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Title: Baccarat strategy
Post by: witho on August 25, 2008, 12:35:33 AM
I saw this strategy advertised for free, however they didnt give the money management plan, they wanted to sell it, or suggested to use your own.

It was pretty basic:

If a B comes, bet B
If a P comes bet P
If you lose three times with this, bet alternate, as soon as you lose with this go back to above.

I tried it with a parlay and it seemed to work alright, but need more testing
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: Joker on August 25, 2008, 02:26:39 AM
only way to win with baccarat is play very small and go for big win...

hit 7-10 streak with double up....

that's the only way you can win

Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: JLP on October 05, 2008, 11:38:32 PM
Hi All,

I have compiled a set of articles about baccarat and made a little ebook with it.
Here is the link uploaded to a host service :

nolinks://momupload.com/files/107838/BACCARAT.doc.html (nolinks://momupload.com/files/107838/BACCARAT.doc.html)

Cheers,
JLP.-
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: Natural9 on October 07, 2008, 11:50:55 AM
Quote from: JLP on October 05, 2008, 11:38:32 PM
Hi All,

I have compiled a set of articles about baccarat and made a little ebook with it.
Here is the link uploaded to a host service :

nolinks://momupload.com/files/107838/BACCARAT.doc.html (nolinks://momupload.com/files/107838/BACCARAT.doc.html)

Cheers,
JLP.-



JLP bI must be doing something wrong when I hit the link you posted it takes me to some bingo game not sure what I am doing wrong
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: JLP on October 07, 2008, 12:31:03 PM
Quote from: Natural9 on October 07, 2008, 11:50:55 AM
Quote from: JLP on October 05, 2008, 11:38:32 PM
Hi All,

I have compiled a set of articles about baccarat and made a little ebook with it.
Here is the link uploaded to a host service :

nolinks://momupload.com/files/107838/BACCARAT.doc.html (nolinks://momupload.com/files/107838/BACCARAT.doc.html)

Cheers,
JLP.-



JLP bI must be doing something wrong when I hit the link you posted it takes me to some bingo game not sure what I am doing wrong

Hi mate,
I tested the link and it works.
But try this one anyway :

nolinks://nolinks.badongo.com/file/11640953 (nolinks://nolinks.badongo.com/file/11640953)

Cheers,
JLP.-
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: See_Jerek on November 20, 2008, 12:39:07 PM
Quote from: beocino on November 20, 2008, 11:31:43 AM
Well evidently all of your money worries are over now that ibs4 has been shared with the world. Free copies are being distributed all over the internet so dont miss out.


What is IBS4?Where can we take a look at this system?
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: lucky_strike on November 20, 2008, 05:57:56 PM
QuoteIf a B comes, bet B
If a P comes bet P
If you lose three times with this, bet alternate, as soon as you lose with this go back to above.

llwllllwlnolinksllwllwllllwwlnolinkswwlwwlllwwlllwllwllwlllllllwlwlllwlll

40 loss
24 win

This is how it looks when you run it for one shoe.

LS
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: Worm on November 20, 2008, 06:17:42 PM
Quote from: lucky strike on November 20, 2008, 05:57:56 PM
QuoteIf a B comes, bet B
If a P comes bet P
If you lose three times with this, bet alternate, as soon as you lose with this go back to above.

llwllllwlnolinksllwllwllllwwlnolinkswwlwwlllwwlllwllwllwlllllllwlwlllwlll

40 loss
24 win

This is how it looks when you run it for one shoe.

LS

Hi LS
If you dont bet alternate...just w8 until it hits again and then bet again..what do you end up with then?
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: See_Jerek on November 21, 2008, 02:10:03 AM
Quote from: beocino on November 20, 2008, 11:31:43 AM
Well evidently all of your money worries are over now that ibs4 has been shared with the world. Free copies are being distributed all over the internet so dont miss out.

Hello mate,

I got your email,thanks I will take a look when I have some time
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: Worm on November 21, 2008, 06:10:19 AM
Would love to take a look at that one aswell beocino..

Take care
/Worm
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: See_Jerek on November 22, 2008, 04:00:09 PM
Quote from: beocino on November 21, 2008, 10:41:13 PM
Ive sent it to at least 5 people now so they should stop being stingy and pass it around.


Hello mate,

I have send it out to 2 other members alreay,anyone who wants it pleade PM me.
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: See_Jerek on November 23, 2008, 05:06:26 AM
Hello all,


Thoes that have PM me should receive the system already except for bruce please PM me your email as well
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: Carlitos on November 23, 2008, 04:44:16 PM
Thanks See_Jerek  :D!!







Carlitos  8)
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: See_Jerek on November 23, 2008, 04:46:09 PM
Quote from: Carlitos on November 23, 2008, 04:44:16 PM
Thanks See_Jerek  :D!!







