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Roulette System Development & Testing => Testing Zone => Topic started by: curious on September 27, 2009, 02:21:59 PM

Title: Random on Random...Someone help me test
Post by: curious on September 27, 2009, 02:21:59 PM
This is going to sound stupid, but I tested it and it works.  I call this random on random.  The premise is that since roulette is a random game, the best way to make bet selections is using true random numbers.

You can easily recreate this test yourself.

Go to a true random number generator site. 
Generate some large number of true random numbers. 
Save them to a file. 
Now get some real spins from one of the German casinos.
Now create a new spreadsheet in excel.
     In column A import the live spins from the German casino.
     In column B import the true random numbers.
     In column C put in this formula IF(A1=B1, 1, -1)
     In column D row 1 put in the value 1.
     In column D starting in row 2 put in this formula IF(C1<0,D1+1, 1) [this creates a negative progression for the bet sizes]
     In column E put in this formula IF(A1=B1, D1*35, D1*-1)
     At the end of column E + 1 row put in sum(E1:E100000) [adjust for the number of spins you are testing)

I have tested this using many true random files and many live spin results and I always get a positive result.  Over 10,000 spins, the average win is 16,000 units.  The average total amount risked is 350,000 units.  This is an average ROI of > 20%.

Don't shoot me I am just the messenger.
Title: Re: Random on Random...Someone help me test
Post by: Spike on September 27, 2009, 04:30:26 PM
Random vs random has been tested every way possible and always yields the same result. Guess what that result is.
Title: Re: Random on Random...Someone help me test
Post by: kav on September 27, 2009, 04:38:09 PM
Hi Curious,

Check the draw-down. Then check the maximum bet you had to make.
Do you see now why this wont work in real life?
Title: Re: Random on Random...Someone help me test
Post by: curious on September 27, 2009, 05:24:32 PM
Quote from: kav on September 27, 2009, 04:38:09 PM
Hi Curious,

Check the draw-down. Then check the maximum bet you had to make.
Do you see now why this wont work in real life?

There was no draw down.

The maximum bet required was 210 units.
Title: Re: Random on Random...Someone help me test
Post by: curious on September 27, 2009, 05:26:23 PM
Quote from: Spike on September 27, 2009, 04:30:26 PM
Random vs random has been tested every way possible and always yields the same result. Guess what that result is.

I have asked you before to stay out of my threads because you contribute nothing constructive to them you just talk bullshit and complain.  The title of this thread is ....someone help me test".  If you aren't going to help me test or point me at already completed test results then why are you posting in my thread?  Every thread I start you fill it up with your know it all comments.  Either add something constructive or go away.
Title: Re: Random on Random...Someone help me test
Post by: kav on September 27, 2009, 05:27:12 PM
Quote from: curious on September 27, 2009, 05:24:32 PM
There was no draw down.

The maximum bet required was 210 units.

In real casinos the maximum straight up bet is 20 units. In online casinos (which I don't trust) may be more. But nowhere will thet let you bet 210 units straight up on a number.
Title: Re: Random on Random...Someone help me test
Post by: curious on September 27, 2009, 10:10:55 PM
Quote from: kav on September 27, 2009, 05:27:12 PM
In real casinos the maximum straight up bet is 20 units. In online casinos (which I don't trust) may be more. But nowhere will thet let you bet 210 units straight up on a number.

I dont' do anything online.

I'm in "real casinos" every day.

The casinos I go to have $3 minimum and $200 or $300 maximum straight up.  I've never seen a maximum bet of $20.  Not sure what you mean.
Title: Re: Random on Random...Someone help me test
Post by: MattyMattz on September 27, 2009, 10:24:47 PM
Those are some good odds. 

I've never seen those odds on a live table, although I don't play that often.

MM
Title: Re: Random on Random...Someone help me test
Post by: Twocando on September 30, 2009, 04:21:23 AM
mate

Sorry but a roulette wheel is not random. There is a choice of 37 pockets / numbers. They are fixed on a wheel, so they will not change shape or size. they are always a part of a section or group on the wheel.

I will post a topic to explain this. If its random then it can't be calculated to anything else.

Maxis on table are normally 20 x the minimum bet on the number You can places more with the splits to cadence number.

For help on the test, any calculation will create a winner. Even the play of the root of the last number can win 35 followed by number 8 or 11 then 2. The mirror of numbers - wow 6 - 9 ; 21 - 12 ; 13 -31...

Twocando