Herb's (Snowman) Testing of my computer

[Steve]

The agreement was you get 12.25% commission on all sales - dont go modifying it. Deep down, I know you and ken have sincere love for each other, way way, deep down. Somewhere.

[Herb6]

I need the casino info.

Also, our agreememnt as that I would be a more powerful moderator than Mr. J.  

[Steve]

ps Herb, the casino name should not be specified at least until its all over. It's actually not my preferred online casino, and bago knows that, but he wanted to make it as difficult as possible. I have enough experience with the casino though to know it wont be a problem. Also there are things I wont mention at this stage.

I'll send you login details once the account and funds are all good to go as per the PM

[Herb6]

Ok. 

By the way, thanks for the new power too.

[Steve]

Herb I sent you account name. I'll begin asap but depending on my available time, sometimes I may go a few days or even a week or so without actually playing. If it was a casino of my choice, it would be a lot quicker and easier but I let bago have his way so he cant say I chose an easy casino.

[Steve]

Also i need your shipping address

[Davey-Jones]

Update?

[Steve]

Nothing has changed yet.

[Jakkalsdraai]

ps Herb, the casino name should not be specified at least until its all over. It's actually not my preferred online casino, and bago knows that, but he wanted to make it as difficult as possible. I have enough experience with the casino though to know it wont be a problem. Also there are things I wont mention at this stage.

I'll send you login details once the account and funds are all good to go as per the PM

Must be Mick Dundee's casino way Outback! 

[Steve]

Do you think he would want to make it easy? Well either way, the casino he selected isnt hard to beat - just more time consuming. I'll have to resume about 20th september, but herb knows the account name, and the transaction history isnt going anywhere.

[Steve]

Update:

Online casino challenge: I'm not far off completion for the online casino challenge. That's where bago gives me the casino name, and I increase the bankroll by 5x or so (could be 6x I have to check).

Bago heard I'm almost done, so he flipped out and started sending me hate emails. He claims I lost the challenge because I didnt complete within a month of commencing play. I did give a month as an approximation, but it was never a term which he knows - he's just looking for an excuse to redeem himself after losing the webcam challenge. Anyway whether 1000 or so spins is done in one part or in multiple parts, when the end bankroll is the same, its the same proof of effectiveness as we all know. Keep in mind herb knows the account name. He will have access to all transaction logs to prove the increased bankroll is due to winnings. Now to complete the challenge, I need only find time for a few consecutive days of play. This is what I told the poor guy:

I understand you're looking for a way out. You've done it every time when the truth slapped you.

One month was an approximation of actual play period, not a condition. In between I went on holidays and now to finish it I need only find the time for roughly a week or so of solid play. Like it or not you are not a priority - it is a game and you are the joke. 1000 spins all at once or in two 500 spin parts with the same results is equal proof of effectiveness, don't you agree? Of course you do. But it's not about truth - it never was. It was personal for you. Thats why you edited audio, thats why you refused to verify my assets and claimed I had a network of lying friends even at real estate offices, that's why you refused to see via webcam my computer and ffa hooked together and the list goes on.. you have avoided truth at every point. I could show you things about my life that would make you cry, but if you refuse the simplest things making excuses like about the real estate agents, certainly you'll pussy out and make excuses for anything else, and besides you are nobody - I would do it only to make fun of you although at times I do feel it is cruel, and at others justified because you're just a little t**d. But then I remember you are just a stupid kid, and waste of time.

Your attacks started out because you sincerely were just stupid and didnt know better. Now you know the truth, but it doesn't matter. You said yourself you'd never apologize, and that is a huge character flaw, but you have many to the point where I dont know how you're not in hospital. You just want petty revenge because you made yourself look like an idiot, many times. Or perhaps you really dont know, and I wouldnt put it past you because you really do appear to be very stupid - I mean literal mental illness, and many people have commented on your page and wording on forums thinking there really is something wrong with you. You and mark howe are incredibly alike. Of all people I've ever known, you have fallen on your face the most, I mean its phenomenal. You find it easier to blame me rather than yourself. I could go on and on about how stupid and f****d up you really are, but you are just a pathetic waste of time. Whether or not you finally accept that you are wasting your own life and directing your own failures on me, I dont care its not my wasted life.

Anyway not a neutral person would consider your excuse valid. Like I said, 1000 spins all at once or in two 500 spin parts with the same results is equal proof of effectiveness. Someone without integrity and who is a dishonest person like you would always be looking for an excuse.

