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Started by Gizcontron, October 06, 2010, 03:45:06 PM

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xman1970

Quote from: Gizmotron on October 07, 2010, 06:59:54 PM
hey xman1970, you wouldn't have a life if you didn't have such a need for attention attacking me.

"Attention attacking me" are you sure English is your 1st language ? & No, compared to you I have no life what so ever....   

You are so oblivious to what makes randomness display its many opportunities that you show everyone what a pathetic existence you embrace.

I kinda answered this above....... :-[ :-[

You can't do what I can so you are going to have a temper tantrum again. Big deal.

hehehehehehehehe LMFAO  :lol: :lol: ANYBODY who wants to see a temper tantrum pls read the thread below...



nolinks://vlsroulette.com/general-board/gizmo-cures-cancer/

& check out reply #28 from yourself.......

I thought you were going to ignore me ?

I will give you credit Gizmo, you ARE a man of your word  & of course a man of principle  :blush2: :blush2:

No doubt I will catch you on your book tour...... :good:

I have cookies

Here u have a pocket with a ball /.\ and it is 37 of them and with freedom wish u can not force towards u ideas ...
Capture constant change has a high hit ratio  - no more or less - and I am sure as I know there is much better ways then what you mention above - simpel to take a classical one we could pick Turbos dozen play wish you could look up at hes site with test sampels wish is much better then the garbage above - but Turbos method also is in the same categori as your method above - but just much better even if it fails, same shit ...

bombus

Quote from: Gizmotron on October 07, 2010, 06:13:36 PM
What bothers me about all you skeptics is that you lack the basic curiosity to consider adjustment to changing conditions.

I think we are all aware that the random outcomes in roulette tend to go through periods of loseness and stickiness. Whether they are wildly chaotic, or almost perfectly ordered, the prevalent condition will often remain for some time at least.

The problem is you will rarely be able to predict the precise moment of change (you could get lucky from time to time). You can sometimes slide into the change, and hope it persists, but with such an explosive progression as suggested in this thread you really are stepping through a minefield. Even if you had a map of the minefield you risk getting blown to smithereens just by being there.

If you attempt to capture favourable periods of permanence then it should be done flat betting. At least flat betting affords you the luxury of some measure of error when taking future steps.

When things are going exceptionally well, then you could risk higher stakes for brief periods, but that is something that almost crosses over to the ethereal, and therefore more suited to players with vast experience, and not the general roulette playing population.



gizmotron

Quote from: bombus on October 07, 2010, 07:52:46 PM
I think we are all aware that the random outcomes in roulette tend to go through periods of loseness and stickiness. Whether they are wildly chaotic, or almost perfectly ordered, the prevalent condition will often remain for some time at least.

The problem is you will rarely be able to predict the precise moment of change

That was my conclusion too. I hit huge stretches of trials where I lost only one time out of 300 spins. But then I also hit a swarm of trials where I lost twice in 300 spins. Losing twice kills this method.

bombus

Quote from: Gizmotron on October 07, 2010, 08:21:59 PM
That was my conclusion too. I hit huge stretches of trials where I lost only one time out of 300 spins. But then I also hit a swarm of trials where I lost twice in 300 spins. Losing twice kills this method.

Au contraire...

After two losses it is the recovery period that kills the system IMO. At this point we need up to 161 consecutive wins to regain our previous bankroll + 1.

IMO, a good guide for an up as you lose progression's recovery period would be about 12 consecutive winners for each loss. You could stretch it either way by a few wins depending on how brave you are.

I also think you should add the number of pockets you are betting and divide that into 111 (3 x 37). You should round the answer up to the next whole number and use at least that many steps in your progression.

So for 24 numbers the steps needed are 5.

To recover a loss in 12 wins here you would need a progression of huge proportions, and many late wins in the final few steps.

Something like...

1-1

6-6

36-36

216-216

1296-1296.

Only Mr j himself would have the balls for that one! LOL  

bombus


If you were to average out the wins, then this would be the best up as you lose progression for 24 pockets, IMO.

