Double Street Method Part II

[leroy]

The Double Street Method is working well for me.  It doesn't hit on every
4 Stage progression but it hits more than it loses.

I was playing last night and noticed that it hits more often in the first,
second, or third stages so I thought to exploit that by placing bets on the splits.

The Method is posted in another thread. . . here's the Steroid Version.

To clarify.  .  .  there are 6 DS's with this method; 1-6, 7-12, 13-18, 19-24, 25-30, 31-36

After spin one.  .  .
Bet 1 unit on the DS that contains spin one.
Bet a unit on the three splits in the chosen DS.

On a loss.  .  .

Bet 1 unit on the DS that contains spin one and two.
Bet a unit on the six splits in the two chosen DS's.

On a loss.  .  .

Bet 2 units on the DS that contains spin one, two and three.
Bet a double "split" unit on the nine splits in the three chosen DS's.

On a loss.  .  .

Bet 5 units on the DS that contains spin one, two, three and four.

On a loss.  .  .

Take your lumps and start over at Step 1.

On any win.  .  .

Start over from step 1.

This bet placement strategy relies on number sets repeating, which I
find happens more often than not. 

If this works for you and you make a lot of money I'm accepting donations. 
Just send it to my PayPal account at my forum email address.
Ask yourself; why did he post this method? why did I try it? why did I win?
why do I continue to win? why should I give to him that brought me fortune?

The WHY is karma.  Greed and selfishness will suck you dry and lay you to waste
while charity and thanksgiving will bring you prosperity and increase.

I'm working on an even more lucrative betting method which
incorporates the DS Method with Voisins Du Zero and Tier.

Watch for a new thread from Leroy.  Good Luck!

[leroy]

A lot of views but no comments?

Anyone like it? Have an improvement(s)?

If I didn't mention it yet I hate any method that relies on
a progression of bet increases to recover a loss.

With that in mind the DS Method goes to 4 Stages then
you simply eat your loss and attempt to recover on a new start.

I noticed while playing this morning that the Steroid Version of
placing bets on the DS Splits wasn't working past Stage 2.  The
bet amount at Stage 3 (doubling the Split bet) was too high.

When placing any bet you have to look at a factor of what
$ risk = what $ return.  Even though I'm now betting from my
winnings, risking a Stage 3 loss, when adding up Stage 1, 2
and 3 with DS Split bets, is too rich for my blood.

[fabianuy]

Hi leroy, i tried the system 3 times and i begun winning for around 4 spin but then i lost a lot, i got to bet 3 times of $5 each line and split numbers but i lost in RX, i think it can be good to win 3 or 4 in row and leave

I would like to read more comments

[leroy]

I've been reading posts about methods on tracking the last "however many"
spins, then betting on "whatever".  It's all make-believe if you ask me.  You
really can't predict an outcome on a random game.  Just because such-and-such
happens doesn't mean this-and-this will happen. 

In my humble opinion, a betting method has to be mechanical, not based on hot or
cold numbers, what's due to hit, or what happen in the last 30 spins, etc.  Accept that
whatever happened before has no impact on what happens next.

I've read that in 36 spins X amount will be red, X amount will be black, certain numbers
will appear and certain numbers will not.  Bet on the numbers that didn't appear or bet
on the numbers that appeared the most.  Who knows? NOBODY KNOWS.  The ball takes
a hop and you win or lose.

So, with that said, you have to go big or go home.  If you are playing roulette you
have to know you are gambling and EXPECT to win some and lose some.  You have to
set a specific bankroll and when it's gone you come back to gamble another day.

I've gotten real aggressive in my play and it's paying off nicely, the higher your bet the
more you win.

Double Streets pay 6-1

I'm using a progression of 1, 1, 2, 5, 20.

Since the 5th progression covers 5 of the 6 DS's, and I cover 0, then 31 of the 37
numbers are covered.  Everyone knows you can't cover every number and still make
a profit or recover your loses, hence what I said. . . gambling = win or lose.

[buffalowizard]

Hi Leroy,

Thanks for the method.

Do you stop when you've won a certain amount or lose a certain amount.

If you lose a 1,1,2,5,20 progression, do you try and win some of it back or take the loss?

Is it 109 units total for one of these progressions?