If everyone say the kind of stuff bago wrotes, it doesn't take long to see there really is something wrong with him. He's beyond immature. He is sick, like the line he finishes his emails with is like that of a kid "Bago, your owner, your king, your master forever." But you really need to read the full range of what the idiot comes out with to understand what he's like, and why nobody likes him.



Herb's testing of my roulette computer: I'm still waiting to get herb's shipping information. I've been waiting for a while and so far he's unresponsive to my direct requests.




Bago is really spitting the dummy in his emails to me. It appears forester is somewhat shitting himself too, unable to NOT twist everything around to suit his demented perception. I dont have time to address everything it said, but here's the bulk of it to illustrate the differences between the perception of someone with extreme prejudice and an incredibly ignorant pigheadedness, and reality:


* Bago found the page at nolinks://nolinks.genuinewinner.com/spins.html which is one of 4 methods players use to send me spins. He claims it is proof that my system relies on dealer signature. Bago doesn't know about segregation, and that taking all possible variables into account, you increase accuracy. Do I teach dealer signature? Hell yes. It is valid, but by no means is it all I teach (see nolinks.genuinewinner.com/gw.zip). Only recently, forester discovered that he could incorporate dealer signature into vb for maximum accuracy... that's a combination of pattern types, which I call a custom variant. Hmm I thought "custom variants" were voodoo, according to him. And also recently, securityman at forester's site discovered you can combine bias analysis with vb for increased advantage... hmmm, more combination of patterns. This to me is basic stuff, and only now they realize the potential.

* Forester and bago seem to think nolinks://nolinks.genuinewinner.com/spins.html has something to do with bias analysis. Thick isnt the word. The form is a generic form used for various kinds of analysis. It is not intended for bias analysis because bias analysis requires more spins, and different data - for that, players use a different method of sending me spins. And I'm afraid forester doesn't know bias analysis like he thinks he does - what he quotes is straight out of Laurence Scott's books.

* My reference to 333,666,999 spins has nothing to do with the "devil" as clowns on a witch hunt would have you believe. It is that some of the analysis I do involves permutations divisible by 3. If you had 332 spins, it only means fewer permutations for analysis. A permutation is like combination, and they are used to determine how variables affect other variables and ultimately spin outcomes. For people only just learning about segregation of data and combination of pattern types, when they criticized me for doing it, they wouldnt have the vaguest idea.

* My earliest reviews of forester's devices and material specifically stated I did not have his computer. So the review basically ended stating this, and that if anyone had further information to let me know. Whether or not I owned RSR at that stage I dont recall - it was years ago. But I did write the review. I eventually was sent one of forester's computers for free, and saw what rubbish it was, but I didnt care so I didnt bother to update the review. About a year later, forester just went on and on about how he king and stefano scammer, so I finally decided to update the review to reflect the new information I had about his rubbish. That's partly why he's so pissed off at me. Sure he says the review is dishonest, but the fact it is very closely reflects the review from Michael Barnett - this is the same case for FFA's review.

* Forester and bago know nothing about my vb methods. There are countless vb techniques and what I teach a player depends on the conditions they encounter.

* If a player can collect 300 spins per dealer, that's great, but it's not realistic. What poor bago doesn't understand is that the pattern types of any given wheel will be consistent. The actual patterns do vary over time. If you bother to incorporate dealers as a variable in your analysis, to adjust for a completely new dealer, you need only monitor around 10-20 spins. You can even get away with 5 or so spins, but there are countless variables so it's not always possible. What I teach players depends on the conditions they encounter, and always is it done on a 1 to 1 basis mainly via skype/phone.

* Part of what makes my methods special is the modeling of the relationship between the variables, other variables, and spin outcomes. To do that properly, you need software I provide. Bago doesn't have a clue about this. He only recently learned about segregation, and his fellow morons only recently learned about combining pattern types. On the note of forester's forum, it looks more like a forum for people that have been banned elsewhere - or the league of "Steve haters". Some are just idiots that actually believe forester's and bago's rants without finding out for themselves. Anyway one day, they might learn about the dynamic nature of roulette, and how it is possible to model the relationship between the variables, other variables, and spin outcomes. At forester's site, everything they discuss is summed up in Laurence's books which is unfortunately old news. I respect Laurence but as I'm sure he himself would recognize, the material is rarely viable for modern casino conditions.