Carlitos  8)

Hey mate,

You should get in by now,do you happen to be Carlo mate?
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: See_Jerek on November 23, 2008, 04:49:23 PM
Quote from: beocino on November 20, 2008, 11:31:43 AM
Well evidently all of your money worries are over now that ibs4 has been shared with the world. Free copies are being distributed all over the internet so dont miss out.


Hello Beocino,

Thank you for the system,I have send it to those who requested and PM me for it on this thread.

Did I miss out anyone?

Best regards,
Jerek
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: VICLIMKS on November 24, 2008, 12:36:02 AM
Quote from: see_jerek on November 23, 2008, 04:49:23 PM
Quote from: beocino on November 20, 2008, 11:31:43 AM
Well evidently all of your money worries are over now that ibs4 has been shared with the world. Free copies are being distributed all over the internet so dont miss out.


Hello Beocino,

Thank you for the system,I have send it to those who requested and PM me for it on this thread.

Did I miss out anyone?

Best regards,
Jerek

see_jerek........could u pls.send me a copy........viclimks@yahoo.com.....thanks
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: See_Jerek on November 24, 2008, 04:26:31 AM
Quote from: VICLIMKS on November 24, 2008, 12:36:02 AM
Quote from: see_jerek on November 23, 2008, 04:49:23 PM
Quote from: beocino on November 20, 2008, 11:31:43 AM
Well evidently all of your money worries are over now that ibs4 has been shared with the world. Free copies are being distributed all over the internet so dont miss out.


Hello mate,

You've got mail

Regards,
Jerek


Hello Beocino,

Thank you for the system,I have send it to those who requested and PM me for it on this thread.

Did I miss out anyone?

Best regards,
Jerek

see_jerek........could u pls.send me a copy........viclimks@yahoo.com.....thanks
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: See_Jerek on November 24, 2008, 03:38:36 PM
Anyone else?I am closing the orders at the end of this week.My mail box is flooded everday for goodness sake but its ok doesnt matter. Its all for the good of the members here.

What I am doing and contributing is nothing at all compare to what the teachers,testers and moderators here,just doing my little bit for the community. We all have a common enemy "the casino"

and its a good feeling hammering them lol
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: VICLIMKS on November 24, 2008, 05:46:48 PM
Quote from: see_jerek on November 24, 2008, 03:38:36 PM
Anyone else?I am closing the orders at the end of this week.My mail box is flooded everday for goodness sake but its ok doesnt matter. Its all for the good of the members here.

What I am doing and contributing is nothing at all compare to what the teachers,testers and moderators here,just doing my little bit for the community. We all have a common enemy "the casino"

and its a good feeling hammering them lol
Thank u a million see jerek........will test it n keep all members update ;)
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: See_Jerek on November 24, 2008, 05:57:43 PM
Quote from: VICLIMKS on November 24, 2008, 05:46:48 PM
Quote from: see_jerek on November 24, 2008, 03:38:36 PM
Anyone else?I am closing the orders at the end of this week.My mail box is flooded everday for goodness sake but its ok doesnt matter. Its all for the good of the members here.

What I am doing and contributing is nothing at all compare to what the teachers,testers and moderators here,just doing my little bit for the community. We all have a common enemy "the casino"

and its a good feeling hammering them lol
Thank u a million see jerek........will test it n keep all members update ;)

Hello mate,

There is no need to thank me,it comes from Bencino not me.Credit should go to him not me

Regards,
Jerek
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: VICLIMKS on November 25, 2008, 05:11:13 PM
see jerek.....is this system really working out for u.....ibs4???
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: See_Jerek on November 25, 2008, 08:28:41 PM
Quote from: VICLIMKS on November 25, 2008, 05:11:13 PM
see jerek.....is this system really working out for u.....ibs4???

Hello mate,

My hands are pretty tied up at the moment,I didnt even have the chance to read the document yet,there are still a few systems I need to work on and test before I get to the IBS4.


Maybe other members who have already recieve and studied it can advise you on this.I am also hoping someone who got the system can maybe share their opinions on it.
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: madupz4 on November 26, 2008, 03:27:09 AM
Quote from: see_jerek on November 24, 2008, 05:57:43 PM
Quote from: VICLIMKS on November 24, 2008, 05:46:48 PM
Quote from: see_jerek on November 24, 2008, 03:38:36 PM
Anyone else?I am closing the orders at the end of this week.My mail box is flooded everday for goodness sake but its ok doesnt matter. Its all for the good of the members here.

What I am doing and contributing is nothing at all compare to what the teachers,testers and moderators here,just doing my little bit for the community. We all have a common enemy "the casino"

and its a good feeling hammering them lol
Thank u a million see jerek........will test it n keep all members update ;)



Hello mate,

There is no need to thank me,it comes from Bencino not me.Credit should go to him not me

Regards,
Jerek

see_jerek,

or anyone who has the IBS4, please forward me this system so I can test it out.

