Guess Who’s Coming to Winner?

[Spike!]

What makes you think there aren't? Most roulette players aren't on roulette forums. There is an older Chinese couple in Vegas that most casinos know. They come in, watch the marquee for awhile, and usually make a bet of $400 on red or black. They win most of the time. Then they leave. If they lose they leave. They're tolerated because they hit and run, never sit and play, and there's really nothing the casino can do about them. I know exactly what they're doing, good for them.

[mistarlupo]

Unless I see someone getting close to it through practice, I'm classifying it as supernatural skill. You should admit it too and stop advising people to waste years of practicing for nothing. One can use that time to find his/her own talent. But of course you are free to do what you want.

[Spike!]

stop advising people to waste years of practicing for nothing>>

Nobody would practice for years unless something was working. You make progress, like anything you practice.

[Bayes]

Unless I see someone getting close to it through practice, I'm classifying it as supernatural skill.

Agreed. And you will never see any evidence that it can be done, just like esp, psychokinesis or any other supernatural ability. The only evidence of pyschic ability is anecdotal, just as it is for EG.

Spike assumes that anyone who puts EG down has never tried it, because their belief system won't let them (the closed minds of the mathboyz), but I'm sure many people investigate this if they're serious about winning. It seems like a plausible way to approach the game, after all, past results are all you have! I've tried it myself and found that it makes not the slightest difference over an extended number of trials. Spike says it takes years to master, but it shouldn't take long before you start seeing some benefit. Even with an edge of 1% you will win.

[bombus]

I've played another session or two and although I'm still in profit, at this point my performance is less than desirable.
I've been trying to keep it simple by not churning over too many past spins, and I'm also trying to glean a profit with short bursts of wins, but random fluctuation is periodically kicking my arse just as it would with almost any strategy you care to mention.

At one point it actually got so frustrating that I stopped and brought in my favourite heavy artillery mechanical system and played the remainder of the session with it... like having a warm and cosy security blanket to snuggle into. I promptly won 200 units then quit.

Cheers.

[Bayes]

At one point it actually got so frustrating that I stopped and brought in my favourite heavy artillery mechanical system and played the remainder of the session with it

Bombus, you are a quitter.  Progressions are the work of the devil. Don't you know bet selection is the god of roulette? 

[mistarlupo]

Well, you are not blessed, obviously. It's still nice to give it a try though.

[Spike!]

It was doomed from the outset. You need True Grit to beat roulette, and thats in short supply these days. Just tell yourself its all GF and you'll feel much better.

[Bayes]

You need True Grit to beat roulette, and thats in short supply these days. Just tell yourself its all GF and you'll feel much better.

I don't know whether bombus has true grit or not, but it seems he can beat roulette without EG. But, you can ignore that and you'll feel much better.

[Spike!]

If he can win consistantly without EG on any table he walks up to, it wouldn't bother me in the least, more power to him..

[Noble Savage]

It was doomed from the outset. You need True Grit to beat roulette, and thats in short supply these days. Just tell yourself its all GF and you'll feel much better.

I'm pretty sure that if Spike shared the way he plays in detail, all of us would still fail and he'd go like "It was doomed from the outset. You people are lazy. You didn't practice enough, etc. etc."

haha

[Spike!]

Oh, I already know you wouldn't practice enough, thats a given. Gamblers are extremely lazy, I've known that for 30 years. Just last week Gabe Kaplan mentioned on his poker show how lazy pro poker players were. Its not just them, its anybody into gambling. They basically want something for the littlest effort possible, thats why they got into it.

[Noble Savage]

Ok, so we're all a bunch of lazy ignorant gamblers and you're this wise master.

Why bother so much with us then? Can't you move on?

[Spike!]

I move on every day, I'm always discovering something new. You're the one who's stuck, you move on.

[Noble Savage]

I move on every day

No you don't, you're here every single day trying to prove a point.

We don't believe you, get over it.

[Noble Savage]

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