About my scope of business beyond roulette:

* Mr Stalker (forester) and his kiddy sidekick Bago found another of my sites. On it I give brief information about some of what I do. They find it really hard to believe, poor things. Like one time at bandcamp, I told forester I developed an automated roulette computer that took timings from cameras. He laughed at me in disbelief. So I published the video... then he shut up.

Anyway my business scope is extremely diverse. It's hard to grasp for idiots like forester who builds a 2 second device and calls it "the best", and hard to grasp for a young french kid who's sole occupation is attacking others that make him look like a fool, and masturbation.

Some of what I do and have done beyond roulette is explained below:

*Portable heart rate monitors. These are devices that are an accessory to mobile phones. The phone runs java software, and the data is relayed to the phone via sensors. Not amazing technology, or even secretive at that. What makes it different is the GSM networks can be used to contact doctors or emergency services if heart activity is irregular. The entire project cost about $5000 from start to finish, and I've been selling the equipment for a while online. I wont release the websites because the next day clowns will be calling that a scam too.

* Lifter anti-gravity technology. See nolinks://jnaudin.free.fr/lifters/main.htm
Forester's take on my claims that I work on this kind of technology is that I claim to own spacecrafts. Well he's just an idiot. The lifter anti-gravity craft is the most widely replicated anti-gravity device. To build one, you need about 30,000v power source (such as from an old computer monitor), some aluminum foil, balsa wood, and copper wire. It'll cost you about $100 for everything you need. Years ago, to the best of my knowledge I was the first to create a "stacked lifter". Then later a group in china made a huge one which did far better than mine. I've been actively involved in energy research for a long time - most people know me as the guy who bought the original Rover vehicle which researcher Alex Shiffer converted to run on "free energy" - a photo of the vehicle is on my site. At this stage, I have been unable to fully replicate what Alex did - I only achieved a partial conversion which means running the vehicle on my power cell for a few minutes before it conked out.

* I work with a group of investors and divers in sydney to claim and search sunken vessels at sea. Whoopie doo. Is it a big deal? Forester's take on this is that I claim to cruise the Caribbean in my billion dollar yacht looking for sunken treasure... because he's an idiot and doesn't know any better. There are MANY groups that do this. I never never been on an actual expedition, and probably never will. At this stage my involvement is getting investors. The profits are quite good, and most income comes from sale of recovered items via ebay. I dont handle the sales or anything - again, just referring investors to the group in sydney.

* Hell yes winning $30k in a week playing roulette is possible. Some of my players have achieved this numerous times. It is not a regular week after week thing though. They may play one week a month and get only $5000. Then a month later, win $30,000 in a week. Anyone who is familiar with what goes on in casinos would know this is not at all uncommon. Who hasnt seen someone lose or win $5000 in one spin?

* Hell yes under my direction technicians (contractors) have designed an electronic kidney as substitute for dialysis. Because forester doesn't see outside his own world, he thinks I claim to have developed something that nasa couldnt. I didnt design it - a technician did. And unlike how forester's head interprets things, the artificial kidney is ultimately a fancy pump. It does NOT cycle blood like a normal dialysis machine. It uses the process called Peritoneal Dialysis (see nolinks://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peritoneal_dialysis). This kind of blood cleansing is not new. Such a patient basically has the fluid with toxins filtered via other natural processes of the body. The waste then comes out of the patient, and into a little baggy which must be emptied regularly. What the artificial kidney does it pump the fluid into the patient's bladder, so they dont need to do it all manually. It is not remarkable or complex technology - it is simple. This is an old project though and what we learned was passed to another company developing the same kind of thing.

* Hell yes I sell roulette wheels and gaming equipment. I did market to casinos for a while, but couldnt possibly compete with direct distributors so now only to private sector. Mostly I purchase second hand wheels and have them refurbished so the ball rolls like new. This gives near new wheel performance, for half the price of a new wheel.

* Forester wants to know why I dont use my new velstone wheel in video demos. Well, bago saw it during the webcam demo.. I used that wheel because the difference in timing between one revolution and the next is about 90ms, whereas on a secondhand wheel it is about 200ms. The difference this makes is enormous, because for a computer to predict accurately, it has a much smaller time window to determine between one revolution and the next. At present, it sits in the back of my car ready for demos - it weighs a tonne so I dont bother moving it to and from the house. Sure I could do videos with it, but mostly I cant be bothered. Sales is not my focus.