Thanks
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: Lanky on November 26, 2008, 04:03:31 AM
Hi madupz4 .

Check Your Email My Friend.

Lanky
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: StarStar on November 26, 2008, 09:06:03 AM
Hi...
Pls send to my email ya.

nicholastze85@yahoo.com


Thank you so much...
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: Shorty on November 26, 2008, 09:08:28 AM
Sent.
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: See_Jerek on November 26, 2008, 09:25:15 AM
thanks guys for helping out to send,i have lots of requests for this one,I can trying to keep up.

Thank you for lending a hand for spreading the joy to the world,hey X'mas is round the corner
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: Natural9 on November 26, 2008, 10:55:26 AM
You need balls of stell to make ibs work and even then it might not

The cancellation methods can get way out of hand of you get the losses in the wrong place even with the delay the labby according to  the document it could still hurt you if you get that session from hell

Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: Worm on November 26, 2008, 01:21:30 PM
Yes Natural9 you are right. The WLWL sessions will kill you ;) Even though he claim they wont happen that often i think it will...
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: See_Jerek on November 26, 2008, 05:01:19 PM
Quote from: starstar on November 26, 2008, 09:06:03 AM
Hi...
Pls send to my email ya.

nicholastze85@yahoo.com


Thank you so much...

Got it already mate?if not I can send it to you
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: See_Jerek on November 26, 2008, 05:04:44 PM
Quote from: Worm on November 26, 2008, 01:21:30 PM
Yes Natural9 you are right. The WLWL sessions will kill you ;) Even though he claim they wont happen that often I think it will...

Hi worm,

of course,when it comes to gambling nothing is for sure and impossibles or unlikely situation will happen when you play for real.Its always the case
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: Worm on November 26, 2008, 06:28:44 PM
Quote from: see_jerek on November 26, 2008, 05:04:44 PM
Quote from: Worm on November 26, 2008, 01:21:30 PM
Yes Natural9 you are right. The WLWL sessions will kill you ;) Even though he claim they wont happen that often I think it will...

Hi worm,

of course,when it comes to gambling nothing is for sure and impossibles or unlikely situation will happen when you play for real.Its always the case

I agree jerek, Gl to all trying the IBS4 out though [smiley=angel.gif]
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: JLP on November 27, 2008, 11:44:53 AM
Hi,

Here is another approach betting the opposite of the 6 last decisions.

nolinks://systemsforum.blogspot.com/2008/11/ol6-system-for-baccarat.html (nolinks://systemsforum.blogspot.com/2008/11/ol6-system-for-baccarat.html)

Cheers,
JLP.-
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: Worm on November 27, 2008, 12:41:27 PM
Quote from: JLP on November 27, 2008, 11:44:53 AM
Hi,

Here is another approach betting the opposite of the 6 last decisions.

nolinks://systemsforum.blogspot.com/2008/11/ol6-system-for-baccarat.html (nolinks://systemsforum.blogspot.com/2008/11/ol6-system-for-baccarat.html)

Cheers,
JLP.-

TY JLP yes thats another way to bet but would never bet the marty ;)
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: See_Jerek on November 27, 2008, 04:59:35 PM
Quote from: Worm on November 27, 2008, 12:41:27 PM
Quote from: JLP on November 27, 2008, 11:44:53 AM
Hi,

Here is another approach betting the opposite of the 6 last decisions.

nolinks://systemsforum.blogspot.com/2008/11/ol6-system-for-baccarat.html (nolinks://systemsforum.blogspot.com/2008/11/ol6-system-for-baccarat.html)

Cheers,
JLP.-

TY JLP yes thats another way to bet but would never bet the marty ;)

In others words its flat betting right?

Regards.
Jerek
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: JLP on December 28, 2008, 01:57:11 AM
Hi,

Ebook about Baccarat - we found very rare about it, there are more for Roulette :

nolinks://nolinks.swapme.net/baccarat-free/BACCARAT%20SYSTEM.pdf (nolinks://nolinks.swapme.net/baccarat-free/BACCARAT%20SYSTEM.pdf)

Cheers, :) :) ;)
JLP.-
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: hermes on January 10, 2009, 12:24:20 AM
I think that ibs4 is a last version from Izak, played on ECs. Am I right?
Hermes
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: Worm on January 11, 2009, 12:27:10 PM
Quote from: hermes on January 10, 2009, 12:24:20 AM
I think that ibs4 is a last version from Izak, played on ECs. Am I right?
Hermes
Dunno if its the last but its the latest i think...
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: lucky_strike on January 11, 2009, 12:40:52 PM

lol i have it but i haven read it, should i read it, is it any good or just your average garbage?

