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Title: Test of the /Compa-LeBear-17Black Cadence System Mark I
Post by: TwoCatSam on July 21, 2008, 08:14:09 PM
Hello

Unless noted, all spins will come from Riverbelle Live Single 0 wheel.  I do not expect to use other wheels.

The rules:

Using the 0 3 5 7 cadence as spelled out by /Compa-LeBear and modifying it by the method posted by 17Black we will look for two cadences out of the last three spins with at least two spins before them that were not cadences.  We will bet 3 bets using a 1 1 2 progression.  We will also look at the method outlined by /Compa.

1st 100 spins......7-21-08
There were eight qualifying bets.  One lost all three; two won on the first try; four won on the second try and one won on the third try.  Profit for this trot was plus 25 units.

Now, looking at the breaker, I did this.  When four cadences happened in a row, then a cadence breaker, I bet and won two out of two.  There were no runs longer than four in this trot.  There was one section where the cadences came every other or every third spin for quite some time--just like /Compa said it would.

People, I love to help people, but ding dang darnit------go read the posts by /Compa and 17Black before you ask what a cadence is.  Read it all. 

Questions will gladly be answered--should there be any--on the forum where everybody can read them--not in PMs or e-mails.

This could be the one!

TwoCatSam
Title: Re: Test of the /Compa-LeBear-17Black Cadence System Mark I
Post by: TwoCatSam on July 22, 2008, 05:42:25 PM
We left off with +25.

Today, 7,22,8 we had seven winners on the first spin.  7 x 22 = 154.  There was one winner on spin two for 8.  There was one loser on the "breaker" idea for a -14.  So were 154 + 8 -14 = 148.

Day one....25
Day two....148.

Will I bet real money on this at Wild Jack?  On, yeah!! 

Sam
Title: Re: Test of the /Compa-LeBear-17Black Cadence System
Post by: ebrand on July 23, 2008, 06:21:38 PM
Hi TCS,

Keep up the testing - and well done for testing many systems simultaneously
Title: Re: Test of the /Compa-LeBear-17Black Cadence System
Post by: TwoCatSam on July 23, 2008, 06:41:40 PM
Thank you, ebrand!

TwoCat
Title: Re: Test of the /Compa-LeBear-17Black Cadence System
Post by: TwoCatSam on July 23, 2008, 07:14:06 PM
I pulled down 200 numbers today.  The first hundred profited 156 and the second won 1.  Here is how it stands:

Day one.........25
Day two.........148.
Day three.......156
Day three(2)....1

Total = 330u.  Yes, this is playing a "mild" progression, 1 1 2 and quitting there.

Can I get an "AMEN"? 

Sam
Title: Re: Test of the /Compa-LeBear-17Black Cadence System
Post by: TwoCatSam on July 23, 2008, 08:08:52 PM
OK, it isn't much, but it's real money.......FINALLY!

(https://www.vlsroulette.com/proxy.php?request=nolinks%3A%2F%2Fimg75.imageshack.us%2Fimg75%2F6905%2Ftwentyxr9.th.jpg&hash=1eb1e5a303859543aeb2bbef19512699948d8492) (nolinks://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=twentyxr9.jpg)
Title: Re: Test of the /Compa-LeBear-17Black Cadence System
Post by: MattyMattz on July 23, 2008, 08:33:21 PM
AMEN brother, AMEN!   ;D
Title: Re: Test of the /Compa-LeBear-17Black Cadence System
Post by: xman1970 on July 23, 2008, 09:27:37 PM
Amen to the 2Cats Church.....


Keep on rolling dude.....
Title: Re: Test of the /Compa-LeBear-17Black Cadence System
Post by: TwoCatSam on July 24, 2008, 12:13:21 AM
Thanks, gents!!
Title: Re: Test of the /Compa-LeBear-17Black Cadence System
Post by: Joker on July 24, 2008, 03:31:18 AM
hello thank  you so much ..i have a question...

would this work on 00 wheel?

