The Carsch progression (red/black) system

[Coxx16]

Hi guys,

Most of you probably know "Carsch" from GamblersGlen. He made some awesome progression systems, and I though I would post my favorite. I take no credit of course. This could be applied to any even money bet in roulette. If we mixed it with Lanky's LW play; we might have a real winner here. Anyway, check it out:'

Progression: 1-1-2-3-4-6-9-14-21-32 (you may extent this progression
if so desired).


Progression Details

Bets
Units----Invested---Profit-------------------Profit after Repeat
1-------------1----------1
1-------------2----------0------Repeat bet if win---------1
2-------------4----------0------Repeat bet if win---------2
3-------------7--------(-1)-----Repeat bet if win---------2
4------------11--------(-3)----Repeat bet if win---------1
6------------17--------(-5)----Repeat bet if win---------1
9------------26--------(-8)----Repeat bet if win---------1
14-----------40-------(-12)---Repeat bet if win---------2
21-----------61-------(-19)---Repeat bet if win---------2
32-----------93-------(-29)---Repeat bet if win---------3

Although there is 10 steps in this progression, an infinte number of
hands could be played until we reach the last progression (32units) on
the chart.

After a loss and then a win, to qualify a win as a profit, you must w
in twice in a row. There is however no parlay with this one system.

Except for the first bet, while following the progression, after a wi
n and then a loss, you cannot move to the next step in the progression
until you lose twice in a row. Ex: Lose the first hand then win the s
econd hand. Next, you must repeat this same bet in order to qualify wi
th a profit. Let's say you lose the third hand. Next, you will have to
repeat this same bet until you either win twice in a row to finish wi
th the progression, or you lose twice in a row in orther to move on to
the next step in the progression ladder.

So, if you happen to alternatively lose and win a hand (Lose,Win,Lose
,Win,Lose,Win,Lose), you cannot lose or win anything until you lose or
you win twice consecutively.


Here is an example with some spins from a roulette wheel.

We will bet always on the same color that won last.

W=win
L=lose


00-----------------------does not qualify
32(Red)----------------next we bet 1 unit on Red
12(Red)---W(+1)----next we bet 1 unit on Red
25(Red)---W(+2)----next we bet 1 unit on Red
4(Black)--L(+1)----next we bet 1 unit on Black
23(Red)---L(0)-----next we bet 2 units on Red
35(Black)-L(-1)----next we bet 3 units on Black
31(Black)-W(+2)----next we Repeat the same bet
00(Zero)--L(-1)----next we Repeat the same bet*
34(Red)---L(-4)----next we bet 4 units on Red
12(Red)---W(0)-----next we Repeat the same bet
29(Black)-L(-4)----next we Repeat the same bet(on Black)
24(Black)-W(0)-----next we Repeat the same bet
2(Black)--W(+4)----next we bet 1 unit on Black
20(Black)-W(+5)----next we bet 1 unit on Black
4(Black)--W(+6)----next we bet 1 unit on Black
25(Red)---L(+5)----next we bet 1 unit on Red
15(Black)-L(+4)----next we bet 2 units on Black
6(Black)--W(+6)----next we Repeat the same bet
10(Black)-W(+8)----next we bet 1 unit on Black
24(Black)-W(+9)----next we bet 1 unit on Black
32(Red)---L(+8)----next we bet 1 unit on Red
8(Black)--L(+7)----next we bet 2 units on Black
25(Red)---L(+5)----next we bet 3 units on Red
34(Red)---W(+8)----next we Repeat the same bet
20(Black)-L(+5)----next we Repeat the same bet*(on Black)
18(Red)---L(+2)----next we bet 4 units on Red
28(Black)-L(-2)----next we bet 6 units on Black
20(Black)-W(+4)----next we Repeat the same bet
11(Black)-W(+10)---next we bet 1 unit on Black
16(Red)---L(+9)----next we bet 1 unit on Red
11(Black)-L(+8)----next we bet 2 units on Black
3(Red)----L(+6)----next we bet 3 units on Red
13(Black)-L(+3)----next we bet 4 units on Black
13(Black)-W(+7)----next we Repeat the same bet
3(Red)----L(+3)----next we Repeat the same bet* (on Red)
36(Red)---W(+7)----next we Repeat the same bet*
10(Black)-L(+3)----next we Repeat the same bet
26(Black)-W(+7)----next we Repeat the same bet
20(Black)-W(+11)---next we bet 1 unit on Black
8(Black)--W(+12)---next we bet 1 unit on Black
4(Black)--W(+13)---next we bet 1 unit on Black
30(Red)---L

We finished this session with a profit of +13 units.
The most we had to bet with our progression ladder was 6 units.

