My dealer friend's bet selection

[The Spiders Kiss]

I like this Victor....... A LOT...thank you ,my friend 
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[ikarianman]

hello friends!i am playing this style  for some days now,and i only had one lost,a 5th stuck was shaped once,but it doesnt matter so much i guess.also i combine it with a "five repeat" of a doz or col then bet the other 2(kind of fallacy i now but works most of the times).what about mixing the Lw system also?and get an hybrid playing 2 or 3 systems as one so not to wait for 1 trigger  but 2 or 3?the time of waiting will be less and the profits bigger,(i hope there will be)

ps :as for the observing a 5 repeat of a dozen may not impress anybody but a result that would  be much more out of ordinary would yell  "bet against me"
it could be something like this in doz or columns

11111211111x? and then bet against 1 betting 2 and 3.you dont have to wait for this to happen you can observe it as it has already happened by tracking all the events of your different systems

i believe that observing events and not betting on  them waiting to develope ,doesnt make them less worthy than if we were betting on them

[sniper]

Hello Lanky Mate,

Would you be kind enough to advise us on how to use your 6 point divisor on this one? We are ready to learn from you and start testing on B&M casino.

Thank you very much

Regards

sniper

[Lanky]

Hello Lanky Mate,

Would you be kind enough to advise us on how to use your 6 point divisor on this one? We are ready to learn from you and start testing on B&M casino.

Thank you very much

Regards

sniper

Hi Champion.

Mate I may have to tweak a thing or two first to make all this gel together.

I would rather You waited a day or so until I give this thing a run and settle on what I think is the safest way to play it Mate.

So I will do an example Playing the Divisor in a non aggressive way.On The Single Dozen part for You.
Like I normally would bet the single Dozens Like this.
1 1 1 2=5
or
1 1 2 2=6
whichever way it all adds up to a loss of 5 or 6 then I would add that to a win target of 6 without taking the Zero pocket or the Zero so it would look like this then=6/12=2

So on an 12 loss bet sequence it would look like this in total

1 1 1 2=5 or 1 1 2 2=6<<Add this 6 to a Win target of 6=12 << and divide that by a Divisor of 6

Like this

6/12=2=14
6/14=3=17
6/17=3=20
6/20=4=24 << now 4 lost bets in a row up goes the Divisor to 7
7/24=4=28
7/28=4=32
7/32=5=37
7/37=6=43 << another 4 lost bets in a row so up goes the divisor to 8

Thats 12 lost bets in a row
Now we get some wins

8/43=6=49 Win- less 18 back=31 <<Bet Won so down to 7 with Divisor
7/31=5=36 Win- less 15 back=21 << bet Won so down to 6 with the divisor
6/21=4=25 Win- less 12 back=13 << bet won so down to 5 with the Divisor
5/13=3=16 Win- less 9 back=7 << bet won so down to 4 with the divisor
4/7=2=9 Win- less 6 back=3-6 win target= +[3} Profit.

5 wins in 17 bets =29% Win strike rate.
..........................................................................

Lets now do the exact same thing in a slightly more agressive (medium way)

1 1 1 2=5 or 1 1 2 2=6<<Add this 6 to a Win target of 6=12 << and divide that by a Divisor of 6

Like this

6/12=2=14
6/14=3=17
6/17=3=20
6/20=4=24 << now 4 lost bets in a row up goes the Divisor to 7
7/24=4=28
7/28=4=32
7/32=5=37
7/37=6=43 << another 4 lost bets in a row so up goes the divisor to 8

Thats 12 lost bets in a row
Now we get some wins

8/43=6=49 Win-less 18 back=31 <<Divisor drops by >>2<< this time
6/31=6=37 Win-less 18 back=19  << Divisor Down 2 again to 4
4/19=5=24 Win-less 15 back=9 << Divisor down to 2 << bring in Safety brake of 2/3 Like this
2/9+
2/3
.........
4/12 >>win target is now [9]

4/12=3=15 Win-less 9 back=6-9 win target= +[3} Profit

4 wins in 16 bets = 25% Win strike Rate.

As You can see Mate I have to do some adjusting.
I would prefer You waited a little mate.

By all means get some practise in doing it both ways ......but things may change a little thats all.

Of Course I can go up a couple of gears yet with Divisor to make it a lot more aggressive.
But its My job to make it as safe as I can for You Mate.

Good On-Ya Mate

Lanky.

[sniper]

Thank you Lanky Mate.
We will surely wait for your brilliant guidance before we start attacking.
We have fullest confident in your Divisor. You are my Hope and my Mentor.

