Hello
Using the same numbers from Riverbelle, we test.
Although I was told not to, I bought the Chicco Flash Leon Pro 2 software. It plays very close to the even mark. But I have modified it with the murph Bookie betting system which he so generously gave us. Here's what I do.
When Chicco calls for a 12 number bet, I look to see what numbers murph would bet that are the same. I then bet only those numbers. This is a true reduction of volatility. On my first test of 100 numbers there were many four-number bets, quite a few six-number bets and a scarce few eight-number bets. After it was all said and done, the system won 146 units. Not too shabby.
So we'll walk it around the block a few times and see if it poops!
PLEASE DON'T ACCUSE ME OF SELLING SOFTWARE FOR CHICCO. I DON'T KNOW HIM FROM MURPH!
sAM
99 numbers from 7.22.8
Profit of 230u.
146
230 = 376
Hope springs eternal!
Could I get a witness??
Sam
Day 3 7.23.8
Rough day. Profit was 52 units. Chico did not pick many winners today.
Three day total:
146
230 = 376
52 = 428
Laters.
Sam
Thanks for devoting time to testing samster. Keep it alive!
Your friend,
Victor
Today I played this sucker live on Wild Jack. Won six whole dollars!!
That casino will jack you around, so their name is pretty telling! They only give you about 20 seconds to bet. Anyway, I got it down to a science and can beat their timer.
Who said, "If roulette wasn't beatable, they wouldn't take counter-measures."? That's what this bunch are doing.
Gives a body hope; they have to cheat us to beat us!!
Samster
Good job TCS, take 'em to the cleaners.
Matt
Thanks, Matt.......
OK, I played this last night and broke even.
The movie is posted under the /Compa thread.
Here's a few screen shots from today's play:
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Since I have logged onto Wild Jack, I have increased my bankroll (LOL $200) by 68%. Now, for three days play, one hundred spins per day, that ain't bad.
Notice I bet fivers on the /Compa-LeBear-17Black system. Faith! Gots to have faith!! LOL
You have scoll down a bit to see my final USD balance.
Samster
I got the sin of hubris all over me; must go shower in humility!
Hello
Today I played at the Wild Jack and had a rough trot, I tell ya! I thought I was never going to get a winner. I went down about $60, which is a lot betting fifty cent bets, but in a few spins I was up 32 for the day and I quit.
I am not encouraging anyone to buy Leon Pro 2 software, but this system does seem to work. I am flat betting, you see.
You go a long time and then the wins come in clusters. LLLLLLLLLLLLLnolinksw But the four or five wins will get you clear.
Here's the daily tally:
146
230 = 376
52 = 428
Broke even on Friday
32 on Sat**day Total 460 units.
Since logging on a Wild Jack my bankroll has gone from 220 to 402, almost double. Now for those who chide me for not betting ten-dollar bets and winnnig big--I simply couldn't. I know my comfort level and right now $5 makes me sweat bullets!!
Sam
Tough day at Wild Jack.
This double-advantage system could only eek out three units before I was too tired to go further.
Here's the daily tally:
146
230 = 376
52 = 428
Broke even on Friday
32 on Sat**day Total 460 units.
Monday, 7.28.8 +3 Total 463 units.
Sam
Hello
I am resuming this study. I should never have neglected it. With the numbers I used for the Selecta4 System, 8.15.8.......
We went up 135u. Our total stands at:
146
230 = 376
52 = 428
Broke even on Friday
32 on Sat**day Total 460 units.
Monday, 7.28.8 +3 Total 463 units.
8.15.8........135.....total 135 + 463 = 598 flat betting. No loses; one break even.
Sam
u want any help testing?
u will need to detail the bet slection and i will help?
tuck
You would have to buy Chicco's software and I leave that decision up to you. If it's good, I'll post it.
What I'm doing is taking the two D/S that Chicco selects and the numbers murph selects and betting the "overlap" or numbers that both pick. There is almost always a bet every spin, except with Chicco goes NA or one of murph's non-bet numbers show.
Sam
Well, I just had to lose one...........112
146
230 = 376
52 = 428
Broke even on Friday
32 on Sat**day Total 460 units.
Monday, 7.28.8 +3 Total 463 units.
8.15.8........135.....total 135 + 463 = 598 flat betting.
8.18.8........-112...total.....598 - 112 = 486
146
230 = 376
52 = 428
Broke even on Friday
32 on Sat**day Total 460 units.
Monday, 7.28.8 +3 Total 463 units.
8.15.8........135.....total 135 + 463 = 598 flat betting.
8.18.8........-112...total.....598 - 112 = 486
8.19.8.......-36..................................450
Well something worked for me today.
There were 185 spins and probably 30 of them were no-plays. Profit was 176. At one time I was up over 250 and I'm sure I would have quit there or before, but I will list the total.
146
230 = 376
52 = 428
Broke even on Friday
32 on Sat**day Total 460 units.
Monday, 7.28.8 +3 Total 463 units.
8.15.8........135.....total 135 + 463 = 598 flat betting.
8.18.8........-112...total.....598 - 112 = 486
8.19.8.......-36..................................450
8.20.8.......+176...................Total......626
Could I get an "Amen"?
Sam
just wonder how to play this system?
star + star
There is no secret here; it's just that you have to buy a system for 100 Euro to play it.
AND I'M NOT SPAMMING. ACTUALLY I'M SAYING DON'T BUY IT YET.
I will continue to post the results. It uses the numbers from Leon Pro 2 software and the murph corner system. Let me test it further. If I determine it works, then, at your decision, you purchase the software.
Sam
This is looking pretty salty......
146
230 = 376
52 = 428
Broke even on Friday
32 on Sat**day Total 460 units.
Monday, 7.28.8 +3 Total 463 units.
8.15.8........135.....total 135 + 463 = 598 flat betting.
8.18.8........-112...total.....598 - 112 = 486
8.19.8.......-36..................................450
8.20.8.......+176...................Total......626
8.22.8.......+236...................Total......862
Flow chart below
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I actually finished at my high point for the trot. I might have quit at 200 but who's quibbling?
Sam
Well, today was the session we all fear.
I mean I have rarely seen things go so badly!! And after yesterday when they went so good!! The Chicco software was absolutely not picking winning double streets and when it did, the murph system did not agree and I lost. Had I stuck to the bitter end, it would have dropped 284u at spin 187. However, I made a note to bail at -100 and played the system to the last number to see when and if things would turn around.
