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Title: Victor's 5 Line w/ LW Method
Post by: bloomone2002 on April 03, 2008, 01:39:08 PM
Does anyone have the details of how to process the Method by Victor using the 5 line and LW. I understand that the the links were at VIP forum and RouletteForum.net and is link is dead and the other is wiped from the database.

Thanks

Bloom
Title: Re: Victor's 5 Line w/ LW Method
Post by: Panopticon on April 04, 2008, 08:17:34 AM
I was just wondering the same.... ::)
Title: Re: Victor's 5 Line w/ LW Method
Post by: MattyMattz on April 04, 2008, 10:06:02 AM
I'm pretty sure it was also posted at Vic's old VLS website...  

I'm sure there's a link to that around here somewhere.  I'll see if I can find it.

Matt
Title: Re: Victor's 5 Line w/ LW Method
Post by: hermes on April 04, 2008, 06:27:46 PM
Victor don't tease them give them the 5 line and the Lw link. If it still exist?
Hermes
Title: Re: Victor's 5 Line w/ LW Method
Post by: twackler on April 14, 2008, 05:13:38 PM
Come on victor!
Title: Re: Victor's 5 Line w/ LW Method
Post by: admin on April 14, 2008, 05:20:51 PM
No link yet brothers, typing... typing... also creating the module for you guys to test and get the patterns easily.

I'll better provide a summary on its short form. To recreate the original posts is lenghty.
Title: Re: Victor's 5 Line w/ LW Method
Post by: admin on April 14, 2008, 05:45:07 PM
OK, the 5-line event of the original post is "Line Jump". For generating the Lw's this is the criterion:


Best trending patterns to bet are:
- wLw
- wLLw
- Lww

Notice "Lww" is "two w's after an L", so it can be LLLLLLLww


Title: Re: Victor's 5 Line w/ LW Method
Post by: admin on April 14, 2008, 05:47:37 PM
The bet is considered like this (highlighted):

- wL[highlight]w[/highlight]
- wLL[highlight]w[/highlight]
- Lw[highlight]w[/highlight]
Title: Re: Victor's 5 Line w/ LW Method
Post by: admin on April 14, 2008, 06:09:02 PM
When the w's are dominating and you want to ride them, I recommend the "[highlight]1 in 4[/highlight]" approach.

Meaning simply doing like this:
...Lnolinksw(w)nolinks(w)nolinks(w)nolinks(w)...

as you see, betting 1 time, skipping 3.

We need the VLSroulette.com/Software module for quick and easy generation of Lw patterns for this, then we can recreate the thread using harmburg actuals.  :thumbsup:

I finish Diarmaid's "Same/Opposite" module first (it is already announced) and then proceed with this one. :)

Sorry for the delay folks... there have been so many things going on!!! I deeply apologize for having skipped this one  :-[, but as the wheel keeps spinning we can still start the tests.
Title: Re: Victor's 5 Line w/ LW Method
Post by: bloomone2002 on April 14, 2008, 06:29:13 PM
How do you select your 5 lines?
Title: Re: Victor's 5 Line w/ LW Method
Post by: hermes on April 14, 2008, 09:50:29 PM
bloomoone, you bet all other lines, only not the last fallen. After while you can chose not to bet on the least coming line. The second one can make miracles. I won once with this strategy 26 times in row. I had to leave the casino because all dealers was looking on me.
Hermes
Title: Re: Victor's 5 Line w/ LW Method
Post by: bloomone2002 on April 14, 2008, 09:59:06 PM
Wow, that's very inspiring. I soon as I get all of the details on this system with a sample spins workout, then I can begin to test this method.
Bloom
Title: Re: Victor's 5 Line w/ LW Method
Post by: bloomone2002 on April 19, 2008, 02:10:23 AM
So 5 lines = 5streets or is equal to 15#s?
Victor is their any more to this system and method?
Title: Re: Victor's 5 Line w/ LW Method
Post by: admin on April 19, 2008, 10:31:24 AM
It is all about human-based pattern reconition.

The ones mentioned above are te best triggers acording to me, but others can and will set their own.

As this module is not so hard to code, this one gets into next release. Hopefully today.
Title: Re: Victor's 5 Line w/ LW Method
Post by: bloomone2002 on April 19, 2008, 01:08:40 PM
Great, I look forward to the next release. Im still a little unclear about a few things.  ie. what is a line of numbers, it is a street or a double street?
Title: Re: Victor's 5 Line w/ LW Method
Post by: admin on April 19, 2008, 01:17:25 PM
Line = Double-street  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Victor's 5 Line w/ LW Method
Post by: bloomone2002 on April 19, 2008, 02:38:36 PM
QuoteWhen the w's are dominating and you want to ride them, I recommend the "[highlight]1 in 4[/highlight]" approach.

Meaning simply doing like this:
...Lnolinksw(w)nolinks(w)nolinks(w)nolinks(w)...

as you see, betting 1 time, skipping 3.

