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Started by gizmotron, May 12, 2009, 12:24:27 PM

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Number Six


bali96

Gizmo,

Reading through your posts it appears that you are somewhat experienced with regards to roulette? Infact I would go as far as to say you would have us all believe you are 'some kind of God' is this true?  ???

May I be so bold as to politely ask, instead of merely making fun of us 'mere mortals' you actually
contribute something helpful; after all that is the whole purpose of this forum 'to help each other' is it not?  ;)

gizmotron


Number Six

Quote from: Gizmotron
Did you eat a pile of steaming dog-doo yet?

:girl_wacko:

I had to go into the pit to dig it up but here it is:

OmP+yYPTBfv0nfGY10wZWjXosafDUrD/+A/6Xm01Geh+77+OYEEgYRISfwz91SnF21qjASg8QeMJ0myM
XCJVmMGTMWmECOTm5HBrOXHgRbR27/U889QIQZ83ZrIDg2i3+y9VespVQNEXw5Vonsj3ulbxuWzN56f5

Jakkalsdraai

Ok Gizmo..... Where in hell did I in any sense seem to insult you to receive a reply like that?

"I disagree with your opinion, perception, and your lack of knowledge altogether. It has lead directly to you displaying your gambling prowess as amateurish at best."

Yes I am a amateur roulette player.......what are you professional?

"gravity, inertia, velocity, acceleration, and time to say the least. All of these random factors add up to almost perfect randomness." Says who? It is especially those factors that does have an constant effect and does not make it random. As far as i know gravity is a constant not true? So is inertia.....Speed and accelleration....well if VB guys can recognise them as a constant in certain environments, then that also is pretty much constant. Now we get to the deflectors. How many wheels we see one dominant deflector....many! So alot of wheels have a dominant dropzone. So is it random then? Hell no. Not if a person can predict where it will fall via balistics. Try RNG, that is random. Try predicting that.

Anyhow. I'm disappointed in your somewhat defensive reply. What i put down in my post was really to find out more of your ways and your believes, not in any way to attack you. You seem to think just that, or you see yourself as high and mighty and you are just an asshole. I don't know which of the two it is. Anyhow no bother then. I will keep to myyself and to other threads. All the best and sorry for interfering in your ....... thread.

Cheers
Jakk

gizmotron

Quote from: bali96 on May 18, 2009, 11:01:14 AM
Gizmo,

Reading through your posts it appears that you are somewhat experienced with regards to roulette? Infact I would go as far as to say you would have us all believe you are 'some kind of God' is this true?  ???

May I be so bold as to politely ask, instead of merely making fun of us 'mere mortals' you actually
contribute something helpful; after all that is the whole purpose of this forum 'to help each other' is it not?  ;)

I've handed you the holy grail. You see it as a t**d.

Let's see, I've spent 40 years discovering Roulette. That includes making my own mechanical random generator and teaching myself computer programing. In all that time I learned that all rule based systems fail to produce a worthwhile and acceptable result. If I encounter others along the way, that are decades behind me, and have not made an effort to discover the truth by actually working it out, then  I'm not going to encourage them to settle for half baked systems that can't work. No, I'm not the god of roulette. You are just the lackey of roulette. It's all adds up to your position in the grand scheme of things. Your feelings as a student should not dictate your learning capacity. You never train mountain climbers by being nice to them. It always leads to people dieing. I would have to say that gambling is economically perilous. The worst thing you can do to a new gambler is to encourage them to get killed at the casino. Practice practice practice, that's what matters.

gizmotron

Quote from: Number Six on May 18, 2009, 11:13:55 AM
:girl_wacko:

I had to go into the pit to dig it up but here it is:

OmP+yYPTBfv0nfGY10wZWjXosafDUrD/+A/6Xm01Geh+77+OYEEgYRISfwz91SnF21qjASg8QeMJ0myM
XCJVmMGTMWmECOTm5HBrOXHgRbR27/U889QIQZ83ZrIDg2i3+y9VespVQNEXw5Vonsj3ulbxuWzN56f5


Number -six, you are off topic. You are a disrupter.

gizmotron

Quote from: Jakkalsdraai on May 18, 2009, 11:24:57 AM
Ok Gizmo..... Where in hell did I in any sense seem to insult you to receive a reply like that?

"I disagree with your opinion, perception, and your lack of knowledge altogether. It has lead directly to you displaying your gambling prowess as amateurish at best."

Yes I am a amateur roulette player.......what are you professional?

