AlfaStreet automatic roulette insight

[alan]

Hi Macedonian! in my city I have automated wheel of "Grand Jeu" and "Elaut". Do you know anything about them? Any tips maybe? Anyway, great posts from you! Many thanks....

[J8]

Thats the whole point...You observe those 20 spins...not play...You begin to count after ball release...
you count the average of the rotation so when you play you could have
an average parameter to apply to your future predictions...
The more spins you observe the more accurate your predictions will be...
If you like when you have the time choose one automated roulette from an online site and
well talk through skype,
I make predictions you watch so I can explain to you how it works....

I know the mathematics & physics of roulette, & thought of your suggestion before, yet I didn't have the nerve to apply the estimation & scatter variables in 3-4 seconds. I will try this today or tomorrow, also I'll test my theory on exclusion zones.

[macedonianroulette1]

Hi Macedonian! in my city I have automated wheel of "Grand Jeu" and "Elaut". Do you know anything about them? Any tips maybe? Anyway, great posts from you! Many thanks....

Grand Jeu is good because the scatter is very low...I mean when the ball lands in some area stays there most of the time....
They have jackpots too and i have won tha jack pot once and the wheel starts coming up and the plaiyng terminals start to blink lol...
Tip for this roulette:
The software on this roulette often show patterns of the predetermined bets(5/8 series,zero spiel.orphans)
Try this : when you have three numbers of one bet lets say 5/8 series you have :33,16,11(which is very common)
Now bet the zero spiel once,then come back to the 5/8 series....It will hit you once or twice again,pick up the win and run home...

[mcmonaco]

Sorry for the double post, could it be possible that the computer chooses the pocket in the interval before the 3 seconds prior to ball release?

-It is predeterm.and don't be confused....it doesn't work against playes/s
and professionals don't lose on it.Problem is there are only few around.

[alan]

Grand Jeu is good because the scatter is very low...I mean when the ball lands in some area stays there most of the time....
They have jackpots too and I have won tha jack pot once and the wheel starts coming up and the plaiyng terminals start to blink lol...
Tip for this roulette:
The software on this roulette often show patterns of the predetermined bets(5/8 series,zero spiel.orphans)
Try this : when you have three numbers of one bet lets say 5/8 series you have :33,16,11(which is very common)
Now bet the zero spiel once,then come back to the 5/8 series....It will hit you once or twice again,pick up the win and run home...

Thanks for your tips! Really appreciate that. But I don't know what means 5/8 series. Can you explain please? And what do you think should I try to practice VB on Grand Jeu that you explained in your post #25? Coz I always thought that imposssible to play VB there because of changing speed of rotor during same spin. But as I can uderstand you can manage that problem?

[J8]

-It is predeterm.and don't be confused....it doesn't work against playes/s
and professionals don't lose on it.Problem is there are only few around.

Ok so what is your advice? Macedonian says the spin outcome is governed by a computer, & my experience seems to confirm that, although what he suggests is hard. Today I won a little with my own mathematical configuration. How do you play such machines?

Vlad

[J8]

This is an older version, & I doubt the local alfa which is latest model is not the same:
BANKOMAT MENU for Manual Del Usuario Alfa Street RK8

"The main control computer controls the stations and the roulette wheel. The operatorcommunicates with the main computer using small numeric keyboard, B&W CRTcontrol monitor and the main power switch box, located in the corner beside the playstation 1. Depending on the Alfastreet Roulette 8K version, the monitor of the playstation 1 is used as a control monitor. The operator select the function of the monitorusing the control switch located above the main switch. " Macedonian was right, but probably only in part; the use of magnets break predictions...i think.