Toward the end, I started seeing winners. Had I just logged on at that point, I probably would have won. But I was on the negative tram!
I once said while using the VLS Lw Methodology I could tell which way the wind was blowing and I think Mr. Chips is accomplishing the same thing. I feel I can do it with this system also and turn it into a winner. When things are going bad, they can stay bad 'till the cows come home.
Did anyone read all that?? I barely did!!
146
230 = 376
52 = 428
Broke even on Friday
32 on Sat**day Total 460 units.
Monday, 7.28.8 +3 Total 463 units.
8.15.8........135.....total 135 + 463 = 598 flat betting.
8.18.8........-112...total.....598 - 112 = 486
8.19.8.......-36..................................450
8.20.8.......+176...................Total......626
8.22.8.......+236...................Total......862
8.23.8........-100................Total........762.
Sam
Hello
This is the properly spaced table. Thanks again, Victor. On the trot for 8.24.8 there were 200 numbers captured. At spin 100 I was up 106 and considering the loss the day before, would have quit. In a few more spins it went up to 192 units and finished the 200 at 122.
[table=,]
Date,Today's W/L,Running Total
?,146,146
?,230,376
?,52,428
?,32,460
7.28.8,3,463
8.15.8,135,598
8.18.8,-112,486
8.19.8,-36,450
8.20.8,+176,626
8.22.8,+236,862
8.23.8,-100,762
8.24.8,+106,868
[/table]
Today was not a good day for this system either. It went from a low of over 100 to a high of 44 and back to flat 0 at spin 200.
I feel I would have applied Mr. Chips "get out" theory and got out around -54. Gonna call that......
[table=,]
Date,Today's W/L,Running Total
?,146,146
?,230,376
?,52,428
?,32,460
7.28.8,3,463
8.15.8,135,598
8.18.8,-112,486
8.19.8,-36,450
8.20.8,+176,626
8.22.8,+236,862
8.23.8,-100,762
8.24.8,+106,868
9.2.8,-54,814
[/table]
Session from hell....high of 58....low of 127
[table=,]
Date,Today's W/L,Running Total
?,146,146
?,230,376
?,52,428
?,32,460
7.28.8,3,463
8.15.8,135,598
8.18.8,-112,486
8.19.8,-36,450
8.20.8,+176,626
8.22.8,+236,862
8.23.8,-100,762
8.24.8,+106,868
9.2.8,-54,814
9.3.8,-127,687
[/table]
Hard day.........+22[table=,]
Date,Today's W/L,Running Total
?,146,146
?,230,376
?,52,428
?,32,460
7.28.8,3,463
8.15.8,135,598
8.18.8,-112,486
8.19.8,-36,450
8.20.8,+176,626
8.22.8,+236,862
8.23.8,-100,762
8.24.8,+106,868
9.2.8,-54,814
9.3.8,-127,687
9.4.8,22,709
[/table]
Today was a much better day. I was actually up 180 at two occasions. I Hit 170 at spin 68 then dropped to 166 and then to 140. Fearing I was riding a downturn, I quit there. I continued on and hit the two 180s and eventually finished the trot at 160. I will record 140 and be happy.
[table=,]
Date,Today's W/L,Running Total
?,146,146
?,230,376
?,52,428
?,32,460
7.28.8,3,463
8.15.8,135,598
8.18.8,-112,486
8.19.8,-36,450
8.20.8,+176,626
8.22.8,+236,862
8.23.8,-100,762
8.24.8,+106,868
9.2.8,-54,814
9.3.8,-127,687
9.4.8,22,709
9.5.8,140,849
Sam
[/table]
Another good day for this system. I was up 119 and then the down slide began and I quit at 57. My next spin would have taken me to 89, but I'm happy with the result I'm taking.
[table=,]
Date,Today's W/L,Running Total
?,146,146
?,230,376
?,52,428
?,32,460
7.28.8,3,463
8.15.8,135,598
8.18.8,-112,486
8.19.8,-36,450
8.20.8,+176,626
8.22.8,+236,862
8.23.8,-100,762
8.24.8,+106,868
9.2.8,-54,814
9.3.8,-127,687
9.4.8,22,709
9.5.8,140,849
9.6.8,57,906
[/table]
Crappy day!! With this system I've noticed that Chicco either wins a lot of his d/s bets or almost none at all. There seems to be no in-between.
[table=,]
Date,Today's W/L,Running Total
?,146,146
?,230,376
?,52,428
?,32,460
7.28.8,3,463
8.15.8,135,598
8.18.8,-112,486
8.19.8,-36,450
8.20.8,+176,626
8.22.8,+236,862
8.23.8,-100,762
8.24.8,+106,868
9.2.8,-54,814
9.3.8,-127,687
9.4.8,22,709
9.5.8,140,849
9.6.8,57,906
9.8.8,-178,728
[/table]
Sam
Two days to report. Went to sleep and forgot yesterday's!
Slow day the first one, made 42 after a long haul, 100 numbers, and quit.
Today was great. 118 in 25 spins. Wanted to stay longer, but I need that loss back so I didn't chance it.
[table=,]
Date,Today's W/L,Running Total
?,146,146
?,230,376
?,52,428
?,32,460
7.28.8,3,463
8.15.8,135,598
8.18.8,-112,486
8.19.8,-36,450
8.20.8,+176,626
8.22.8,+236,862
8.23.8,-100,762
8.24.8,+106,868
9.2.8,-54,814
9.3.8,-127,687
9.4.8,22,709
9.5.8,140,849
9.6.8,57,906
9.8.8,-178,728
9.9.8,42,770
9.10.8,118,888
[/table]
Another good day for this system. The Leon Pro 2 software hit like a banshee on this trot. I only stay with it 58 spins and I felt I had enough. Mind you, the first 23 are not usable; only when 24 is input does Chicco give a prediction.
[table=,]
Date,Today's W/L,Running Total
?,146,146
?,230,376
?,52,428
?,32,460
7.28.8,3,463
8.15.8,135,598
8.18.8,-112,486
8.19.8,-36,450
8.20.8,+176,626
8.22.8,+236,862
8.23.8,-100,762
8.24.8,+106,868
9.2.8,-54,814
9.3.8,-127,687
9.4.8,22,709
9.5.8,140,849
9.6.8,57,906
9.8.8,-178,728
9.9.8,42,770
9.10.8,118,888
9.11.8,126,1014
[/table]
Profits hit $1,000 today. I am growing optimistic!
Samster
Another good day.
