Inverted Fibonacci with stop loss and money management control.

[Marven]

A) If you want to play the game and have some fun you can use flat betting and progression.
B) You can do so and risk less money then using an agressive staking plan like martingale.
C) This is not a Holy Grail because it does not exist.
D) If you don't know how to place your bets when zero strikes, then don't play.

A) That's called gambling, no thanks.
B) That's called gambling, no thanks.
C) That's called gambling, no thanks.
D) Are you serious? Unless you're psychic or use physics, how would you know if the zero will or won't hit again once it does hit?

And I have won over 800 000 with actuals and zero did not have any serios effect on that.

800.000 placed flat bets? I doubt.

So when you talk and make statment don't try to bullshit some one who has been there and done that.

Calm down, it's just a harmless debate.

Regards,
Marven

[lucky_strike]

800.000 placed flat bets?

The test was made with an 12 step fibo progression that did not win at every step.
It did not fail but if I would continue it would fail at some point as every thing.

That's called gambling, no thanks.

Gambling -lol- what are you doing here?
This is a gambling forum not a forum for advance play!

There is one section and I don't see you make any posts there.
I only see you making post about gambling.

Maybe I am wrong then plz correct me.
If you have made a post about advance play then I would like to have the link so I can read about it.

Calm down

No need I am

And to begin with no one ask you to play this way and no one ask you to tell us what we alredy know.

1) There is no edge playing even money bets or any other way you want to turnaround numbers and play.
2) The house edge will never go away.
3) There is no escape from fluctation.
4) No progression change any thing and you can't beat the game flat betting.

Cheers

[winkel]

There are always two ways to reply:

1. the intelligent and constructive way: I proof, why this is going wrong and give hints where the problems are.

2. the ever stupid way: I recall what all Nay-Sayers claim: Nothing ever worked so nothing will ever work.

solution: Throw all out who fit into possibility #2.
There is no need to have them here.

br
winkel

[Marven]

*sighs*

There is one section and I don't see you make any posts there.
I only see you making post about gambling.

Maybe I am wrong then plz correct me.
If you have made a post about advance play then I would like to have the link so I can read about it.

Where I chose to post and not post is none of your business mate, nor is it of any relevance to this discussion. But if you insist, I do have some interest in advantage play, but I couldn't be further from mastering it because right now I am more into the study of randomness and human-based strategy play, and my posting naturally reflect that.

Now back on topic (which you seem to be avoiding and attacking me instead just because I don't agree with you):

You come to other threads and mention some obscurely explained random against random bet selection with a static rule and claim that no one can prove it loses because it can keep you up in profit for 5 years, while at the same time admitting that nothing but advantage play can give an edge.

You come to this thread and say it's not that hard to win 12 out of 12 EC bets, etc. And when someone who is smart enough to notice that that is an absurd claim questions it, you respond to him: "It is sad that your brain have limits to grasp that." backing your argument with "results come in waves".

You keep posting good sequences like this, just to back your claims:

L 1 -1
L 1 -2
W 2 +0
W 1 +1
W 1 +2
W 1 +3
L 1 +2
W 1 +3
W 1 +4
W 1 +5
W 1 +6
W 1 +7
L 1 +6
W 1 +7
W 1 +8
W 1 +9
L 1 +8
W 1 +9
W 1 +10
L 1 +9
W 1 +10
L 1 +9
L 1 +8
L 1 +7

Are you serious? I have been playing nothing but the EC's and came to know very well how they perform on average. And yes, simon is right.

I have an idea on what types of patterns they produce, and can evaluate their levels of elegance, tendencies in pattern distribution (whether towards statistical balance or lasting dominance on either sides), dominances in the raw outcomes (in relation to a determined baseline) and their different durations. Etc...

Does this tell you anything? It's a whole field of study, and just because you're not into it doesn't give you the right to say that anything that isn't under the category of advantage play is considered "gambling".

You also said that there is no need for the zero to be part of testing spin samples because it doesn't make a difference. And it displeases you that I disagree with such silly claim, saying: "HAHAHAHA you are so funny and I would like to know who talks about edge?"

Well I have one thing to say mate: If you DO know about the house edge, then act like it.

lol- what are you doing here?

What am I doing? I'm not taking everything you say for granted, that's what I'm doing.

Whenever you post something, make sure you can maturely take and react to critique, or don't post in the first place.

PS. I know whom to contact if this post ever gets deleted.

Thanks,
Marven

[I have cookies]

Where I chose to post and not post is none of your business mate,

If I post a system then there is none of your business mate and if I want a no sayer around to tell us what we all know I let you know

You come to other threads and mention some obscurely explained random against random bet selection with a static rule and claim that no one can prove it loses because it can keep you up in profit for 5 years, while at the same time admitting that nothing but advantage play can give an edge.

I have made two tests that pass 5 years of play.
Regarding random against random I say it can last one week or for ever.
But I have not test it that is up to any one to do that want to use it.
Maybe it fails twice in 100 000 or none.

You come to this thread and say it's not that hard to win 12 out of 12 EC bets

You can get 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 out of 12 any one can test it by them self they are not stypid
And you get many sequenses when it happens.

What am I doing? I'm not taking everything you say for granted, that's what I'm doing.

I don't ask any one to take any-thing for granted they have to read test and explore like I do

Cheers

[I have cookies]

There are always two ways to reply:

1. the intelligent and constructive way: I proof, why this is going wrong and give hints where the problems are.

2. the ever stupid way: I recall what all Nay-Sayers claim: Nothing ever worked so nothing will ever work.

solution: Throw all out who fit into possibility #2.
There is no need to have them here.

br
winkel

Regarding point 2 it would be easy I am a mod.
But I don't have any-thing against Marven's opinions.

Because I know that when you know there is no roulette system that will gain you an edge you can feel like you want to save the world from using one.
I have also been there but then I understand that advance play is not for every one.
Some just want to have some fun playing and get some food at there visit at a local casino.

Winkel

I think there is so many sad categories

Some think they will use a roulette system and make a living on playing roulette.
So they search the forum for different methods and some think they will find a Holy Grail.

Then there some that think advance play is the solution and end up with buying them self a roulette computer.
There is not many who know what it takes to learn and use VB.

Winkel I agree this is a never ending story at this forum.
If some one want to run 123 until it fails be my guest.
All gambling system fails.

But that will not keep me from posting systems or reply to them.
I still having fun, no-sayers have nothing to gain if they try to stop me from posting in this section.

Cheers

[freestyler]

Where I can FInd material for VB ?

[I have cookies]

Where I can FInd material for VB ?

1)A basic book from Laurance Scott goes for 299$.
Then he has an Advance book for 499$ with software.
He has a private forum 99$ for 1 year member-chip.

2)Then if you speak germany you have Pierre Basieux.

3)Jefco's VB

4)Foresters forum where you can read about very good roulette computers.
And there is an advance section with some great posts.

5)Use the chat room here at vls.com and talk to advantage players.

6)The best thing is to have a friend to split the money with for all the material.

Stop by the chat room and we can talk

Cheers

[nexus]

@i habe cookies. . .

do you speak German? When yes, let us talk.

cu

nexus

[I have cookies]

@I habe cookies. . .

do you speak German? When yes, let us talk.

cu

nexus

Sorry i don't.
I have some one who translate Pierre Basieux document and UWE methods for me.

Cheers

[I have cookies]

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