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hello my lovely friends!!!
I am here again (in the full systems area) with one more system than it will kick the roulette ass!!! ;D
I hope everyone enjoed my privious system " DS bow system  "and made a lot of cash!!!(some people that I am talking prive they surely did! ;))

so there are 3 ways to play this SYSTEM....
1)The very carefull way(that means little win cash but litlle lose too(but the tests showed as that we will be VERY UP into the long term but in the short term too!!!!!)

2)The medium way(very good cash,medium lose cash)

3)The agressive way(hell a lot of cash,but a lot of losing cash - if u lose)

I prefere the carefull way(but it is in ur choise to chose ,depent of ur starting bank roll and ur ambitions!!!)

so lets get into the SYSTEM

1) THE CAREFULL ;)

We are strarting to play only when the DEALER has changed and he is thowing his 1st spin(this is VERY IMPORTANT,couse and in this SYSTEM we need the help of the DS)
we have a papper and a pen (lol)  and we have writen down the numbers from 1-37.(the one down to the other)
and every spin we write the numbers that came ....
eg
1)  23
2)  15
3)  36
4)   0
5)  21     
...

so when a number will appear for the second time we start betting on it with 1 chip
when a second number will appear(that appeard for the second time) we start beting and on that too!!!with 1 chip
so now we have 2 numbers that we bet with 1 chip(1 to the one and 1 to the other......so 2 chips)
we continue doing that for the other numbers that will apear for 2nd    time.....
so 4 number....4 bets!!!!
so when u will do progressions....(that was ur problem and I will explain u right now!!!!)

when we are starting to bet (from the fist number)every time we get to the next spin,we count (on our papper that I told u above...lol...)the chips that we are losing
so if and when  u I will see
that u have lost 20 chips from ur starting bank roll u will start putting 1 more chip on ur betting numbers(to all of them)
so now when u will hit the number u will get back 70 chips!

so from now on u start writing down also ur lossing chips and if and when u see that 50 chips are lost(dont worry it is VERY DIFICULT to happen)u will put 1 more chip on all ur betting numbers!(so now when u will win u will get back 105 cips back!!!!!(as u can see eaven the "carefull" way makes a lot of money!!!!!)
and u continue this until u hit the number....
then STOP!!!!!!!!!!!! end of 1st sesson
if u want to do that again u must find an other DEALER and do the same thing from the begining(this in the other 2 ways of the system is different)

THE MEDIUM WAY ;)

u do exactly the same think but when the 2nd betting number appears u put 2 chips on ur numbers
when a 3d number appears u put 3 chips
when a 4th number appears u put 4 chips
and continue.....5 numbers 5 chips(to each number )e.t.c
when u will hit the 1st number u stop the progression and continue betting all the privious numbers with 1 chip.....again!
when an other appears u put 2 chips on all off them
an other number appeares 3 chips    e.t.c!!!!(BUT U ALWAYS WRITING DOWN THE LOSSING CHIPS AND IF U HAVE LOST MORE THAN THE CHIPS THAT U WILL EARN U PUT MORE CHIPS ON THE NUMBERS)


THE AGRESSIVE WAY

u do exactly the same as the "middle way" but eaven if u hit the winning number u continue fron the progression u had and when an other 2nd time number appears u bet on it and do 1 more chip progression to all the betting numbers...and continue that eaven if u win again.....
of cource all that for only 37 spins...never more....

test it and tell me
I hope u will get a lot of cash!!!!!
if u think there is some things to do to impove this system please tell me and we will modyfy it
I think the "carefull way" is perfect.........

the medium and the agressive ways maby we can modify them

the carefull way is perfect!!!!

if u want to play VeRrY carefully

when u see that u lose 30 chips u bet 1 more chip
when u see that u lose 60 chips put 1 morechip
when u see that u lose 90 chip put 1 more chip  etc

u do that according the winnings u will take.....

I am waighting for opinions and tests
this way if u lose(7 % pecent as we saw from the tests u will have lose little chips,but if u win u will win little cash again)

 :) Hi Viper I actually worked out how you would play it already when you acknowledged that we play on a number hitting twice. Well done mate looks good to me.

Will give it a go.