[table=,]
Date,Today's W/L,Running Total
?,146,146
?,230,376
?,52,428
?,32,460
7.28.8,3,463
8.15.8,135,598
8.18.8,-112,486
8.19.8,-36,450
8.20.8,+176,626
8.22.8,+236,862
8.23.8,-100,762
8.24.8,+106,868
9.2.8,-54,814
9.3.8,-127,687
9.4.8,22,709
9.5.8,140,849
9.6.8,57,906
9.8.8,-178,728
9.9.8,42,770
9.10.8,118,888
9.11.8,126,1014
9.12.8,104,1118
[/table]
This looks good. I've read so many of your posts and you talk so brilliantly!
Please may I join your gang ;)
darren
You are certainly welcome to join my "gang"! LOL Our gang colors are mostly red and black with an occasional green.
Thanks and jump right in!
Sam
Well, I'm ready for October 1st to start betting on this again.
[table=,]
Date,Today's W/L,Running Total
?,146,146
?,230,376
?,52,428
?,32,460
7.28.8,3,463
8.15.8,135,598
8.18.8,-112,486
8.19.8,-36,450
8.20.8,+176,626
8.22.8,+236,862
8.23.8,-100,762
8.24.8,+106,868
9.2.8,-54,814
9.3.8,-127,687
9.4.8,22,709
9.5.8,140,849
9.6.8,57,906
9.8.8,-178,728
9.9.8,42,770
9.10.8,118,888
9.11.8,126,1014
9.12.8,104,1118
9.13.8,110,1228
[/table]
So, what do we think? Have I lucked out for a thousand spins? Anyone see why I'm excited?
[table=,]
Date,Today's W/L,Running Total
?,146,146
?,230,376
?,52,428
?,32,460
7.28.8,3,463
8.15.8,135,598
8.18.8,-112,486
8.19.8,-36,450
8.20.8,+176,626
8.22.8,+236,862
8.23.8,-100,762
8.24.8,+106,868
9.2.8,-54,814
9.3.8,-127,687
9.4.8,22,709
9.5.8,140,849
9.6.8,57,906
9.8.8,-178,728
9.9.8,42,770
9.10.8,118,888
9.11.8,126,1014
9.12.8,104,1118
9.13.8,110,1228
9.14.9,108,1336
[/table]
Here is a video showing the Chicco/murph system in action. It's the splits and corners; the others are Gamlet
nolinks://nolinks.motionbox.com/videos/709ddbb61b1fe2f9 (nolinks://nolinks.motionbox.com/videos/709ddbb61b1fe2f9)
Sam - Excellent Post! This was the first video I've actually watched (my other computer can access them).
Great job with the video and the "white board" as a commentator. Appriciate it.
Matt
Matt
Did you see that strange playing area? Where did the green and red go. That looked like a lighted board to me.
Sam
Yeah - that blue felt is weird at first.
Amazing Sam,
Looks promising. Is your win in units the Flash/Murph of combined with Gamlet?
And you say you have edited the software. Can we download the edited software you're using somewhere? I would love to test it @ dublinbet.
Thank you.
Grtz. Jur
jur
No, not with Gamlet. This is just Chicco's two double streets and murph's corner numbers. When they both pick, I bet those 4, 6 or 8 numbers.
You have to buy the Chicco software for 100 Euro. He might still be giving demos for 30 days.
I am not sure what you mean by editing the software. Show me where I wrote that. Chicco's software is etched in stone.
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on September 15, 2008, 01:50:41 PM
jur
No, not with Gamlet. This is just Chicco's two double streets and murph's corner numbers. When they both pick, I bet those 4, 6 or 8 numbers.
You have to buy the Chicco software for 100 Euro. He might still be giving demos for 30 days.
I am not sure what you mean by editing the software. Show me where I wrote that. Chicco's software is etched in stone.
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on July 21, 2008, 09:45:18 PM
But I have modified it with the murph Bookie betting system which he so generously gave us. Here's what I do.
Sorry Sam, bad reading from my side.
I see you combine 2 programs.
1) The Chicco software (I guess this shows you where to bet).
2) Murph system, this is what you bet without software.
Am I right?
And do you advice of buying the software? Aren't we all sceptic about buying roulette software :)
JHM
Let me give you an example: You put in the first 24 numbers from the trot. On the 24th, Chicco gives you his prediction. Let's say the number 12 came on the 24th spin. His predictions are: 16 thru 21 and 31 thru 36. Now, for the number 12 murph picks these corners: 2,3,5,6; 11,12,14,15; 20,21,23,24; 29,30,32,33. Now, what are the overlapping numbers? The numbers both systems pick? 20,21 and 32,33. I bet these four numbers and 33 came next. You may see this in "The TwoCat 5,000" 9.14.8 p1 There were 25 numbers input as Chicco does not recognize 0.
As to buying the software and doing what I'm doing--why not let me do the testing? If it's good, it will be good a year from now. If it's bad, you save your money. I am not a shill for Chicco, but I am becoming very optimistic. I have family members who have seen these figures and want to contribute to the bankroll. Can you just "luck out" and win over 1200u over a thousand spins?
My goal is when I'm dead and going up in smoke, some ol' naysayer will be standing around saying, "You know, if that bastard had lived long enough he would have lost!"
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on September 15, 2008, 02:25:58 PM
JHM
Let me give you an example: You put in the first 24 numbers from the trot. On the 24th, Chicco gives you his prediction. Let's say the number 12 came on the 24th spin. His predictions are: 16 thru 21 and 31 thru 36. Now, for the number 12 murph picks these corners: 2,3,5,6; 11,12,14,15; 20,21,23,24; 29,30,32,33. Now, what are the overlapping numbers? The numbers both systems pick? 20,21 and 32,33. I bet these four numbers and 33 came next. You may see this in "The TwoCat 5,000" 9.14.8 p1 There were 25 numbers input as Chicco does not recognize 0.
As to buying the software and doing what I'm doing--why not let me do the testing? If it's good, it will be good a year from now. If it's bad, you save your money. I am not a shill for Chicco, but I am becoming very optimistic. I have family members who have seen these figures and want to contribute to the bankroll. Can you just "luck out" and win over 1200u over a thousand spins?
My goal is when I'm dead and going up in smoke, some ol' naysayer will be standing around saying, "You know, if that bastard had lived long enough he would have lost!"