LS
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: See_Jerek on January 11, 2009, 05:32:00 PM
IBS is a very good systm  it has vertgood bet slecetion.he ony thing The progression is sonerhing risky and I ausimng me owmn system for progression
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: Worm on January 11, 2009, 07:21:26 PM
I just feel the tracking takes longer and it havent been that much more succesfull then some other bet selections..gotta agree with the MM its crap ;)
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: See_Jerek on January 13, 2009, 04:37:16 PM
Quote from: Worm on January 11, 2009, 07:21:26 PM
I just feel the tracking takes longer and it havent been that much more succesfull then some other bet selections..gotta agree with the MM its crap ;)


Hello Worm,

Use the Tera TNT progression with IBS4 bet selection?Just a silly idea I am toying with.What do you think?
Or use CPS10 ladder progression for ECs,it might just work.....just
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: lucky_strike on January 13, 2009, 05:55:35 PM

I would be happy to try that with TNT Tera with that bet selection.
But i don't know how to find the TNT Tera, can you send it to me.

Thanks.

LS
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: Natural9 on January 13, 2009, 06:22:52 PM
If possible are you able to post it here

Regards Rodney
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: lucky_strike on January 13, 2009, 06:40:04 PM

I think it has to be sent as an PM because there is copyrights laws.

Cheers LS
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: See_Jerek on January 14, 2009, 01:10:53 AM
Quote from: Lucky Strike on January 13, 2009, 05:55:35 PM
I would be happy to try that with TNT Tera with that bet selection.
But I don't know how to find the TNT Tera, can you send it to me.

Thanks.

LS

PM me your email

Download a free effective roulette system from nolinks.genuinewinner.com
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: Novobetor on January 14, 2009, 03:07:53 PM
Hi, Can I have a copy of the IBS4 system?  Anyone? My email is endanger_1983@yahoo.com.

Thanks in advance  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: JLP on January 14, 2009, 04:32:53 PM
Hi All,  :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Here is another one : PowerPlay Baccarat Level1.
This level plays only on Banker.
It seems there are 2 levels more (2 & 3).
The level 2 bets both on player and banker with the same strategy I guess.
Someone have the other 2 levels??
PM me or post it.

nolinks://nolinks.scribd.com/doc/8120694/Power-Play (nolinks://nolinks.scribd.com/doc/8120694/Power-Play)

Cheers, :) :) ;)
JLP.-
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: Natural9 on January 15, 2009, 07:57:43 PM
Tested powerplay years ago all failed miserably levels 1,2 and 3

Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: JavierTT on January 15, 2009, 10:23:38 PM
Yes, natural9. Powerplay failed. It isnt a good system. I have tried 1, 2, 3 and 4 !!! level. No one works.

Greetings.

Javier.
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: JLP on January 15, 2009, 10:30:16 PM
Hi guys,

Thanks for the advice.
Well, another one for the garbage. :-[ :-[ :-[

Cheers, :D ;)
JLP.-
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: See_Jerek on January 16, 2009, 02:03:33 AM
Any reviews on IBS4?
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: See_Jerek on January 16, 2009, 04:00:18 AM
Quote from: Natural9 on January 15, 2009, 07:57:43 PM
Tested powerplay years ago all failed miserably levels 1,2 and 3



Hmmm.this is something worth pondering about.... 

Has anyone check out this?

nolinks://nolinks.beatthecasino.com/bb/baccarat/4944-questions-about-free-systems-u2hisap.html (nolinks://nolinks.beatthecasino.com/bb/baccarat/4944-questions-about-free-systems-u2hisap.html)

The reviews seems very very good at least to me.....Doesnt look like a scam and its free but it looks very complicated
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: lucky_strike on January 16, 2009, 05:52:23 AM
Hi see_jerek.

I did test hes free ones and this is how it looks like... and U2HISAP is just one other method based on the same thing with a tweak... i think...
If i remember it correct it was like playing against an static bet selection with 7 steps or some-thing like that.

LW Registry:
WWLLWLWLLWLWLLWLWLWWWWWWLLLLLWWWWLLLWLLLLLWLWWLWLWLWLWLWLWWWWLLWLWW


(https://www.vlsroulette.com/proxy.php?request=nolinks%3A%2F%2Fimg139.imageshack.us%2Fimg139%2F2821%2Fu3hibasic1kv4.png&hash=7d55cd3ee5e904274dda328f60791758b3ad017e)

LW Registry
LLWWWLWLWWLLLLLLLWLWWWWWWLLLWLWWWWWWWWWLLLWWLWLWWLLLWLLLLWWWWWLWW


(https://www.vlsroulette.com/proxy.php?request=nolinks%3A%2F%2Fimg139.imageshack.us%2Fimg139%2F6820%2Fu3hibasic2pg1.png&hash=ed9137fb4bdf8672ee9e67024a33c17ee0be7446)

LS
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: See_Jerek on January 17, 2009, 05:42:32 AM
Quote from: Lucky Strike on January 16, 2009, 05:52:23 AM
Hi see_jerek.

