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I developed a system that is a very PROFITABLE winner in 50 sessions(1 session can end in 10 spins or in 100 for example)

winning target = 20 chips
loss stop          =50 chips

Resaults in 50 sessions showed : 46 WINNERS - 4 LOSERS(Something REALLY ODD HAPPENED and it lost!)
So +920 chips   and   -200 chips  = Total Profit = +720 chips

The +20 winning target on average happens in  35 spins.

I will not expose the system....I just need a man that I can trust to test togeather with me and IF it will continue being so PROFITABLE and so SAFE then I will see what I will do.....
I will chat with my trusted tester and we will aggree if we will just use it for our own or if we will sell it too.

THE ONLY PERSON THAT I TRUST IS JACKKALDRAI(yes he doesn t like me...so when he will post the resaults it will be safe that he will tell the truth!.....
He is a man that can be trusted and he is also a man with nice heart and he is also suffering all these years to find a winning method.....so he is the best choise

JAKKAL PM me and I will give u my MSN to eplain u the system.
thanx.

lol. Hey JC.

NP. I will have a look at it for you.

Jakkalsdraai@live.com is my MSN. Add me.

Cheers
Jakk

I just added u in msn....
Get online

Quote from: Jean-Claud on July 27, 2010, 08:53:26 AM
...I will chat with my trusted tester and we will aggree if we will just use it for our own or if we will sell it too...

:o ;D :lol: ;D :o

stay tuned Bombus
U are teh 1st on my selling list! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Ok, guys JC and myself could not come to an arrangement to test. I guess I am just not the right guy. I refuse to first test with him telling me what to bet.

I assumed the arrangement to be according to previous post that he would explain the system to me and I would test it.

Sorry guys but I'm finished being dragged along whether it is good or not.

JC. If you want to show me the system and let me test it. Fine I will do so confidentially and post my findings right here. But again....no more red tape ..... for me anyway.

Cheers
Jakk

JC, why don't you let Number Six test it, he doesn't like you either.  ;D

Jakkal didn t seem to understand what I was telling him...
he was at his work...and he wasn t concentrate to underatdn the instractions...also he didn t had enough time...
so i told him to just test it with me telling him where and how much to bet(because he told me that he had RX there...after a wile he refused that he had the RX there...l;ol)

I had full intetntions to explain him the system...but when he would be homme!.

anyway..2 more sessions won.  in 65 spins was + 49..bigest down was -25 chips.

PPL this system is SIRIOUS! I am starting getting scared! :sarcastic:

It s NOT patterns and Gamblers fallacy BS...its pure maths+probability in the safer way as it could be!

in the last 5 sessions I made 122 chips(because sometimes u need to be +20 to finish the session but u just win more because of the very mild progression) and the bigest down was -34 chips....

so with a BR of 34 chips we would have made in the casino +122 chips! who does that? ???

Watch your heart JC,you shouldn't get excited.
Give it to NO6--he is desparately looking for a winning bet.
Maybe you 2 become a partners. :haha: :sarcastic:

Wowee! Thanks for the recommendation Iboba, but I'm not interested.

I'm just coming out of an embarrassing ordeal with an emotional gambling addict, who is now suffering from a crushed ego and has it in for me - just because it turns out his system isn't as good as he claimed. Jeez, infants, eh?

So Jean Claude,

Why not just let this beast loose on all of us to test...surely that makes more sense no?

After all, this is SERIOUS!

BW

In Vls noone would test anything!
even if something would be the HG

Post your system here, and somebody will test it. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon, and for the rest of your life...

I agree with Buffalowizard.

Total sessions 100.(about 4.500 spins)

resaults : 91 W  and  9 L .

+1820      - 450  =Total Profit + 1370

Tomorow is a new age for me...the new age of profecional Roulette player.

I never belived that a math based system would ever win more than it is losing!

Keep searching...don t bother with patters and CWBs and falacies like Martignale......

In order to make money from this game U must think of pure Maths and Possibilities.