Title: Re: Test of the /Compa-LeBear-17Black Cadence System
Post by: TwoCatSam on July 24, 2008, 07:44:55 AM
joker

Can't say for sure, but I feel it would.  Of course, you always have the extra loser to deal with--00.

TwoCat
Title: Re: Test of the /Compa-LeBear-17Black Cadence System
Post by: WhiteKnight on July 24, 2008, 01:02:28 PM
well TCS, you must have better luck then me because this is how my first attempt went-- LOSS 184 units

NOTE that spins are listed here in reverse order...

July 21/08

most recent to earliest

31
26
0
15
     23
     36
35
     14
33 W
8
     3
     19
15
28
26
     12
2
35
     3
     1
     23 W
24
     1
     30
     7
     21
     21
     1
     1
     25
     19
     1
     18
     23
     23
6
     19
     14
29
26
6
22
     34
     16
11
     18
     36
     1
     34  x
     14
17 W
     16
35
13
24
     9
     18
28
     3
26
     1
     19
20
     30
     12
     9
20
     25
10
20
   0
     27 W
     23
     3
     12
31
     34
     27
     1
10
     30 W
6
11
33
29
     3
2
26
   0
24
29
11
     23
     12
17
     12
4
28
     25
     14
4
6
     23
     36
     7
2
17
     16
     5
     36
13
     7
2
     7 W
     9
   0
     5
     9
20
     34
28
     9
     23 W
     19
31
13
17
     34
     1
     7 W
     25
33
29
     21
24
20
     36
10
     1
     18
13
     1
2
     19
     9
     19
     32
     3
35
     12
28
     7
     14
     16
26
     21
17
24
35 W
     36
17
22
33
     9
29
     23
     18
8
     21
     12
     12
8
33
     36
     16
     21
29
24
     27
24
17
29
     1
     34
     25 W
17
     25
   0
     16
28
31
     12
     14
     14
15
     14
   0
     16
28
     34
     3
     32
   0
     34
15
11
2
28
     12
     5
     1
     18
     16
     21
35 W
10
22
10
22
     34
22
     1
     14
15
     9
     23
22
     23 W
     9
17
     36
     25
     14
     19
     12
     19
2
6
29
35
31
10
4
29
     21
     14
     21
29
     3
20
     14
13 W
11
2
17
6
     3
   0
     34
     9
2
     16
20 W
     9
15
     3
     12
4
     3
     9
2
26
29
     19
     9
     21
33
4
     18
     32
13
28
     16
     12
28
31

-286 spins, total loss 184 units

- i think i followed the rules to a T but maybe i made a mistake some where because this is not very encounraging especially for first test
Title: Re: Test of the /Compa-LeBear-17Black Cadence System
Post by: TwoCatSam on July 24, 2008, 01:38:00 PM
WhiteKnight

I'm a little pressed for time right now, but I will give these a look.  Sure would have made it easier if you had flagged the losers as well as the winners.  Anyway, was this real wheel (whose) or RNG?

Not every system will work with every wheel.  I am at a loss to explain why.

Sam
Title: Re: Test of the /Compa-LeBear-17Black Cadence System
Post by: WhiteKnight on July 24, 2008, 01:48:04 PM
sorry TCS, yes, these are live wheel results from dublinbet table 1 on July 21...no rush to analyze, just thought i'd show you this unfortunate result...
Title: Re: Test of the /Compa-LeBear-17Black Cadence System
Post by: Compa on July 24, 2008, 05:25:56 PM
Hey Sam!! Just came back from my Holiday. Im happy you bringed this on to Testing and that it's going well. Im following it with big interest and engagement. Good Luck Guys and drain the Casino..lmao.

Great!!  ;)

Cheers
/Compa
Title: Re: Test of the /Compa-LeBear-17Black Cadence System
Post by: mystidark on July 25, 2008, 06:37:18 AM
Hey MM,

Great job on the testing! It's a system that I've been testing with much luck, much thanks to Compa and LeBear for bringing it to the forum.

Personally, I've been testing this system by waiting for 8 spins where the 0,3,5,7 cadence does not hit and then betting a 1-1-2-3 progression for the next four spins (stopping on win). More waiting but higher probability of the cadence hitting too. Will try out 17Black's modification too.