[macedonianroulette1]

There are no magnets....These machines go through inspections by the gaming comitee in every country in the world....
Now make sure that the casino youre playing is a LEGAL casino...
Outcomes are reached by the vent that is blowing air and the wheel...
Now look at this video...It's not cheating it just that the roulette is taking the ball back where its predetermined to land...
nolinks://nolinks.youtube.com/watch?v=O44yaKCU7Pk#

[I have cookies]

The computer has already chosen what pocket to land the ball in when the spin starts,you only need to predict in what area it will land...
If there are 3 secs to bet,you can play by the predetermined bets,small series,zero spiel etc....
So let me help you a bit....
Now do this...Choose ONE machine to play...
Here's what you need to look for...
Lets start small....
Observe 20 spins
In those 20 spins you note this:

1.How many rotations the ball makes in average until it lands...
   Example: 1st spin - 8 rotations,2nd spin- 11 rotations..etc... and make a average out of it...Most alfa streets average is 9,5 rotations....

2.Wheel rotation speed: Choose a spot and count how many seconds it takes for the zero to make a full rotation
  Also make average of 20 spins

3.Look on which diamond the ball hits the most before it lands....(I suppose you know what diamonds are)

4.Make an average of scatter....
  Example : The ball falls close to the zero and lands in number 14...Thats about 12-13 pockets scatter....
  Make average the same way as the rotations and wheel speed(it doesn't have to be much accurate)

5.(If possible) Which part(position) of the spin does the ball start to decelerate (slow down and start falling towards the pockets)

6.Look for patterns in outcomes...
Example: Ball falls over the zero,lands in 27....Wait for another spin where the ball is released over the zero and note the outcome...
If the bet arches overlap then we got ourselves a pattern(will explain later)

If you get those parameters right,predictions can be made with 1 out of 4 accuracy minimum

Nice - i would like to chat - can you PM me your skype name.
I play regular wheels - but would love to learn more about how you deal with automated wheels.

Cheers

[macedonianroulette1]

Oposed to every one think live wheels are harder to beat...
That is because there is a human factor which isnt consistent or generates patterns...
I will make a video very soon to show improved methods of beating automated wheels...

[I have cookies]

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The computer has already chosen what pocket to land the ball in when the spin starts,you only need to predict in what area it will land...
If there are 3 secs to bet,you can play by the predetermined bets,small series,zero spiel etc....
So let me help you a bit....
Now do this...Choose ONE machine to play...
Here's what you need to look for...
Lets start small....
Observe 20 spins
In those 20 spins you note this:

1.How many rotations the ball makes in average until it lands...
   Example: 1st spin - 8 rotations,2nd spin- 11 rotations..etc... and make a average out of it...Most alfa streets average is 9,5 rotations....

2.Wheel rotation speed: Choose a spot and count how many seconds it takes for the zero to make a full rotation
  Also make average of 20 spins

3.Look on which diamond the ball hits the most before it lands....(I suppose you know what diamonds are)

4.Make an average of scatter....
  Example : The ball falls close to the zero and lands in number 14...Thats about 12-13 pockets scatter....
  Make average the same way as the rotations and wheel speed(it doesn't have to be much accurate)

5.(If possible) Which part(position) of the spin does the ball start to decelerate (slow down and start falling towards the pockets)

6.Look for patterns in outcomes...
Example: Ball falls over the zero,lands in 27....Wait for another spin where the ball is released over the zero and note the outcome...
If the bet arches overlap then we got ourselves a pattern(will explain later)

If you get those parameters right,predictions can be made with 1 out of 4 accuracy minimum

Well I like to read what you write - it is a very interesting topic.

When collecting spins (laps/turnarounds) from release to end using main focus pin to get average of one particular spin - then what hit ratio do we deal with - what is the average.
Lets assume we categorize them into three groups of spins.
Sloppy, medium, hard.
Then sloppy would be around 8 9 10 11 12 13
Then medium would be around 14 15 16 17 18 19
Then hard would be around 20 21 22 23 24 25 26

So how does it work with automated wheels?
Are there only medium and hard to categorize?
Lets assume 18 is the average spin - then what hit ratio would it have?

I assume all different kinds of air ball machines has programed "air blow" wish spin the ball with different force.
I even seen charts and images of tiny motors that put the ball with slight less or stronger force during spin - manipulate the spin - they are located inside the upper side ball track.
Also read that rotor change during spin.