I did test hes free ones and this is how it looks like... and U2HISAP is just one other method based on the same thing with a tweak... i think...
If i remember it correct it was like playing against an static bet selection with 7 steps or some-thing like that.

LW Registry:
WWLLWLWLLWLWLLWLWLWWWWWWLLLLLWWWWLLLWLLLLLWLWWLWLWLWLWLWLWWWWLLWLWW


(https://www.vlsroulette.com/proxy.php?request=nolinks%3A%2F%2Fimg139.imageshack.us%2Fimg139%2F2821%2Fu3hibasic1kv4.png&hash=7d55cd3ee5e904274dda328f60791758b3ad017e)

LW Registry
LLWWWLWLWWLLLLLLLWLWWWWWWLLLWLWWWWWWWWWLLLWWLWLWWLLLWLLLLWWWWWLWW


(https://www.vlsroulette.com/proxy.php?request=nolinks%3A%2F%2Fimg139.imageshack.us%2Fimg139%2F6820%2Fu3hibasic2pg1.png&hash=ed9137fb4bdf8672ee9e67024a33c17ee0be7446)

LS

LS,hope you are chilling over the weekend as usual lol ;D
Though I am chinese,I didnt know until today why my kind is so keen in baccarat.
With my limited knowledge in this game,the W streaks look really kick ass.

The bottom line is is this worth a punt?
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: lucky_strike on January 17, 2009, 06:37:03 AM

Hi see_jerek.

I don't know what to reply, i have  only test it for a short period of time.
You can get an free member-chip at that site and read about hes free methods.

I think its a good way of play if you play for fun and not take things so serios.
But if you look for getting a method that wins more then you lose, then you can forget about it.

Cheers Lucky Strike
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: See_Jerek on January 17, 2009, 07:54:09 AM
Quote from: Lucky Strike on January 17, 2009, 06:37:03 AM
Hi see_jerek.

I don't know what to reply, i have  only test it for a short period of time.
You can get an free member-chip at that site and read about hes free methods.

I think its a good way of play if you play for fun and not take things so serios.
But if you look for getting a method that wins more then you lose, then you can forget about it.

Cheers Lucky Strike

Yes lucky,and you have to have $500 to join the private forum and it says go out and make the money needed with th system.
I dont know,it looks good so far isnt it?
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: lucky_strike on January 17, 2009, 08:18:18 AM

Hi see_jerek you get me wrong.

I told you that they have an free member-chip and you don't have to pay money for that.
And as an free member you can read about this methods for free, you don't need to pay and get into the private forum.

I would not recommend any one pay money for a member-chip or an roulette method.

Cheers Lucky Strike
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: See_Jerek on January 17, 2009, 08:21:41 AM
Quote from: Lucky Strike on January 17, 2009, 08:18:18 AM
Hi see_jerek you get me wrong.

I told you that they have an free member-chip and you don't have to pay money for that.
And as an free member you can read about this methods for free, you don't need to pay and get into the private forum.

I would not recommend any one pay money for a member-chip or an roulette method.

Cheers Lucky Strike


of course mate! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: Worm on January 17, 2009, 08:32:49 AM
Well Jerek it´s not strange that you like Bacc its a great game..Almost as good as Pai Gow poker  ;)
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: See_Jerek on January 30, 2009, 04:17:10 PM
Quote from: Worm on January 17, 2009, 08:32:49 AM
Well Jerek it´s not strange that you like Bacc its a great game..Almost as good as Pai Gow poker  ;)

Yes worm,I am beginning to like it.It seems easier to get out with a win if you have a good system and stop loss.I have just celebrated the Chinese Lunar New Year last week and preparing to get back to my testing and challenge real soon.

and yeah no nasty zeros that is the best part of it
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: JLP on January 30, 2009, 08:58:28 PM
Hi All,

Someone have some information about the U2HISAP?? :o :o
I know it´s base on the basic U2HI free stuff with an addition - the SAP concept.
It seems to win consistently and on all patterns, but that is really impossible I think.
I read on posts on GG that it adapts to lose to the least probable pattern and from here comes the consistency.

Cheers, :D :D
JLP.-
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: See_Jerek on January 31, 2009, 04:11:39 AM
Quote from: JLP on January 30, 2009, 08:58:28 PM
Hi All,

Someone have some information about the U2HISAP?? :o :o
I know it´s base on the basic U2HI free stuff with an addition - the SAP concept.
It seems to win consistently and on all patterns, but that is really impossible I think.
I read on posts on GG that it adapts to lose to the least probable pattern and from here comes the consistency.