Regards

sniper

[hoper35]

I love single dozens betting.  I've only lost once, out of a dozen or so trips, betting similar to this. 

Ron.

[Lanky]

Hi Forum.

I will post this ,it might go all over the place when posted but I don't know much about computers.

Like all new systems ,You run into things You don't expect when actually playing them.

This is a very Important part that has to be known about this
method.

And VICTOR is the one that can tell us the correct answer.

Now D1: 1-2-3-4 <<trigger & bet..
Now if it goes 4-W<<then its not counted going forward as it would be a repeat.

But what about this....4-L-W or 4-L-L-W
Is the restart counted from the Win Bet because of the Gap/s ?

In other words if there is a Gap of 1 or 2 between the Win bet is the W also counted as 1 ?

That's a very Important point to know.

What I did in this case was to start the recount AFTER the Won Bet.
I could have been wrong but that's what I did this time.

This System would be able to be played a lot better using a Bot.
As I Assume everything would be done as soon as the result was known and it would tell You in a Nano second what & where to Bet.

There would also be more time on most Real Tables to get the preparation right in most case as it would be longer time wise to the next call of (No More Bets).

However I decided to test it on Air-Ball Roulette because that keeps Me in training for the Rapid Roulette Tables at Star City in Sydney that give You about the Same time to place Your bets , somewhere between 30 to 35 seconds.


Victors Friend must be very clever to do this all at once.

Now as soon as I filled the card out the way I wanted it I saw there would be a Problem in the small space of time I had each spin.
Like this
Number..D1-D2-D3....C1-C2-C3 = 7 things that has to be done BEFORE I had a Bet.

Now what happens if there is 2 bets at the same time = 9

What if there was more And at one time there was.

So I decided to Play them as only 2 separate Bets.
The Dozens and the Columns.


0D-1-2-3--1-2-3
14-x-1-x--x-1-x
36-x-1-1--x-1-1
08-1-1-1--x-2-1
12-R-1-1--x-2-2
05-R-1-1--x-3-2
33-x-1-2--x-3-3
22-x-1-2--1-3-3
20-x-R-2--1-R-3
19-x-R-2--2-x-3
12-1-x-2--2-x-4 >>Bet C3-Lw
02-R-x-2--2-1-L
24-x-1-2--2-1-W
07-1-x-2—3-1-x
09-R-x-2—3-1-1
34-x-x-3—4-1-1 Bet C1-Lw
30-x-x-R—L-1-2
10-1-x-x—w-1-2
34-1-x-1—R-1-2
30-1-x-R—x-1-3
18-1-1-x—x-1-R
16-1-R-x—1-1-x
21-1-R-x—1-1-1
02-2-x-x—1-2-1
21-2-1-x—1-2-2
23-2-R-x—1-3-2
03-3-x-x—1-3-3
36-3-x-1—1-3-R
34-3-x-R—2-3-x
03-4-x-x—2-3-1 >>D1-w
02-w-x-x—2-4-1>> Bet C2-LLL
22-x-1-x—3-L-1
28-x-1-1—R-L-1
03-1-1-1—x-L-2
21-1-2-1—x-x-R
15-1-R-1—x-x-R
24-1-R-1—x-x-R
01-2-x-1—1-x-x
24-2-1-1—1-x-1
18-2-R-1—1-x-R
13-2-R-1—2-x-x
14-2-R-1—2-1-x
30-2-x-2—2-1-1
20-2-1-2—2-2-1
19-2-R-2—3-2-1
09-3-x-2—3-2-2
07-R-x-2—4-2-2 >>Bet C1-LLL
09-R-x-2—L-2-3
26-x-x-3—L-3-3
11-1-x-3—L-R-3
35-1-x-4—x-R-3 >>Bet D3-LLL
09-2-x-L—x-x-4 >>Bet C3-Lw
01-R-x-L—1-x-L
21-x-1-L—1-x-W
20-x-R-x—1-1-x
09-1-x-x—1-1-1
12-R-x-x—1-1-R
15-x-1-x—1-1-R
35-x-1-1—1-2-x
30-x-1-R—1-2-1
07-1-1-x—2-2-1
32-1-1-1—2-3-1
25-1-1-R—3-3-1
28-1-1-R—R-3-1
27-1-1-R—x-3-2
29-1-1-R—x-4-2 >>Bet C2-LoLL
31-1-1-R—1-L-2
00-o-o-o—o-o-o
27-1-1-R—1-L-3
06-2-1-x—1-L-R
35-2-1-1—1-1-x
02-3-1-1—1-R-x
09-R-1-1—1-x-1
00-o-o-o—o-o-o
21-x-2-1—1-x-R
02-1-2-1—1-1-x
25-1-2-2—2-1-x
20-1-3-2—2-2-x
14-1-R-2—2-R-x
36-1-x-3—2-x-1
20-1-1-3—2-1-1
25-1-1-4—3-1-1 >>Bet D3-LLL
09-2-1-L—3-1-2
23-2-2-L—3-2-2
04-3-2-L—4-2-2  >>Bet C1-w
01-R-2-x—w-2-2
07-R-2-x—R-2-2
00-o-o-o—o-o-o
30-x-2-1—x-2-3