Sam
Please call me Jur Sam. JHM are my birth initials. Great, I looked at Chicco's website and saw the program run on a movie. I see you don't play both systems as adviced. You play the overlapping numbers. Chicco says ''play a street (6 nr's)'' and Murph says ''Play these .... 16 nr's''. Sam looks which nr's overlap (4 nr's) and play those numbers? Am I correct?
If I am, how do you play? You flat bet these (4) numbers once? Or do you rebet when a nr. doesn't hit?
As for testing, please keep testing Sam. I'll check your testing.
Jur
I know nothing of Chicco's website. Wasn't it in Italian? Don't know what he recommends to bet. He always picks two double streets if he picks at all. Sometimes you get NA and you enter another number.
I look at the double streets he picks. I look at the four corners that murph picks. I have a chart which makes it very easy. Murph will either pick 4, 6, or 8 numbers that fall within the double streets. Always. I flat bet those numbers only; no progression. I never rebet the numbers that are picked because they lost. Each spin produces new numbers. Now, sometimes it will happen that they double-pick and then you would bet the same numbers. Go look at my sheets. See this:
4
4
6
4
8........those are all losers.
4w
6w
8w.......is when it wins. It's in the far right column.
It is double advantage in that Chicco picks these numbers to win and murph picks them also. It's an old horse race theory that worked for me.
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on September 15, 2008, 04:43:16 PM
Jur
I know nothing of Chicco's website. Wasn't it in Italian? Don't know what he recommends to bet. He always picks two double streets if he picks at all. Sometimes you get NA and you enter another number.
I look at the double streets he picks. I look at the four corners that murph picks. I have a chart which makes it very easy. Murph will either pick 4, 6, or 8 numbers that fall within the double streets. Always. I flat bet those numbers only; no progression. Go look at my sheets. See this:
4
4
6
4
8........those are all losers.
4w
6w
8w.......is when it wins. It's in the far right column.
It is double advantage in that Chicco picks these numbers to win and murph picks them also. It's an old horse race theory that worked for me.
Sam
Thank you Sam. I'll have a closer look. If you're interested in Chicco's website, the adress is nolinks://nolinks.leon2roulette.com/default_en.asp (nolinks://nolinks.leon2roulette.com/default_en.asp)
Greetz Jur
Here is my chart.
Notice how they are spread out? This is so my first and little finger can go directly beneath the numbers. This is huge lettering on a sheet of typing paper. I have gotten very good at doing this. After 2,000 tries, one should!
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Quote from: TwoCatSam on September 15, 2008, 04:53:43 PM
Here is my chart.
Notice how they are spread out? This is so my first and little finger can go directly beneath the numbers. This is huge lettering on a sheet of typing paper. I have gotten very good at doing this. After 2,000 tries, one should!
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Sam if you play like Murph's system, than is it:
Nr. 1 hit, you bet 1-2-4-5
Nr. 1 hit, you bet 1-2-4-5 10-11-13-14 19-20-22-23 28-29-31-32
Jur
Suppose #1 came. You would first have to look and see which two Double Streets Chicco picked. THEN you look at those numbers murph picks. Bet the numbers they both pick.
I will give you a test: Number 36 comes. Chicco picks 10-15 and 28-33. Using the above chart, what would your bet be?
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on September 15, 2008, 05:36:23 PM
Jur
Suppose #1 came. You would first have to look and see which two Double Streets Chicco picked. THEN you look at those numbers murph picks. Bet the numbers they both pick.
I will give you a test: Number 36 comes. Chicco picks 10-15 and 28-33. Using the above chart, what would your bet be?
Sam
14-15-32-33?
Jur
A gold star for you!
Ummmm That may not be a phrase used 'round the world.
You got it right!! Correctomudo....Verdad.......Yeppers.........Anolinksnolinksnolinksnolinksright!
See, not hard, just need dedication.
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on September 15, 2008, 06:12:54 PM
Jur
A gold star for you!
Ummmm That may not be a phrase used 'round the world.
You got it right!! Correctomudo....Verdad.......Yeppers.........Anolinksnolinksnolinksnolinksright!
See, not hard, just need dedication.
Sam
Great. And Sam, you keep betting these 4 flat bet until 1 hits? And then remove other 3 numbers / bets.
No, Jur....
When the next number comes after the 36, it's a whole new world. Chicco picks new numbers and so does murph. You forget the bets you just made and make new ones as directed.
The next three numbers were either 17, 35 or N/A so the next real number after that 36 was 4. Chicco picked 1-6 19-24.
Please go figure it.
Sam
Oke we lost, we forget our last bet and bet 1-2-4-5 19-20-22-23
Is that correct?
Yes, and you got a winner on 4.
Bit of a downer day...
Chicco was all over the place but did not get many wins. Time to pack it in when he is hitting where he picked last time or two numbers away every time. Funny how this either works very well or not at all. I was once up 52 but felt I could do better. Down 52..
[table=,]
Date,Today's W/L,Running Total
?,146,146
?,230,376
?,52,428
?,32,460
7.28.8,3,463
8.15.8,135,598
8.18.8,-112,486
8.19.8,-36,450
8.20.8,+176,626
8.22.8,+236,862
8.23.8,-100,762
8.24.8,+106,868
9.2.8,-54,814
9.3.8,-127,687
9.4.8,22,709
9.5.8,140,849
9.6.8,57,906
9.8.8,-178,728
9.9.8,42,770
9.10.8,118,888
9.11.8,126,1014
9.12.8,104,1118
9.13.8,110,1228
9.14.8,108,1336
9.15.8,<52>,1284
[/table]
Quote from: TwoCatSam on September 16, 2008, 01:00:53 AM
Yes, and you got a winner on 4.
That's 35 - 11 = + 24. Nice.
Quote from: TwoCatSam on September 16, 2008, 01:04:20 AM
Bit of a downer day...
Chicco was all over the place but did not get many wins. Time to pack it in when he is hitting where he picked last time or two numbers away every time. Funny how this either works very well or not at all. I was once up 52 but felt I could do better. Down 52..
[table=,]
Date,Today's W/L,Running Total
?,146,146
?,230,376
?,52,428
?,32,460
7.28.8,3,463
8.15.8,135,598
8.18.8,-112,486
8.19.8,-36,450
8.20.8,+176,626
8.22.8,+236,862
8.23.8,-100,762
8.24.8,+106,868
9.2.8,-54,814
9.3.8,-127,687
9.4.8,22,709
9.5.8,140,849
9.6.8,57,906
9.8.8,-178,728
9.9.8,42,770
9.10.8,118,888
9.11.8,126,1014
9.12.8,104,1118
9.13.8,110,1228
9.14.8,108,1336
9.15.8,<52>,1284
[/table]
You limited your lose. Have you set a winning and losing limit Sam?