Keep up the great work!

MD  8)
Title: Re: Test of the /Compa-LeBear-17Black Cadence System
Post by: TwoCatSam on July 25, 2008, 10:06:22 AM
A TWOCAT VIDEO:

nolinks://nolinks.motionbox.com/video/player/d490d6b71a19e35c/ (nolinks://nolinks.motionbox.com/video/player/d490d6b71a19e35c/)

Ok, pop the corn and get the kiddos!!  LOL

Seriously, last evening I played lived and recorded it.  I wanted those who really, really care to see the way this system works, although I didn't bet on it every time.  I was doing the Leon Pro 2 and murph double-advantage number system firstly.  Very little time to bet.

But with the /Compa-LeBear-17Black Cadence System there were 7 times to bet: one lost (Yes, I played it!!) two it on spin one, three on two and one on three for a profit of 69 units.  There were no long runs of this cadence.

If you fast forward through this video, you will see twelve reds hit in a row.  Toward the end, one of my old systems kicks in.  The zero slept for 77 spins hit on the 78th and hit on the tenth after that.  I had five on it. It hit again on spin 97, but I had quit for the night.

I made some mistakes and I lost control of my mind and made some "fun" bets.  I ended the night up fifty bucks and I am happy but sad that I could not control the impulse betting.

If you take a few minutes to use the HD feature at Motion Box and enlarge your screen shot, it is perfect and you can drag the little crawl bar wherever you want it.

Sam
Title: Re: Test of the /Compa-LeBear-17Black Cadence System
Post by: TwoCatSam on July 26, 2008, 07:12:50 PM
Here we are so far:

Day one.........25
Day two.........148.
Day three.......156
Day three(2)....1


Days four and five did not fare well. 

Day one.........25
Day two.........148.
Day three.......156
Day three(2)....1
Day four........<40>
Day five.......<15>
Day six...........69

Total for six days..............344u

Sam
Title: Re: Test of the /Compa-LeBear-17Black Cadence System
Post by: bjb007 on July 26, 2008, 11:15:10 PM
Sam

Seems you've made a mess of that video link.
Care to try again?

PS Always check links before posting is a good idea.!
Title: Re: Test of the /Compa-LeBear-17Black Cadence System
Post by: TwoCatSam on July 26, 2008, 11:57:27 PM
Ok, it's still not what I wanted.  I will try harder!

But it's better.....

Edit:  OK, I got it now.  When you see the "PLAY NOW" bar click on it and then click again.  That will take you directly to the Motion Box website where my video is ready to play.  Position your cursor just above the bottom brown portion of the screen and the bar will appear and you may go full screen.

Thank you, bj.  At least one person looked at it....or tried to.

Sam
Title: Re: Test of the /Compa-LeBear-17Black Cadence System
Post by: roules on July 28, 2008, 06:11:34 AM
I watched the video also Sam but I didn't fully understand how you were betting.

Gave the 0 3 5 7 cadence system a run today on a crowded Dublinbet table. The results were encouraging so I tested a few other sessions from past Dublinbet spins.
For todays spins I tested 2 hits in 3 first....190 spins
-362  not real crash hot

So I reverted to playing the cadences (0 3 5 7) after a single showing
190 spins
112   +294
11     +318
1       +102
12     +484
21     +476 (just for the heck of it - obviously a win on the second hit leaves -6)

So I tested some more, just using 11, 12 and 112 progressions.
182 spins
112    +240
11     +222
12      +250

186 spins
112    +148
11      +156
12      +242

232 spins
112   -194
11     -10
12      0

This last session....go figure? It did poorly compared to the other sessions. There were plenty of numbers for the taking, many strings  like 17 11 13 33 30 35 36 21 35 23 27 20 17 13 26 but the way this was played doesn't allow for "pressed" bets. The results have got me concentrating on the 12 play now for obvious reasons and even in this session it still didn't lose. 232 spins is probably a longer than average session for me so I might've taken the money/small loss and ran after 100-150 spins anyway had I been playing this on the day.

