There must be a way to exploit this!

[ChickenDinner]

I know this has been mentioned before, but has anyone got any really good ideas for exploiting a certain well-known OCs No Zero Roulette? Here's the min/maxes:-


Straight up: 2 min, 5 max
Split: 2 min, 10 max
Street: 2 min, 15 max
Corner: 2 min, 20 max
Line: 2 min, 30 max

Column: 5 min, 10 max
Dozen: dito
ECs: dito

And yes, you can bet to cover the whole table and never lose if you need to track spins.

I've had several fun-money sessions by covering min bets on 5 lines & a corner bet (covering 34 numbers) with a 1 unit progression after a loss, and always end up in profit...eventually. I've also had success with the numerous other line betting methods. But what is the most effective way to exploit these min/maxes...I'm racking my brain....

Any ideas? (I haven't mentioned the OCs name because I don't want them to read this thread!)

[TwoCatSam]

I'm racking my brain....

CD......Is brainstorming close enough?  Couldn't find the "brain racking" section!

Sam

[ChickenDinner]

Samster, you can rack, storm, meditate...or whatever it takes!

[TicTacToe]

CD

What are the increments on the EC's

5 min 10 max OK but what increments ....5...5.25...5.50...5.75...6.00  etc

Is this allowed or is it 5 or 10 nothing in between ?

TTT

[TwoCatSam]

I've never known a place where you couldn't bet $6 on red if the minimum was $5.

[TicTacToe]

TCS

Welcome to my world....


Outside bets... 25.00 min .... 500.00 max   played in 25.00 increments.  Total bets for the table 2000.00 Max

Inside bets are either 1.00 units or 5.00 units or 10.00 units. to a max of 25X ( 1-25 )  ( 5-125 ) ( 10 - 250 ) in increments of the base bet. Also to a 2000.00 Max bet for the table.( for 1 spin ).

And if you play inside you can't play outside and vice-versa

American Wheel to make things worst.

Ah well, It's that or go to AC for the weed-end.

Casino strategy to limit system players.

So many of the systems here would play at my Casino, but many only up to a certain level.


TTT

[TwoCatSam]

TTT

Are we talking Indian casino here?  Truly, I've never heard of such!!

Sam

[ChickenDinner]

@ TTT:

Although the inside bet min is 2 units, you can increase bets by increments of 1, and this goes for the 5 unit min outside bets as well. However, an important thing I forget to mention - table max is 50 units. This is obviously a way of protecting their asses against progression players. But I like it because it encourages you to use a very mild progression only.

[Empro]

I'm assuming you guys are talking about an RNG no zero roulette and if that is the case maybe you should check out betvoyager.com

They have a No Zero Roulette(RNG) with the following limits:

On each game table, players can use euro chips with a face-value ranging from 10 cents to €100. The minimum bet is 10 cents, but total bet on a table cannot be less than €1. The maximum bet depends on the bet type. On most of our roulette tables, the maximum bets are as follows:

    * on one number – €100
    * on two numbers – €100
    * on three numbers – €150
    * on four numbers – €200
    * on six numbers – €300
    * on a dozen or on a column – €600
    * on even chances – €1000

And if you want make smaller bets than 1€ you can for example put 1€ on red and 1.1€ on black to have a a 0.1€ bet on black.

They also boast about their Randomness Control:

This system gives players a 100% guarantee that the casino can't affect the game process during play and lets our players confirm the random nature of every game.

Oh by the way im in no way affiliated with this site, just found it from the baccarat section.


Empro

[ChickenDinner]

Thanks Empro. I've heard good things about BetVoyager, and their limits/maxes are much more flexible. But I don't trust them to always pay out. I don't like OCs at the best of times, so if I'm gonna use one, I'll feel much safer risking my hard earned cash with the big established ones.

CD

[TicTacToe]

CD

I would probably play R/B using Lanky's 6 point divisor plan

nolinks://vlsroulette.com/money-management/6-point-divisor-plan/

and if you reach table limits just add a divisor to help bring your bet down under the limit.

As for how to play the R/B selection .... play RRBB and repeat continually. Or you might want to play Before Last. I prefer the RRBB method.

Hope you break the bank

TTT

Let us know how this strategy works out.

[ChickenDinner]

Thanks TTT. Here we go:

1ST TEST, PLAYING RRBB

£30 TARGET

30 DIVIDED BY 6 = £5

£5 IS OUR OPENING BET.

£5 bet, lost

35/6 = 6

£6 bet, lost

41/6 = 7

£7 bet, lost

48/6 = 8

£8 bet, win

40/6 =7

£7 bet, lost

47/6 = 8

£8 bet, won

39/6 = 6

£6 bet, won

33/6 = 5

£5 bet, won

28/6 = 5

£5 bet, won

23/6 = 5

£5 bet, lost

28/6 = 5

£5 bet, lost

33/6 = 5

£5 bet, won

28/6 = 5

£5 bet, won
23/6= 5

£5 bet, lost

28/6= 5

£5 bet, won

23/6= 5

£5 bet, won

18/6= 5

£5 bet, lost

23/6= 5

£5 bet, lost

28/6= 5

£5 bet, lost

33/6

£5 bet, won

28/6

£5 bet, won

23/6

£5 bet, won

18/6

£5 bet, won

13/6

£5 bet, lost

18/6

£5 bet, won

13/6

£5 bet, won

8/6

£5 bet, won

3/6

Bet £5, won


Win £32 IN 28 SPINS [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Not broke the bank yet, but a good start! I'll keep ya posted with more results. The only potential problem I can foresee is a long negative dispersion in which I won't be able to raise above 10 units. In which case it could take a long time to recover. But I'm sure it'll be worth the wait $$$!