Bye

JC,

Could you tell us a little more about your bet selection? 'Maths and possibilities' is a little too vague.

Many thanks

BW

G'day,

Quote from: Jean-Claud on July 27, 2010, 04:26:13 PM
I never belived that a math based system would ever win more than it is losing!

Keep searching...don t bother with patters and CWBs and fallacies like Martingale......

In order to make money from this game U must think of pure Maths and Possibilities.

I have posted that my unfailing system is based on maths & makes sense,
though again funnily enough you STILL want to make statements about what won't work.

I would say this COULD all be bull & you're just having a bit of 'fun'!!

Glenn.

Quote from: MiniBaccarat on July 27, 2010, 05:13:55 PM
G'day,

I have posted that my unfailing system is based on maths & makes sense,
though again funnily enough you STILL want to make statements about what won't work.

I would say this COULD all be bull & you're just having a bit of 'fun'!!

Glenn.

Wouldn't be the first time mate

To find a genuine winning method, you really need to understand where the edge comes from. Without an understanding, you would need to "fluke" it and the chances are very remote.

I know nothing about this system, but I do know already there are already tangible and practical methods to beat roulette - not perfect - but good enough. Most people ignore them though, in pursuit of something easier.

Steve I know perfect level VB and I have also 3 Rcs!
Where are the Conditions to play with?????

anyway Steve u know what I am talking about!


PPL

Winning with Maths requaires a LOT of things togeather
Winning target
Stop loss
Probability
Maths
Money Management
Smart and Mild and Safe Progression

and sometimes the Human Brain to go out of the Mechanical part of the system
I mean in the progession part of the system
because the betting positions are remaining same
because u aren t a magician

it is really very easy
but u need to have some expirience in Roulette

When to bet and when  not to  bet that is the question.  ( tweaked from William Shakespeare   HAMLET 3/1.) :thumbsup:

Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

When to BET,why to bet and How much to bet...this is teh Pro question

why waste time here go and make your fortune.  play it yourself.

QuoteSteve I know perfect level VB and I have also 3 Rcs!. Where are the Conditions to play with?

Yes you have a few of forester's computers, which all use the same kind of simplistic algorithm. Well I dont know where the required conditions are for that. I dont know where the ball distance doesnt vary over time. I dont know where the ball doesnt bounce differently for different rotor speeds. VB, for a skilled player, is more versatile than forester's computers, but dont expect to do well if you make the same assumptions as forester.

Quotewhy waste time here go and make your fortune.  play it yourself.

Cant he do both? I do.

The Truth is that VB is better than Foresters RCs...lol
But even if ur RC is the best of all in teh planet.....
nolinks://vlsroulette.com/visual-ballistics/why-noone-can-win-with-vb-nowdays/msg116417/?topicseen#msg116417 (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/visual-ballistics/why-noone-can-win-with-vb-nowdays/msg116417/?topicseen#msg116417)

QuoteThe Truth is that VB is better than Foresters RCs...lol
But even if ur RC is the best of all in teh planet.....

I know VB for an experienced player is better than forester's devices.

But you have three of the same damn computer and think every computer from different developers is the same. Mighty big assumption. There is nothing a VB player can do that a well designed roulette computer cant do better - simple as that. If you think otherwise, who's loss?

If you think you can beat roulette with mathematics, you are back to square one. But if I'm wrong, it's my loss.

Let's get the record straight. Let's also tell exactly what happened on MSN. Yes. I was at work. Yes I was busy. NO.....it's not true that I didn't understand the instructions simply because there was no instructions. Did he ask me if I had RX, yes he did. And yes I did say I did have RX but I also said I did not have it on the office PC, only on my home PC.

Did he ask me to do a session with him, yes he did. Why didn't I? Simply because I'm done with days sitting for hours on MSN supplying numbers while the other chap marvels in his success or have every excuse inthe World why it's not working now. That is part of the red tape I was referring too. I specifically told him at the time when he wanted to do a session together that I now do have the time and that he could just show me the system and I will go and test it.