Lunch Break


26-x-x-1—x-1-x
15-x-1-1—x-1-1
02-1-1-1—x-2-1
12-R-1-1—x-2-2
27-x-1-2—x-2-R
28-x-1-R—1-2-x
16-x-2-x—R-2-x
27-x-2-1—x-2-1
09-1-2-1—x-2-R
10-R-2-1—1-2-x
33-x-2-2—1-2- 1
00-o-o-o—o-o-o
29-x-2-R—1-3-1
14-x-3-x—1-R-1
17-x-R-x—1-R-1
02-1-x-x—1-R-1
03-R-x-x—1-x-2
14-x-1-x—1-1-2
26-x-1-1—1-R-2
03-1-1-1—1-x-3
17-1-2-1—1-1-3
22-1-R-1—2-1-3
35-1-x-2—2-2-3
19-1-1-2—3-2-3
32-1-1-3—3-3-3
01-2-1-3—4-3-3 >>Bet C1-oLLL
00-o-o-o—o-o-o
15-2-2-3—L-3-4 >>Bet C3-LLL
02-3-2-3—L-4-L >>Bet C2-w
23-3-3-3—L-w-L
13-3-R-3—1-x-L
35-3-x-4—1-1-x >>Bet D3-w
25-3-x-w—2-1-x
28-3-x-R—R-1-x
14-3-1-x—x-2-x
31-3-1-1—1-2-x
15-3-2-1—1-2-1
04-4-2-1—2-2-1 >>Bet D1-LLL
25-L-2-2—R-2-1
16-L-3-2—R-2-1
19-L-R-2—R-2-1
31-x-x-3—R-2-1
23-x-1-3—1-3-1
18-x-R-3—1-3-2
10-1-x-3—2-3-2
15-1-1-3—2-3-3
12-2-1-3—2-3-R
20-2-2-3—2-4-x >>Bet C2-w
05-3-2-3—2-w-x
16-3-3-3—3-x-x
26-3-3-4—3-1-x >>Bet D3-LLL
11-4-3-L—3-R-x >>Bet D1-w
12-w-3-L—3-x-1
23-x-4-L—3-1-1 >>Bet D2-Lw
04-1-L-x—4-1-1 >>Bet C1-LoLL
21-1-w-x—L-1-2
00-o-o-o—o-o-o
23-1-R-x—L-2-2
02-2-x-x—L-R-2
33-2-x-1—x-x-3
17-2-1-1—x-1-3
05-3-1-1—x-R-3
10-R-1-1—1-x-3
12-R-1-1—1-x-4 >>Bet C4-w
36-x-1-2—1-x-w
17-x-2-2—1-1-x
23-x-R-2—1-R-x
28-x-x-3—2-x-x
24-x-1-3—2-x-1
24-x-R-3—2-x-R
17-x-R-3—2-1-x
25-x-x-4—3-1-x >>Bet D3-w
29-x-x-w—3-2-x

D=w-LLL-LLL-w-LLL-L(wL)-Lw-w

Dozens=5 Wins in 17 Bets=29.4% Win Strike Rate.

C= Lw-Lw-LLL-LLL-Lw-LoLL-w-oL(LL)(LwL)L-w-LoLL-w

Columns=7 wins in 31 Bets=22.6% Win Strike Rate.


I will do the Betting Later as I have spent a lot of time on this post and if anyone is still awake ,they can see this post is long enough now.


Here are some Extra Numbers that came after I stopped If anyone needs them.

05-
25-
32-
12-
07-
33-
08-
23-
20-
07-
13-
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Lanky.

[Lanky]

Hi Guys.

The Betting on this Method went like this.

The Zero Pocket Bets of  Zero –1- 2 –3 are in Brackets.

