Labouchere to 2 dozen

[medo]

Hi I like this idea of yours and I am shure the figures men wont let you down as I for 1 would like 2 see what staking plan they com up with (common on Guys)When I am here I must ask BUJU are you still playing and winning or did others put you off .I hope this post stays alive for a long time as in my humble opinion its a good 1 . Keep'er Lit . Colin

Colin,
This bet as pure flat bet comes some on top on the long run,
Since am not great math,but think that it would do great on
Labouchere basis.Maybe somebody come along to help.
It was posted here recently by ex member but it seems that
nobody is interested for simple and true winning strategies,more
or less everyone thinks the more complicated bet the better...Wrong.

[Colin]

MEDO i do thank you for your good and fast answer Thanks again Colin

[medo]

Well Colin,
Unfortunatelly it seems that those guys are more interested
in crap of Hydra,so let it be,which only shows me what kind of
ppl. are we dealling here now.They can't see a winning bet if
one put them it in front of their noses.Therefore am deleting
my post with the bet,hopping that you have writen it down.

[GLC]

Colin,

Thought I would make a few suggestions for you to try with this system.

First, the standard 'labby' betting system is a pretty good betting system but you might try this minor tweak.  

First, write down the number 1.  your first bet is 1 unit on the two dozens or columns.  You can create a separate line of numbers for the columns and play both dozens and columns at the same time.  But you should keep them separate.  Just playing both at the same time.

As far as how to pick which dozens or columns to bet, you can use as someone said the last 2 to hit.  So, if dozen 1 and dozen 3 are the last two dozens to hit, then you bet 1 unit on doz 1 and 1 unit on doz 3.  If doz 2 hits, you lose and you add the sum of units bet to the end of the line which will now be  1 2 (the 2 is made up of the two 1 unit bets you made on your dozens).  Your next bet is determined the same way as buju said. add the two end numbers together.  In this case it will be 1 + 2 = 3 units on doz 3 and 3 units on doz 2 which are the last two dozs to hit.  Let's say that doz 3 spins which is a win for us.  Since we won, we cross off the two end numbers and since there were only two numbers in our line, this finishes our line, it means we have won 1 unit.  So put that unit in your pocket and start another line with the number 1.  Don't be tempted to start with a number higher than 1 to make more money, your unit amount can represent any amount you want, $1, $5, $10, $25, etc...

So we have written down 1 and we bet 1 unit on the last two dozens/columns that spun.  Let's say we get lucky and one of our doz hits.  We are now up 1 unit again so put that unit in your pocket.

Let's start again.  Write down 1.  Bet 1 on each dozen.  Lose. Add 2 to end of the line and the line= 1 2.  Now add the 1 and 2 together and bet 3 units on each dozen.  Lose, so add 3 to the end of the line and the line=1 2 3.  Now add the 1 and 3 together and bet 4 on both dozens.  Win.  Cross off the 1 and the 3 and our Line = 2.  Now bet 2 on both dozens.  Lose.  Line=2 4.  Now add 2 and 4 together and bet 6 on each dozen.  Win.  Line complete and up 1 unit again.  Into the pocket it goes.

Keep doing this until you've won your win goal or lost your stop loss amount and then take a break.

If this is a little too volatile for you, you can play exactly as buju suggested except I don't like to write down a bunch of numbers like 1 2 3 4 5 6 because you have to play for a lot of wins before finishing the line and the size of the bets can climb quickly.  The size of the bets can climb quickly no matter how you play this method.  One trick is if you get a line like  6 7 8 9 10 or even higher, you can split the line into 2 smaller lines and play each line separately.  Heck you can split the line into 3 or 4 or more small lines. This keeps your bets manageable.  You must remember when you split the larger line into 2 or more smaller lines, the total of the two or more smaller lines must equal the total of the larger line.

Bet selection methods are plentiful.  In addition to the one I used above, you can also pick the last to win and the one that lost furthest back.  So, if you had dozens 3 1 3 2 3 3 1 3 2 2 3 that had spun, you would bet dozen 3 because it won last and dozen 1 because it won further back than dozen 2.

In another thread it was suggested that you rotate betting the last 2 dozs to win with the last two dozs to lose.  This gives a pretty good shot at random.  

As we know, the wheel has no memory so I wouldn't get too caught up in which two to bet.  You could just pick 2 dozens and bet them every time.

You could use a trigger system such as Fender's most recent post, or if you could get Gizmo to spill the beans. I think he may be on to an excellent off-shoot of THE ZONE betting method, only reversed and turned inside out, whatever that means.

I suggest you read up on Victor's leftmost cancellation system posted somewhere in this forum which is a much safer method of betting,  more of a grind.  Depends on your playing style.

Ask questions and do some testing and tell me what you think, but don't give up due to lack of interest until you've explored this to your own satisfaction.

Cheers,  George

[foreverBOB]

as always clear as crystalclear water george.

