean you should play like a robot. But to to set win targets and loss limits in the hope that they will somehow enable you to tiptoe around the house edge is futile. It's easy to write a computer simulation to prove this if you're not convinced by the logic, Turbo has done a lot of research on this, ask him.

I'm not trying to persuade anyone to change the way they play if that's what they enjoy, but don't kid yourself it's making any difference to your profits.

[ChickenDinner]

Believe me, I understand where you are coming from. But my bank balance says we are just gonna have to agree to disagree on this one mate. I've played too many sessions for it to be pure luck. But if I do start losing more than I'm winning, I'll be the first to admit that I was wrong...

[Spike]

 But to to set win targets and loss limits in the hope that they will somehow enable you to tiptoe around the house edge is futile.>>>

Nobody that I know sets a win or loss limit in the hopes that it will beat or avoid the house edge. I have a win goal because thats how much I want to win that day in the time frame I have to play in. It has to be reasonable and do-able, but it has nothing whatsoever to do with beating the house edge. It has everything to do with my skill at the game.

[gizmotron]

I agree, it's your session skills and your bet selections at each spin that make all the difference.

BTW, that opposite crud I mentioned doesn't work because I can't stop looking at the good opportunities for most spins.

[gizmotron]

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