Afterall what was said in his post was just that. He said that I must go on MSN and he will give me the system instructions and I must test and post results. Well I did go onto MSN......and that's where it stopped.

Again. If you want to give me the instructions I will test it and give my results to this thread. I'm not going to be dragged around though and waste time. Your call.

I will not reply at Jakk s   post simply because he didn t had the things I needed in order to explain my system to him.He belive that the only way is Kimo Li stuff...and I can t blame him...if he saw somekind of advantage there then fine by me.

Steve U said that going back into maths is a step back.
Before finding this system I would  agree 100% with u....because I was a fanatic beliver that maths will never make money from this game.


Just run 50-100 spins with RX...any spins!
And look the overal hits in every section...do u see that the Rule of probability makes everything almost equal?
Now find a way to be + even if the Wins are less then the losses.
Simple as that.
There will be times that the Rule will have the exeption(that confirms the Rule)But how many times will this happen?
Well in my sessions tests it happened 9 in 100 sessions

 ::) I'm done arguing.

An average example

(//)

Hi Jakk, how have you been? :)

the last email exchange we had, have you read it?  email me, cheers :)

Quote from: Jakkalsdraai on July 28, 2010, 04:42:30 AM
::) I'm done arguing.

Hey mate,

I have read it but not sure about his matrices.

It is similar to Nuke quad matrices I feel. Or should I rather say same principal. Not sure though. Could you confirm the matrices in a mail to me please. I would appreciate it.

Cheers
Jakk

Sirious Question!

I know that a lot of members are playing in Online Casinos!

My question is:
Has anyone played in the Celtic Casino?
Do they PAY?
Does anyone seen anything like cheating?

I am thinking to deposit money there to start playing my system.

thanx.

Quote from: Jean-Claud on July 28, 2010, 05:50:01 AM
Sirious Question!

I know that a lot of members are playing in Online Casinos!


I am thinking to deposit money there to start playing my system.

So JC, so far you have a holy grail of a system.....

kudos to you  :good:

So now you wish to play @ an online casino ??

1) They will have a record of EVERY spin you play

2) the table limits as a rule are WAY lower than a Bricks & Mortar casinos.....

3) You win win n win again, eventually they will ban you !!!!

4) They will then ban ANYBODY playing the same way, just in case you were going to sell it.......

5) the connection will amazingly dis-connect when you progression gets higher n higher

6) Your "confirmed" bets will not be confirmed etc etc etc.......

You need to be a pro AWAY from the table as much as @ the table  ;)

hi Jakk, I have no idea about his matrix combinations, but it has gave me some ideas.

take a look at this thread if you are free. cheers

nolinks://vlsroulette.com/kimo-li-shares/some-lucky%28maybe%29-hits-using-kimo%27s-teachings-information/ (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/kimo-li-shares/some-lucky%28maybe%29-hits-using-kimo%27s-teachings-information/)

Quote from: Jakkalsdraai on July 28, 2010, 05:40:20 AM
Hey mate,

I have read it but not sure about his matrices.

It is similar to Nuke quad matrices I feel. Or should I rather say same principal. Not sure though. Could you confirm the matrices in a mail to me please. I would appreciate it.

Cheers
Jakk

Thank you very much for the advices xman :)

1) They will have a record of EVERY spin you play
I don t care because it isn t a mechanical system...u bet according to the conditions

2) the table limits as a rule are WAY lower than a Bricks & Mortar casinos.....
I don t care because the progression is VERY MILD! In all the 101 sessions I never had to bet more than 10 chips in a place....the average was 5-6.

