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Title: Dealer Bust system
Post by: Coxx16 on September 06, 2008, 01:47:53 AM
  This is just a system idea. I have not tested this. The system is simple. Wait for a dealer to have not busted for 10 hands straight. Then when you get your hand, simply stand. Since mathmatically, the dealer is supposed to bust 24 out of 100 hands. That is about every 4th hand. (i think those numbers are correct anyway) This may work with a mild progression.


I got this idea from rouletteforum.com


Any other ideas guys?
Title: Re: Dealer Bust system
Post by: AnandMajumdar on September 06, 2008, 06:46:10 AM
Quotethe dealer is supposed to bust 24 out of 100 hands

how many pack of cards are u playing with.. since blackjack is a game of dependant random trials as opposed to roulette which is independant random trials, it is important to know how many packs you are playing with because the more number of card, the larger can be the standard deviation in terms of higher or lower card clumping together..dealer may thus not bust for 20 games :)

plus when the dealer was NOT busting for 10 games, what were u doing ? playing ? busting ? watching ? how much money did u lose there ? :)

your views ?

anand
Title: Re: Dealer Bust system
Post by: Talesman on September 08, 2008, 03:04:09 AM
The "math" says that when I play through $100 at a 00 wheel I should end up $5.27 poorer. 

Ever see that happen to anyone in your life?

Everyone seems to have memorized the numbers and they throw them out all the time but most have no idea where they came from or how they were derived.  Suffice to say, that ALL those numbers and statistics were garnered after running tens of thousands of hands, spins, rolls, etc.  Maybe over millions of them.  Then came the averages. In the Perfect World Casino where all the math was dead-on, we, as players, could clean up now that we know when an event is supposed to happen.  That wouldn't work because all the casinos would be bankrupt.

Last, but not least. Let's say you hold an Ace-three. If you don't take a hit (because you should) maybe you will MAKE the dealer's hand for her instead of BUSTING like she should.

Title: Re: Dealer Bust system
Post by: iceberg1912 on September 08, 2008, 07:55:22 AM
Yes, this is a good strategy.
There was a topic in rouletteforum.net about that.
The problem is to play that way on online live dealers casino, since you've to wait and then stay every hands when dealers busts three time in a row.
For ex: DB has a strange bj (early payout), others log you out as you don't play  for few hands.
Hope you understand me....
Ice
Title: Re: Dealer Bust system
Post by: jjFX on September 08, 2008, 03:44:32 PM
Hi,
You will be in profit with this system.

What you need to do?!

1. You have to play HEAD to HEAD ( only the dealer and you )
2. Find a table with 5-300 limits.
3. Wait for 3-4 consecutive win for the DEALER and after that start betting.
4. Never HIT only stand.

Good Luck!
Title: Re: Dealer Bust system
Post by: iceberg1912 on September 08, 2008, 04:18:46 PM
Hi jj,
where to play as we said online?
Ice
Title: Re: Dealer Bust system
Post by: jjFX on September 08, 2008, 04:37:03 PM
Quote from: iceberg1912 on September 08, 2008, 04:18:46 PM
Hi jj,
where to play as we said online?
Ice


You can't play online. I didn't find a live table with this options.
I play that system in a land based casino with my friend and I have to say that it works.
Title: Re: Dealer Bust system
Post by: iceberg1912 on September 08, 2008, 05:46:12 PM
Yes! I know it works but I haven't a casino near to my town...geez....
Anyone know one playable online bj?
Thanx
Ice
Title: Re: Dealer Bust system
Post by: AnandMajumdar on September 08, 2008, 06:44:50 PM
dear vls/sam/lanky/matty/wild,

this is where i think some of u need to come in.. i can comment a bit on the game but not much about online casinos (you know "why" by now im sure!!) with live dealers.. members are asking as to where they can play with live dealer.. pls help this section..


your friend
anand
Title: Re: Dealer Bust system
Post by: Lanky on September 09, 2008, 07:23:44 AM
Andy.

My Mate as much as I would like to help You....I Can't...

I have never played Online Mate....So I can't recommend anything Cobber.

Sorry My Friend.

Lanky

Title: Re: Dealer Bust system
Post by: VICLIMKS on September 09, 2008, 07:55:11 AM
Quote from: jjFX on September 08, 2008, 03:44:32 PM
Hi,
You will be in profit with this system.