Cheers, :D :D
JLP.-


Hello JLP,

I am one of those that is very keen on this method as well.Has good reviews about it,a lot of people are talking about it.I am sure it has a certain weekness as well can't be 100% but with proper stop loss and good MM it could be a holy grail who knows.I have exchange emails with the system creator and have been told that it has a 85% win rate and average 8 units profit per shoe.However it cost US$500.00 to buy a life time membership into the pirvate forum.When to comes to buying systems,I beg to differ from others.of course,there is a real chance of getting scam.The only methods that have worked for me are those that I paid for with money,those that are free never made me a winner they only made me lose.No offence to anyone but thats the truth,I have been pretty successful with a roulette system that I bought and I may just take another chance at the barracat system for US$500 I have won more than what I have paid for with that roulette system and much more extras.On the other hand,those systems that are free never won me anything,they never work at least for me.

Do the simple maths,you can win an average of 8 units per shoe,you only need 40 units of BR and stop loss of 8 units.You highest bet is only 2 units.How much can you lose?
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: lucky_strike on January 31, 2009, 07:58:46 AM
QuoteHi All,

Someone have some information about the U2HISAP?? 
I know it´s base on the basic U2HI free stuff with an addition - the SAP concept.
It seems to win consistently and on all patterns, but that is really impossible I think.
I read on posts on GG that it adapts to lose to the least probable pattern and from here comes the consistency.


Hi JLP.
If you read the previos post you can see that you can get an free-member chip to get free U2HI or U3HI.
Thats all you need because there it does not exist so many tweaks you can improve them with.
I am sure that you can make them work better then the free version.

Cheers LS
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: See_Jerek on January 31, 2009, 08:19:48 AM
Quote from: Lucky Strike on January 31, 2009, 07:58:46 AM
Hi JLP.
If you read the previos post you can see that you can get an free-member chip to get free U2HI or U3HI.
Thats all you need because there it does not exist so many tweaks you can improve them with.
I am sure that you can make them work better then the free version.

Cheers LS

Yes JLP,you can get the free system not all the stuff.

@ LS

Since you have done some short tests with the free systems,can I ask you anything that I do not comprehend?I will start taking a look at them sometime next week
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: JLP on January 31, 2009, 07:25:24 PM
Quote from: See_Jerek on January 31, 2009, 08:19:48 AM
Yes JLP,you can get the free system not all the stuff.

@ LS

Since you have done some short tests with the free systems,can I ask you anything that I do not comprehend?I will start taking a look at them sometime next week

Hi Lucky & Jerek,

Long time ago I downloaded the free stuff when nat9 posted a link to the site on baccarat forum in roulleteforum.net.I have it burned on CD, have to search for it.
Now in the last days I read other posts on GG and could gather more info about the SAP and the twister system.
They don´t talk good about this (nat9 & BG).Is complicated and when we change according to the rules the shoe can go to another way as all shoe changes fast from one side to the other so .........
Also they say the ebook and the rules is incomplete as they change the rules everytime.
Here I attach the info I could gather from it with all the rules - that would give you Jerek an idea of it.
Read the thread on GG : Ellis strikes back - on old posts in Baccarat section - that is all explained

Cheers, :D :D ;)
JLP.-
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: See_Jerek on January 31, 2009, 08:03:26 PM
Quote from: JLP on January 31, 2009, 07:25:24 PM
Hi Lucky & Jerek,

Long time ago I downloaded the free stuff when nat9 posted a link to the site on baccarat forum in roulleteforum.net.I have it burned on CD, have to search for it.
Now in the last days I read other posts on GG and could gather more info about the SAP and the twister system.
They don´t talk good about this (nat9 & BG).Is complicated and when we change according to the rules the shoe can go to another way as all shoe changes fast from one side to the other so .........
Also they say the ebook and the rules is incomplete as they change the rules everytime.
Here I attach the info I could gather from it with all the rules - that would give you Jerek an idea of it.
Read the thread on GG : Ellis strikes back - on old posts in Baccarat section - that is all explained

Cheers, :D :D ;)
JLP.-


Hello JLP!You are the man! :thumbsup:
You are quite a data junk yourself lol  ;D
The person I wrote to was Ellis,the 2 members you mentioned are they members of the paid forum?If they are not then its not fair to comment that the methods do not work.The logic here is good things don't come cheap,we all know that don't we?The fact is as long as you are not a paid member of the forum,you do not get the whole thing and the worst is not getting Ellis help and advice.I think this will make a big difference between winning and losing.