3) You win win n win again, eventually they will ban you !!!!
I don t care because everytime that I will win X amount I will make withdrow

4) They will then ban ANYBODY playing the same way, just in case you were going to sell it.......
Even If I would sell it nobody can understand what u are doing because it isn t mecanical

5) the connection will amazingly dis-connect when you progression gets higher n higher
s**t!@!@ Do they do these things!? :o

6) Your "confirmed" bets will not be confirmed etc etc etc.......
s**t!@!@ Do they do these things!? :o

You need to be a pro AWAY from the table as much as @ the table  
And this is why I have never played in an Online casino!

But these days I have a health problem and I must NOT move a lot....it will take 10 days more...
so I thought that it would be an intresting thing to do....and If I will lose who cares...I will just deposit little money because I don t trust these Casinos too....

Quote from: Jean-Claud on July 28, 2010, 06:44:08 AM
Thank you very much for the advices xman :)

No Problem, I'm not saying I'm right, just common sense in my book.....

1) They will have a record of EVERY spin you play
I don t care because it isn t a mechanical system...u bet according to the conditions

Doesn't mean they cannot work out how you play

2) the table limits as a rule are WAY lower than a Bricks & Mortar casinos.....
I don t care because the progression is VERY MILD! In all the 101 sessions I never had to bet more than 10 chips in a place....the average was 5-6.

I meant you could win MORE @ a B&M casino that's all, nothing to do with the progression

3) You win win n win again, eventually they will ban you !!!!
I don t care because everytime that I will win X amount I will make withdrow

Maybe that will just get you banned quicker..... I don't know..... :-[

4) They will then ban ANYBODY playing the same way, just in case you were going to sell it.......
Even If I would sell it nobody can understand what u are doing because it isn t mecanical

No problem there then  ;)

5) the connection will amazingly dis-connect when you progression gets higher n higher
s**t!@!@ Do they do these things!? :o

I would suggest they would do ALL they can to stop you taking THEIR money !!!

6) Your "confirmed" bets will not be confirmed etc etc etc.......
s**t!@!@ Do they do these things!? :o

I would suggest they would do ALL they can to stop you taking THEIR money !!!

You need to be a pro AWAY from the table as much as @ the table  
And this is why I have never played in an Online casino!

But these days I have a health problem and I must NOT move a lot....it will take 10 days more...
so I thought that it would be an intresting thing to do....and If I will lose who cares...I will just deposit little money because I don t trust these Casinos too....

It would be v ironic IF you did have something that worked but couldn't travel to make your money  :-\

IF you are hell bent on using an online casino @ least check out the options / reviews here :-

nolinks.casinocity.com (nolinks://nolinks.casinocity.com)

Thanks again for the nice infos.
I will be able to travel as much as i want after 10 days. :D

Quote from: Jean-Claud on July 28, 2010, 07:50:52 AM
Thanks again for the nice infos.
I will be able to travel as much as I want after 10 days. :D

No Problem, sorry I mis read what you said regarding travel  :-[

Well that gives you 10 days to test from old spielbank numbers on RX  :good:

I will give a shot today in Celtic Casino.
I will deposit ONLY 50 chips(requaired BR)...it will be 1 euro/chip because as U said we don t trust these Casinos.
It will be more to pass my time wile I am in homme...and If they don t cheat it will also be more testing for the system.

I will be going for +20 chips per session...or -50.

i will take snapshots of the Br.

Thank you.

Quote from: Jean-Claud on July 28, 2010, 08:05:57 AM
I will give a shot today in Celtic Casino.

Boy JC I show you the website then you don't use the information......... :rtfm:

Celtic Casino is based in Costa Rica

& anybody here will tell you, IF they are based there it's HIGHLY likely you will have problems......

I'm done here......

good luck you are going to need it....... 8)

I will just have some fun....
Ok and what is the best Online casino that U advice me with 1 euro min bets on ECs?

The page that u gave me can t open because the Antivitous Blocks it!Irt has Trojan

Quote from: Jean-Claud on July 28, 2010, 08:45:07 AM

Ok and what is the best Online casino that U advice me with 1 euro min bets on ECs?

I couldn't the last time I played online was @ the old Spielbank "live" wheel. Then Germany banned online gambling  :angry2:

You have the internet n therefore the world @ your fingertips do some research......

