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The Grail of Randomness

Started by crackers, March 30, 2012, 02:11:16 PM

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Quote from: crackers on April 30, 2012, 09:17:34 PM
In a nut shell I'm sharing what I have considered trade secrets. He is not. I've kept things to
myself for over five years. This thread is where I'm doing it. Spike is just being Spike.
When he's not around there are no disruptions. There's no arguing going between
me and others here. I'm just attempting to politely answer questions.

Gizmo,

What is your best strategy as far as reading/playing random in regards to the even chances while flat betting?

crackers

Quote from: ll l ll l lll ll on April 30, 2012, 10:09:03 PM
Gizmo,

What is your best strategy as far as reading/playing random in regards to the even chances while flat betting?

I tried it for a few years. It's pathetic. Minimizing opportunity and putting handcuffs
on betting opportunities is less efficient. When you deliberately ignore an opportunity
just to follow some guru's mountain top Zin belief then that leaves you wide open to
limited opportunities. Randomness has far more opportunities than just EC  & flat betting.

So my answer is that I don't have a strategy.

crackers

I may not have a best strategy for the EC's but I do look for opportunities in them.
There's the usual dominance, singles, doubles, and patterns. But a great thing is
About when it is chaotic it's more about what they are not. If it looks like nothing
that is when you use the absence of a trend to show you what's continuing. If it
continues to not be a string of singles and it also is not a dominance of one side
then that is information that you can use too.

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Quote from: crackers on April 30, 2012, 10:50:25 PM
I tried it for a few years. It's pathetic. Minimizing opportunity and putting handcuffs
on betting opportunities is less efficient. When you deliberately ignore an opportunity
just to follow some guru's mountain top Zin belief then that leaves you wide open to
limited opportunities. Randomness has far more opportunities than just EC  & flat betting.

So my answer is that I don't have a strategy.

By observing minimal opportunities in the even chances regarding trends, can it then be assumed that the even chances produces the most chaotic of results?  If its usually chaotic the majority of the time, then this can likely be exploited in expecting it to continue in a chaotic fashion and betting for it to continue.  Almost as if you have to bet in a deliberate chaotic fashion on purpose while staying away from the 'obvious' trends, or anything you can easily 'see,' to gain the advantage.

Your thoughts?

crackers

BarCode -" Your thoughts?"

That's what I do with it. I like the way you put that. Chaotic is the trend so
bet chaotic.

crackers

How long do you chase a first loss? Only once. The art of getting back to even must
include  avoiding dropping into a deep trench. If you don't immediately make a
comeback then you need to immediately give it up. Come back to it later. There
will be a very strong win streak later. Grab it then. ( hence the need for graduated
bets )

bombus


Thanks for keeping this going crackers...

:good:

crackers

Every session is different. It's a good idea to always be prepared to find an
exotic, perfect, or extended pattern. But more important to watch for is
session flow. Some sessions will be more difficult than most others. In
cases where you just don't seem to be getting anywhere it's best to quit while
you are ahead. If it's really a trudge it's sometime best to quit while you are
behind.

crackers

Less is more. Yes, it's true in this too. Only one problem. Those of you beginning
to learn this are predetermined to analyze more complexity in order to gain a full
understanding of randomness' nature. I was not able to avoid this. It will cloud
your impression for a while. In the end it will strengthen your confidence. It is
the final level in understanding randomness. It's after this that you seek
simplification and increased focus. Confidence comes with experience.

crackers

It's the time to deal with magical beliefs. There's always a thread or two dealing
with pet groupings of numbers. Kimo Li is the perfect example of this. People
want to believe that because the grouping is based on position sequences on
the wheel that the distribution of randomness will confirm a weakness in
randomness not existing in the randomness of table layout groupings.
Until they get past these beliefs they are destined  to suffer their own 
form of self imposed confirmation bias.  That's the pitfwll here. If you
are looking at the believed perception and not the more simplistic nature
of randomness  then you end up using the fiction and less the real state
of the conditions.

Kimo Li

What is the simplistic nature of randomness?  In terms of beliefs, there will always be two or more points of view that will challenge the perception of one person or another. 

What appears highly complex may be simple to someone else.  What may seem simple to someone is extremely difficult for others.  What I do is simple from my point of view. 

Ask me to drive on an unfamiliar road, I cannot tell you which direction is north, south, east, or west. I am directionally challenged. Put me in a building with windows, I can tell you the exact direction.

It's all relative.  Neither is right or wrong. If it works for you, so be it. If not, oh well. To discredit someone's point of view simply means you have no understanding of the concept.  It is human nature to align oneself to something that makes sense to the individual, nothing wrong with that. On the other hand, It is human nature to band against something that does not make any sense, nothing wrong with that either.

I just bought some nice shoes.  Now that's random.

Kimo Li

crackers

Link Li, I'm sorry for this misunderstanding. You just stood up for your methods
appropriately.  Its not you that has the magical beliefs problem. I discovered that
randomness treats all groupings equally when size of groups are identical. The only
thing that changes things is the when. The characteristics are the same. In the hands
of the expert these different groupings are simple to follow.

There are people around here that believe that because some numbers are
connected on the wheel, BY ANY DEFINITION OR CONFIGURATIONS, that these
groupings will be less volatile than any table layout groupings of the same size.

I hope you agree. Because there are some really fine superstitious beliefs regarding
certain numbers & certain locations on the wheel after a number has appeared. I
know. I've seen people chase their own favorite demons.

crackers

Typical update, covered under "who gives a damn." I've spent this past week working
on using the EC's when all trends are clearly absent in my charts. This is when things
that continue  become completely out of sight. I've been able to consistently guess at
a hit rate that averages 64% in EC only while completely ignoring all the obvious trends
that I typically use. This week I will combine things that continue in all my pet groupings
with these same 64% opportunities that I once thought were absence of opportunity. I
hope that I can beat an unsubstantiated 72% that lingers as gratification by father
roulette. That at least is a worthy goal.

crackers

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