That has to be the counter measuring methods casino use with automated wheels.
So I don't see how it helps taking the average lap/turnarounds.

Now how do you deal with drop zone as there are non existing 1 pin game conditions with today's wheels - regular or automated wheels.
If you argue there is then what kind of hit ratio would 1 pin have out of 10 20 30 trails?

Cheers

[I have cookies]

The computer has already chosen what pocket to land the ball in when the spin starts,you only need to predict in what area it will land...
If there are 3 secs to bet,you can play by the predetermined bets,small series,zero spiel etc....
So let me help you a bit....
Now do this...Choose ONE machine to play...
Here's what you need to look for...
Lets start small....
Observe 20 spins
In those 20 spins you note this:

1.How many rotations the ball makes in average until it lands...
   Example: 1st spin - 8 rotations,2nd spin- 11 rotations..etc... and make a average out of it...Most alfa streets average is 9,5 rotations....

2.Wheel rotation speed: Choose a spot and count how many seconds it takes for the zero to make a full rotation
  Also make average of 20 spins

3.Look on which diamond the ball hits the most before it lands....(I suppose you know what diamonds are)

4.Make an average of scatter....
  Example : The ball falls close to the zero and lands in number 14...Thats about 12-13 pockets scatter....
  Make average the same way as the rotations and wheel speed(it doesn't have to be much accurate)

5.(If possible) Which part(position) of the spin does the ball start to decelerate (slow down and start falling towards the pockets)

6.Look for patterns in outcomes...
Example: Ball falls over the zero,lands in 27....Wait for another spin where the ball is released over the zero and note the outcome...
If the bet arches overlap then we got ourselves a pattern(will explain later)

If you get those parameters right,predictions can be made with 1 out of 4 accuracy minimum

I cant see how this "average spin" and "average rotor" and "average tilt" would make you know where the high probability area is - where the ball will end up.

[Steve]

I cant see how this "average spin" and "average rotor" and "average tilt" would make you know where the high probability area is - where the ball will end up.

I havent read all of this thread but the most incredibly small difference between one wheel of the same design and another can give an enormous difference in ball outcomes, scatter etc. Every wheel is unique, although you can still get similar scatter patterns on many wheels. But using one analysis for another wheel for actual predictions can almost never be done.

[I have cookies]

I havent read all of this thread but the most incredibly small difference between one wheel of the same design and another can give an enormous difference in ball outcomes, scatter etc. Every wheel is unique, although you can still get similar scatter patterns on many wheels. But using one analysis for another wheel for actual predictions can almost never be done.

Steve - wheel mapping would be much better then the solution he is offering.
I cant see how some one can pin point out the high probability area using average.
It sound like beginners who try to develop a wheel signature with out real physical parameters involved.
I cant see hes methods being valid.

[macedonianroulette1]

Steve - wheel mapping would be much better then the solution he is offering.
I cant see how some one can pin point out the high probability area using average.
It sound like beginners who try to develop a wheel signature with out real physical parameters involved.
I cant see hes methods being valid.

Look i have been dissed like this before....I've posted tons of videos on many forums about the success of my analysis and techique...
I have a dozen videos on this forum alone....It was several monts ago when i was proving to some hothead and i don't plan
to do it again...
I had partners-players from this forum to whom i made a lot of money...I have proof of that too...
So if you have techiques/systems on how to beat automated roulette i will be glad to read it...
But pls dont tell me that mine don't work...
And offcourse every wheel is different and in every wheel i have different priorities towards the parameters... 
Parameters mentioned above are the only thing i need to have decent predictions...
And yes,i don't win every time,but in weekly or monthly perspective i am in profit almost always and i make a decent monthly wage...
Its up to you to believe me or not...But once again i dont have to prove anything to anyone...
I saw the thread where J8 asked me to help him with alfa street and thats all...

[macedonianroulette1]

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