IF it was me ?

test with old Spielbank numbers on RX for another 10 days then find a B&M casino  ;)

& that IS me done with this thread

good luck  :good:

JEEZ PPL.
If you haven't learn anything by now about this JC guy,
then either you have short memory or you are same as he is.
What a circus. :sarcastic: :haha: :haha:

Ok...
we will see....
I have deposited 50 chips in LB Casino.

I will post resaults of the sessions.

(//)

Any takers--recieving bets-that it will be same old story;
THERE IS NOT A HG-GIVE UP-YOU CAN NOT BEAT RANDOMNESS

Ok end of the 1st session.
Every session will be +20 as I told ya.(this 1 is +19 because I have to shit now now ;D)
+19 in 32 spins.
I played VERYYYYY safe and this is why it is only +19....if I would play agressively i would be by now +40!
But I can t do this now...i have small Br(50 chips as I posted) ,when the Br will be higher i will play some sessions more aggressivelly.

Oh! Till now everything In LB Casino was wonderfull! No interaptions in Conection,No not accepted bets.
I will play 1 more session preety soon...maybe tonight.
Thank u

(//)

Just an observation - I'm not accusing you of being fraudulent.   :-\

Why is it that the text "Cash 50. 00 Total Bet 0. 00" appears to be in bold text in your first screen shot (and every screen shot from "LoungePlayer" in a different thread), but your second isn't?

Have you been a naughty little boy in Photoshop?

I really don t know how to use the photoshop
and I also can not undesratnd ur observation.

I recall that ladbrokes casino do not provide any fun account.
If you do not bet for 10 sessions, then the system will warn you and kick you out if you do not place any bet at next time.
But I am quite enjoy about ladbrokes, slow wheel speed and slow ball speed and little ball bounce.
Wheel speed varies around 5-9, mostly 5+.

yes but we can t take advantage of it...because the say NMB without us to hurry make predictions

Ok I played a little more(30 spins) and I expirienced a little bad sequence and from 69 chips I went 74 and then down to 54 in a stage and now i am back with 72 chips(total).
The system is working sharply! everything obeys to the maths.....

The only thing is that in order to play more aggresivelly (so faster and more profit) U need to have a BR of 100 chips.

But thats ok...I like the safe way too....
This kind of play is EXACTLY like Chess...or any other strategy game....U must know where,when and how much to bet....

Lets hope that tommorow in my next sessions all will be ok too.

So Today:I played around 1 hour total and I made 22 chips. Biggest - inside session was  20 chips...preety safe.

CU tomorriow..

Oh I have to tell u something really strainge!
When i was playing the dealer said :"its time now to hit the 26"  and 26 hit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How can this be?????
I got a little scared with this insident and I have some doubts about the Casino...but time will tell.

Viper, if you are selling your method, you scammer! Nah kidding. Anyway this thread will soon be moved to the "stuff for sale" section. Good luck with beating the universe.

Yes  Viper, Jordan ,  JC..........
Every month appear with  one *HG* . First says that roulette can be beaten ,
but then appear again with  a new *HG*.      :haha:
Goooooooooo.....Viper   you'll never change. 
Hope some day you will find  your way.     :lol:

If there is a way...this is it!
I am not selling anything!
I am just testing with all of you my system....
it passed 101 RX sessions...now I am just watching what will happen beyond that.

Quote from: Jean-Claud on July 29, 2010, 04:33:20 AM
...I am just testing with all of you my system....

Oh Yeh?

What system is that?...I ain't seen no system for testing here... all I've seen is someone yankin' their own chain... again.

just shut up and watch the resaults of the sessions.
If I will make + and + and + it is a good system....if I will lose it will just be an other loser as all the systems.

If someone thinks that I am manipulating the screen shots then he is free not to watch the posts.

WHAT IS THE POINT OF THIS,YOU HAVE THE GRAIL GO GET RICH !