Jur
If I get up a hundred, I'll quit. Part of that is that I'm mentally give out and want to quit entering numbers as quickly as possible.
I'm adopting Mr. Chips strategy of quitting at around 50 down. I might should have stayed with this trot longer, but I'm kind of getting the idea when things are going wrong. When they go wrong, they seem to do it for hundreds of spins. Might as well come back another day.
Also I've noticed when Chicco changes his pick each time, this thing works better. When he makes the same prediction time after time, it doesn't work at all.
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on September 16, 2008, 01:49:10 PM
Jur
If I get up a hundred, I'll quit. Part of that is that I'm mentally give out and want to quit entering numbers as quickly as possible.
I'm adopting Mr. Chips strategy of quitting at around 50 down. I might should have stayed with this trot longer, but I'm kind of getting the idea when things are going wrong. When they go wrong, they seem to do it for hundreds of spins. Might as well come back another day.
Also I've noticed when Chicco changes his pick each time, this thing works better. When he makes the same prediction time after time, it doesn't work at all.
Sam
I was thinking the same. Not only this system, win limit +100 and lose limit -50.
Please keep up the testing. When is testing done Sam? When we reach ....... sessions?
Jur
On October 1st, I will resume betting real money. I will decide at that time what system to play.
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on September 16, 2008, 03:04:56 PM
Jur
On October 1st, I will resume betting real money. I will decide at that time what system to play.
Sam
If I get you right, you are going to play one of the systems you have been testing with real money? Is it because of the challenge or you're done testing that you're going to play for real?
My internet is goofy......
Plan to play because test is good...
Jur
The purpose of a test is to (hopefully) play for real money. To make money. To buy carpet!
Before I get cut off.........I will probably play this system or the 4Selecta.
Sam
An OK day
[table=,]
Date,Today's W/L,Running Total
?,146,146
?,230,376
?,52,428
?,32,460
7.28.8,3,463
8.15.8,135,598
8.18.8,-112,486
8.19.8,-36,450
8.20.8,+176,626
8.22.8,+236,862
8.23.8,-100,762
8.24.8,+106,868
9.2.8,-54,814
9.3.8,-127,687
9.4.8,22,709
9.5.8,140,849
9.6.8,57,906
9.8.8,-178,728
9.9.8,42,770
9.10.8,118,888
9.11.8,126,1014
9.12.8,104,1118
9.13.8,110,1228
9.14.8,108,1336
9.15.8,<52>,1284
9.16.8,84,1368
[/table]
Sam,
You play 4-16 numbers with a lot of hits. Do you think the numbers have something in comment or have a relation to each other?
What bankrol do you plan to start with Sam?
Jur
Sorry, no, you are not following me. I either play 4 or 6 or 8 numbers. Never more than 8. I will start with a $500 bankroll playing .50 per number.
Sam
[table=,]
Date,Today's W/L,Running Total
?,146,146
?,230,376
?,52,428
?,32,460
7.28.8,3,463
8.15.8,135,598
8.18.8,-112,486
8.19.8,-36,450
8.20.8,+176,626
8.22.8,+236,862
8.23.8,-100,762
8.24.8,+106,868
9.2.8,-54,814
9.3.8,-127,687
9.4.8,22,709
9.5.8,140,849
9.6.8,57,906
9.8.8,-178,728
9.9.8,42,770
9.10.8,118,888
9.11.8,126,1014
9.12.8,104,1118
9.13.8,110,1228
9.14.8,108,1336
9.15.8,<52>,1284
9.16.8,84,1368
9.17,off,same
9.18.8,<62>,1306
[/table]
Oke Sam,
Where do I go wrong, let's say, Chicco's system gives you 2 streets and Mr. Chips numbers occur in both streets, than you have 12 numbers, or is it impossible for Mr. Chip's numbers to occur in all numbers of 2 streets?
As for your bankroll, it's a lot of personal money. I hope you can miss this money (if you're on a huge losing streak). But offcourse I hope more to see your bankroll double and withdraw your own money ;).
Your buddy Jur
Jur
I use Chicco Flash's Leon Pro 2 coupled with murph's corner system. The 4Selecta is totally different.
Yes, it's personal money, but I'm sick and tired of cold, dead numbers. I want to play! I feel the risk is minimal and very worthwhile.
Sam
Jur
Perhaps you should read this thread: nolinks://vlsroulette.com/full-systems/the-leon-pro-2-chicco-flashmurph-double-advantage-system/ (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/full-systems/the-leon-pro-2-chicco-flashmurph-double-advantage-system/)
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on September 19, 2008, 11:06:27 AM
Jur
I use Chicco Flash's Leon Pro 2 coupled with murph's corner system. The 4Selecta is totally different.
Yes, it's personal money, but I'm sick and tired of cold, dead numbers. I want to play! I feel the risk is minimal and very worthwhile.
Sam
Sorry Sam, makes sense now. I have read the topic. I was confused mr. chips with murph. I see, corner's say enough. max 2 streets and 8 numbers.
I'm with you again.
Have been a heavy week.
Quote from: TwoCatSam on September 19, 2008, 11:06:27 AM
Jur
I use Chicco Flash's Leon Pro 2 coupled with murph's corner system. The 4Selecta is totally different.
Yes, it's personal money, but I'm sick and tired of cold, dead numbers. I want to play! I feel the risk is minimal and very worthwhile.
Sam
So it's the challenge, don't let the gambler take over from you Sam.
And I want you to know. I have played with real own money, and it's exciting. But keep to your system and don't be afraid to lose some of your own money, because you will. Just stick to your system / strategy. I'm sure you're going to make me a happy man by winning. I'm looking forward to see your wins, than will start playing this myself too.
Jur
You are right. The "gambler" in me has done me in too many times. I will chain him!
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on September 19, 2008, 01:18:20 PM
Jur
You are right. The "gambler" in me has done me in too many times. I will chain him!
Sam
You will, and if you need help just let me know and we'll chain him together!
Again, things were not looking good. Lots of nearby hits for Chicco and many misses by murph when Chicco did hit. I chickened out at 24.