We need the VLSroulette.com/Software module for quick and easy generation of Lw patterns for this, then we can recreate the thread using harmburg actuals.  :thumbsup:

I finish Diarmaid's "Same/Opposite" module first (it is already announced) and then proceed with this one. :)

Sorry for the delay folks... there have been so many things going on!!! I deeply apologize for having skipped this one  :-[, but as the wheel keeps spinning we can still start the tests.

Victor where is the Diarmaid's Same/opposite module link that you are referring to....it is the one on the other forum?
Title: Re: Victor's 5 Line w/ LW Method
Post by: cps10 on April 19, 2008, 05:53:01 PM
bloomone2002

I like your name - we have a Bloom grocery store in our neighborhood!  :thumbsup:

Anyway, check out my post in Strategy/Situational Play on how I bet Victor's 5-line method. I have been playing this the past couple of days with moderate success. Best of luck!
Title: Re: Victor's 5 Line w/ LW Method
Post by: bloomone2002 on April 19, 2008, 08:17:55 PM
Cool cps10, a grocey store call Bloom. I glad u like it.  Yeah, I had already review your post after I realized from victor that 5 lines is 30#s. your approach to this is very interesting. Anything moderate or higher is a great place to be. So thanks very much. i think im about ready to start testing some of my favorites. Are you playing this approach for real or fun.
Bloom
Title: Re: Victor's 5 Line w/ LW Method
Post by: cps10 on April 19, 2008, 09:14:00 PM
Bloomone2002

I have been playing via Dublinbet for the past couple of days now. Have yet to run into that dreaded first loss, but I expect it to happen at some point. However, that being said, I am hoping that when it does occur, I am well into the profit figures. And when it does happen, I am working on a recovery method. I will probably use this same method, but will increase the stakes a bit. This will depend on the pattern that occurs. Meaning if that one time where the registry goes 'LL', then how many times has this happened? Is it once every 10? every 20? That will help me determine how to recover.
Title: Re: Victor's 5 Line w/ LW Method
Post by: bloomone2002 on April 19, 2008, 09:36:47 PM
All the best with that keep us posted!, that's positive! i plan to give it a shot also. Since, I can only play Dublinbet for fun (testing), too bad I cant play it for real being a US player
Title: Re: Victor's 5 Line w/ LW Method
Post by: cps10 on April 20, 2008, 01:42:23 PM
This is true. I am a US player as well. I may start playing at Riverbelle on the recommendation of Sam, though. I will also be going to casinos regularly.
Title: Re: Victor's 5 Line w/ LW Method
Post by: bloomone2002 on April 20, 2008, 02:15:37 PM
yeah, im glad someone recommended Riverbelle and Suite332, because they were on my radar but i wanted make sure they were viable live wheels. Thanks for the update. Im going to have to do same, a combination of on and offline. Hope you've got a winning system for the long run. Double and single wheels.

I left you a PM also.
Title: Re: Victor's 5 Line w/ LW Method
Post by: cps10 on April 20, 2008, 03:32:53 PM
Quoteyeah, im glad someone recommended Riverbelle and Suite332, because they were on my radar but i wanted make sure they were viable live wheels. Thanks for the update. Im going to have to do same, a combination of on and offline. Hope you've got a winning system for the long run. Double and single wheels.

I left you a PM also.


I have a couple of good ones that I'm working on...hopefully that will continue to keep me in profit.
Title: Re: Victor's 5 Line w/ LW Method
Post by: bloomone2002 on April 20, 2008, 05:16:15 PM
QuoteI have a couple of good ones that I'm working on...hopefully that will continue to keep me in profit.

All the best on that cps10, im rooting for you. By the way, you do know who I am?
Title: Re: Victor's 5 Line w/ LW Method
Post by: cps10 on April 20, 2008, 10:47:23 PM
Yessir...I'm pretty sure that I know who you are  :) How's the system study going?
Title: Re: Victor's 5 Line w/ LW Method
Post by: bloomone2002 on April 20, 2008, 11:00:20 PM
lol, going great  ;D...anyway, i found the information, thanks, i'm just trying to sort through it and make send of the application as it applies. Almost, ready to start testing.
Title: Re: Victor's 5 Line w/ LW Method
Post by: cps10 on April 20, 2008, 11:12:21 PM
Good...keep up the testing. That will only make you more confident! Have you been studying lotto anymore at all?
Title: Re: Victor's 5 Line w/ LW Method
Post by: bloomone2002 on April 20, 2008, 11:21:52 PM
No, i recently stopped. I decided i need a bigger bankroll to hedge my bets. I think your sector and series bets with progressions have some of the best value, along with some of Lanterns filtering, But a $5,000 min bankroll is needed. This roulette venture, i can use 1/10 of that bankroll and make a similar financial impact i believe, then use some of those resources to leverage and re-invest into the lotto and have some more fun and 5dimes is still the best venure. What about You?
Title: Re: Victor's 5 Line w/ LW Method
Post by: cps10 on April 21, 2008, 09:31:06 AM
Not in a while. I concentrate most of my efforts with roulette and poker.
Title: Re: Victor's 5 Line w/ LW Method
Post by: bloomone2002 on April 21, 2008, 02:38:43 PM
@ cps10, I understand.


