Alright, as of late I have been posting and showing results of multiple system test. I have been letting those tests run overnight, only to find when I woke up in the morning a drawdown that would be unacceptable during live play...until now...I hope...haha (at the bottom of this post is the last step I am taking before taking this live)
So, I ran this last test of mine for a total of 330k spins, had a max drawdown of 1,389 units, and most amount of money (total from all bets) on the layout at any given point was 36 units. The final profit after those 330k spins was 4,253 units.
Those stats equal the following (these stats are if you were playing with a bot at BetVoyagers no-zero wheel, where you can do 600 spins an hour)
330,000 spins / 600 spins an hour = 550 hours of play time
550 hours / 24 hours = 22.91 days of play
4,253 unit profit / 22.91 days of play = 184.91 units a day.
So with dollars as units I'm looking at $184 a day profit (with a max drawdown of $1,400 at times)..... - .50 as units, I'm looking at a $92 a day profit (with a max drawdown of $700 at times)...etc.
So, the final step I'm taking before actually doing this you ask?
I bought RouletteAssault (its a roulette bot that works on US online casinos). Now, I didn't buy it for the systems included with it, as I used the free trial that comes with it and they all lost long term (big surprise).
I bought it because you can export the spin data to a .txt file. So, I'm going to let it run for 23 hours on my computer playing at English Harbour (for play money...as the algorithim for play money and real money is the same).
I am then going to import that spin data into RXtreme and then play my system against those spins...if it still works, I'm taking this system live with real money.
If it fails...well...I start over...haha
Oh, I forgot, If you'd like to see this roulette bot I bought work I am going to have a live feed of that running in about ten minutes as well. I won't be at my computer because I won't be able to use it while this thing is running (the online casino window has to remain on top).
Just to clarify, DO NOT BUY the bot. I'm not doing this to test the bot. I'm doing this because the bot allows me to extract the spin data...that's all i'm using it for.
So ignore how the bot is betting. That isn't relevant. I don't care if the bot wins or loses (although after 24 hours, it will lose I'm sure...I tested that already)
You can check out the feed at nolinks://nolinks.livestream.com/liveroulettefeed
Hi RJ
This sounds like a plan. I hope your exported file does well within RX and I hope even more that you make your planned daily increase(Or any increase I guess).
I wish you good luck mate.You deserve it
TSK
Best of luck to you! Spider's Kiss is right, you definitely deserve it - been overworking that mind of yours. Hope it pays off for you.
Quote from: The Spiders Kiss on June 03, 2009, 07:12:38 PM
Hi RJ
This sounds like a plan. I hope your exported file does well within RX and I hope even more that you make your planned daily increase(Or any increase I guess).
I wish you good luck mate.You deserve it
The Spiders Kiss
Quote from: celiza427 on June 03, 2009, 07:29:12 PM
Best of luck to you! Spider's Kiss is right, you definitely deserve it - been overworking that mind of yours. Hope it pays off for you.
Thanks a lot Spider and Celiza! I appreciate the support, this hobby of mine has turned into an obsession, haha. Although, it hasn't become an unhealthy one, so I guess it's alright.
As for the live feed, I'm afraid that won't be able to display that for you guys, as the bandwith required for the ProCaster to work (uses a lot of upload speed...500 kbs and processor power) the casino to work (also uses upload bandwith, as well as download bandwith...and more processor power) and then the "bot" running (also uses even more processor power)... all of this has caused serious lagging, so for me to get an accurate picture of how many spins can be done in a 23 hour period I'm afraid I'm going to have to pretty much let my computer run with ONLY the bot and the casino running.
I will post all of the results, if anybody is interested in seeing them. I will also be sharing the "system" with you guys as well.
Sounds good,
Im wondering what made you choose RouletteAssault and not any other Bots ?
Oh,and one other thing to clarify. In the title, I mentioned that when/if I take this system live I will be using a bot to do so.
It is not the bot from rouletteassault I am in no way saying buy their bot. In fact, I don't reccommend that. I used the free trial for the 48 hours they give you and it doesn't work. I had to buy it to use it for what I'm using it for now.
Anyway, the point of this was to tell you guys that the bot I'm going to be using to employ this system (if I do in fact end up using it) is a bot I am having custom made for me.
Just letting you guys know that so NOBODY thinks I am recommending they buy that bot.