Cheers
Jakk

thanks my friend jackal

please try the carefull way

and post here ur resaults


you are the man ;)

hi viper :)how much cash you do you need for a session of "carefull approach"?

ps.you could add to your system the following if you want:
play the sleeper numbers that have not appeard after 80 spins

GOOD SYSTEM VIPER WHAT HAPPENS AFTER IT REAPEATS 3 TIMES DO YOU STOP BETTING ON THAT NUMBER THANKS TINO

hi ikarian man
thanks for the advice,
but I don t bet in sleeper numbers!!!!!!!
one of my roulette sissons was to bet in sleep numbers and I completely lost(a lot of cash!!!)
this seeson I only bet in hot numbers and I am VERY UP(with the bow system and with this one now)
thanks mate!!!!!

the bank roll u will need is around 90 chips i think ...the most 120....it is flexy and not steady but it is very dificult to lose...see in general forum the tests if u want

good luck

people do tests.....
we all waighting for results

thank u all

charles

YES in carefull way u stop betting and u are finding an other dealer to start over(i have already posted that mate!)

THANKS VIPER5

ok,one more question.how much bankroll do you need to start on a 5euro min table?
and a last question,i understand what you do when you lose, you continue to cover the numbers.
but when you win do you uncover the winning number or let it roll for more spins?

I posted u above the bank roll u need!!!!in chips...so count urself

when u win u take the wining chips   lololol    and run to an other dealer(this is only in the carefull way...with the other ways u continue betting until the 37 spins ends!!!)
if u continue with the same dealer it is a little dangerous.....

prefare the safe cash and not the dangerous.....

where are u from ikarian man????greece???

ok,i now saw the bankroll thanks,i am from greece also yes :thumbsup:

Quote from: viper5 on March 29, 2009, 05:44:58 PM
charles

YES in carefull way u stop betting and u are finding an other dealer to start over(I have already posted that mate!)

Hi Viper5  ;)

Many thx for posting.... :thumbsup:


Just out of interest what will you do when the casino changes dealer EVERY 30 mins.... ???

You can play this on any wheel with any dealer because DS doesn't exist. What you are observing is the natural distribution of the numbers.

number six

i think this is not true but everyone has his opinion

but if someone lose must post if he changed dealers

couse from my observing and expirience it is very important to play this with the same dealer

Quote from: Number Six on March 29, 2009, 06:10:28 PM
You can play this on any wheel with any dealer because DS doesn't exist. What you are observing is the natural distribution of the numbers.

I agree, all of my tests were on Speilbank Weisban which didn't take any dealer into account.  All of my tests except 1 showed at least one number in 37 spins that showed 3x.

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@viper
archived roulette spins from months/years
TSK

SPIDER HAVE YOU GIVEN UP ON JACK WISE TINO

@Madupz4

How much did you earn in the spins with the winning sessions and how much costs 1 loosing session?

friendly
roul

Quote from: roul.ette on March 29, 2009, 06:56:14 PM
@Madupz4

How much did you earn in the spins with the winning sessions and how much costs 1 losing session?

I did not play the full system as VIPER stated.  I'm only referring to in the begining when we were looking to see how many times a number repeated 3x within 37 spins.

friendly
roul

pEOPLE READ THIS

VERY IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i played on DB JUST NOW

i played the carefull way as i posted it

i won 14 chips(couse i played the very carefull way!!!)
i won in the 26 spin.....
i just then continue to watch without betting and if i was going for the middle way (continue betting i mean)  i would have lost 500 chips....
so forget about the other 2 ways.....
the winner is the carefull way  O.N.L.Y....win and then STOP

thanks...

Hi
DB just now
2x sessions
1st session won on 29th spin betting 3 numbers
2nd session won on the  19th spin betting 5 numbers!!
regards
TSK

well done my friend spider

Thank you viper
will test more tomorrow
Good luck my friend
TSK

viper wipe you nose. That system is for long time on the planet and it's called Pivot roulette system and another one Great Square system. I played them both and they are often winners but stoploss is must!
The Pivot you bet every repeat (2#'s) for 36 spins - no progression. The Great Square you chart 24 spins and bet all 2 times coming numbers for specific amount of spins. No progression just flat bets! This strategy protects you from the hole when not too many, or too many repeats.
2 #s repeat twice in 24 spins no bet
3 #s repeat twice in 24 spins bet for 12 spins
4 #s repeat twice in 24 spins bet for 9 spins
5 #s repeat twice in 24 spins bet for 7 spins
6 #s repeat twice in 24 spins bet for 6 spins
7 #s repeat twice in 24 spins bet for 5 spins
Less than 3 and more than 7 you don't bet. Chart another 24 spins.
Bankroll: 100 units
Hermes

It's all short-term distribution and the law of the third.

hermes I think u are a litle SLOW!!!!! :P

I wrote in the general board that this system already exists BUT
I have made a few modifications to make it more safe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

so u didn t do anythink by telling this now

I was very clear

if u play the system the way is the original u will lose in the long term hundrend of chips!!!!(couse of the low of the 3d little number 6)
with mine u will just be a winner!!!!!!!!! ;)
some people just want to be bad on people that helps people
try to find a system on ur own and then came ans speak to me

Viper do you use condoms to make it safer? I am not putting you down I try to help you that's all.