[table=,]
Date,Today's W/L,Running Total
?,146,146
?,230,376
?,52,428
?,32,460
7.28.8,3,463
8.15.8,135,598
8.18.8,-112,486
8.19.8,-36,450
8.20.8,+176,626
8.22.8,+236,862
8.23.8,-100,762
8.24.8,+106,868
9.2.8,-54,814
9.3.8,-127,687
9.4.8,22,709
9.5.8,140,849
9.6.8,57,906
9.8.8,-178,728
9.9.8,42,770
9.10.8,118,888
9.11.8,126,1014
9.12.8,104,1118
9.13.8,110,1228
9.14.8,108,1336
9.15.8,<52>,1284
9.16.8,84,1368
9.17,off,same
9.18.8,<62>,1306
9.19.8,24,1330
[/table]
Sam,
Better a small win than a big loss my friend.
I'm testing a new system, I was up 36 and my feeling said, 3 wins in a row quit boy. I thought, lets do 1 extra spin for that +48 and than quit. And 5 minuts later I was -100.
Keep in mind, your result in $ 25's is a golden carpet [smiley=Best_of_fichiers/3_13_2.gif]
[table=,]
Date,Today's W/L,Running Total
?,146,146
?,230,376
?,52,428
?,32,460
7.28.8,3,463
8.15.8,135,598
8.18.8,-112,486
8.19.8,-36,450
8.20.8,+176,626
8.22.8,+236,862
8.23.8,-100,762
8.24.8,+106,868
9.2.8,-54,814
9.3.8,-127,687
9.4.8,22,709
9.5.8,140,849
9.6.8,57,906
9.8.8,-178,728
9.9.8,42,770
9.10.8,118,888
9.11.8,126,1014
9.12.8,104,1118
9.13.8,110,1228
9.14.8,108,1336
9.15.8,<52>,1284
9.16.8,84,1368
9.17,off,same
9.18.8,<62>,1306
9.19.8,24,1330
9.20.8,<90>,1240
[/table]
I was up 100u within about 15 spins. I though I was on a roll. Had to quit at 48.
[table=,]
Date,Today's W/L,Running Total
?,146,146
?,230,376
?,52,428
?,32,460
7.28.8,3,463
8.15.8,135,598
8.18.8,-112,486
8.19.8,-36,450
8.20.8,+176,626
8.22.8,+236,862
8.23.8,-100,762
8.24.8,+106,868
9.2.8,-54,814
9.3.8,-127,687
9.4.8,22,709
9.5.8,140,849
9.6.8,57,906
9.8.8,-178,728
9.9.8,42,770
9.10.8,118,888
9.11.8,126,1014
9.12.8,104,1118
9.13.8,110,1228
9.14.8,108,1336
9.15.8,<52>,1284
9.16.8,84,1368
9.17,off,same
9.18.8,<62>,1306
9.19.8,24,1330
9.20.8,<90>,1240
9.21.8,48,1288
[/table]
Not good. Too early to tell if the system is breaking down or just having a bit of a tough streak.
[table=,]
Date,Today's W/L,Running Total
9.21.8,48,1288
9.22.8,<84>,1204
[/table]
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on September 22, 2008, 06:59:13 PM
Not good. Too early to tell if the system is breaking down or just having a bit of a tough streak.
[table=,]
Date,Today's W/L,Running Total
9.21.8,48,1288
9.22.8,<84>,1204
[/table]
Sam
Sam it is quite amazing how some methods win big to start and lose and lose and lose more I just wish when we test that it fails straight away lol
save getting stir crazy over number crunching
9
Yes, that would be nice. I have by no means given up. I know one can catch a run of lousy numbers no matter what day, time or casino. This is part of the game. You hope for the run of good numbers to cancel the bad ones and a bunch of normal ones for your profit.
With the looming depression in America and perhaps the World, I may not bet for a long time. Testing may be all there is!
Oops! I went political!! (Smack, Smack...there, I'm chastised.)
Sam
Sometimes I wonder if it's anything to do with
my biorhythms or the phases of the moon.
Can't think of any other reasons why a system
can work well for a while then tank.
Sam,
9.16.8 you had 1368, now you have 1204. That's = -164. And remember, you were up 100+ and were hungry for more and quit @ 48. On 9.8.8 you lost -174 units. And after that you built to 1368.
For what I see the system is not working less that it did 9.8.8.
Jur
I have by no means given up! This will be tested for months. I have almost memorized the splits and corners.
Sam
Good to hear Sam. You keep testing longer before betting your own money?
Yes, a while longer.
Wise decision
[table=,]
Date,Today's W/L,Running Total
?,146,146
?,230,376
?,52,428
?,32,460
7.28.8,3,463
8.15.8,135,598
8.18.8,-112,486
8.19.8,-36,450
8.20.8,+176,626
8.22.8,+236,862
8.23.8,-100,762
8.24.8,+106,868
9.2.8,-54,814
9.3.8,-127,687
9.4.8,22,709
9.5.8,140,849
9.6.8,57,906
9.8.8,-178,728
9.9.8,42,770
9.10.8,118,888
9.11.8,126,1014
9.12.8,104,1118
9.13.8,110,1228
9.14.8,108,1336
9.15.8,<52>,1284
9.16.8,84,1368
9.17,off,same
9.18.8,<62>,1306
9.19.8,24,1330
9.20.8,<90>,1240
9.21.8,48,1288
9.22.8,<84>,1204
9.23.8,<74>,1130
[/table]
[table=,]
Date,Today's W/L,Running Total
?,146,146
?,230,376
?,52,428
?,32,460
7.28.8,3,463
8.15.8,135,598
8.18.8,-112,486
8.19.8,-36,450
8.20.8,+176,626
8.22.8,+236,862
8.23.8,-100,762
8.24.8,+106,868
9.2.8,-54,814
9.3.8,-127,687
9.4.8,22,709
9.5.8,140,849
9.6.8,57,906
9.8.8,-178,728
9.9.8,42,770
9.10.8,118,888
9.11.8,126,1014
9.12.8,104,1118
9.13.8,110,1228
9.14.8,108,1336
9.15.8,<52>,1284
9.16.8,84,1368
9.17,off,same
9.18.8,<62>,1306
9.19.8,24,1330
9.20.8,<90>,1240
9.21.8,48,1288
9.22.8,<84>,1204
9.23.8,<74>,1130
9.24.8,<78>,1052
[/table]
[table=,]
Date,Today's W/L,Running Total
?,146,146
?,230,376
?,52,428
?,32,460
7.28.8,3,463
8.15.8,135,598
8.18.8,-112,486
8.19.8,-36,450
8.20.8,+176,626
8.22.8,+236,862
8.23.8,-100,762
8.24.8,+106,868
9.2.8,-54,814
9.3.8,-127,687
9.4.8,22,709
9.5.8,140,849
9.6.8,57,906
9.8.8,-178,728
9.9.8,42,770
9.10.8,118,888
9.11.8,126,1014
9.12.8,104,1118
9.13.8,110,1228
9.14.8,108,1336
9.15.8,<52>,1284
9.16.8,84,1368
9.17,off,same
9.18.8,<62>,1306
9.19.8,24,1330
9.20.8,<90>,1240
9.21.8,48,1288
9.22.8,<84>,1204
9.23.8,<74>,1130
9.24.8,<78>,1052
9.25.8,<82>970
[/table]
What's happening Sam, are you on a losing streak?