I considered testing both cadences side by side (the 1 2 6 9) but can't really see a need, I'll keep flogging this for a while. Should be easy to make at least 50-100 units per session with this. Happy days.....

Roules


PS - thanks to Compa and LeBear for the original idea  ;)
Title: Re: Test of the /Compa-LeBear-17Black Cadence System
Post by: roules on July 28, 2008, 06:18:06 AM
And in case it's not clear, here's how it was played/tested:

2
16
11
15 - trigger
18 - miss
10 - win
19
36
34
25 - trigger
0 - miss
3 - win
1
9
7 - trigger
7 - win
0
32
25 - trigger
2
4 - loss if playing 12 or 11
20 - win if playing 112
etc
Title: Re: Test of the /Compa-LeBear-17Black Cadence System
Post by: TwoCatSam on July 28, 2008, 10:07:19 AM
roules

There are only a couple of places in there where I played the Compa system.  Mostly I was playing the other one Leon/murph.  I posted it wrong and am scared to try to change it.

As to having a bad day, I had two in a row.  Go figure?  No, you can't figure it at all! LOL

Sam
Title: Re: Test of the /Compa-LeBear-17Black Cadence System Mark I
Post by: TwoCatSam on July 28, 2008, 04:49:14 PM
OK

Someone is going to have to point out to me what is wrong with this system!

Today at Wild Jack was +131  Here's our running total

Day one.........25
Day two.........148.
Day three.......156
Day three(2)....1
Day four........<40>
Day five.......<15>
Day six...........69
Day 7 7.28.8...131

Running flat-bet total............475u.

Sam
Title: Re: Test of the /Compa-LeBear-17Black Cadence System Mark I
Post by: MattyMattz on July 28, 2008, 05:10:28 PM
excellent news TCS,
I gotta get off me arse, stop playing poker, and test all these bad boys out as well.

Cheers,
Matt
Title: Re: Test of the /Compa-LeBear-17Black Cadence System Mark I
Post by: TwoCatSam on July 28, 2008, 05:20:28 PM
Matt

Yes, someone should test this at other casinos like Dublin. 

I'm feeling very positive about this thing. 

/Compa, LeBear and 17Black have done us a bang-up job.  I'm having fun testing and praying!!  LOL

Sam
Title: Re: Test of the /Compa-LeBear-17Black Cadence System Mark I
Post by: roules on July 29, 2008, 06:46:37 AM
QuoteYes, someone should test this at other casinos like Dublin.

Nearly 800 spins at DB not enough mate? lol
I'll sift through some more this week....

I'm going searching for some Bet365 spins to see how it fares. I'm not a big fan of 365 but I can play there in pounds sterling, so each pound is a bit over $2AUD (instant double leverage :) )

roules
Title: Re: Test of the /Compa-LeBear-17Black Cadence System Mark I
Post by: TwoCatSam on July 29, 2008, 09:40:13 AM
roules, you wrote:

"Nearly 800 spins at DB not enough mate? lol"  Did someone do an 800 spin Dublin test on this system?  I missed their post.  Where is it?

Sam
Title: Re: Test of the /Compa-LeBear-17Black Cadence System Mark I
Post by: roules on July 29, 2008, 04:48:53 PM
8 and 9 replies ago (page 2) in this very thread mate.
Although I'm guessing this might not count since I don't think I'm testing/playing to the exact original rules.

Played with real $ last night - up 32 units in 50 spins playing with 11 progression   :D


roules
Title: Re: Test of the /Compa-LeBear-17Black Cadence System Mark I
Post by: TwoCatSam on July 29, 2008, 05:03:04 PM
Good Grief roules

You sat for 232 spins?  You one tough cookie!

I think you have misunderstood how to play Mark I.  You must have two 0357 cadence numbers within the last three spins and there must be two non-cadence numbers preceding those.  Example"

12
1
3
8
7.........trigger

12
1
3
8
3
7.....no trigger as the three before the eight does not allow for two numbers for the 2 out of 3.