Dozens

D1
(02)-W-6/7=2+1=10 Won/Won Zp-less 6+9=15 back-10=5+7={12} Profit

D3
09-L-6/7=2+1=10 Lost
(1)-L-6/10=2+1=13 Lost/Won Zp –9 back =4 –7=3+12={15} Total Profit
21-L-6/7=2+1=10 Lost

D3
09-L-6/10=2+1=13 Lost
23-L-6/13=3+1=17 Lost
04-L-6/17=3+1=21 Lost >>Div up to 7

Lunch

D3
25-W-7/21=3+1=24 Won-9 Back =13 >>Div down to 6

D1
25-L-6/13=3+1=17 Lost
16-L-6/17=3+1=21 Lost
19-L-6/21=4+1=26 Lost

D3
11-L-6/26=5+1=32 Lost  >>Div up 7

D3-D1 << 2 Bets Here
12-L-W-7/32=10+2=44 Won-15 Back=29 >>Div to 6

D3
23-L-6/29=5+1=35 Lost

D2
04-L-6/35=6+1=42 Lost
21-W-6/42=7+1=50 Won-21 back=29 >>Div to 5

D3
25-W-5/29=5+1=35 Won-15 back=20-7 win target =13 Less15 Profit=
Overall Profit +{2}

Dozens 5 Wins from 17 Bets =29.4%= Overall Profit +{2} On the Dozens

Columns

C3
(2)-L-6/7=2+1=10 Lost/Won-9 Back Zp=1-6={5} Profit
24-W-6/7=2+1=10 Won-6back=4-7=+3+5={8} Profit

C1
30-L-6/7=2+1=10 Lost
10-W-6/10=2+1=13 Won-6=7-7 win Target=Even & a carry over Profit of {8}

C2
22-L-6/7=2+1=10 Lost
28-L-6/10=2+1=13 Lost
(3)-L-6/13=3+1=17 Lost/Won Zp-9 back=8

C1
09-L-6/8=2+1=11 Lost >>Div to 7
26-L-7/11=2+1=14 Lost
11-L-7/14=3+1=18 Lost

C3
(1)-L-7/18=3+1=22 Lost/Won Zp-9 back =13
21-W-7/13=2+1=16 Won-6 back=10 >>Div to 6

C2
31-L-6/10=2+1=13 Lost
(0)-L-6/13=3+1=17 Lost/Won Zp-9 back=8
27-L-6/8=2+1=11 Lost
06-L-6/11=2+1=14 Lost >>Div 7

C1
(1)-W-7/14=2+1=17 Won/Won Zp-15 back=2-7=5+8={13} Total Profit Div to 6

Lunch

C1
(0)-L-6/7=2+1=10 Lost/Won Zp-9 back=1-7=+6+13={19} Total Profit
15-L-6/7=2+1=10 Lost

C1 & C3 <<2 Bets Here
(2)-L-L-6/10=4+2=16 Lost/Won Zp-18 back=+2+6=8+19={27} T/Profit

C1-C2 & C3 << 3 Bets here
23-LwL-6/7=6+3=16 Lost Won Lost-6 back=10

C3
13-L-6/10=2+1=13 Lost

C2
05-W-6/13=3+1=17 Won-9 back=8 >>Div to 5

C1
21-L-6/7=2+1=10 Lost
(0)-L-6/10=2+1=13 Lost/Won Zp-9 Back=4-7=+3+27={30} T/Profit
23-L-6/7=2+1=10 Lost
(2)-L-6/10=2+1=13 Lost/Won Zp-9 back=4-7=+3+30={33} T/Profit

C3
36-W-6/7=2+1=10 Won-6 back=4-7=+3+33={36} Total Profit

Columns 7 Wins from 31 bets = 22.6%=Overall Profit {36}


Summary.

I won 2 On the dozens and 36 on the Columns= a Profit of {38}.

Now I may have messed things up somewhere on this post.
But +38 was what I did Win on the day if it should have been more then Bad Luck for me because that's all I won.

.

Overall there were 17+31=48 Bets
Overall there were 05+07=12 Wins
That's a Win strike Rate of 25% on All Bets.

I had 48 bets on the Zero Pocket and Won 11 of them.
That's 48 out and –99 back= a profit of 51.

Yet I only Won +38 Overall Playing the Method.


Something I did notice was that on this occasion was the Zero never hit while playing the Dozens with this Method.

Yet it hit 3 Times while playing the Columns.

Its just an observation on My part that's all.

Your Friend.

Lanky.

[Natural9]

Hi  Lanky
What is your gut feel on this method would those same numbers you play been better using the LW on the 2 dozens

Is it simpler to play or is there more betting action

Regards To you Lanky and all others

Rodney

[hoper35]

Hi Lanky.

I have one question.

What was for lunch?


Ron.
I hate when I get hungry while betting.