Quote from: WARRIOR on July 29, 2010, 10:26:28 AM
WHAT IS THE POINT OF THIS,YOU HAVE THE GRAIL GO GET RICH !

First, JC never said have HG but just said found one way with mathematics and strategy efficient seems look HG
now he is testing with us and share results. wait and see :) of course i will be happy have one try too but...

Thank God! there is one man here that have a sence and brains!

....if I will lose it will just be an other loser as all the systems.


[/quote]
Wasn't I right.

Kean-Claud ,

How  far  is the   nearest B & M casino from  where you live ?

N.D.

medo
No u weren t right...what did i posted opposite?I have posted that I need further testing
N.D
about 40 km.
it isn t far....when I didn t had the health problem(I told u I ll be fine again in about 1 week) I was going preety soon to play VB
its the 1st time I am playing in an online casino...I never liked them...it is just to test the system further and to pass the time wile I am in bed

That`s not too far to the next casino. My nearest casino is  about 160 km ( 97 minutes) from my home  base  and the  other a cluster of about  11 casinos  443 km   ( 4 hrs 45 min  incl. 2 stops ).

Hoping you will  get well soon. :ok:

Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

Thank u my friend :give_rose: :)

Read 1173  times.....ATENTION ATENTION!!! I developed a system that............
Where is the system?  To much Atention Atention  for Nothing .   
Why people  read this .....?     :o

Ok I have good news!

The balance now is 85 chips.Slow but steady.
I played 23 spins and gained +13 chips...bigest down inside session was -2 chips.

I just didn t had any more oportunities to bet and I will play 1 more session later .

(//)


Oh! An other strainge thing happened tinight!
The dealer said I will hit 32 and she hitted 32!!!!
Do u think that they are highly trained in Ds... :lol: well I don t!

Quote from: balint on July 29, 2010, 05:41:02 PM
Read 1173  times.....ATENTION ATENTION!!! I developed a system that............
Where is the system?  To much Atention Atention  for Nothing .   
Why people  read this .....?     :o

:agree: :agree: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Ok...finished todays session. :)

the balance is 92 chips. I just played 4 spins and I ganed +7 chips biggest down 0 chips. ;)

So as I told you 2 days +40 chips...2 sessions of +20 and +20.

I have a bigger Br now and I will play a little more aggressive in the next sessions.
I am just trying to end everysession in +...even if it will be small.

My goal is to make the BR 150 chips(3Xsystem s BR and then I will continue playing with 2 euro chips)

Till now LB Casino seems reliable...the only strainge things was these 2 spins that the dealer predicted the exact number

(//)

Viper on 28th July:

"stay tuned Bombus
U are teh 1st on my selling list!"

Viper on 29th July

"I am not selling anything!"



Viper: Quote me on this. If you think you have a method that beats the mathematics of roulette, you are wrong. What you would have is a method that does reasonable well in the short term. There are countless such systems. If I am wrong, I would gladly eat my words and make a public apology.

Unfortunately while you think you have a good knowledge of roulette, my experience with you is you actually don't.

If you really have the holy grail, then that's great. But we see it every week - someone thinks they have the HG, then find the reality soon after. You do not appear to understand what makes roulette beatable, and what methods are guaranteed failure (gamblers fallacy).

Anyway I'm moving the thread, as you very clearly are selling something - from your own words.

Steve posted

"""Viper on 28th July:

"stay tuned Bombus
U are teh 1st on my selling list!"

Viper on 29th July

"I am not selling anything!"



Viper: Quote me on this. If you think you have a method that beats the mathematics of roulette, you are wrong. What you would have is a method that does reasonable well in the short term. There are countless such systems. If I am wrong, I would gladly eat my words and make a public apology.

Unfortunately while you think you have a good knowledge of roulette, my experience with you is you actually don't.

If you really have the holy grail, then that's great. But we see it every week - someone thinks they have the HG, then find the reality soon after. You do not appear to understand what makes roulette beatable, and what methods are guaranteed failure (gamblers fallacy).