PS The limits/maxes can, with some tweaking, also work great on a line ATILA approach...yes oh yes...I'm having fun with this baby!

[TicTacToe]

CD

From what I can see, you're playing aggressively, which is fine, but if things get out of hand you can add a Safety Brake anywhere you want. It'll be a bit more of a grind, but will a add a safety factor to your progression.

TTT

[Lanky]

ChickenDinner.

Mate if you put the divisor up 1 after every 2 losses it will keep you bets down or at least from rising too high too quickly.

You may or may not like to bring the Divisor down under 6.

I have done the exact same amount of bets that You did & I came up with winning 12 more units.
And that was because I let the Divisor slide up One on 2 losses in a row & come down One on a win.
And also restarting when Either Even or Winning at any time will keep the bets lower.

Both Ways have merit.
Doing it Your way may suit You better & I merely put this here to show you both sides of it My Friend.
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Thanks TTT. Here we go:

1ST TEST, PLAYING RRBB

£30 TARGET

30 DIVIDED BY 6 = £5

£5 IS OUR OPENING BET.

£5 bet, lost->6/30=5=35 lost

35/6 = 6

£6 bet, lost->6/35=6=41 lost

41/6 = 7-

£7 bet, lost->7/41=6=47 lost

48/6 = 8

£8 bet, win->7/47=7=54 Won-14=40

40/6 =7

£7 bet, lost->6/40=7=47 lost

47/6 = 8

£8 bet, won->6/47=8=55 won-16=39

39/6 = 6

£6 bet, won->5/39=8=47 won-16=31

33/6 = 5

£5 bet, won->4/31=8=39 won-16=23/30={7} profit

28/6 = 5

£5 bet, won->6/30=5=35 won-10=25/30=5+7={12} P

23/6 = 5

£5 bet, lost-> =6/30=5=35 lost

28/6 = 5

£5 bet, lost->6/35=6=41 lost

33/6 = 5

£5 bet, won->7/41=6=47 won-12=35

28/6 = 5

£5 bet, won->6/35=6=41 won-12=29/30=1+12={13}Profit
23/6= 5

£5 bet, lost->5/30=5=35 lost

28/6= 5

£5 bet, won->5/35=6=41 won-12=1+13={14} P
23/6= 5

£5 bet, won->6/30=5=35 won-10=25/30=5+14={19} P

18/6= 5

£5 bet, lost->6/30=5=35 lost

23/6= 5

£5 bet, lost->6/35=6=41 lost

28/6= 5

£5 bet, lost->7/41=6=47 lost

33/6

£5 bet, won->7/47=7=54 won-14=40

28/6

£5 bet, won->6/40=7=47 won-14=33

23/6

£5 bet, won->5/33=7=40 won-14=26/30=4+19={23} P

18/6

£5 bet, won->6/30=5=35 won-10=25/30=5+23={28} P

13/6

£5 bet, lost->6/30=5=35 lost

18/6

£5 bet, won->6/35=6=41 won-12=29/30=1+28={29} P

13/6

£5 bet, won->6/30=5=35 won-10=25/30=5+29={34} P

8/6

£5 bet, won->6/30=5=35 won-10=25/30=5+34={39} P

3/6

Bet £5, won->6/30=5=35 won-10=25/30=5+39={44} P


Win £32 IN 28 SPINS 

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Hey CD

Maybe using both in as so much that you put the Divisor up 1 on every 2 losses & bring it down 1 on a win until it gets back to the 6 and keep it there.

I have a friend that does that with a 4 Point Divisor Mate.

I am just trying to help mate..That's all.


Your Friend .

Lanky

[ChickenDinner]

Hey Lanky,

Thanks mate, letting "the Divisor slide up One on 2 losses in a row & come down One on a win" works great for me [smiley=thumbsup.gif]. I ran another test and gained an easy 31 units in 34 spins.

Now, what I'm thinking with this thing, though, is that if I'm gonna use a combination of your Divisor and Victor's 50% MM plan, when my main BR increases and I then start increasing the basic unit, I'm gonna be limited with the 10 unit max on the ECs. Therefore, I think betting on single lines (30 max) is best way to exploit this for long-term profits as I build my bank.

So I need to find the most efficient system for selecting a single line to bet on. Whether this will involve me waiting for a line to sleep for 18 spins, or betting the hottest line after 18 spins, I'm not too sure...I'm gonna have to do some testing to decide. I'll put a new post up to seeing if anyone's got a good line selection method.

Thanks again Lanky and thanks TTT.

CD

[ChickenDinner]

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