Cheers

BW

[leroy]

Hey BW,

I deposited $500 at 5dimes and split that into 5 $100 bankrolls.

I spent 2 months researching all the Forums and web sites and testing
Every system and technique I could find in free mode at Dublinbet.

I may be wrong, but I determined placing a bet on a guess calculating
the previous X amount of spins and betting on hot or cold numbers is
flawed due to the randomness of the game.

Last month we were in New Orleans visiting my Bro and we decided to
go gambling up in Shreveport again. When I first get to the table and there
are people around I like to just watch for a while. Soak it all in, find out if the
gamblers are too serious, friendly, will they make eye contact with me, talk
to me. I treat the tourist and regulars differently...do I assume the role of the
student or the teacher, either way I'm always looking to learn.

Anyway, this last time there was an old guy sitting there and he placed $5 on
the middle dozen and $5 on the third. The next bet was $5 on the middle and
$5 on the first. Every spin, $5 on the middle and alternating the first and third.
After about a minute and a half I said "amazing technique" and we started talking.
He had three stacks of chips, the one on the left had about 10 $5 chips and the
other two stacks, on the right, had about 4 times that. I learned the one on the
left was what he came with. I also learned sometimes he leaves busted but most
of the time he leaves a winner and that he either leaves busted or plays 1 hour
and 17 minutes. I gave him quizzical look and he just shrugged and said, "It's just
what I do." He then scooped up his chips, said, "Good luck" and walked off. I sat
down, played his technique and got lucky, it paid for our trip to the Big Easy.

Update on the DS Method

Bet $1 on 1 DS ($1)
Bet $.50 on 0

Loss - down $1.50 total

Bet $1 on 2 DS's ($2)
Bet $.50 on 0

Loss - down $4 total

Bet $2 on 3 DS's ($6)
Bet $.50 on 0

Loss - Down $10.50 total

Bet $5 on 4 DS's ($20)
Bet $1 on 0

Loss- Down ($31.50) total

Bet $20 on 5 DS's ($100)
Bet $4 on 0

Loss - Down $135.50

Most would say this Method is foolish and I tend to agree because
you have $135 invested by Step 5 and the bet only recovers your
lose + $5(+/-) AND there are 6 numbers uncovered.

This morning I was betting $2 units and up $185 when it went to Step 5.
I won, but wouldn't you know the very next play went to 5 again and I lost.
I lost all my winnings and about $10 of my previous winnings. NO MORE OF THAT.

I think tomorrow I'm going to play a little different...

$3 units on just 3 Steps. A win on Step 1 and 2 pays $16. Step 3 would pay $36.
I can't count the times I was playing and numbers where coming out like 7, 8, 10, 7, 0, 0,
then it would bounce to a series of numbers like 33, 0, 33, 36, 31, 30.

1,1,2 progression would be ($3) ($3, $3) ($6, $6, $6)
Covering the 0 at $.50, $.50, $.50
Gives a total loss of $ 28.50 so I'll set my bank roll at 4X total loss.

[buffalowizard]

Nice post Leroy,

I think you're right about the 5 DS method.

It's just too risky and you may fall in to a string of losses of which any recovery would be minimal.

Let us know how you get on with yr updated version

BW

[insidebet]

What happened to thread by Macedonian???

That is the second time in a few days that a thread just disappear for no apparent reason...

Insidebet

[leroy]

Ken should also delete the new thread he started, just one quote says it all.

"So my present for you is to tell you how to bet on that wheel without observing parameters...
Always bet 120 degree angle from the last number spun anticlockwise..."

What are the parameters and where exactly is 120 degrees COUNTERCLOCKWISE?

He mentioned VB which I know to be Microsoft Excel Visual Basic, which is programming
software that can be adapted to simulate roulette, I guess to predict an outcome and determine
a bet based on previous wins/losses/outcomes. Really?

In 300 (+-) years of the existence of the current version of the roulette we play, no one has really
beat it. You win some and you lose some. If someone tells you otherwise they are trying to sell you something.

Moving on...

I would like to share with all of you a very easy way to fund your play. Can I say 5dimes Mod?

The Sportbook/live dealer casino I use has over 1000 betting options. Horse races, NFL, baseball, etc..
and Lottery.