Jur
Exactly! I am going to ride this out and see where it goes. I am doing nothing different. It's the way the numbers are falling.
You can go back and look at the days when the 8 number bet was predominant, then the six and then the four. You can look and see Chicco winning and then loosing in terrible long streaks. Just because of the way the numbers fall.
And that's the game! For me, I need to see what will happen over time. Many say there is not enough time and they may be right. This is an experiment; I do not know the outcome as in jumping off the roof.
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on September 26, 2008, 12:26:58 PM
Jur
Exactly! I am going to ride this out and see where it goes. I am doing nothing different. It's the way the numbers are falling.
You can go back and look at the days when the 8 number bet was predominant, then the six and then the four. You can look and see Chicco winning and then loosing in terrible long streaks. Just because of the way the numbers fall.
And that's the game! For me, I need to see what will happen over time. Many say there is not enough time and they may be right. This is an experiment; I do not know the outcome as in jumping off the roof.
Sam
This is exactly why testing is so important. A system may look promising, but isn't. I'm curious how this will continue...
[table=,]
Date,Today's W/L,Running Total
?,146,146
?,230,376
?,52,428
?,32,460
7.28.8,3,463
8.15.8,135,598
8.18.8,-112,486
8.19.8,-36,450
8.20.8,+176,626
8.22.8,+236,862
8.23.8,-100,762
8.24.8,+106,868
9.2.8,-54,814
9.3.8,-127,687
9.4.8,22,709
9.5.8,140,849
9.6.8,57,906
9.8.8,-178,728
9.9.8,42,770
9.10.8,118,888
9.11.8,126,1014
9.12.8,104,1118
9.13.8,110,1228
9.14.8,108,1336
9.15.8,<52>,1284
9.16.8,84,1368
9.17,off,same
9.18.8,<62>,1306
9.19.8,24,1330
9.20.8,<90>,1240
9.21.8,48,1288
9.22.8,<84>,1204
9.23.8,<74>,1130
9.24.8,<78>,1052
9.25.8,<82>,970
9.26.8,98,1068
[/table]
OK, I'll admit I'm probably playing too conservatively. I only played about 25 spins and was up 110 and quit. I'm wanting to finish this 5,000 on an uptick.
Here is a system which definitely would not work with a progression as the loosing streaks would kill you. But it "seems" to be recovering nicely!
[table=,]
Date,Today's W/L,Running Total
?,146,146
?,230,376
?,52,428
?,32,460
7.28.8,3,463
8.15.8,135,598
8.18.8,-112,486
8.19.8,-36,450
8.20.8,+176,626
8.22.8,+236,862
8.23.8,-100,762
8.24.8,+106,868
9.2.8,-54,814
9.3.8,-127,687
9.4.8,22,709
9.5.8,140,849
9.6.8,57,906
9.8.8,-178,728
9.9.8,42,770
9.10.8,118,888
9.11.8,126,1014
9.12.8,104,1118
9.13.8,110,1228
9.14.8,108,1336
9.15.8,<52>,1284
9.16.8,84,1368
9.17,off,same
9.18.8,<62>,1306
9.19.8,24,1330
9.20.8,<90>,1240
9.21.8,48,1288
9.22.8,<84>,1204
9.23.8,<74>,1130
9.24.8,<78>,1052
9.25.8,<82>,970
9.26.8,98,1068
9.27.8,110,1178
[/table]
Today started off bad and never showed signs of improvement. I quit at only ten spins in.
[table=,]
Date,Today's W/L,Running Total
?,146,146
?,230,376
?,52,428
?,32,460
7.28.8,3,463
8.15.8,135,598
8.18.8,-112,486
8.19.8,-36,450
8.20.8,+176,626
8.22.8,+236,862
8.23.8,-100,762
8.24.8,+106,868
9.2.8,-54,814
9.3.8,-127,687
9.4.8,22,709
9.5.8,140,849
9.6.8,57,906
9.8.8,-178,728
9.9.8,42,770
9.10.8,118,888
9.11.8,126,1014
9.12.8,104,1118
9.13.8,110,1228
9.14.8,108,1336
9.15.8,<52>,1284
9.16.8,84,1368
9.17,off,same
9.18.8,<62>,1306
9.19.8,24,1330
9.20.8,<90>,1240
9.21.8,48,1288
9.22.8,<84>,1204
9.23.8,<74>,1130
9.24.8,<78>,1052
9.25.8,<82>,970
9.26.8,98,1068
9.27.8,110,1178
9.28.8,<66>,1112
[/table]
I know I should not quit at only 60 up. This system has become mind-numbingly boring and I really don't care any more. Tomorrow my self-imposed time in the box is up and I can start to play for real.