Mind is going on overload as it is; too many irons in the fire.  Must take a break!  Glad the wife is coming home to take her stick and run me off this darn machine!

Sam
Title: Re: Test of the /Compa-LeBear-17Black Cadence System Mark I
Post by: legend19 on July 31, 2008, 11:00:44 AM
Ok...todays results for 17black from me:
Today it was bad day I think...a have made about 100spins
So first line is: 0,3,5,7
second line is: 2,4,6
And third line is: 1,8,9

I am noting lines not numbers...if you wish I can send you numbers also..if it is easier for you?
I was playing live roullete on bet365...
My strategy is 1123

3
3
1
2
3
3
3
3-start betting
2
3
3-quit lose
2
1
1
1
1
3
3
2
2
1-start and win
2
1
1
1
2
1
1
2
3
1
1
1
3
3
1
3
2
1
1
3
2
3
1
3
1
2
3
2
1
2
1
3
1
1
2
3
2
2
2-start betting
3
2
2-quit and lose
2
2
2
3
1
1
3
2
1
1
2
2
1
1
1
3
1
3
3
1
3
2
2
1
1
2
2
2
3
1-start betting and win
1
2
1
1
2
2
1
3
1
2

This was bad...we will see in the future what will this bring to me  :)

Yesterday results I have also...and here they are:

3
3
1
3
3
2
3
1-start betting and win
3
2
1
2
2
2
2
1-start playing and win
2
2
1
1
1
1
3
3
1
1
1
1
2
1
2
2
3
3
1-start betting and win
2
3
2
1
1
3
1
3
1
1
2
1
1
2
1
1
2
1
2
2
3
1
3
1
3
3
1
2
1
3
3
1
2
1
2
1
1
2
2
1
1
1
2
1
3
3
2
3
2-start betting
3
2
1-win
1
2
1
1
2
1
2
1
3
1
1
3
1
1
1
1
3
1
3
2
2
1
1
1
1
2
2
2
3
2-start betting
1-win

This is it from me for now...

Wish you best of the best to all!



Title: Re: Test of the /Compa-LeBear-17Black Cadence System Mark I
Post by: legend19 on July 31, 2008, 01:45:58 PM
Ok..now again...fresh result...worm as bread,haha  8)

For now i am losing on that system  ;)Again playing on bet365 live roulette

3
2
3
1
3
1
1
3
2
1
3
2
2
1
1
3
2
3
1
2
2
1
3
2
1
2
3
2
2
2- start betting
3
3
2-quit and lose
3
2
1
2
2
2
1
1
3
2
3
1
1
1
3
1
1
1
2
1
2
2
1
3
2
2
1
2
2
2
3
2-start betting
3
3
3-quit and lose
2
1
2
2
3
2
3-start betting
3
2
3-quit and lose

Am i something doing wrong or just systems have bad day or is system not working?
Well i will play more and will see after long term what will bring me on...for now i am not so happy :)
And if anybody watching that what i am writening...or am i just doing it for my fun?

wish you best of the best to all
Title: Re: Test of the /Compa-LeBear-17Black Cadence System Mark I
Post by: legend19 on July 31, 2008, 04:36:57 PM
After about 300turns i am in -411units playing system 1123...If i would play 112 then is -275units...
I will look for about 3000spins what is then happening and not play with real money no more  ;)

wish you best of the best to all!
Title: Re: Test of the /Compa-LeBear-17Black Cadence System Mark I
Post by: Natural9 on July 31, 2008, 05:56:15 PM
My results have had a downturn too seems to get in a loop when you change it changes back anyhow we see how the mark 111 version goes
Title: Re: Test of the /Compa-LeBear-17Black Cadence System Mark I
Post by: TwoCatSam on August 13, 2008, 07:24:07 PM
Well, back to this for a while.  All the time I've been working on the Selecta4 System by Mr. Chips, I've been watching this cadence.  I see it hit again and again and decided to resume the study.

