FINDING A CONSISTENT WINNING ROULETTE BET

[WARRIOR]

NUMBER SIX WE ARE ALL IN A DREAM STATE AND UNTIL YOU BECOME AWARE THAT YOUR DREAMING THERE IS NO HOPE FOR ANY OF US .

[Number Six]

NUMBER SIX WE ARE ALL IN A DREAM STATE AND UNTIL YOU BECOME AWARE THAT YOUR DREAMING THERE IS NO HOPE FOR ANY OF US .

Charles,

I hope you know I'm not talking about you...unless you're Charles Edwank Hampshire...?

[Demon of Randomness]

@Demon of Randomness
Welcome aboard, and Kudos for organizional skills.(and zealousness)
It's good to see people honestly and seriously working on this. The creme is rising to the top
@Tino
Am testing. I told you, very interesting.

Step 1. Look at the movements on the board
           -look for something that should happen more, but doesn't
Step 2. Corralate with oddities on the board.
Step 3. Look for no win/ no lose bet.
Step 4. Look for a "bet within that bet"
Step 5. Look for consistant loser that can be turned around into
            a consistant winner.(not all bets can be reversed)
Step 6. Tweak for profitability?
- I don't think he is giving clues to an exact bet. He is giving clues to find A consistant winning bet. (your own) Most likely any one of the four.
-though he says you won't find his.
Anyway, happy to help if I can
BTW. I could be wrong about the steps but, it's my perception of things

Thank you on warm welcome friend! Your help on this is more than apprecieted.

Your perception on steps in finding CEH's bet looks good. It corresponds with commonsense and with way in which clues are presented. BUT WE NEVER, EVER, EVER MUST TAKE THIS PUZZLE/CEH'S BET AS OUR HOLY BIBLE!

Only dogma and thus certain starting point from CEH's bet that we should relay on is that ANSWER OF BEATING ROULETTE LIES IN FINDING THAT ONE (OR MORE) RELIABLE THING(S) THAT RANDOMNESS DOES. Why? Because randomness is something that existed before CEH and will exist after. Also CEH pointed out some facts (that we can see with our very eyes) about uneveness of the table that we can relay on. CEH's bet can help us but it also can limit us, deceive us (accidentally or on purpose). For example, CEH's term "TRAP" is something that i would (at first) describe as static bet, always the same (re-bet button). Have you ever seen hunter who runs with bear-trap and tries to throw it on bear? No, he puts the trap on one place, hides and WAITS. Word for "TRAP" should be LASSO or something cause by CEH we always throws bet on place where last spun number shows us.

But, we must not stay blind for useful tips we can find in CEH's site so i propose we should make shorter version of puzzle with only clues and tips that matter (from all 20 pages we can make 1 useful page top, others are blog bullsh*t). We could then post it here marked as MANUAL and point that it shouldn't be taken for granted. If you are willing and have time you could be the maker of MANUAL (manual worker  ).

Cheers         

[zeus]

Good to hear you agree mate! Welcome to the team! Don't be in a hurry friend.  Picking numbers is the easiest part.

Hi Demon,
How about start from the easy part?
I mean start collecting numbers from spielbank casino in order to create a database of 3000 spins, 100 spins from 30 different tables and dates?

[WARRIOR]

demon of radomness che said the numrical results are to confusing this is how the bet was found  quote: try letter coding  remanufactured bet just his quotes. so i dont understand numrical results are to confusing do you no what he means by this.

[Demon of Randomness]

And now some very important stuff about tools of the trade.Tools of the trade are given in table layout thus in rules of the game. Why i call them tools? It's because they have many functions so they are like some kind of multitools, they don't have just one purpose.

TOOLS are: EVEN CHANCES (BLACK/RED, EVEN/ODD, HI/LOW), DOZENS, COLUMNS,
DOUBLE STREETS (LINES), CORNERS, STREETS, SPLITS.

Observing (looking). If we just look randomness represented by strings of plain numbers we find it very hard to spot some pattern using just our eyes . Then we usualy reach for help of a microscope. Our microscope is our full attention. Things look more clearly and now we can spot that some numebers are repeating and that some numbers didn't show up. But that is not enough. Now we need LENSES to mount on our microscope. LENSES are TOOLS.

Example:

plain numbers - 18 32 36 4 31 13 21

plain numbers with mounted black/red lense - R R R B B R 

Now we can easily spot a pattern but we don't have a clue how to use it. I think that KEY IS IN COMBINING DIFFERENT LENSES TO SPOT PATTERNS, RUNS, CHANGES, LAWS (CALL THEM AS YOU LIKE) IN RANDOMNESS.

Defining (coding) numbers - it's basicly the same thing but looked from different angle. We define things by categorizing them. Aristotle used 10 categories to define all things in world around him. CATEGORIES ARE TOOLS. They show color of number, is it even or odd, small or big, and his (more or less precise) location on table. By comparing numbers we can see that some are more similar then others. The more same categories 2 numbers share the more they are similar. 4 and 6 for example. That could also help us in constructing the bet.

Coding numbers/lenses mounting should be represented by symbols (maybe even by colors) for easier analyzing. Best and maybe most natural symbols are letters (with maybe numbers added).

red     -   R
black   -   B
even    -   E
odd     -   O
hi      -   H
low     -   L
dozens  - d1, d2, d3
columns - c1, c2, c3
lines   - ?

Things get more complicated, don't they?

I THINK THAT KEY IS IN CHOOSING ONLY RELEVANT TOOLS/LENSES/CATEGORIES AND PROPER USE OF SYMBOLS.