"gravity, inertia, velocity, acceleration, and time to say the least. All of these random factors add up to almost perfect randomness." Says who? It is especially those factors that does have an constant effect and does not make it random. As far as I know gravity is a constant not true? So is inertia.....Speed and accelleration....well if VB guys can recognise them as a constant in certain environments, then that also is pretty much constant. Now we get to the deflectors. How many wheels we see one dominant deflector....many! So alot of wheels have a dominant dropzone. So is it random then? Hell no. Not if a person can predict where it will fall via balistics. Try RNG, that is random. Try predicting that.

Anyhow. I'm disappointed in your somewhat defensive reply. What I put down in my post was really to find out more of your ways and your believes, not in any way to attack you. You seem to think just that, or you see yourself as high and mighty and you are just an asshole. I don't know which of the two it is. Anyhow no bother then. I will keep to myyself and to other threads. All the best and sorry for interfering in your ....... thread.

Cheers
Jakk


OK, you are a disrupter too. You want to hijack this topic. The topic is randomness, not physics.

gizmotron

There will never be an end to those that think that reading randomness is about using predictors or having control because of something that is claimed to be a prediction. It's like a mental block that acts like a blinder to those individuals. I don't have the ability to reach these sorry individuals. They can go jump in a lake. Soon I'll have the ability to erase these nay saying disrupter's that only want to talk VB and DS. Nothing works on them. They only come here to expect answers to their pet interests. Get a section (life.)

Answer this: What's the difference between randomness and bias? Can you prove that bias is the only thing happening when temporary randomness produces bias type results? Can you see when a real bias and randomness couples together to produce a super bias? Can you see when randomness counter balances an existing bias to negate its effect? The person that does not study randomness does not have the full picture.

Shorty

Okay I'll get the thread "rolling". What would the first step be if I wanted to learn to read randomness? Is there a process that can aid someone learn these skills?

casinopitbull

have  anyone  there think  about  randomness like a  huge advantage ??? how  many  time  u  was  seen  this  1  36  3 15 10 15??  now can u  tell  me  which  number  come   next ?? offcourse  not  but  when  see before  outcome with  many repeaters  pattern  where  will  be   next  your bet ???DONT  TAKE ME  WRONG BUT  EVEN  RANDOMNESS  HAS  A  NICE  PATTERN )))

bali96

I've handed you the holy grail. You see it as a t**d?!!!  :scratch_ones_head:

About as much use as a chocolate teapot, more interested in your own self importance more like... We are not worthy...we are not worthy!  :pleasantry:

gizmotron

Quote from: bali96 on May 18, 2009, 11:48:21 AM
I've handed you the holy grail. You see it as a t**d?!!!  :scratch_ones_head:

About as much use as a chocolate teapot, more interested in your own self importance more like... We are not worthy...we are not worthy!  :pleasantry:

This is how much I care about you. You have only illustrated one of the detracting features of discussing a topic. Thank you for illustrating your own diminished capacity of self awareness too. Projecting your anger on me is adolescent at best. I'm here talking about randomness because people dismiss it. I'm more fascinated that the holy grail goes undiscovered by those that never fail to beg for it in the first place. It's the ultimate joke. Every word you say is another joke. The best part is that you will use anything but randomness when you go into a casino. That's so funny I can't stop laughing. BTW, you are also afraid to be wrong. You obviously find it as a weakness in me. I know I'm right about reading randomness. I have yet to see a working mechanical, rule based system. If you ever see one then go on the TV talk show circuit. You need to win a Nobel prize for that.

bali96


gizmotron

Quote from: Shorty on May 18, 2009, 11:40:15 AM
Okay I'll get the thread "rolling". What would the first step be if I wanted to learn to read randomness? Is there a process that can aid someone learn these skills?

Yes, use a chart to see past spins. Use at least six different full groupings. R-B, O-E, L-H, d1-d2-d3, c1-c2-c3. Do it in a way so you can see what is currently happening.

Learn what the nature of series for singles and doubles teaches you for each of these groupings. While looking at many ways to base your observations of the characteristics you should always keep track of a base line that follows distribution statistics. There exists a normal base line for each group. You can then use that to see dominances. They don't have to be symmetrical in order to be useful.

If you don't understand that then spend months learning binomial distribution, series, and probability. Learn how it applies to a short session of 100 spins and a longer session of 300 spins. 1,000,000 spins are irrelevant other than giving you a base line.

That's step one.

gizmotron

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