8.12.8  Wild Jack......90 profit.


Day one.........25
Day two.........148
Day three.......156
Day three(2)....1
Day four..........90

Total................420

Sam
Title: Re: Test of the /Compa-LeBear-17Black Cadence System Mark I
Post by: TwoCatSam on August 15, 2008, 10:27:58 AM
Bad day on 8.14.8

Loss of 222


Day one.........25
Day two.........148
Day three.......156
Day three(2)....1
Day four..........90
8.14.8...........<222>
Total..............198

Sam
Title: Re: Test of the /Compa-LeBear-17Black Cadence System Mark I
Post by: TwoCatSam on August 17, 2008, 02:14:19 AM
Better day.....

The 0 3 5 7 cadence produced exactly 100u profit.  The 5-breaker-resume system lost 15 for a total of 85.


Day one.........25
Day two.........148
Day three.......156
Day three(2)....1
Day four..........90
8.14.8...........<222>
8.16.8.............85
Total..............283

Still good.

Sam
Title: Re: Test of the /Compa-LeBear-17Black Cadence System Mark I
Post by: TwoCatSam on August 18, 2008, 10:52:45 PM
Day one.........25
Day two.........148
Day three.......156
Day three(2)....1
Day four..........90
8.14.8...........<222>
8.16.8.............85
8.18.8.............<168>
Total..............115


Title: Re: Test of the /Compa-LeBear-17Black Cadence System Mark I
Post by: TwoCatSam on August 19, 2008, 10:52:22 PM
Another rough day......

Day one.........25
Day two.........148
Day three.......156
Day three(2)....1
Day four..........90
8.14.8...........<222>
8.16.8.............85
8.18.8.............<168>
8.19.8..............<96>
Total..............19
Title: Re: Test of the /Compa-LeBear-17Black Cadence System Mark I
Post by: Natural9 on August 20, 2008, 12:14:43 AM
Quote from: TwoCatSam on August 19, 2008, 10:52:22 PM
Another rough day......

Day one.........25
Day two.........148
Day three.......156
Day three(2)....1
Day four..........90
8.14.8...........<222>
8.16.8.............85
8.18.8.............<168>
8.19.8..............<96>
Total..............19

Hmm are we close to failure point
Title: Re: Test of the /Compa-LeBear-17Black Cadence System Mark I
Post by: TwoCatSam on August 20, 2008, 11:07:34 AM
We shall see!

In the last couple of days the 1 2 6 9 cadence has been dominant.  Could have made a fortune playing it.

Why do things switch?  That is the question!

Sam
Title: Re: Test of the /Compa-LeBear-17Black Cadence System Mark I
Post by: TwoCatSam on August 20, 2008, 08:29:48 PM

Day one.........25
Day two.........148
Day three.......156
Day three(2)....1
Day four..........90
8.14.8...........<222>
8.16.8.............85
8.18.8.............<168>
8.19.8..............<96>
8.20.8.............<99>
Total..............<80>
Title: Re: Test of the /Compa-LeBear-17Black Cadence System Mark I
Post by: Natural9 on August 21, 2008, 08:54:59 PM
Quote from: TwoCatSam on August 20, 2008, 11:07:34 AM
We shall see!

In the last couple of days the 1 2 6 9 cadence has been dominant.  Could have made a fortune playing it.

Why do things switch?  That is the question!

Sam

The problem is is if you switch it liable to switch too so you chasing your  tail coming up with mechanical way of playing that wins consistantly is tough i guess that  why people say there no holy grail of gambling


Rodney
Title: Re: Test of the /Compa-LeBear-17Black Cadence System Mark I
Post by: TwoCatSam on August 21, 2008, 09:08:20 PM
Rodney

I agree.  Two switch or not to switch; that is the question!

But.........this is the absolute easiest system to test, so I won't quit.  You can do it just by scanning.

Sam
Title: TEST ENDED
Post by: TwoCatSam on August 22, 2008, 10:13:29 PM
I went through almost 200 numbers today and the 0357 cadence was again far outrun by the 1269 at Riverbelle. 

At this point, we're so far in the hole, we could probably never dig out, so I see no need to continue.

This is not for me.

Sam