Anyway I'm moving the thread, as you very clearly are selling something - from your own words"""

What I said to Bombus was a TEASING ,because he is the most nagative person in here and he thinks that he knows EVERYTHING.,...I agree that he knows a lot about Roulette,but he doesn t know EVERTHING.
   I Do NOT have intention to sell ANYTHING!
I am just playing a system that I developed and seems very REASONABLE and Very SAFE and VERY PROFITABLE!
  I tested it in 101 sessions in RX and now I am testing it in an online Casino and posting the resaults here to you all to see that I am not bull sitting. :D It is fun for me...it is also a way to pass my time wile I am homme and it is also a way to give hope to the ppl that need to win with MATHS and not with AP....so IF I will win all the time then this is great hope to the others.

Now for the thing u told that I really don t know what are the methods that really beats Roulette.
My friend Steve I am involved in Roulette 4 years now!
From the 1st day that I met this gama I am thinking,searching.testing ,learning 24/7!!!!!!!!!
 I have played math systems(from other system makers...but I have NEVER bough a math system) in my VERY early stage in Roulette....I lost like everybody...but I never lost a lot of money because:
a)I never had a lot of money to lose
b)I never got addicted to gambling
c)I never played money that I needed

So after 1.5 year of making math systems I quit it!Because I thought very clear and said:
"If Einstain said that Roulette can t be beaten,and if this game stands 400 years in Casinos then it can t be beaten!"

So I turned in AP.
For 1 year I gathered everything about VB....I learn EVERYTHING in theory....Then I did it in action....spin DVDS and then Real Casinos.
In the DVDs I was having about 40% advantage ,and it is natural because
a)I have VERY good understaning of VB and very good skills(I can identily a ball rev better than an RC..well at least  from FF and UR 1st RC that u are testing in a 3 pin game wheel)
b)Because the DVDS are made for having the perfect conditions.

But when I tested in real casino I found out that there are NO such conditions in nowdays!
And even when I found a veryyyyy little Tilted wheel that was hitting 4 of 10 in the same deflector(after searching about 60 wheels) I found out that the scatter of the ball was CREAZY! because teh ball was very light!
  So the conclusion like Forester say is that "winning in todays wheels is very hard!"
So I found out that VB is only for video spins!
It was a great expirience though! I learned how to make a prediction be knowing how to calculate 2 deferent things that are moving oposite and to add a dictance ....It really made me wiser,it really made me to extend my phisics knowlwdje!

 But the main hunger for making money from Roulette was still in me....
I have noticed something in the probability of roulette(every expirienced player know about it) But I couldn t find the way of how to trap it...how to take advantage of it without to much RISK when the RULE sometimes will have th exeption......
AND NOW I THINK I FOUND IT!
AT LEAST MY SESSIONS THIS IS WHAT ARE TELLING.

I know that it sounds unreal to U!!!!
I told u in an other post that IF haven t descovered how to take advantage of this I would have teh same attitude like U!
And the proof is that I was always a negative person IN ALL the topics that were including maths systems.....

The main deference is that U can use maths with a lot of ways
The others have just not found the right one.

Maby I am winning by luck,maybe I am winning because of the maths indeed....
ONLY the testing will tell....
Till now the testing in exactly as i was calculated to be and a little better.

I made this video for the PPL that don t belive that the testing is genuine and thinks that I am manipulating with photoshop...
Someone can manipulate a picture but can t manipulate a video.

In the video I am also betting 2 chips and then I am ubetting them right away to see that the balance is moving.

sorry I didn t know how to rotate it :D so just move ur head to the left :sarcastic:



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I wouldn t scam to u...because this is the last hope(with this system ) to make money from roulette...so if I would scam to u...I would also scam my self!

I am just curious like u to see how much it will go!!!

Quote from: Jean-Claud on July 30, 2010, 06:48:26 AM
...What I said to Bombus was a TEASING ,because he is the most nagative person in here and he thinks that he knows EVERYTHING...    