1-1

6-6

42-42

336-336

3024-3024     Even Mr j's legs are rattling now...  ;D


Can you find that table limit? At least with the table layout dozens you could add in the sixlines, streets, and pleins to extend the progression.

Then if you could slightly increase the accuracy of your predictions you would be in with a chance.  :)

Kingspin

The basis of the system is in my opinion not bad ,  but i would not play the progression which is too steep.
This i have cookies dude seems to type garbage all over the place , he posts about metal detectors and dogs! ;D

balint

Gizmo , you are betting the two missing dozens, when the dozen repeat you stop
and wait  new dozen than bet again  the two missing.
This could give  some good nolinksw streaks , and if you use Lw strategy
(w  trigger, stop at first L, wait new trigger  w) and Leveller progression
this could work even better...(leveller 1/1 ,2/2, 4/4 stay on 4/4 until bank in plus).

just my opinion....


Ex:

Doz.

1  bet  doz  2/3 ,   Virtual  play
1  L  wait
3  bet  1/2
2  w   Trigger  bet now  1/3
3  w  bet  1/2
3  L  stop wait  virtual w(  bet virtual 1/2)
3  wait
2  w  trigger  bet  1/3
1  w  bet  2/3
3  w  bet  1/2
1  w  bet  2/3
1  L  stop wait  virtual w( bet virtual 2/3)
1  L
1  L
3  w  trigger  bet  1/2
2  w  bet  1/3


...and so  on....

insidebet

There is no possible way this could work.  I cant believe we are still duscussing if 2+2 equals 4 or not...

Insider

Boo_Ray


Droganson

If I may interject here I have been having SOME success with this at certain casinos.   It may have been just a lucky streak but it is working well for me at the moment.   I prefer inside systems though but whatever works!

It WAS just a lucky streak.  I won't be playing this system anymore but thanks for posting!

hermes

Listen to Balint he has a point! That's the way to play it.
I am just wondering if nothing in this universe works why to keep this forum? Waste of time, isn't it? Or isn't it.
Even better, play the last and second last with LW strategy and Leveller and you catch all streaks and also some chops and make money on sleeping D/C (sometimes even 25 spins).
But even his strategy will work with different down to the earth progression. The progression is the culprit kamikaze.
Stop to fight get creative! You are wasting time and inspiration. Fight begets fight, creativity begets creativity. Creativity is divine, fight belongs to human stupids, eg. Iraq, Afghanistan.
Hermes

medo

Quote from: hermes on October 13, 2010, 07:26:49 PM
Listen to Balint he has a point! That's the way to play it.
I am just wondering if nothing in this universe works why to keep this forum? Waste of time, isn't it? Or isn't it.
Even better, play the last and second last with LW strategy and Leveller and you catch all streaks and also some chops and make money on sleeping D/C (sometimes even 25 spins).
But even his strategy will work with different down to the earth progression. The progression is the culprit kamikaze.
Stop to fight get creative! You are wasting time and inspiration. Fight begets fight, creativity begets creativity. Creativity is divine, fight belongs to human stupids, eg. Iraq, Afghanistan.
Hermes
True Bratko.

insidebet

Medo,
It is not a question of <<fighting>> as you put it.  It is a question of being realistic.  It is also a question of being original.

All of the <<wait for this to happen and bet this or that>> and <<progression this and progression that>> have ALL been done over and over and over again in ALL different shapes and forms.  None of that has been proven to be a winner over the long term.

One really has to think outside the box.
If something can win on th elong term, THERE HAS TO BE A REASON different from anything that is the norm in the so-called systems we see here.

As for why we are here?  I cant speak for others, but I keep visiting in the hope someone somewhere will come up with something that makes som sense.

Insidebet

Herb6

QuoteAll of the <<wait for this to happen and bet this or that>> and <<progression this and progression that>> have ALL been done over and over and over again in ALL different shapes and forms.  None of that has been proven to be a winner over the long term.

One really has to think outside the box.
If something can win on th elong term, THERE HAS TO BE A REASON different from anything that is the norm in the so-called systems we see here.

Insidebet


I agree.

Herb6

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