*This means you have to lose twice in a row to move to the next progr
ession. Also, you need to win twice in a row in order to end that prog
ression.

[Lanky]

Hi Coxx16.

Mate a long time ago a Mate & I thought we had the H/Grail betting for the Doubles + more of the Same color.
Follow the last Decision I think its called.
Unfortunately the RbRbRb etc will kill You in the end Mate.

I am just trying to help My Friend that's all.
I would hate for You to make the same mistakes that I have.

Lanky.

[TwoCatSam]

Lanky

Please do follow me and show me the error of my ways!

Sam

[Lanky]

Mat8 didn't you know that before you played?

Why do I feel like you are following me Mat8 

Hi John.
No Mate I did not know.
I did say it was a long time ago.
I was nearly a Virgin ( at Roulette ) Lmao.

Lanky.

[hermes]

And we still are lanky, we still are... It is good feeling to be a virgin, isn't it?

[Lanky]

And we still are lanky, we still are... It is good feeling to be a virgin, isn't it?

Lmao @ hermes.

Gees Mate You have a terrifice sense of Humour.
I always look for You posts so I can get a laugh.

Good On Ya Mate.

Lanky.

[Lanky]

<I was nearly a Virgin>  So what does that make you now 

I guess that makes Me an Older Virgin Cobber..lol

I can't believe it when I see people playing FTL on the colours using a martingale, it happens still.  And out comes the wallet, and out comes the ATM card, unbelievable.

Yes Mate that sure is a bad thing to see.
Like You I still see it as well.

I never said We were playing a Marty.

Thanks for the Repy John.

I apreciate You Humour Mate.

Your Friend

Lanky

[hermes]

In gambler jargon we become virgin every time we lose the whole bankroll.
Hallelujah
Hermes

[lucky_strike]

Well I read your post and I think this is fun, try to hit two in a row.

A thing do, why do you increse the bet size after two, when you can use a line like 1 1 1 1.

L 1 -1
L 1 -2
L 1 -3
w 1 -2
w 2 -0

So if you are going to build a progression, then maybe it could have a humbel start like 1 1 1 1 2 2 and at some point start to take a smaller loss as you progress futher and the end of the progression make it a 50/50 regain.

Its a tougt, regarding progressions that depends on winning two in a row.
But I know this. You dont need to win at every step using a progression to make a profit overall.

Cheers Lucky Strike

[Coxx16]

Hi Lucky,

I thin Carsch's other progression uses 1111. Ill try and find it on Gamblers Glen. GG, unfortuantely is not as fast and easy to navigate as VLS is lol.

[hermes]

Then you can go directly to D'Alembert special: loss + 1 unit , win -2 units. It helps when the game does not goes exactly our way.
Or Fibonacci 11235813213455 but go after win always to 1 unit (don't wait for 2 wins in row or in triple spin). It overcomes heavy downfalls and when the time improves you start to gain. Both strategies helped me 100 times.
Hermes.

[Talesman]

At that time the "Star" was heavily discussed and he wanted to make a slight improvement on it which Carsch did (less investment) and then he came out with 3 or 4 more progressions that all revolved around a common theme. What was posted is one of them.

One nice thing about waiting for 2 wins or losses before moving up or down is your table play rating.  A few $5 craps players found that out when playing the Star and had a $25 bet up for many multiple decisions.  They were rated as $25 bettors for the session.  Of course that was in the "old days" when the Floor dude used a pen along with paper rating slips and only came by once every 45 minutes or so. 

Old days? That was only a few years back.

[cps10]

I always like buying in at the blackjack table for $500 or so and have two $25 chips up on the table when the Pit Boss came around. Works like a charm. Then I scrape those off and go back to $5 chips.

The best way to exploit something like that though, is to go to a casino where there's a fun table, sit down, get to know him, have some laughs and later in the day, or trip, if you sit down with a wad, he will give you a lot of what you want. Or she...

[lucky_strike]

he will give you a lot of what you want

I dont get it! How are he or she going to give you a lot of you want?[smiley=3D-petit-anim-mod/36_9_1.gif]

Cheers Lucky Strike

[cps10]

Meaning even if you haven't played a whole heck of a lot that day, when you ask for a comp, he/she will be more willing to bury a comp for you. I've been in pits before where I sat down, pulled out $100, played red chips for 15 minutes or so, asked for a dinner comp, and a pit boss that I've yucked it up with has given it to me without question or looking up my rating.

[cps10]

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