An old system

[TwoCatSam]

Just pick any 3 numbers, the results will be the same. Forget all the voodoo..

Spike

I do so love voodoo.  Surely you're not saying that is a worthless idea, also! 

Say it ain't so!

Sam

[kav]

Sam and sniper,

I was joking of course, but thanks for your kindness anyway.

Mane,
Good question. I believe MrJ proposed it in the first way, but Iwonder tested it with the later (starting from scratch).

[Allin]

Hi Friends,

     Sorry guys just back from a Project, 2 days ago I saw your post. It attracted my eyes.  So wrote a program and used Random.Org 80K of numbers.

Results are very bad, Not sure How you are gaining.

Simulation 1:-     I went +2000 one time, but gradually it come back to -3771.

Simulation 2:-     I went +1700 one time, but gradually it come back to -4599.

Simulation 3:-     I went +700 one time, but gradually it come back to -2631.

One thing to note though, out of 20 tries, I got only onetime +6K(only one simulation put in positive).

Overall not very good. But it was a good try from your end.

Regards
 

[Lanky]

Hi Allin .

Did You start off with 0-1-2 or did You just pick any 3 numbers >

Lanky.

[Allin]

Hi Lanky,

     My logic picks 3 lowest  un-drawn numbers.

     Example :- 0,1,5,7,8,9,19,34

     Myselection is 0,1,5

     min(lowest1),     min(lowest2),      min(lowest3)

     Just to maintain consistency, i did that way.  Let me know if you want to change the selection criteria.

Regards



     

[Allin]

Just to add one more point

"I tried waiting 4 spins between each bet". 


Regards

[Lanky]

Hi Lanky,

    My logic picks 3 lowest  un-drawn numbers.

    Example :- 0,1,5,7,8,9,19,34

    Myselection is 0,1,5

    min(lowest1),     min(lowest2),      min(lowest3)

    Just to maintain consistency, I did that way.  Let me know if you want to change the selection criteria.

Regards
   

Hi Allin.

Mate its My understanding that the past numbers that have come out Before You have played has no bearing on this system.

For example lets say You walk into the Casino or Log on-line at say either 2pm or 8pm.
What numbers that have come out before We have our first bet is irrelevant.

We would still place the bets on 0-1-2.

And if We did and either of those numbers hit We would immediately bet 0-1-2 again.

Just to add one more point

"I tried waiting 4 spins between each bet".  
Regards

OK so by that I am assuming that You went.

Bet 0-1-2
Nb
Nb
Nb
Nb
Bet 0-1-2 (IF none of them have been hit on the 4 no bets)

Which would be right.

I have contacted Iwonder by phone and He is going to have a look at this thread later.
His business is running at too fast a pace at the moment to answer right away.

Your Friend.

Lanky.

[Allin]

Hi Friends,

     Tried that approach as well, if it is 0-1-2/minimum of 3 undrawn numbers results are same.

     Also one more point to note, waiting 4 spins between bets, or 1 spin
     between bets make no difference as well.

Regards

[noteboom]

I found this method quite interesting,   Intead of betting on 3 numbers straight away though.  I keep spinning without betting until there are 3 numbers that have not come out.  Then I bet on those 3 numbers with the Prog  1 U x 9 S, 2 U x 6 S, 3 U x 4 S, 4 U x 3 S etc.  I find you don't lose as much earlier on.

[Lanky]

Hi Friends,

     Tried that approach as well, if it is 0-1-2/minimum of 3 undrawn numbers results are same.

     Also one more point to note, waiting 4 spins between bets, or 1 spin
     between bets make no difference as well.

Regards

Hi Allin .

Mate just to make sure We are both on the same page here ...

I am talking about a Single Zero wheel.........are your findings on that wheel ??

If so Maybe We could do a test here on the Forum.

Your Friend.

Lanky.

[Iwonder]

Hi Guys
Thanks for the interest in the thread.

Firstly: Noteboom:
Don't play this way.  It hurts.  I've tried it and it failed.  You will wait a long time and then get stung.

Secondly:  Allin

Thanks for your testing.  I will bear it in mind.  There are only two points I will make.

1.   I have never played this on RNG, or tested it on random.org numbers.  So I can't comment on it's success or otherwise within these realms.  I have only ever tested this on real numbers and only ever played it on live wheels.

2.  I am glad that you have tested this to the extent that you have.  I hope you have received a result that you believe in and can make your own decision from this point.  My decisions have not been altered by your findings, but that is my perogative.  I have already, within this thread, explained that I have no proof, other than a sample test, that this works and have further publicly posted my personal stop/loss point at which time I will announce to this board my intentions of quiting this method of play.
I wish you nothing but success in the future, and I am sure you will find it - with your tenacity and obvious skills - you will come up with something that works for you. 

Thirdly to Lanky:
Cheers mate you're a true soldier of Christ.


Cheers
Iwonder

[RayManZ]

Ok,

I have made a little web program to test this and on RNG it has failed all the time.  10. 000 spins, 100. 000, 1. 000. 000 spins.  I all failed.  Tried everything posted here.

If someone could provide a txt file with a number on every line i can run those too to see if it makes a difference.

[Lanky]

Ok,

I have made a little web program to test this and on RNG it has failed all the time.  10. 000 spins, 100. 000, 1. 000. 000 spins.  I all failed.  Tried everything posted here.

If someone could provide a txt file with a number on every line I can run those too to see if it makes a difference.

Hi Mate.

Iwonder has already stated that it has always been played in real Casino's or on real wheels using single Zero wheels.

This was all done above board with the testing and the 3 million spins that it was tested on in the first place were not Iwonder's own numbers.

The numbers were supplied to Iwonder by someone else.

All different types of testing was done before real money was bet and won with this method.

Lanky.

[birdhands]

I've read this thread probably four times and the best conclusion I can come to is that iwonder's system worked perfectly for him and not at all for anyone else, possibly because of some cosmic alignment on his part.  Unless no one ever tried it on a live wheel, which would surprise me, given his testimony.  Am I alone in this?  Is there some other less flakey explanation for iwonder's success?

Ever curious and fascinated,
Sam

[birdhands]

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