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Started by husky, March 08, 2010, 03:56:53 PM

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Danger Man

Quote from: husky
Yes, yes. I'm listening for this all the time. You're just so boring that I'd rather watch the fresh painted wall as it dries, then read to this kind of statements.

I don't know how much you test your systems, maybe few life-times before you can say it's worth to play, for your grandsons. I lived through this one for 2 years, months of paper work, few months of play like this, pics made here on the topic of my play, 2 total sessions, in a row, both doubled, now this 577 spin test, bank doubled for these 2 4-number patterns....

I'm so confident in this, that I said in advance that I'll do this test, and post the results no matter what they will be, and I'm doing it right now.

If anybody else plans to say any more pesimistic or discrediting bullshit, rather skip this topic and go to martingale or similar "promissing system" section and enjoy yourself in pointless tests for years, and for milions of spins.

You don't really know a great deal do you? You're a typical seller. Ask a simple question that requires a simple answer and instead you get evasions and hostilities. What would you rather I did? Pat you on the back and give you a medal?

husky

Yes, that's just it. Program this:

GOTO martingale

Point is, I can take all questions, discusions, help, feedback, experiences.... but I just can't stand philosophers like you, savage and cheese on this topic. I don't need stupid advices just the constructive ones. Starting of your statement: "Such a small sample" is looking so shallow that the rest of your post is not needed to read - because you didn't read this topic from the start. But I took a part of my time to read it, which you didn't.

If it was the point of selling, I'd have a selling page: nolinks.small-sample-system-that-brings-fortune.com, but I don't. I'm on a forum. Being friendly, writing for weeks freeeeee, and I have to listen to morons, instead a mathematicians, or people that play Dublinbet, or the people who understand that the roulette can't be won by statistics and maths, becaus it would be beaten a century ago, but with concentrating on one wheel, one casino, one little thing that can give us an advantage of play.

I have it. I also know I have it. My wallet knows I have it. But I just don't know why in the heaven's sake am I writing here at all. I once gave up because that low minded cheese guy, but came back. I'll do this test, and I think it's not small test, it's just the thing you all want everything served here, just to go to casino and win 4 life with a free complete all time winning system.

I spent too much time and money getting to it, and I'm not selling a system, just wanting to refund that in case that somebody else believes in it too, and to get a bank for decent play, with which I can progress faster. Those who don't believe that the spins on DB table 1 are not completely random:

GOTO martingale.

husky

Pattern 3 done. It's a dissaster. Not for a bankroll, but that these 4 numbers had been under-thrown statisticaly. Significantly less hits than the numbers in pattern 1 and 2. Truth is, there's no overlap, so if something hits, something sleeps.

First big sleep of this pattern 25 times. Followed by the largest - 48 spins without all 4 of them. Again, not long after the lagrest up-going line.... A random thing or moderated? Hm.... Later happened 38 spin sleep, 35 sleep.... True is, that this is a small sample, so I believe that soon it would happen an up-going line. A good thing is - loss is 7 times smaller than the profit on each of 1 and 2 pattern.

Let's see the ending bankroll after the first loss:

356 (1) + 376 (2) - 52 (3) = 680 units profit if we played only these 3 patterns for 577 spins. More than 1 unit per spin profit.

husky

Pattern 4 was doing good with the numpber spun, the biggest sleep lasted for 29 spins, second for 28 spins. But these 4 numbers were everywhere, anywhere but together. This pattern was on my black list when I'd go from 15 to 10 or less patterns played, but this is an awful result. Not typical and this kind of throw doesn't give riight to say that it's not usual. It is. This is what the bankroll would look like when random numbers would be played. I expect more of the next one. Let's see.

Till now:

356 (1) + 376 (2) - 52 (3) - 264 (4) = 416 units profit.

husky

Pattern 5, what to say, glad to have it. Very profitable one. But this much.... wow. Profit 3 times greater then pattern 4's loss.

Still no overlap with numbers in these 4-number packs, and the situation looks like this:

356 (1) + 376 (2) - 52 (3) - 264 (4) + 704 (5) = 1120 units profit with these 5 played.

husky

Pattern 6 got a great push up, but if not, it qould be around a starting bankroll or a little loss. But these kind of hits I'm on to. It isn't a suprise. I'm sure that a similar thing would of happen to the pattern 4. We didn't wait enough for it, but I'll never play and depend on 1 pack of numbers.

356 (1) + 376 (2) - 52 (3) - 264 (4) + 704 (5) + 190 (6) = 1310 units profit with these 6 4-number patterns played.

As you can see, a miracle has to happen for me to have the overall bankroll in a loss on a random sewuence, like this random test with 577 numbers spun. And my point is - with any quantity of spins. It's just the matter of time. We will see the rest of them.... tomorrow. I can't look any more, awake from 07:00 till 00:30. Need this 6,5 h sleep. This can wait.

Danger Man

Quote from: husky
Yes, that's just it. Program this:

GOTO martingale

Point is, I can take all questions, discusions, help, feedback, experiences.... but I just can't stand philosophers like you, savage and cheese on this topic. I don't need stupid advices just the constructive ones. Starting of your statement: "Such a small sample" is looking so shallow that the rest of your post is not needed to read - because you didn't read this topic from the start. But I took a part of my time to read it, which you didn't.

If it was the point of selling, I'd have a selling page: nolinks.small-sample-system-that-brings-fortune.com, but I don't. I'm on a forum. Being friendly, writing for weeks freeeeee, and I have to listen to morons, instead a mathematicians, or people that play Dublinbet, or the people who understand that the roulette can't be won by statistics and maths, becaus it would be beaten a century ago, but with concentrating on one wheel, one casino, one little thing that can give us an advantage of play.

