Since roulette can't be beaten................

[ReDsQuaD]

ND was right. This is pointless.

Age is irrelevant. All that ever matters is discovering the real true facts, early age or not. The reality is im laughing at you Because guys like you spent there whole life trying to beat this game or believing they can beat it with some stupid colum/dozen system. Where as me, i spent a few years trying to find out what was what, and i found out...

You are in your sixties... and i am in my twentys hahah  Who's the fool? You my friend.

[cheese]

Well not really. Again how can I put it, roulette is not random. My head hurts.

Saying roulette is not random is meaningless without proof.
I know for a FACT that its random because I cannot beat
non random results. You can't beat either random or non
random so your opinion means nothing.

[cheese]

I spent a few years trying to find out what was what, and I found out...

You haven't found shit. You're in your 20's? I would have
thought you were still in grade school from the quality of
your posts and the constant insults you hurl at everybody
here.

[ReDsQuaD]

Saying roulette is not random is meaningless without proof.
I know for a FACT that its random because I cannot beat
non random results. You can't beat either random or non
random so your opinion means nothing.

Correction - YOU cant, but others can. But yes i agree on that random result cant be beaten. That's obvious! to say the least.

There is a great difference between opinion and fact. Your following statement is an opinion, where as my post are facts.
It is not my problem that people cant be bothered to do there own research or ad least look at what is put in front of them.

"Without proof" Well how many times have I posted here about advantage play? Honestly, do you think im making it all up for the fun of it? If you don't want to take my word for it then all I can suggest is do your own research. I know you won't, but will continue to ask for proof etc. That's plain ignorant.

[ReDsQuaD]

You haven't found shit. You're in your 20's? I would have
thought you were still in grade school from the quality of
your posts and the constant insults you hurl at everybody
here.

Hey, i am not the one who spends my life on forums posting invalid bullshit that means nothing! My posts actually mean something, they are facts, weather you believe it or not.

I do not wish to hurl at anybody, but it seems when i post facts, i get attacked for it. All you care about is your pride and how you want to be seen as the roulette king. The truth is irrelevant to you. When i say that roulette is not random, this goes against your method, so you panic and post a load of useless invalid information that means nothing.

[cheese]

I do not wish to hurl at anybody, but it seems when I post facts,

Oops, gotcha. I actually took the time and read
90% of your 400 posts and I never saw any
facts at all. Just statements without anything
to back them up and lots and I mean LOTS
of personal attacks when somebody disagrees
with you.
   Lets have some of those 'facts' you say you
presented. You do know the difference between fact
and opinion, right?

[ReDsQuaD]

Oops, gotcha. I actually took the time and read
90% of your 400 posts and I never saw any
facts at all. Just statements without anything
to back them up and lots and I mean LOTS
of personal attacks when somebody disagrees
with you.
  Lets have some of those 'facts' you say you
presented. You do know the difference between fact
and opinion, right?

Sure, here you go :


-1873 - A guy called Joseph Jagger's recorded the outcome of spins with the help of 6 clerks on 6 roulette wheels.
Basically, he discovered on ONE of the SIX wheels, there was a clear bias to be exploited. He took the Monte Carlo for over 100 K - Hence the song "The man to break the bank at Monte Carlo" He established 9 bias numbers.



-1990 - Gonzalo Garcia-Pelayo an ex music producer, one night sat at a roulette wheel and noticed roulette was not as random as he thought it was. Gonzalo and he's family sat around 4-5 roulette wheels in casino madrid. For 2 weeks they all collected data from each wheel. Gonzalo then inputted ALL the data into a basic computer program.

The results concluded there was a very strong bias on one of the wheels.  A man of the arts who knew nothing about roulette, simply stumbled across this and reached for what was to be thought impossible.

Gonzalo and he's team, kept winning and winning until the casino banned them. How ever the court ordered that the casino had to let them play. So in the end the casino took apart each wheel and managed to kill the bias. The team then moved on and did the exact same thing all over the world.

If you want to watch the do cumentry, here it is : Breaking Vegas - The Roulette Assault 01



-2004 - The Ritz team who smashed it over 2 nights when using a roulette device to predict the outcome of a spin. Here is a short documentary about this here nolinks://nolinks.mediafire.com/?z5d4oj385qp0qpb
The team predicted the area of where the ball would land, and placed 5 numbers on that area.

[ReDsQuaD]

I just gave TWO examples of factual methods of how to beat the game. There are other variants.

[cheese]

I just gave TWO examples of factual methods of how to beat the game. There are other variants.

From these two examples of biased wheels, and using a roulette
computer, you've come to the conclusion that roulette is not a random game?

I don't mean to be insulting, but, are you insane? Seriously dude,
do some research. I can't believe I wasted this much time on a 6th
grade dropout. Never mind..........

[Nathan Detroit]

2006  The notorious " Roulette King"  within 6 weeks lost  his  EURO 2.6 million winnings from that same year at the  roulette table in Monte Carlo ,Monaco. He too  entertained the  notion   that he  could outsmart the  wheels  at a casino. Fortuna  had the last laugh because  she  is fickle and soon asks back what she has given..............................