Along with bets on the Cowboys, the Superbowl, the World Series and other games, I play the Pick 3.
It's twice a day, 5 times a week. If I hit 3 of 10 I profit, and I average 5 of 10.

I started out playing $.25 cent picks which pay $37.50 on a boxed bet.

Every State has an official lottery web site with past number data to test my system and even
though you live in Japan you can still bet in the Florida Pick 3 Lottrey.

It's very easy. I make a list of 0-9 and look at the previous 10 days and add up the numbers like this...

0 11
1
2 111
3 1111
4 11111
5 111111
6
7 11
8 111
9 11111

I pick the 7 numbers that have the Most hits. 2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 9
(0 and 7 are even so I ask my dog to bark once for 0 and twice for 7,
she won't do it unless I have a bacon treat in my hand)

I then take these 7 numbers and wheel them, which gives me 35 numbers.
If you don't know what wheeling means, it's that I will have 35 combinations
of 3 numbers containing all 7 numbers. If the draw contains any of my seven
numbers I win. If the draw contains Any number not in the seven, a combo
like 155, or a triple like 999, I lose.

There's several web sites that have free online wheeling tools, just do a search
with the keywords and you'll find one. I pick my numbers, wheel them, and copy
and paste it over to the sportbook, it takes about 5 minutes. My 35 numbers cost
$8.75 at the $.25 level and pays $37.50.

I've been very fortunate and I don't worry about anything. If I win it feels great, if
I lose it feels great too because I had a little excitement. Please, never bet more than
you would give to your Church, or to put it another way...the money you gamble with
is the money you would otherwise light your cigar with.

Hope this helps!

Good Luck.

[balint]

Quote:

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He mentioned VB which I know to be Microsoft Excel Visual Basic, which is programming
software that can be adapted to simulate roulette, I guess to predict an outcome and determine
a bet based on previous wins/losses/outcomes. Really?

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You wrong about that guy(macedonian) he find the *right wheel* .
Read this and you will know what is VB(visual ballistics):


Info:

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What's visual ballistics?
Before we launch into an analysis of whether visual ballistics can be used playing live roulette, it's probably worth going over what it actually is.  Like wheel bias analysis and to a some extent dealer signature observations, it's another of the advantage play methods that look at roulette as game of physics rather than mathematics.  Here, rather than wheel physical imperfections or dealer spin rhythms, what players are trying to do is bet based on the trajectory of the ball after it has been launched.

You know how final bets in roulette aren't called until the ball is well into its spin?  Well, using visual ballistics, or VB as the experts call it, advantage players reckon they can take into account the velocities of the ball and wheel, and use techniques to mentally compute a likely outcome.

Like the other above mentioned techniques, this one is not without it's detractors.  But thinking about this scientifically, just like the other techniques, with precision observation and calculation in theory it is certainly possible.  Whether anyone is capable of this in practice is another story.  And I have to say, that while it is a known fact that casinos have and still do go to great lengths to bar blackjack advantage players, I haven't heard of casinos being at all worried about roulette players – visual ballistics experts included!

Using visual ballistics playing live
If we work on the assumption that there are players out there that can employ visual ballistics methods successfully at terrestrial casinos their ability to apply these same methods playing live online would be severely tested.  I say this for 2 reasons.

First: While live casinos seek to offer as clear a video stream as possible, the clarity of the video will always depend on the players connection speed and viewing medium.  Streams designed to cater for a broad spectrum will not necessarily be so sharp across all mediums.  Streams optimized for a specific spectrum (eg the 'for TV casinos) will suffer noticeably viewed over the internet.  Implications of slow internet connections on video quality go without saying.

The point of the above is that when you play live roulette, freeze framing and less than sharp vision can be either a very minor/infrequent issue  or a real annoyance and hindrance to clear and smooth viewing, depending on these factors.  While visual ballistics requires quite precise observation and calculation, the opportunity for such is certainly not as good playing online as terrestrially.

Second: The above issue is exacerbated by the fact that the web cam on a typical live roulette begins at a long zoom and then transitions to close zoom during the spin.  A great idea for getting a nice close up view of where the ball comes to rest, but not so great for assessing the spin from a visual ballistics point of view.

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cheers

[MightyMark]

Ken should also delete the new thread he started, just one quote says it all.

"So my present for you is to tell you how to bet on that wheel without observing parameters...
Always bet 120 degree angle from the last number spun anticlockwise..."