[table=,]
Date,Today's W/L,Running Total
?,146,146
?,230,376
?,52,428
?,32,460
7.28.8,3,463
8.15.8,135,598
8.18.8,-112,486
8.19.8,-36,450
8.20.8,+176,626
8.22.8,+236,862
8.23.8,-100,762
8.24.8,+106,868
9.2.8,-54,814
9.3.8,-127,687
9.4.8,22,709
9.5.8,140,849
9.6.8,57,906
9.8.8,-178,728
9.9.8,42,770
9.10.8,118,888
9.11.8,126,1014
9.12.8,104,1118
9.13.8,110,1228
9.14.8,108,1336
9.15.8,<52>,1284
9.16.8,84,1368
9.17,off,same
9.18.8,<62>,1306
9.19.8,24,1330
9.20.8,<90>,1240
9.21.8,48,1288
9.22.8,<84>,1204
9.23.8,<74>,1130
9.24.8,<78>,1052
9.25.8,<82>,970
9.26.8,98,1068
9.27.8,110,1178
9.28.8,<66>,1112
9.29.8,60,1172
[/table]
[table=,]
Date,Today's W/L,Running Total
?,146,146
?,230,376
?,52,428
?,32,460
7.28.8,3,463
8.15.8,135,598
8.18.8,-112,486
8.19.8,-36,450
8.20.8,+176,626
8.22.8,+236,862
8.23.8,-100,762
8.24.8,+106,868
9.2.8,-54,814
9.3.8,-127,687
9.4.8,22,709
9.5.8,140,849
9.6.8,57,906
9.8.8,-178,728
9.9.8,42,770
9.10.8,118,888
9.11.8,126,1014
9.12.8,104,1118
9.13.8,110,1228
9.14.8,108,1336
9.15.8,<52>,1284
9.16.8,84,1368
9.17,off,same
9.18.8,<62>,1306
9.19.8,24,1330
9.20.8,<90>,1240
9.21.8,48,1288
9.22.8,<84>,1204
9.23.8,<74>,1130
9.24.8,<78>,1052
9.25.8,<82>,970
9.26.8,98,1068
9.27.8,110,1178
9.28.8,<66>,1112
9.29.8,60,1172
10.1.8,<84>,1088
[/table]
This chart will now begin anew using real money.
GL.
Here are the results of the first two days of real money testing. I'm being brave and betting .25 on each number! So my "unit" is a quarter, US. I start with 800u or 800 quarters or $200.00 US.
Remember, the point is not to win money; the point is to test the system by winning money.
[table=,]
Date,Today's W/L,Running Total
10.10.8,<48>,752
10.13.8,102,854
[/table]
[table=,]
Date,,Today's W/L,,Running Total
10.10.8,,<48>@.25,,$188
10.13.8,,102@.25,,$213.50
10.24.8.1,,76@.50,,$251.5
[/table]
People
Now that there is a six day trial version of Leon Pro 2 available in downloads, would anyone care to run a few tests on this system.
I have won consistently with it since I combined the two systems into a double advantage system.
You might be surprised!
Sam
Play it on it's own, or combined Sam?
Combined.
Sam,
Tested 500 spins today on its own (not combined). Outcome -116.
I don't think I'm going to test combined.
Right now, I think I'm really unlucky with this game.
Jur
That's cool!
I will go back to using it myself when I'm done with the G.U.T test.
I doubt that I will take on an new systems to test for quite sometime. I need to get back to the Chicco/murph and the 4Selecta when I can. I feel they are both winners over the long haul.
One thing about Leon Pro 2: When Chicco is hot, he hits a ton of double-streets. When he's cold, he can go forever without a win.
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on November 17, 2008, 08:15:00 PM
Jur
That's cool!
I will go back to using it myself when I'm done with the G.U.T test.
I doubt that I will take on an new systems to test for quite sometime. I need to get back to the Chicco/murph and the 4Selecta when I can. I feel they are both winners over the long haul.
One thing about Leon Pro 2: When Chicco is hot, he hits a ton of double-streets. When he's cold, he can go forever without a win.
Sam
Yo Sam,
Everything that you test always seems to be a "winner" in the beginning lol
Hello All :)
It is incredible how many systems show positive when you do an initial handtest of 15000 or so trials. then they seem to go downhill just as quick.
When a system is heading south remember you can stop any time you like.
Many times in my early playing days I would be playing a system I had designed and if it started losing I just backed the opposite of what my system would have me play. It dug me out of a hole a few times.
Quote from: enrique malou on November 18, 2008, 03:54:09 PM
Hello All :)
It is incredible how many systems show positive when you do an initial handtest of 15000 or so trials. then they seem to go downhill just as quick.
When a system is heading south remember you can stop any time you like.
Many times in my early playing days I would be playing a system I had designed and if it started losing I just backed the opposite of what my system would have me play. It dug me out of a hole a few times.
Hello mate!
Good to see you back in action,time to clean the tables.....lol
Quote from: TwoCatSam on November 17, 2008, 08:15:00 PM
Jur
That's cool!
I will go back to using it myself when I'm done with the G.U.T test.
I doubt that I will take on an new systems to test for quite sometime. I need to get back to the Chicco/murph and the 4Selecta when I can. I feel they are both winners over the long haul.
One thing about Leon Pro 2: When Chicco is hot, he hits a ton of double-streets. When he's cold, he can go forever without a win.
Sam
That's what I noticed too. Here the results from 500 spins, all splitted in sessions of 12. Single means, single double street played like Leon prefer's and double is double double street played.
-6 = 6 numbers covered on a single double street and lost.
- 12 = 12 numbers covered on a single double street and lost.
24 = Double double street played and won
30 = Single double street played and won
WJL 8-4-8 P1
Single Double
w w 30 24
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
l w -6 24
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
w w 30 24
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
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l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
w w 30 24
l l -6 -12
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w w 30 24
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l l -6 -12
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w w 30 24
w w 30 24
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l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
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l l -6 -12
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l w -6 24
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w w 30 24
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l w -6 24
w w 30 24
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l l -6 -12
l w 30 24
l l -6 -12
l w 30 24
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
RBL 7 23 8 P1
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l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
w w 30 24
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l w -6 24
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l w -6 24
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
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w w 30 24
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
w w 30 24
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
w w 30 24
w w 30 24
l w -6 24
w w 30 24
l l -6 -12
w w 30 24
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
w w 30 24
l w -6 24
l w -6 24
l w -6 24
w w 30 24
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
w w 30 24
l l -6 -12
l w -6 24
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
w w 30 24
l w -6 24
l l -6 -12
w w 30 24
l l -6 -12
w w 30 24
l w -6 24
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
w w 30 24
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
l w -6 24
l w -6 24
l w -6 24
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
l w -6 24
w w 30 24
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
RBL 7 22 8 P1
Single Double Single Double
l w -6 24
w w 30 24
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
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w w 30 24
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w w 30 24
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w w 30 24
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l l -6 -12
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l l -6 -12
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l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
l w -6 24
l l -6 -12
l w -6 24
w w 30 24
w w 30 24
l l -6 -12
w w 30 24
l l -6 -12
w w 30 24
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
w w 30 24
w w 30 24
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
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w w 30 24
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l l -6 -12
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l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
l l -6 -12
WJL 8-5-8 P1
Single Double Single Double
l l -6 -12
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l l -6 -12
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30 24
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