@Victor, are we going to continue are discussion/instruction on the 5 line system today?
Title: Re: Victor's 5 Line w/ LW Method
Post by: admin on April 21, 2008, 08:23:36 PM
Sure we can. In fact I did have a module in the making which includes some selection for 5 lines, the "JPN" module (Jump / Previous / Next):
nolinks://vlsroulette.com/software/download/VLSroulette.com_FiveLinesJPN_BETA.zip

Load some actuals on the layout, hit "RUN" and see the patterns form automagically.

Generate them, paste some over here and let's see what we can extract. This is the best way to learn!
Title: Re: Victor's 5 Line w/ LW Method
Post by: Panopticon on April 22, 2008, 03:23:46 PM
Victor a big  thanx for all your efforts...
Title: Re: Victor's 5 Line w/ LW Method
Post by: admin on April 22, 2008, 09:44:41 PM
Panopticon, it is always a pleasure.

And be certain that it is the way to learn: with actual practice.

At the original exposition we used this methodology. Posters such as TwoCatSam would expose the Lw registry and then we extract the teaching. It is the best form.

When the registry is posted, first thing to do is to try to catch the patterns' rithm... periods where there are more w's than expected and more L's than expected. We need to get familiar with both. Hunting L's can be the most profitable, specially with these 5-line registries, as for hunting L's you only bet on 6/7 numbers :)
Title: Re: Victor's 5 Line w/ LW Method
Post by: Natural9 on April 22, 2008, 11:44:35 PM
Be quite a bit harder with lines than on dozens would it Victor do you hunt L once it hits like 3 in row something like this LLWWWWLLLWWLLWWWWLLL
Title: Re: Victor's 5 Line w/ LW Method
Post by: admin on April 22, 2008, 11:57:28 PM
Natural, m8, yes it is trickier. L's hunting here is only for a compensation scenario: way too much w's, then an "L" = proper time to give it a shot at hunting a second one.

Anyway, when bloomone provides the registry, we will look at it... to see the times of concentration and dispersion and get used to them.

Remember, while there are absolutely no guarantees in gambling, it is also true that if we back frequent events, we will be frequent winners.

Now we have to see for ourselves what is the "normal" (most frequent) short-term distribution in the samples in order to spot at which part or tram of the Lw stream we are, and act properly.

Best regards.
Victor
Title: Re: Victor's 5 Line w/ LW Method
Post by: bloomone2002 on April 25, 2008, 01:32:02 PM
QuoteNatural, m8, yes it is trickier. L's hunting here is only for a compensation scenario: way too much w's, then an "L" = proper time to give it a shot at hunting a second one.

Anyway, when bloomone provides the registry, we will look at it... to see the times of concentration and dispersion and get used to them.

Remember, while there are absolutely no guarantees in gambling, it is also true that if we back frequent events, we will be frequent winners.

Now we have to see for ourselves what is the "normal" (most frequent) short-term distribution in the samples in order to spot at which part or tram of the Lw stream we are, and act properly.

Best regards.
Victor

Victor, I'm sure how you want me to use the application, even after your instructions. I sent you a couple PMs. I would like to learn how to best use this system.
here is a list of 100 live spins
1      28
2      36
3      36
4      6
5      36
6      30
7      4
8      33
9      33
10      10
11      28
12      30
13      12
14      31
15      32
16      17
17      30
18      29
19      32
20      28
21      16
22      6
23      35
24      8
25      26
26      35
27      25
28      3
29      3
30      16
31      32
32      7
33      35
34      3
35      8
36      22
37      17
38      24
39      20
40      31
41      25
42      35
43      13
44      6
45      31
46      2
47      33
48      15
49      34
50      18
51      28
52      18
53      15
54      2
55      0
56      3
57      20
58      23
59      32
60      6
61      0
62      16
63      36
64      0
65      19
66      32
67      19
68      29
69      34
70      5
71      0
72      6
73      35
74      7
75      16
76      10
77      17
78      24
79      23
80      15
81      32
82      14
83      15
84      9
85      33
86      22
87      26
88      10
89      4
90      6
91      14
92      28
93      33
94      19
95      17
96      3
97      33
98      35
99      19
100      17

Thanks
Bloom
Title: Re: Victor's 5 Line w/ LW Method
Post by: Neuro on December 29, 2008, 07:26:47 AM
Quote from: VLSroulette on April 21, 2008, 08:23:36 PM
Sure we can. In fact I did have a module in the making which includes some selection for 5 lines, the "JPN" module (Jump / Previous / Next):
nolinks://vlsroulette.com/software/download/VLSroulette.com_FiveLinesJPN_BETA.zip (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/software/download/VLSroulette.com_FiveLinesJPN_BETA.zip)

Load some actuals on the layout, hit "RUN" and see the patterns form automagically.

Generate them, paste some over here and let's see what we can extract. This is the best way to learn!
Where do I find the File FiveLinesJPN_BETA.zip to Download?
Thank you
Title: Re: Victor's 5 Line w/ LW Method
Post by: Neuro on January 01, 2009, 03:23:34 PM
Some news?