[Lanky]

Hi  Lanky
What is your gut feel on this method would those same numbers you play been better using the LW on the 2 dozens

Is it simpler to play or is there more betting action

Regards To you Lanky and all others

Rodney

Hi Mate.

That's a hard question to answer at the Moment Mate because there has only been one test that I have done for Real money so far.

At a I guess I would say play the Lw's on the Dozen and this Method on the Columns.....Maybe that would work better for Me.

There is a Lot to do when it comes time to bet Mate especially if there is more then 2 betting options at the one time....You feel like an Octopus.

I was interested in Two things that came out of it though Mate....

1-It was Air-Ball
2- The Zeros hit 3 times while playing this on the columns.

That's a decent Hint for You Rodney that there MAY be something worth testing My Friend.

Good On Ya Mate.

Lanky.

[Lanky]

Hi Lanky.

I have one question.

What was for lunch?


Ron.
I hate when I get hungry while betting.

Hi Mate.

Actually it was Half a Lobster (small size) and a Glass of Chardonnay each.

We were heavily Comped Mate because of our Membership there and it all came to $22..for The Lot.

The Bloody wine is $5 a Glass so it was a good deal for us to pay only $22 all up.

Good on Ya Ron.

Lanky.

[MiniBaccarat]

G'day Lanky,

2 times half a lobster & drinks for $22 sounds like GREAT value,
though last time I ate like that, I found the company I had even BETTER value!

Glenn.

[Lanky]

@Victor.

Mate could You answer this Question for Me please.

And VICTOR is the one that can tell us the correct answer.
Now D1: 1-2-3-4 <<trigger & bet..
Now if it goes 4-W<<then its not counted going forward as it would be a repeat.

But what about this....4-L-W or 4-L-L-W
Is the restart counted from the Win Bet because of the Gap/s ?

In other words if there is a Gap of 1 or 2 between the Win bet is the W also counted as 1 ?

That's a very Important point to know.

Lanky.

[VLSroulette]

Lionel, sorry for the big delay my brother I am in 1000 things. Both online and in my "offline" day-to-day life.

Just went yesterday to the casino with dealer friend at night, 9:30pm and went home past 2 a.m. enough hours at the same seat (some days I fear I'll need a spatula to separate my butcheeks when session finish ) and well, dealer friend won yet again with his methodology. I wasn't playing the same table so I didn't witness his tracking in full, only a while at the beginning and he was too concentrated and I didn't want to ask. I did comment on you and the forum liking this which he enjoyed.

We only got together to commute to the casino and then there we took separate ways to different tables. He is increasingly liking the automated wheels while I'm more reacious to letting those alfa street machines get some teeth on my gambling money. I like this particular casino's manual wheel as it has shallow pockets and therefore not much ball scatter which serve well for a disc-based automated grind I'm trying regarding zones & repeats, depending on the outcome of these real results I may or may not tweak it before posting it at sponsors' area. When betting physical approaches I like a human dealer spinning the ball and placing myself at the table with the best conditions I.e. shallow pockets disc, etc...

Geez got carried away writing, to your question Lionel: "Is the restart counted from the Win Bet because of the Gap/s ?"

Any time you have a "betting event" finished you restart, you don't reuse past spins, you retrack fresh after latest successful attack. Always remembering to "letting it go" past the attack zone.

If it goes over and over you guys know the professional way is for us to avoid getting stubborn as in "it can't go past X or Y" or "Now it must hit as I haven't seen that many of...". Pride yourself of patience, wait for the "negative clumping" to pass by and then track a new event fresh.

Losing scenario:

I.e.
1
1
2 <- first repeat.
3 <- 2nd repeat.
4 <- 3rd repeat = Trigger enabled.
2 <- Attack
2 <- Attack
5 <- no bet, just patience...
2 <- no bet, just patience...
1 <- finished the "neative clump", you just forget about this, keep tracking and aim for a new event.

Imagine the same, but at a winning scenario:

1
1
2 <- first repeat.
3 <- 2nd repeat.
4 <- 3rd repeat = Trigger enabled.
2 <- Attack
1 <- Win. Trigger lead to success, attack successfullly ended.

Likewise you forget anything else about this one, restart your tracking and wait for new trigger conditions.

BTW, for this one I prefer this graphical representation better than Lw's!!!



Hope this allows you to understand a bit better mate. It is my understanding the key for his method is to be an EVENT-BASED player and just forgetting about what just passed by. Remember, this isn't my methodology but his and I see he only cares about the current / latest trigger and doesn't care about the trending on which event. He only focuses at the latest one on the spot and that's it. He has his triggers, money management, patience to wait proper time, then he bets and does his thing.

Regards.
Victor

[VLSroulette]

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