Thanks for your friendly support,

Bob

[medo]

George,                                                                                                                                                                               With all due respect,but the question wasn't for 2 doz.or 2 column bets,
but similar bet/which is still 1/2 bet/........;

0,1,2,3 squad---------2 units
4-9       line -----------3 units
10-12  street--------- 1 unit...............refunds the money
19-24  line-------------3 units
25-30  line-------------3 units

-----it either wins 6 or loses 12

QUESTION;----How to applay Labouchere on this bet?
Would appreciate unswer on this.Thanks

[Colin]

George thanks for the very very helpfull post it was great and easy to understandso thanks again Colin

[GLC]

George,                                                                                                                                                                               With all due respect,but the question wasn't for 2 doz.or 2 column bets,
but similar bet/which is still 1/2 bet/........;

0,1,2,3 squad---------2 units
4-9       line -----------3 units
10-12  street--------- 1 unit...............refunds the money
19-24  line-------------3 units
25-30  line-------------3 units

-----it either wins 6 or loses 12

QUESTION;----How to applay Labouchere on this bet?
Would appreciate unswer on this.Thanks

Medo,

Sorry but I don't see this post in the above string of replys.  Maybe you removed it before I got a chance to read it.

If I were going to apply a Labouchere system to the above bet selection,  I think I would think of the above bet as 1 global bet consisting of 12 units.  I would write down the number 1.  This represents all 12 units.  If I win, I am up 6 units and my next bet is again 1 global bet of 12 units.  If I lose, I write the number 1 next to my first 1 and my line looks like; 1 1 .  Now I add each end together to get my next bet.  1 + 1 = 2 and 2 x12 = 24 units bet for the next spin.  In other words just double all the above betting units.  If I lose again, my line looks like; 1 1 2 and I add together the ends, 1 + 2 = 3 X 12 = 36 units or 3 times the above bet.  If I win this spin, I cross off the two end numbers and my line looks like; 2.  So I bet 2 X 12 = 24 units.  If I win this spin I have finished my line and should be up 6 units.

If I hit the 10 11 12 street, I just rebet the last bet and do nothing to my line since I didn't win or lose.

This is just off the top of my head, but I think it's right.

I like the looks of the system, although only luck can make it win with a flat bet over the long haul.  Which means that even a progression will lose if you just bet continuously.  You'll have to come  up with a stop loss and stop win to hope to beat the wheel. 

Like Mr. J says, exploit the winning streaks and never let lady luck leave the casino more than a mili-second before you do.

Let me know what you think.
GLC

[medo]

George,
Thanks for a nice explanation.
It's actually as I have imagined,but
I rather then prefer it as a flat bet....
but under certain condition,2 or eventually
3 virtuals LL OR LLL,then start punting,untill
you are 6 un. in plus,then reset.
You will not have many bets throughout a night session
of 350-400 spins,on 2 LL=about 25 bets,but will come
out as a winner,just flat beting.
Anybody can tested it and find out.

[balint]

George,
Thanks for a nice explanation.
It's actually as I have imagined,but
I rather then prefer it as a flat bet....
but under certain condition,2 or eventually
3 virtuals LL OR LLL,then start punting,untill
you are 6 un. in plus,then reset.
You will not have many bets throughout a night session
of 350-400 spins,on 2 LL=about 25 bets,but will come
out as a winner,just flat beting.
Anybody can tested it and find out.

So, Medo wait 2 or 3 virtual losses,
exactly wait 2 or 3  numbers from  lines (LLL)
13-18, and 31-36, than bet Flat Bet (steep 1 only)until in plus 6.
Or use this steeps of progression :

1.  on the 3 lines  3units
     on the squad  2 u
     on the  single street 1 u

next steep

2.     3 lines...... 6 u
        1 squad ...4 u
        1 single....2 u

next steep( 3 ) will be double all again
and stay on top , steep 3, until win.

The  2 or 3 L s can be from any others two lines,
then bet the  others 25 numbers remained, right ?

Balint

[medo]

Balint,
You can do as suits you,but after LL,punting continously
flat bet untill 6+...........and restart with LL.....
Thisway you will have about 25 bets throughout a session
of about 400 spins.
But if you would start punting after LLL or LLLL then you could
consider doubling up after each L;

2-3-1-3-3-
4-6-2-6-6-
6-9-3-6-6-.........etc.........2 up on a L--2 down on a W

The problem is that you wouldn't make much bets thisway.

The flat bet is I find the best after 2 LL,as this specific bet
covers all B/E & R/O + ZERO,and even losing 2 or 3 bets in the row,
soon recovers it in 6+.......................as sometimes/in fact very often/
it strikes continously for more then 12-18 spins.
I have tried/play not testing/all kind of 2 doz or col. bets,but this
bet is far more secure and profitable then any other of the kind.

[bikemotorman]

How about the idea of playing after two virtual LLs that may help save the bankroll lol.
I like this progression very nice and flexible too.

Stuart

[medo]

How about the idea of playing after two virtual LLs that may help save the bankroll lol.
I like this progression very nice and flexible too.

Stuart

That's what am I talking about--2 virtual LL---then bet.

[medo]

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