That`s NOT ancient history but recent facts.

N.D.

P.S. This  cat was an inside player.

[mcmonaco]

-2004 - The Ritz team who smashed it over 2 nights when using a roulette device to predict the outcome of a spin. Here is a short documentary about this here nolinks://nolinks.mediafire.com/?z5d4oj385qp0qpb
The team predicted the area of where the ball would land, and placed 5 numbers on that area.
[/quote]

There was no roulette device involved but genius Niko Tosha whom I assist
in many games from 2003-2007 around EU casinos.To end the story,ever since 2008 he/we/
couldn't find suitable wheel to play in EU any more..Went to Russia,ex Russian countries,Macao and finally in Australia...lost all previous wins and last I heard of him that he went broke Down under.....which assures me today there is no place for VB players any longer.

[Nathan Detroit]

The  same  is happening to the old  guard of VB players  at the  Berlin , Germany casinos. This  from a Danish VLS  poster who stated that those  guys  are losing their shirt whille  the  younger ones who could be  their sons    are doing realtively well..


N.D.

[ReDsQuaD]

From these two examples of biased wheels, and using a roulette
computer, you've come to the conclusion that roulette is not a random game?

I don't mean to be insulting, but, are you insane? Seriously dude,
do some research. I can't believe I wasted this much time on a 6th
grade dropout. Never mind..........

Lol and what a surprise, you have an answer for everything even though you are stone dead wrong... What is it you say? "WISING UP A CHUMP IS A WASTE OF TIME AND IT JUST ANNOYS HIM ANYWAY" How rich from the man himself.

Please...

Lol you cant be serious. Wtf really? haha you must be trolling or just trying to piss me off. Cmon, no one can be this stupid. It is not possible to beat and take advantage of something that is random.. Biased wheel, that's random? LOL do you even know what a biased wheel is? If you did, you would understand very easily that roulette is not random. Ofcourse it is not.

Quote from cheese
"From these two examples of biased wheels, and using a roulette
computer, you've come to the conclusion that roulette is not a random game"

Yes! No s**t, of course that's what I am saying. Is that not obvious..? Do you really need me to tell you that?. A biased wheel, the ball is landing in certain pockets more than probability dictates. HOW IS THAT RANDOM? ITS NOT IS IT. Biased is exactly what it is, BIASED.  So how do you come to a conclusion that the results are still random on a biased wheel? You just confirmed you don't even understand what a biased wheel is.

Without wheel bias, the game is still not random, of course it is not.  Remember what I said about tilted wheels and dominant diamonds? Do you think roulette is random when you can clearly see a dominant drop zone? You just don't seem to understand this and a lot of people don't. What seems to be obvious for some people, is just not for others. But I suppose you have not been told what to evaluate to realise that roulette is not random, how ever this is your own problem for not doing any proper valid research. But really, your current statement is just ridiculous.

There is no such thing as random, every event around us happens for a reason. You obviosly do not know anything in what you are talking about. You are about as bright as an eclipse , and this is the guy who is tellin me to do research 


If you are really serious in what you just said, then there is nothing more I can say to you.
Oh and no you are not insulting me, I find there are many people like you in this industry, so I am used to it by now. Ignorant, clueless fools who insist they know best.

But the best so far is you cheese, the guy who thinks a biased wheel gives out random results. Brillient

I have nothing more to comment, everything is all very clear, you simply don't even have the basic knowledge of how roulette works. I know that is there is nothing more I can possibly say to you that will change your views. Its like trying to melt chocolate in a fridge, ITS JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

As you don't even understand the basics of roulette, I suggest you start here : nolinks://nolinks.roulettesystemanalysis.com/m/publicdemo.wmv

[ReDsQuaD]

-2004 - The Ritz team who smashed it over 2 nights when using a roulette device to predict the outcome of a spin. Here is a short documentary about this here ritz.wmv
The team predicted the area of where the ball would land, and placed 5 numbers on that area.


There was no roulette device involved but genius Niko Tosha whom I assist
in many games from 2003-2007 around EU casinos.To end the story,ever since 2008 he/we/
couldn't find suitable wheel to play in EU any more..Went to Russia,ex Russian countries,Macao and finally in Australia...lost all previous wins and last I heard of him that he went broke Down under.....which assures me today there is no place for VB players any longer.

Thanks, but its all irrelevant as its not the point I am trying to make here.

Ahh yeh, and that guy who assured you that VB players don't exist? He is either clueless or simply just just lieing to you. Its like saying computer players don't exist... Well anyway, like I said in old POSTS. Virtually predicting where the ball is going to land is easy enough. Your main efforts are staying on top of your conditions, ie focusing on the ball scatter on different rotor speeds. So how far is the ball landing from your visual prediction?

[crackers]

What a joy. Why is it that Wheel Bias Fundamentalists always go on like they
are so sure they are right. Snowman must be the xxxxxxxxxxxx that
ever visited a casino. Now we have this new guy here. He's just like the snowball
himself. What are chances that two guys have the very same affliction?

[crackers]

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