Just watch this gold rush...

[gizmotron]

One really has to think outside the box.
If something can win on the[sp] long term, THERE HAS TO BE A REASON different from anything that is the norm in the so-called systems we see here.

I could give out the method that works, but I won't at this time. But consider this: card counting depends on randomness. The card counting teams don't bring in their big gamblers until the conditions are correctly in their favor. So a random shuffling of the deck, the number of players at the table, and the tactics played by random players there too all play a factor in eventually arriving at conditions favorable to that big player. In a way, the teams are reading randomness in a way that relates to what they are seeking. If randomness flows in a fashion that develops into a mathematical advantage, a signal for them, then they hope that randomness will still work out for them when all the other factors signal that they should risk higher stakes too. It is a well known fact that there are no guarantees that you will win using card counting as a mathematical advantage.

[Mike]

WRONG! card counting does NOT depend on randomness, it depends on NON-randomness. Card counting only works because outcomes are dependent, so removing cards from the shoe can put the odds in your favor at times. No numbers on a roulette wheel are ever removed, so outcomes are not dependent, they are independent. And card counting DOES guarantee you will win in the long term, the problem is being able to get away with it for long enough.

[gizmotron]

WRONG! card counting does NOT depend on randomness, it depends on NON-randomness. Card counting only works because outcomes are dependent, so removing cards from the shoe can put the odds in your favor at times. No numbers on a roulette wheel are ever removed, so outcomes are not dependent, they are independent. And card counting DOES guarantee you will win in the long term, the problem is being able to get away with it for long enough.

Oh really? So the shuffling process is not the production of a lineal stream of unique data in the form of a randomly shuffled deck? Only a complete idiot would think that I thought that how randomness effects a deck of cards, as they are removed with each hand, and a Roulette wheel from spin to spin are an equivalency. So I'll say it again. Card counters don't bring in the big spender until the conditions are right. That condition occurs because of random distribution as the deck is dealt out. The only difference is the recognition process. Both are still watching for conditions to change. Both are dependent on past spins or past hands dealt from the deck. It's two different forms of reading randomness. So get that much at least. It's only you that are trying to call it one form or the same form.

[Herb6]

Oh really? So the shuffling process is not the production of a lineal stream of unique data in the form of a randomly shuffled deck? Only a complete idiot would think that I thought that how randomness effects a deck of cards, as they are removed with each hand, and a Roulette wheel from spin to spin are an equivalency.

A roulette wheel can't be compared to a deck of cards.  It's foolish to make the comparison that you have made.

In BJ, There are a finite number of cards in the deck.  After each card is drawn the probability of making your hand changes.  AP BJ players will sometimes shuffle track the cards as well.

In roulette,  probability doesn't change from one spin to the next based on which numbers have hit on the previous spins.  

For more information, read on "The Gambler's Fallacy".

-Herb

[gizmotron]

A roulette wheel can't be compared to a deck of cards.  It's foolish to make the comparison that you have made.

I'm sorry snowman but a comparison showing the differences can be shown in comparison, showing that they are completely different. It is not foolish to admit that a deck of cards are supposed to be randomly arranged before dealing them.

In BJ, There are a finite number of cards in the deck.  After each card is drawn the probability of making your hand changes.  AP BJ players will sometimes shuffle track the cards as well.

The opportunity to take advantage of a condition, for a condition to change or stay the same, changes from spin to spin. Only a fool thinks that that is the same as a deck of cards.

For more information, read on "The Gambler's Fallacy".

And for even more information take one of the last two spots in the only randomness training being conducted on planet earth. Last two spots reduced to $300 until the end of the month. 

[GogoCro]

Lets all find foulty or tilted ATM and all we can withdraw some money..

[Herb6]

Gizmo,

You shouldn't be charging to teach people what is essentially bunk.  You've basically admitted that you're now a scammer.

[gizmotron]

Gizmo,

You shouldn't be charging to teach people what is essentially bunk.  You've basically admitted that you're now a scammer.

We all know that you are just begging. I wonder what you will have to say when you are proved to have been wrong all these years. Perhaps they will call it a Herb when people thinking they have always been right are shown to have always been wrong. Will you be able to handle what you now accuse me of being? I think you will go jump off a cliff or something like it.

[cheese]

when people thinking they have always been right are shown to have always been wrong.

Geez, Gizmo even sounds like a scammer. Long on promises and short on delivery. He's going to show us all 'someday', except someday never comes. How typical. Gizmo is that guy in 'Music Man' who keeps promising the band instruments will arrive any time now, and they never do because he never ordered them. After awhile you just laugh at him and wish he'd shut up about it.

[xman1970]

And for even more information take one of the last two spots in the only randomness training being conducted on planet earth. Last two spots reduced to $300 until the end of the month. 

LMFAO 

& pls don't forget IF you do want one of those places, pls read this 1st......

nolinks://vlsroulette.com/general-board/gizmo-cures-cancer/

Your great leader openly admitting he will "Bring down Roulette" So for a mere $300 he will show you how to win @ a game that will soon not exist because of Gizmo's "self importance" gene once again kicking in......

$300 well spent ?

I think we all know the answer to that.......

[cheese]

So for a mere $300 he will show you how to win @ a game that will soon not exist because of Gizmo's "self importance" gene once again kicking in......

Why would you bother to pay to learn a game when the game won't be around much longer, according to the 'teacher'? By Gizmo's own admission last month, he's run by his ego, he wants world recognition for shutting down roulette and is willing to do anything to get it. That must include making an idiot out of yourself on public forums.

[xman1970]

Why would you bother to pay to learn a game when the game won't be around much longer, according to the 'teacher'? By Gizmo's own admission last month, he's run by his ego, he wants world recognition for shutting down roulette and is willing to do anything to get it. That must include making an idiot out of yourself on public forums.

Exactly  

As I've stated in previous posts, if you look in a dictionary you will find a picture of Gizmo next to the word "ironic"


Also I'm worried he may well pick up the odd head injury due to the world revolving around him....

[cheese]

As I've stated in previous posts, if you look in a dictionary

If anything is ironic, its that Gizmo actually believes anybody here really thinks he has students. Like everybody else, I've read his posts on roulette over the last year, and its mostly double speak nonsense. He talks and talks and says nothing. He's even bragged that its a skill he has, to be able to fool people into thinking he knows what he's talking about. His problem is, he stayed at the party too long and bored everybody to sleep. Now when you see his name, its all you can do to stifle the yawn you feel coming on.

[xman1970]

If anything is ironic, its that Gizmo actually believes anybody here really thinks he has students. Like everybody else, I've read his posts on roulette over the last year, and its mostly double speak nonsense. He talks and talks and says nothing. He's even bragged that its a skill he has, to be able to fool people into thinking he knows what he's talking about. His problem is, he stayed at the party too long and bored everybody to sleep. Now when you see his name, its all you can do to stifle the yawn you feel coming on.

Just about the most correct post to EVER hit this forum.......

[gizmotron]

It's good to see that all I have to do is pull your string and you all chime in like Chatty Cathy Dolls. You don't have to impress me.

[gizmotron]

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