I'm not sure how to respond to a statement like that. Perhaps this video is appropriate...  Oh my, it's the viper version of course!


Trololo Without Autotune (nolinks://nolinks.youtube.com/watch?v=TNm6l4FwABE#)

HAhahaha! great video Bombus

Ok as I promised I am a man of honor and I will tell u the truth.
I lost.in 78 spins
2 reasons is why I lost.

1)I am so idiot that I didn t trust my own system and I went out of it in a lot of spins  >:(because my system told me to bet THIS and because I had won a lot with THIS I told "I must change now because how many times will THIS win again....and in the next 6 spins the THIS won  5 times and my f*****g bets was NOT on THIS!!! (I would have recovered and made the +20)>:(
My system is not based in the Gambling falacy but I felt into the GF because I went out of my system!!!!so I must train my self to it....It was a great lesson....losing only 50 euros was nothing...but if this would happen in the real casino with 250 euros BR I would be sad.

2)There is a MAYBE that the casino cheat at me.....
In 6 spin the only numbers that I would lose my all bets(and I was betting heavy at this stages) was 4,6, and 10 and in the 6 spins these exact numebrs came! ;D

As u saw I wouldn t LIE to u! ;)

I will not abandon this way of playing because even if they DIDN T cheat me...if I would FOLOW the exact RULES of the system strategy I wouldn t lost my money....I wouldn t win +20 easy!

The f*****g maths and probability is always there!!!!!

Ok I find it silly not to explain my way of playing...if someone wants to explain I will....

My opinion is that the ppl that though that I would lie or sell something must have respeact at me because as they saw I didn t abandon the topic saying that OOOO I won again and again!!! ok bye I will go be a millioner :lol:

QuoteOk I find it silly not to explain my way of playing...if someone wants to explain I will....

Go on then mate, I've been reading with interest, let's see what you have

My friend I am making the post right now...It will be in the Full systems topic...I am just making my constribution in the ppl that want to make money.....

For a hundred posts you screamed at us that nobody can beat roulette, its impossible. So which is the real Jean-Claud, that one, or the new one that beats roulette every day?

JC is the person that study roulette closely and he is developing everithing.
watch my posts..u may learn something....

Ps.I never claimed that I am winning in Roulette everyday...I haven t even started to play my new strategy in the Real Casinos.
The only thing that I have done is testing it in a lot of sessions.

Try to test it on 500 000 spins.Then you can say that you can beat roulette.

btw. My friend is a programer and every method that i am testing is testing on 10 000 000 random spins.I have only one system that beat this 10 000 000 spins.But i am not using it. And why ? Because max drawdown was -1500 chips and it end with profit cca 4000 chips. It`s small effect.I cannot find modifiy for this system how to make higher profit :( It is flat betting method and it is posted in this forum.I think there is a way how to beat roulette.But i didnt discovered this way yet.I am still trying and i hope that i can do it .I have enough time to do it because i am student and only 18 years old.You may think whatever you want but i am not lying you.

btw. sorry for my english

regards bene

Do u like it?
Then u test it.

Quote from: Jean-Claud on July 30, 2010, 05:04:00 PM
Do u like it?
Then u test it.

I wouldnt try it now.I am testing something else nowadays.But I will give it a try later.

I just made a contribution man.
everyone that likes the idea can test it and play it...if someone doesn t  like it he can just ignore it.

Viper, regarding your maths method, do you actually know the precise principle that is giving you your edge? If you cannot define it, then how can anyone use it?

ps - what happened with forester and securityman? They arent very nice to you anymore. Were you banned again?

Steve Hourmouzis response to rubbish at nolinks.genuinewinnerroulettesystem.com (nolinks://nolinks.genuinewinnerroulettesystem.com)

There are a lot of lies about him

I asked to be removed from there because I can t listen anymore that Simple algorithms are better than VB.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D