Thank for all the information,I will take a good look at them next week.Appreciate your kind guesture JLP :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: JLP on January 31, 2009, 09:05:08 PM
Hi Jerek,

The 2 members I mentioned are from GG forum.
If you search for Ellis on GG baccarat forum (show all posts) you find a lot of threads that talk about the SAP.
That little ebook I compiled made a synthesis of all that posts and the essential concept.

nolinks://nolinks.gamblersglen.com/cgi-bin/teemz/tzsearch.cgi?board=_master&query=Ellis&forumlist=Baccarat_Message_Board&action=search (nolinks://nolinks.gamblersglen.com/cgi-bin/teemz/tzsearch.cgi?board=_master&query=Ellis&forumlist=Baccarat_Message_Board&action=search)

BTW, on the free public stuff in Ellis Forum on last page 9 is explained another baccarat method :AOW method also with 3 sample shoes played in jpg :
nolinks://nolinks.beatthecasino.com/bb/baccarat/24-new-rules-ellis-12-07-5-sample-games.html (nolinks://nolinks.beatthecasino.com/bb/baccarat/24-new-rules-ellis-12-07-5-sample-games.html)

Cheers,
JLP.-
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: See_Jerek on February 02, 2009, 02:59:20 AM
Quote from: GARNabby on February 02, 2009, 02:39:49 AM
I'm inviting players to a private forum exclusively for new baccarat systems/strategies.  No strings attached.  Register at baccaratforums.com, and email me your username to invite you.  Invitations will be limited (to about 1000.)



Count me in mate,I have send you PM
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: lucky_strike on February 02, 2009, 06:01:13 AM
QuoteI'm inviting players to a private forum exclusively for new baccarat systems/strategies.  No strings attached.  Register at baccaratforums.com, and email me your username to invite you.  Invitations will be limited (to about 1000.)

lol nice i think i can contribute i will try to become an member.

Cheers LS
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: See_Jerek on February 02, 2009, 06:38:45 AM
Quote from: Lucky Strike on February 02, 2009, 06:01:13 AM
lol nice i think i can contribute i will try to become an member.

Cheers LS

Of course LS,as an EC expert yourself your contributions are defintely required and of course we need people who like to chill as well lol ;D
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: lucky_strike on February 02, 2009, 07:33:57 AM

Hi see_jerek i become an member and made my first post :thumbsup:

Cheers LS
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: Learning on April 12, 2009, 10:40:06 PM
Hi, and I would love to have a copy of it please.   hgcserving@yahoo.com
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: JLP on April 12, 2009, 11:03:48 PM
Hi,

Someone have some idea about BigJoe Baccarat System??
This was posted on a rush on GG as the ultimate HG for Baccarat and inmediatelly few posts later the system was deleted by BJ.
I got some extract and part of it but don´t get it.

Cheers, :D
JLP.-
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: Natural9 on April 13, 2009, 02:05:15 AM
You are better off with IBS 5 i have a feeling it may even be a winner tho you have to stomach big bets and drawdowns from time to time up to 160 units

It didn't fail a run in Zumma and that's not to say it will never fail a run but there are ways to the system to limit bad runs

I hope this helps

Regards
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: Natural9 on April 13, 2009, 02:07:25 AM
Quote from: JLP on April 12, 2009, 11:03:48 PM
Hi,

Someone have some idea about BigJoe Baccarat System??
This was posted on a rush on GG as the ultimate HG for Baccarat and inmediatelly few posts later the system was deleted by BJ.
I got some extract and part of it but don´t get it.

Cheers, :D
JLP.-


Yeh I saw that to in GG was too late to see the actual strategy he has some good ideas that dude I wish i knew what that strategy was
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: JLP on April 13, 2009, 01:33:35 PM
Quote from: Natural9 on April 13, 2009, 02:07:25 AM
Yeh I saw that to in GG was too late to see the actual strategy he has some good ideas that dude I wish I knew what that strategy was

Hi natural9,

This extract was posted on GG on thread :
nolinks://nolinks.gamblersglen.com/cgi-bin/teemz/teemz.cgi?board=_master&action=opentopic&topic=808&forum=Baccarat_Message_Board (nolinks://nolinks.gamblersglen.com/cgi-bin/teemz/teemz.cgi?board=_master&action=opentopic&topic=808&forum=Baccarat_Message_Board)

And for all the scammers in our universe, here is bigjoe's essay:
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This is one of my older systems I came up with sometime ago. I think it will help those that seem to be frustrated in their quest to find a consistent winning system.....

First let me say it will sound complicated to some. If you take your time writing it out and practice a few of your actual shoes you may find it to be something worth learning.

It is a way to track two columns as a decision maker. You will be trending those two columns for hits or misses. Like if it hits play it to hit after it has shown itself to do that. Or follow two matches hit or miss. I will follow misses as quick as hits. Misses are nothing but the opposite of what your doing sometimes their streaks or dominant will last an entire shoe. Other times you will play it to hit then end up playing it to lose. Seldom will you not have a play in the two columns. If you do but keep missing sit out till you hit one or two whatever through practice you are confortable with. Some will read this better than myself, others may find it to difficult. But, it is worth the practice if you never have looked at it this way before......