We should also work on RELATIONS BETWEEN TOOLS, DEFAULT AND ENGENEERED TOOLS...

[Carlitos]

.......I just read CEH page20. He says that you are right on track Demon 





He also says to go private with this because it's no good that " the bett " or an other consistent winning bett becomes publicly know....... just think about it.......



I must say that I agree with CEH 



Perhaps starts an private study group like last time?





Carlitos

[The Spiders Kiss]

Hi Demon
I tried something similar to this a while ago ,but without gang effort ,so I didnt get very far however my point is...I put D1,C1 etc and boy is it hard to scan and find differences or consistents using this method they all blend into one after a while.
I like your suggestion of using colours and think this will help us to find the type of thing we are looking for.
After all we have to give ourselves as much chance as possible to "see the tree for the wood" .
I for one would hate to miss it!!!
regards
TSK

[ikarianman]

hello all.
general talking most of us have played roulette for real money.whatever system we play can be very good or very  bad. because i believe that system doesnt matters really.what i know really matters-that are some very serius mistakes i do and probably many of us here trying to solve these mistakes by finding a holy grail.
simply mayby the holy grail is know when to QUIT your session.why i say this?
because in most of my lossing sessions when i was on progressions and after 4-5  loses i knew that i will continue to lose but i continued to bet-and when u have that feeling and fear ,its 99,99 %that u will continue to lose, so stop betting then.
why dont just step out of the game when you know numbers dont like you anymore?its so simple.if for example you started with 50 units and went up to 150 and then have a quick fall to 80 units thats a sign that u will lose you underware,stop at 80 units and be satisfied with this.
i think that the consistent winning bet is not based  on a system or anything else than your attitude.and dicipline is mayby the hardest part to win

[gunslinger]

hello all.
general talking most of us have played roulette for real money.whatever system we play can be very good or very  bad. because I believe that system doesn't matters really.what I know really matters-that are some very serius mistakes I do and probably many of us here trying to solve these mistakes by finding a holy grail.
simply mayby the holy grail is know when to QUIT your session.why I say this?
because in most of my lossing sessions when I was on progressions and after 4-5  loses I knew that I will continue to lose but I continued to bet-and when u have that feeling and fear ,its 99,99 %that u will continue to lose, so stop betting then.
why dont just step out of the game when you know numbers dont like you anymore?its so simple.if for example you started with 50 units and went up to 150 and then have a quick fall to 80 units thats a sign that u will lose you underware,stop at 80 units and be satisfied with this.
I think that the consistent winning bet is not based  on a system or anything else than your attitude.and dicipline is mayby the hardest part to win

Hi
I have to say I agree with Ikarian man...up to a point.
There is no point having a consistent winning bet and then giving it all back on the bad streaks..but I dont think that thats is it in total
Gunslinger

[Moccoman]

Hi Spiders Kiss,

When coding I put each component into 12 columns - R/B, O/E, H/L, with the columns A B and C and the Dozens A B and C, a separate column for each one.

If you do this in excel you can then hide various aspects and see whether there is any relationship between some or all of the columns you have created.

It is must easier to see the components this way, rather than colours or with coding as D1, D2, D3 etc, as you are right it would do your head in!!

Regards
Mocco

[zeus]

I don't believe there is a consistent winning bet, I believe, as CEH says, there is a consistent winning formula that can make a small but stable profit only to a kind of people called "professional roulette players".
The really hard think is to become one of them.
That's why I don't believe that publishing a good bet will make all the forum members rich.
Most people wants a system like "put 2 units on red, 1 unit on 1st dozen 1 unit on 2nd street and when you double your bankroll go home".
Perhaps a consistent winning bet is already published in this forum but we don't know it because "it's not so simple" or "it needs a lot of testing".
So finding a consistent winning bet is the very first step and we must be organized in order to find one.
Good hunting!

[Nathan Detroit]

*****Perhaps a consistent winning bet is already published in this forum but we don't know it because "it's not so simple" or "it needs a lot of testing".
So finding a consistent winning bet is the very first step and we must be organized in order to find one.
Good hunting! ******ZEUS


......OR the winning bet has already been published but it looked  too simple and it was  OVERLOOKED..

Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

[win3milion@inmydreams.com]

Hi demon,

great posts man I agree about using the "tools" that the table provides us like you said and I think the right ones have to be the engineered ones above all(like you mentioned ) - After all CEH says since the very beginning to pay attention at the all the un-conventional moves that can happen on the table.  .  .  we should try to combine all the odd things regarding the layout of the roulette tables with these unconventional tools.   This would help us converging toward a range of combinations that would give us the highest possibilites of trapping more winning numbers then loser ones - we could then focus only on this range of combinations and study them.  

[win3milion@inmydreams.com]

Not to be a killjoy, but this thread will be another fruitless 100-pager if you don't drop this obsession with Charles.  I've just read page 19 of win3million. com for the first time.  It is a tirade of absolute nonsense more indicative of a total lunatic than a disciplined professional of any sort.  Realise that this Charles-man has delusional schizophrenia.  His claims are absurd.  His rants more so.  Get over him and start thinking for yourselves. 

Hi number six,

I agree that in page 19 he sounds really mad but I can tell you that if you read all the other pages you will find that the contents are full of rationallity and common sense - even without the "constant winning bet" subject that site has a lot of usefull infos,I must say it. . at least for me.

cheers

[win3milion@inmydreams.com]

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