Where are Gizmotrons students ?

[schoenpoetser]

This discussion lead to nothing.The problem is all members hide themself behind a nickname .Behind a nickname you can be impolite,tell lies etc. I am very careful on internet and I try to have much respect for all my opponents.

[cheese]

The problem is all members hide themself behind a nickname .

'Hide'? You mean a person's real name would mean more to strangers than their nickname? I don't think so..

[zippyplayer]

This discussion lead to nothing.

Well wouldnt it be interesting if just one of Gizmotrons students were to write of their experience with him.Good or Bad.

(if they exist)

[cheese]

This discussion lead to nothing.

Well wouldnt it be interesting if just one of Gizmotrons students were to write of their experience with him.Good or Bad.

(if they exist)

Oh, they exist, they've written to me.

[curious]

This discussion lead to nothing.

Well wouldnt it be interesting if just one of Gizmotrons students were to write of their experience with him.Good or Bad.

(if they exist)

If Gizmotron really is teaching people, then perhaps he can take on a few of us as students, we can evaluate the training program, and then post our findings for everyone to see.

Gizmotron, does that make sense?

[gizmotron]

If Gizmotron really is teaching people, then perhaps he can take on a few of us as students, we can evaluate the training program, and then post our findings for everyone to see.

Gizmotron, does that make sense?

Certainly. While you are at it why don't you publish the secret recipe for Kentucky Fried Chicken & for Coke too.

Actually I have spoken about everything I teach already. I was just slightly careful how and when I divulged things. If it was cryptic enough to confuse Spike/cheese then I did it correctly. I hope that made sense?

[curious]

Certainly. While you are at it why don't you publish the secret recipe for Kentucky Fried Chicken & for Coke too.

Actually I have spoken about everything I teach already. I was just slightly careful how and when I divulged things. If it was cryptic enough to confuse Spike/cheese then I did it correctly. I hope that made sense?

No it does not.  You are saying "I publicized it, but I purposely made it cryptic so as to confuse people".   That makes no sense whatsoever.

You claim to have a winning method.  You claim to have students.  What you post in public is not understandable by the vast majority of people here.

If you have something worthwhile and you train people, then take a few people on as students and let them publish the results of using the training in live play.  If you have information that you don't want disclosed then get them to sign something agreeing not to publicize that part of it.

[gizmotron]

No it does not.  You are saying "I publicized it, but I purposely made it cryptic so as to confuse people".   That makes no sense whatsoever.

You claim to have a winning method.  You claim to have students.  What you post in public is not understandable by the vast majority of people here.

If you have something worthwhile and you train people, then take a few people on as students and let them publish the results of using the training in live play.  If you have information that you don't want disclosed then get them to sign something agreeing not to publicize that part of it.

No. Don't feed the beggar. It just encourages this conduct.

I already had ten students. They were those lucky few. You are not. But some of them might not have a clew what to do. It takes hard work, practice, and the desire to keep going. Some have gone to cheese for a shoulder to cry on. Perhaps you should try him. He claims he taught me everything I know anyway. So go to the source. He'll welcome that. Trust me.

[curious]

No. Don't feed the beggar. It just encourages this conduct.

What conduct?  I am asking you to prove what you say.  You have a problem with that?

I already had ten students. They were those lucky few. You are not.

None of them have published any results from using the training.  So, that doesn't help us.

I don't want the training.  So, how am I unlucky?

But some of them might not have a clew what to do.

Not sure what a clew is.  So, you are saying that some of the people that you trained, who we have no idea who they are, might have a clew what to do?  But, they might not?

It takes hard work, practice, and the desire to keep going. Some have gone to cheese for a shoulder to cry on. Perhaps you should try him. He claims he taught me everything I know anyway. So go to the source. He'll welcome that. Trust me.

I am not talking to cheese, I am talking to you.  Stop talking to me like I am a child or have a mental handicap and answer my question directly.

I will repeat it.  You claim to have a system that can beat roulette.  You claim to train people.  Several posters on here who most everyone trusts would be willing to take your training and publish the results of using it in live play.  This would prove whether you actually have legitimate training or not.

So, are you going to do this or keep talking nonsense?

[gizmotron]

What conduct?  I am asking you to prove what you say.  You have a problem with that?

Just look at your avatar, lighten up a little.

[gizmotron]

I am not talking to cheese, I am talking to you.  Stop talking to me like I am a child or have a mental handicap and answer my question directly.

I will repeat it.  You claim to have a system that can beat roulette.  You claim to train people.  Several posters on here who most everyone trusts would be willing to take your training and publish the results of using it in live play.  This would prove whether you actually have legitimate training or not.

So, are you going to do this or keep talking nonsense?

What a demanding beggar. You were a lawyer before the wheels fell off, right?

So if I keep talking about Roulette without giving you the Holy Grail then you aren't going to like me? That works for pathetic liberals that use peer pressure to demand and enforce group integrity. You know how to tick off a liberal, you tell them the truth. You tick off a conservative by lying about them.

Nope, this is not going to be a mandated redistribution of secrets. This is not the new State Sponsored Capitalism for the Wayward Roulette Players Union. Where is it written that I owe you a winning method?

Figure it out yourself, I did. Only you can do the work.

[curious]

So if I keep talking about Roulette without giving you the Holy Grail then you aren't going to like me?

Liking you or not liking you is completely irrelevant. You have made claims, I have asked you to prove those claims in a way that cannot be refuted.  You refuse to do so and act like a child with your insults and nonsense talk instead.  So, take on some students, have them sign a non disclosure agreement of anything that you don't want disclosed, and let them use your method in live play and report the results.  If you are what you claim to be then everyone will know and you will have esteem in everyone's eyes. 

Nope, this is not going to be a mandated redistribution of secrets. This is not the new State Sponsored Capitalism for the Wayward Roulette Players Union. Where is it written that I owe you a winning method?
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I already told you that I don't want to be one of the students.  Read my previous quotes to see what I was talking about.

Figure it out yourself, I did. Only you can do the work.

So, then you are not going to do anything to demonstrate that you actually have a winning method.

In other words you are just a blowhard.

[gizmotron]

You have made claims, I have asked you to prove those claims in a way that cannot be refuted.  You refuse to do so ...

So what?

I've said no. All you want is free instructions. I'm done teaching. I shared with people that didn't bother to publish it on the internet. Go away, and yes I'm a blowhard. You always, at least, have that.

[curious]

So what?

I've said no. All you want is free instructions. I'm done teaching. I shared with people that didn't bother to publish it on the internet. Go away, and yes I'm a blowhard. You always, at least, have that.

Apparently, you cannot read with comprehension.  I said that I don't want to take the training at least twice.

So, let me make sure that your position is clear:
1.  You have a system that can be proven both in theory and in live play that it beats Roulette.
2.  You will not publish the system because it is too valuable.
3.  You trained students but no one knows who they are or what results they had.
4.  You refuse to explain what you have or prove it in any way.
5.  We have to take your word for all of this.

Is this correct?

[gizmotron]

1.  You have a system that can be proven both in theory and in live play that it beats Roulette.
2.  You will not publish the system because it is too valuable.
3.  You trained students but no one knows who they are or what results they had.
4.  You refuse to explain what you have or prove it in any way.
5.  We have to take your word for all of this.

1.) Maybe not / Yes
2.) No, it would end being able to use it. In that value the answer is yes.
3.) I know. Cheese says he knows of at least three or four of them. Trust me, they are lurking.
4.) Yes, that seems to be a good idea for today.
5.) No, I'm a blowhard. You still have what you already had.

[gizmotron]

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