Take your card vertically. The first two columns are player and banker. Every four down put a line across those two squares. You are marking off blocks of four decisions. Every other four decisions use a different color of ink. Red black, or whatever sharpies you have.

Now take a highlight marker and in the third column highlight down eight decisions. This will end of course at the second color marker. Now the fourth col highlight eight decisions. Alternate this back and forth to the end of the card.

The highlighted sections are zz or ppbb the blank part of col three and four are z or pbpb the reverse of these are bbpp and bpbp.

After the first decision use it to be the first part of the pattern. If it is p your circling for ppbb and pbpb if it is b your on the reverse. Put an r to the side at the top of the col to remember at a glance you want to track reverse or bbpp bpbp. At the end of the eight decisions use the last decision of the last eight to decide what to track now if it ended p you want reverse b you want the straight ppbb pbpb.

What you will now see is those col giving very strong fingerprints more often than the actual decision stream will. While both are strong patterns if played straight through you will see more dominant selection to play through or single follows both followin etc, etc.

nolinks://nolinks.gamblersglen.com/cgi-bin/teemz/teemz.cgi?board=_master&action=opentopic&topic=806&forum=Baccarat_Message_Board (nolinks://nolinks.gamblersglen.com/cgi-bin/teemz/teemz.cgi?board=_master&action=opentopic&topic=806&forum=Baccarat_Message_Board)

And extracts of the MM:

PS: forgot the mm to go with it. If you get good at this you should seldom if ever see ten losses stack up on you. A 1 2 3 starting over if you win the 3 and if not flat betting the 3 till you recover is not a bad mm. 1 2 4 is better for obvious reasons you catch the chop and flat bet the 4 till your back. Never play past ten losses stacking up on you period. But that is also just my rule.....

You could use a D'Lam with it or a Fibo both will kill if you get good at it.........

PS... I almost forgot in the post above and the original I forgot and it probably don't need said. But when its streaking like a wildfire parlays ain't out of the question. Three parlays and it might be time to go home.
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If someone have idea how to use it, put an example on a test shoe.
I look form various points but don´t get it yet.
I make an xls sheet of how it can be, but it´s only an idea.

Cheers,
JLP.-
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: Natural9 on April 13, 2009, 01:54:15 PM
Thanks for that JLP wow is sure looking complicated but hey it like nearly 3 am in the morning here so the brain is a little scrambled will looks hard at it in next few days

Regards Rodney
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: JLP on April 13, 2009, 08:41:26 PM
Hi,

Heres´s the xls file based on the description of the system with an example shoe from Dublinbet.But this is just the base idea to start looking on.
The first 2 columns for Banker and Player divided in blocks of 4, separated by a line and with different colors.The 3rd and 4th columns highlighted in blocks of 8 and alternate between them till end of shoe, where we follow the track of the patterns of the right.
The second sheet serves to fill the shoes.
I put to the right the patterns BJ he refers to track - normal and reverse.
If someone understand BJ system post an example shoe.

Cheers,
JLP.-
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: Natural9 on April 17, 2009, 11:05:36 PM
Stil ldon't get it

Has anyone got any clues
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: Learning on April 27, 2009, 09:50:17 PM
Hi See_Jerek, and I would really appreciate having a copy of it, please.   Thank you, and I am always learning
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: JLP on June 13, 2009, 11:12:45 PM
Hi,

I got link to download some Baccarat, craps and Roulette systems.
I will post here the complete set compressed with Winrar, but divided in 4 posts because the maximum attachment size allowed is 2048 Kb (2 MB).
Here´s the list and the first set.

Cheers,  :D :D
JLP.-
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: JLP on June 13, 2009, 11:16:45 PM
Here´s 2nd. set.
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: JLP on June 13, 2009, 11:20:09 PM
3rd. set.

:D
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: JLP on June 13, 2009, 11:24:23 PM
Last 4th set.
In the list figures Powerplay roulette 2002.

Enjoy,  :D :D

JLP.-
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: StarStar on June 14, 2009, 10:22:57 AM
anyone can guide how to play the "big joe" method..

Im so confuse of the strategy...

Thanks
Title: Re: Baccarat strategy
Post by: Mogwai on August 12, 2009, 05:20:34 AM
Hello friends,

well JLP as far the xls about big joe post is concerned, I wonder for example on column A, why you have PPBBPBPB and not PPBBPPBB??? He says the blank parts are PBPB, the last four of the first 8 are not blank... :scratch_ones_head:

I do not quite get what he means by trending the two columns too  though...

My Best Regards