* Forester said "There was a time when Stevo claimed how he is always surrounded with armed body guards to protect him his ideas and his money. Also to protect him from Mark Howe. "... what a load of shit. I never said that - clowns tend to take things out of context to suit their demented reality. All I said was that at some of my demos, I have a security guard. Whoopie. If you want to verify that, speak to the conference center staff at the "airport motel and convention center" near melbourne airport. That is an old venue I used for demos, but dont anymore because it's just too far for me to travel. As for mark howe, at one stage yes he was a concern, because he's f****d up and desperate. Now I know he cant even afford a plane ticket - perhaps at most $200 to rent a hummer for a fraudulent video.

* I took forester to court for stalking. I was not afraid of the idiot and made that clear. My application was to prevent him from doing what he did, including:

- driving by my property and taking a photo, then sending it to bago for publishing

- publishing my driver license photo which was sent to him by casino consultant Mike Barnett, who had access to the Griffin database which is used to track professional players.

- publishing private addresses

Although the application was dismissed, the judge made clear what he had done was consistent with the definition of stalking. What he said is at nolinks.roulettewars.com/io.wma

Ultimately the judge said while his behavior was unacceptable, it was not serious enough to hit him with criminal charges.

I did not bring a lawyer with me because:

a. I didnt want to pay one cent to explain what a pathetic moron was doing

b. It wouldnt have made any difference because the case was very simple

The peculiar thing is after the first hearing, we both agreed to keep things civil. And things were. Then Ronjo released his findings. Forester lost it, started attacking Ronjo, and then he unbanned Bago from RP so he could continue to attack me. Forester also broke another agreement I wont go into. Why? Because he's a sore loser acting like a kid. Too bad if the truth exposed him for what he was.

* Lucky_strike, you say I dont know jack shit about custom variants. Listen mate, the term "custom variant" was created by me. And as for bias analysis, rarely do my players use this because there are much better - quicker and more effective ways, to beat roulette.


So my friends over at RP, chow on that for a while. And while it doesn't change anything for you because you are just dickheads attacking me for your own personal reasons, and will continue to do so no matter what, at least everyone else can get another taste for what you really are.

[Herb7]

10-12-10

Steve,

I still don't have the password or the account number.   As I recall, you were going to get back to me with that information before the challenge started.


Please contact me with the info at xxxxxxxxxxxxx so that we can begin the challenge that you were going to do

Thanks,

Herb

[Steve]

Herb I sent it to you numerous times, how could you not receive it? I'll send it again, then please confirm you have the account name. I've reinstated your herb6 account - please no more stuffing around like before.

Once you confirm the account name, which will not change, you can check the balance from today onwards. So basically if the account balance was $100 today, that's the starting amount.

You do not need the password yet. You need only the account name. If you go logging in with a different ip, you raise security flags. The account history is not going anywhere, and I have no way to modify it. Buit perhaps bago might say i bribed the casino staff because that's the kind of idiot he is. He even said I bribe people at the real estate office when I insisted he verify a few things.

As for the roulette computer, I need to know your shipping address.

[Steve]

Ok email sent as below - a few things blanked out:

    * The account name is "XXXXXXXXXXXXXX" - please keep this to yourself. And please confirm on the forum that you know the account name. From then, you can consider the start and end bankroll, and any transactions in between. Remember you'll be able to see the entire bankroll and bet history. Whether I do it in 1000 or 500 spins, 1 week or 10 weeks should not be an issue. The primary condition is the stated increase in bankroll (5 or 6x - one or the other, I'll need to check to see what the agreement was with bago).

    * Please do NOT specify on any of the forums or to anyone the name of the casino. Only you, me and bago should know at this stage or at any time.

    * Please send me your shipping address for the roulette computer. XXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXX. I'm not interested in you testing every little feature - just the diamond testing. I'll most likely be sending you a minimal build that has only the required features. If I wanted to show every little thing it can do, I would have done it already. My only interest is exposing lies. XXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX.

[Herb6]

The account name is xxxxxx - please keep this to yourself. And please confirm on the forum that you know the account name. From then, you can consider the start and end bankroll, and any transactions in between. Remember you'll be able to see the entire bankroll and bet history. Whether I do it in 1000 or 500 spins, 1 week or 10 weeks should not be an issue. The primary condition is the stated increase in bankroll (5 or 6x - one or the other, I'll need to check to see what the agreement was with bago).

Steve,



How will I know that you actually won the money and that you didn't just add money to your account.  Don't I need a password to track the true account history?

[Herb6]

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