What you need to do?!

1. You have to play HEAD to HEAD ( only the dealer and you )
2. Find a table with 5-300 limits.
3. Wait for 3-4 consecutive win for the DEALER and after that start betting.
4. Never HIT only stand.

Good Luck!
even if the value of cards is below 11 also dun hit...........wats this
Title: Re: Dealer Bust system
Post by: MattyMattz on September 09, 2008, 10:06:52 AM
Quote from: AnandMajumdar on September 08, 2008, 06:44:50 PM
dear vls/sam/lanky/matty/wild,

this is where I think some of u need to come in.. I can comment a bit on the game but not much about online casinos (you know "why" by now im sure!!) with live dealers.. members are asking as to where they can play with live dealer.. pls help this section..


your friend
anand

Hey Anand,

can't say I've found a live dealer online other than DB, which, as mentioned, doesn't give you the option to fold. 

lots of RNG out there, but none that I know of are live (lots "coming soon" though).

Matt
Title: Re: Dealer Bust system
Post by: jjFX on September 09, 2008, 11:07:38 AM
Quote from: VICLIMKS on September 09, 2008, 07:55:11 AM

even if the value of cards is below 11 also dun hit...........wats this

Yes! I don't hit  :) Usually when I do that the dealer is looking at me like I'm dumb :)
Title: Re: Dealer Bust system
Post by: iceberg1912 on September 09, 2008, 11:35:12 AM
i agree with jj,
don't play at all if you can.
Watch the game, with for three (or better four) dealer's win in a row and then start playing with light progression.
Ice
Title: Re: Dealer Bust system
Post by: MattyMattz on September 10, 2008, 03:54:18 PM
Quote from: jjFX on September 09, 2008, 11:07:38 AM
Quote from: VICLIMKS on September 09, 2008, 07:55:11 AM

even if the value of cards is below 11 also dun hit...........wats this

Yes! I don't hit  :) Usually when I do that the dealer is looking at me like I'm dumb :)

You'd be silly/stupid not to hit when your hand is 11 or lower.  You could get 21!  Say you have 4,4 (so 8).  If you hit and get a 3, you have a decent chance of getting a face card next pull for 21.

I've played the method before (good and bad results) but I would always hit until atleast 12... why not - it's a free hit! 

PS - Last time in vegas I saw a dealer win 27 hands in a row... she had 7 blackjacks in a row during that stretch and 13 in total... one guy was unfortunate enough to play through the entire series... poor fella.

Matt
Title: Re: Dealer Bust system
Post by: jjFX on September 11, 2008, 04:42:15 AM
Quote from: mattymattz on September 10, 2008, 03:54:18 PM


You'd be silly/stupid not to hit when your hand is 11 or lower.  You could get 21!  Say you have 4,4 (so 8).  If you hit and get a 3, you have a decent chance of getting a face card next pull for 21.

I've played the method before (good and bad results) but I would always hit until atleast 12... why not - it's a free hit! 

PS - Last time in vegas I saw a dealer win 27 hands in a row... she had 7 blackjacks in a row during that stretch and 13 in total... one guy was unfortunate enough to play through the entire series... poor fella.

Matt

Hi,
Well I'm playing that way only because of the statistical part. If you play with 2,3 or more people on the table
then you are right you have to hit, but believe me if you play head to head the things are different ;)

Bye
Title: Re: Dealer Bust system
Post by: Roulette787 on September 12, 2008, 04:40:01 AM
You can't play this method online, because they all (live balckjack) play basic strategy.
You don't have an option when it comes to hit or stand.



Waiting the dealer to win 10 hands is kind of card counting.
Because over the long run, those 10 dealer won hands will contain low cards than high cards.

So, when you start at 11th hand, there will (probably) be more high cards in the deck, rather than low cards. So if you hit above 11, chances are you'll most probably bust.
Title: Re: Dealer Bust system
Post by: Jakkalsdraai on February 25, 2009, 02:58:25 PM
 :) sorry if what I say is already well known. This is not my game of choice yet i have played it a bit.

In landbased casinos if you sit at a table with say 4 players and your 2 cards are 10 and 2 and the dealers card is 7, you can actually stay if any of the other players have a combined score of higher than 17. simply because the dealer has to play again in order to beat the guy with the 18 score. So your weak hand can be ok and the chances are the banker will go bust.

Cheers
jakk