I have it. I also know I have it. My wallet knows I have it. But I just don't know why in the heaven's sake am I writing here at all. I once gave up because that low minded cheese guy, but came back. I'll do this test, and I think it's not small test, it's just the thing you all want everything served here, just to go to casino and win 4 life with a free complete all time winning system.

I spent too much time and money getting to it, and I'm not selling a system, just wanting to refund that in case that somebody else believes in it too, and to get a bank for decent play, with which I can progress faster. Those who don't believe that the spins on DB table 1 are not completely random:

GOTO martingale.

All I'm saying is a test of 500 spins isn't an adequate sample. How can you say the wheel is not random when you haven't got enough data and anything you've found so far might be within the realms of natural variance? I suggest you stop being so emotional and hypersensitive. Contrary to what most people believe, it isn't "naysayers" who cause problems around here it's the other side. Constructive advice to you is simply anything you'd like to hear.

Noble Savage

Quote from: husky on March 25, 2010, 10:17:20 AM
Good news, stopped by @ home, 189 spins and counting.

Bad news.

- Danger Man is right about the sample size.

- Your explanation of your method (deliberately I suspect) makes no sense.

- There is nothing out of the realm of randomness in your DB data (including signs of wheel defect). Apparently you know nothing about wheel bias and this thread shouldn't be in this section (probably the system selling section instead?).

- You are basically talking to yourself since no one understands how you're playing.

husky

Quote from: Danger Man on March 25, 2010, 09:42:47 PM
All I'm saying is a test of 500 spins isn't an adequate sample. How can you say the wheel is not random when you haven't got enough data and anything you've found so far might be within the realms of natural variance? I suggest you stop being so emotional and hypersensitive. Contrary to what most people believe, it isn't "naysayers" who cause problems around here it's the other side. Constructive advice to you is simply anything you'd like to hear.

Ok. No problem. Than be constructive and go collecting a sample. A 1000 spins? 10 000? 100 000? 1 000 000? I just wonder how you'll do it.... You obviuosly don't understand that it's quite hard to collect such an unstopping session on DB, even with Tiago's software. Go try it. Any amount you collect, without even 1 number missing, I'll bet you that my system will win.

Start collecting numbers or stop claiming that I'm not testing it enough. My hours spent in play are not here. But, the important thing that I'm not choosing a good period for my play and put it here, I did live play, without knowing the result in advance, and no loss.

husky

Quote from: Noble Savage on March 25, 2010, 11:04:10 PM
Bad news.

- Danger Man is right about the sample size.

- Your explanation of your method (deliberately I suspect) makes no sense.

- There is nothing out of the realm of randomness in your DB data (including signs of wheel defect). Apparently you know nothing about wheel bias and this thread shouldn't be in this section (probably the system selling section instead?).

- You are basically talking to yourself since no one understands how you're playing.

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

husky

14 patterns to go. I'll do at least half tonight.

I'm just sad that here in public I get only bad messages, and the good ones and questions go over the mail, or pm. It's a shame for the topic, and that's the reason I speak here with myself. I'll do the full test, pack my things and go. I should have done it before, when I first locked the topic....

Danger Man

Quote from: husky
Ok. No problem. Than be constructive and go collecting a sample. A 1000 spins? 10 000? 100 000? 1 000 000? I just wonder how you'll do it.... You obviuosly don't understand that it's quite hard to collect such an unstopping session on DB, even with Tiago's software. Go try it. Any amount you collect, without even 1 number missing, I'll bet you that my system will win.

Start collecting numbers or stop claiming that I'm not testing it enough. My hours spent in play are not here. But, the important thing that I'm not choosing a good period for my play and put it here, I did live play, without knowing the result in advance, and no loss.

Actually I do understand that it is difficult to record a large sample of numbers from a live wheel when the play is so slow, even using an automated tool. I should think you'd need several thousand numbers to make a preliminary analysis. A chi-square test is useful for detecting bias since the casino industry has a standard, which is in the region of 55. The whole problem with bias is the amount of labour you have to put into analysing the wheel in question and at the end of it you're more than likely to find out the wheel is not even defective, or at some point gets pulled and recalibrated. The issue I have is that you were talking of selling this technique without it being tested properly. If that is no longer the case then I'll no longer be your critic. Obviously I also think that publicly analysing a wheel from a popular online casino is a bad idea. But that is just my opinion.

husky

If someone puts such a record, I'll test my patterns gladly. But I ask for it since this topic had opened, no such database, just my fellow Croatian pointed me to Tiago's software. I wasn't at the computer when a message came "The connection to the game server has been lost", if I did, I could just turn it back on. It happens at least 1 time a day at DB.  Probably has a reason.

That's why this system can't be tested on any amount of spins. The code is simple, can be easily programmed in rex, but there's no number database.

husky

Pattern 7 is done. Not bad.

After 7 patterns:

356 (1) + 376 (2) - 52 (3) - 264 (4) + 704 (5) + 190 (6) + 80 (7)= 1390 units profit in 577 spins.

husky

Pattern 8 is the first pattern that has overlaps. Every of these 4 numbers in pattern 8 has been also in one of the previous pattens. A lot of hits. Not too much repeating. It's not on my favourites list by now, and these results are not bad, but confirm my doubts that it is not great too.

356 (1) + 376 (2) - 52 (3) - 264 (4) + 704 (5) + 190 (6) + 80 (7) + 116 (8 )= 1506 units profit in 577 spins with these 8 patterns.

husky

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