Hermes

I think you need to do this in cycles of 37 spins once hit and in profit then chart again

I just  charted some numbers on video roulette at my local club no DS and they do repeat. just the approach  i really not sure about how many repeats does one need to come out on top i am thinking one will not be enought if it hits late in the cycle

natural9,

Viper5 calculates how many units he has lost and bets based upon that loss. So he uses a small progression, u only need 1 number to repeat itself once for a 3th time.

Question is how many times do you encounter a set of 37 spins that has no 3the repeater?

kind regards,
skrizy

The success rate is 98.4%, so you will lose roughly 16 sessions in every 1000. If you make more in the winning sessions than lose in the losing ones (and it's a big "if") then it's winner.  ;)

Please, please, pretty please....I'm not saying that anyone should do this. I tried Viper's system on RNG at Afrcan Palace. Only played 10c chips and only did 3 sessions....but all three sessions won!


Cheers
Jakk  :D

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jakal

i also tried my system(the agresive  way)in an other rng cazino played with 5 euros chips
and in one seeson i won 1200 euros!!!!!!
this just happened my friend......

we all know that the rule is allways to win with this.....
but we must think something about the exeptions..... so in the long term to be up!!!!
thanks
well done jakal.....
i am happy for u!!!

hi guys,

I've been playing this system for over 40 sessions now. not 1 loss yet. I know it will come one day sooner or later.
I track 24 spins and only play if there are no 3 repeaters, if there is one , I retrack. then I play those numbers that
repeated 2 and use a progression to come out in plus when one number hits.
I'm just wondering if other people tried this and what to do when there is no 3 repeater in 37 spins, do you stop? continue?
I was thinking of taking the loss, it will aprox. be 400 to 500 units, then restart another day and doubling your first unit size? keep playing with this unit size until you almost break even with your previous high.
playing this with 1 ct units(building up the bankroll you know  :thumbsup:)  on rng,  great for testing. 

good luck to you all,

tom

WELL DONE....
VERY GOOD THOUGHTS!!!!!

BUT WHY U SAY THAT IF U LOSE U WILL LOSE 400-500 CHIPS...AREN T THEY VERY MUCH???

I THINK IS 100-250

Hi Viper5,
             have played several sessions with your system and not lost 1 yet.I have been tracking the numbers as you said,the start betting when 1 appears twice.When I get a win I have been joting down the last 10 numbers spun and starting again from there instead of starting from the begining again.Did have 1 session that went up to 179 units but thank god it won.I think this is a great system,cant relly see anyway to improve it though,I think you've done all the hard work my friend,
                           Dave.  :thumbsup:

Ok will have a look at that too,cheer's viper5 :thumbsup:

Unfortunately after 8 session, this system failed 2 times on me on dublinbet and I was broke. I don't think it's very safe.

I started with new dealer every time and put one extra chip on 20 lost and one more extra on 50 lost and it failed. I think the win percentage is somewhat lower than 98%

Quote from: eightfour on April 02, 2009, 03:11:42 AM
Unfortunately after 8 session, this system failed 2 times on me on dublinbet and I was broke. I don't think it's very safe.

I started with new dealer every time and put one extra chip on 20 lost and one more extra on 50 lost and it failed. I think the win percentage is somewhat lower than 98%

Did any numbers repeat three time and if so how many

eightfour can you be more clear? What do you mean 20 lost and 50 lost?

Ronin

Not a consistent winner this system , i lost on my first session  :(

I played these methods before and often the bankroll vanished quick!  ;D

hi,

yesterday i lost one session  :) no 3 repeats in 37 spins. loss was 200 units.
doubled up my unit size today and recovered in 5 sessions. made a profit to on the last one. has anyone any statistics or experience if it happens often to get 37 spins without a number repeating 3 times?

thx

I have had a few sessions where it reached 40 spins. I too am curious if anyone has stats on highest number of spins to get 3 repeat. Or does anyone have the Rx coding for this?

I find one of the weaknesses of this sytem is if we have a lot of numbers that appear twice before a number is spun the third time.

That means we end up maybe with 9-10 numbers anda heavy progression. From here it get's so heavy that the progression cannot be sustained. In testing it has happened  few times with me.

Cheers
Jakk