What are the parameters and where exactly is 120 degrees COUNTERCLOCKWISE?

He mentioned VB which I know to be Microsoft Excel Visual Basic, which is programming
software that can be adapted to simulate roulette, I guess to predict an outcome and determine
a bet based on previous wins/losses/outcomes. Really?

   

[leroy]

Cheers balint,

Thank you for posting. I don't mean to imply I know everything or have all
the right answers. I'm only here to learn, put forth dialog, help if I can and
receive help through better understanding. I will always reserve the right
to change my mind or acknowledge error.

VB is visual ballistics. OK, ballistics being the science or art of designing
and accelerating projectiles so as to achieve a desired performance. I'd say
the term really doesn't accurately fit what is we are trying to define in
regards to bias in roulette.

Your post is a direct copy and paste from a web site.

nolinks://nolinks.livedealer.org/blog/2010/02/visual-ballistics-and-live-roulette/

Here's another quote from the same site.

"Now where a method can be devised to bring about a players edge on individual
spins this is a different story.  Wheel bias analysis systems devised around
a specific wheel's tendency to drop balls in certain regions have enabled
advantage players to win big - the most famous case of this was Billy Walter's
$3.8 million win at the Golden Nugget in Atlantic City in 1986 on a wheel his
team found to have a slight drop bias. Needless to say the Golden Nugget, and
casinos all around the world, were quick to invest in new low profile, precision
technology wheels from specialists like John Huxley.

Assuming a well engineered, unbiased wheel (as almost all now are) it must always
be remembered that each spin of the roulette wheel is an independent event and the
odds of winning or losing on that spin are in no way influenced by prior outcomes. 
Nevertheless, it is fun to consider how these systems work and the thinking
(albeit flawed) underlying them." end quote

To prevent exploits of "VB", the casinos monitor the performance of their wheels,
and re-balance and realign them regularly to try to keep the result of the spins
as uniform as possible. (random)

As to the study of Dealer Signature I feel it's very unreliable. It's believed that
the finger tips contain more nerve endings, per mm, than anywhere else on
the body. The finger itself can exert Enormously different amounts of PSI
between their min/max limits.

You have to know, at times, there could be hundreds, perhaps thousands, of
gamblers on a casino web site. Casinos are in business for one reason, PROFIT.
The next conclusion then is to assume they monitor their wheels very closely.
Also, with the stakes involved you better believe they know exactly what the bet
values are on each spin and where on the wheel they are placed.

I'm very good at what I do. I've been doing it a long time and I take a lot of
pride to be the very best and my company pays me very well because of it.
I'm sure there are many croupiers who feel the same way and can put the ball
in a certain sector at will. If the croupier is watching the wheel intently at release
then bet after release or switch tables. Because if the Boss tells him to avoid 0,
or avoid Tier, or place the ball at a certain sector, he better do it or he'll be looking
for another job.

I will concede that an outcome is related to physics as opposed to mathematics in
the fact that the outcome is dependent on 5 physical parameters; the wheel condition,
speed of the wheel at release, speed of the ball at release, point on the wheel of release,
and the hop.

In looking at these 5 factors; the wheel has already been addressed; one has no idea
what the wheel speed fluctuation upon release is from spin to spin; one has no idea of
the ball speed fluctuation upon release is from spin to spin; you can determine the point
of release (sometimes); and the hop is never predictable.

When you then factor the endless variables of the combination of all the physical dynamics
involved you can only come to one conclusion, which is I can 100% guarantee, based on the
previous spin, that the ball will land within a sector 360 degrees anticlockwise.
Had to give macedonian another jab, when is someone going to tell him it's counterclockwise?

If you then accept the hypothesis that VB and dealer signature is useless then there
only leaves one choice and that's a mechanical method of betting.

Discussing the multitude of variables involved in forming a betting method would take too
long for now but let me give you an example using blackjack.

Blackjack is exactly the same as roulette in the fact that the cards you get are determined
by physics. 1) how many decks are in the shoe 2) the order they end up in after the shuffle
3) where you are sitting ,etc. But the bet is mechanical. I look at my hand and I react based
on what the dealers up card is. His up card and my hand determines if I double down, split,
hit or stand.

Good luck,
Lee

[leroy]

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