Quote from: BarrCanada on June 03, 2009, 07:48:23 PM
Sounds good,
Im wondering what made you choose RouletteAssault and not any other Bots ?
Their aren't any other bots that work on US casinos.
I just went onto my other computer to check on something, and I figured I would let you guys know.
For anybody that plays at casinos powered by Vegas Technology, if you go into the options screen and turn off the "animation" option you'll get spin results returned to you almost immediately upon hitting spin.
I wanted to see if that held up all the time (by checking the spin data saved by the bot I'm using) and it does.
After some quick math, with the animation option turned off, it is currently doing 3,400 spins an hour. My math for the system I want to take live is based on 600 spins an hour...we'll see how this turns out...haha.
Which time zone are you in?
With that info members wordwide have a better chance of perhaps watching a 'live' session.
Eastern Time Zone (GMT -5:00)
Alright guys, I had a bit of trouble getting that bot to run for a full 8 hours, I kept getting error messages. However, I did finally figure it out and it ran for just over seven hours straight collecting 31,728 spins for me to analyze. If you'd like to download those spins to see if a system of yours will hold up against RNG spins you can do so here: nolinks://vlsroulette.com/actuals-permanences/30k-spins-from-real-rng-vegas-technology-casino-english-harbour/
Remember, the big bonus with these spins as compared to the random numbers generated at Random.Org is that these are generated by the Online Casinos RNG, which is actually a Pseudo Random Number Generator that is using an algorithm to generate the numbers. Random.Org is a TRUE random number generator that uses atmospheric noise to generate ACTUAL random numbers.
Alright, now the for the real new...
I ran my system against those 30k spins that I got from English Harbor and here is how it held up: (picture of the BR Balance Trend is at the Bottom)
Starting BR: 10,000 units
Ending BR: 10,479 units
Net Profit: 479 Units
Lowest BR: 9,757 Units
Largest Drawdown: 379 Units
Most Amount of Money On the Layout at Any Given Moment: 11 units
Number of Times Bets Were Placed: 810 Times
Roughly 10 Bets Placed Per Hour of Play
Now, it collected those 30k spins in real time as if it were playing, and it took a little over 7 hours. So let's round up to 8 hours and here is what we get:
479 units / 8 hours = 59.87 Units Per Hour
59.87 Units Per Hour X 23 Hours = 1,377 Units Per Day
If I had been playing this at an online casinos where the spins come out slower, like BetVoyager (600 spins an hours) here are what the stats would look like:
31,000 Spins / 600 Spins an Hour = 51.6 Hours
51.6 Hours / 24 Hours = 2.15 Days
479 Unit Profit / 2.15 Days = 222 Unit Profit Per Day (Roughly 9 Unit Profit Per Hour)
Now, I don't feel safe enough taking this live yet with only 30k spins tested and 810 bets placed. So what I'm going to do is let this thing run collecting spins from English Harbour for the next 3 days (my custom bot isn't finished yet anyway). Over the course of 3 days I should get roughly 200,000 more spins plus the 30k I already have.
I will then re-test my system against all of those spins and see where I come out. If all goes well, I'll be taking this live and will have it playing live for you guys to watch.
Oh, and I forgot to mention that if for some reason my bot isn't finished by the time I get those 200k spins (assuming it is successful) I will be able to do this manually at a Vegas Technology Casino as the profit per hour is high enough to make it worth my time to do it manually.
Excellent news about the results. Definitely looking forward to your 200k spin test. Max draw down being approx 370 is not bad at all, a bankroll of 500 would definitely suffice. Great job!
Would definitely like give this a go myself if/when you decide to release it.
So, what happened?
That's alot of spins and not a absolute massive BR needed. Would also be very interested in finding out the system after you've tested it for these next 1000's of spins
Unfortunately I had to scrap this idea... :-[ Betting one on Red on one on Black during the tracking spins eats up the bankroll during tracking spins so much no profit is made. In fact it is a loss. So I tried one on black and not one on Red...same thing, just not quite as much of a loss...back to the drawing board I guess
Quote from: rjeaton1 on June 05, 2009, 04:45:18 PM
Unfortunately I had to scrap this idea... :-[ Betting one on Red on one on Black during the tracking spins eats up the bankroll during tracking spins so much no profit is made. In fact it is a loss. So I tried one on black and not one on Red...same thing, just not quite as much of a loss...back to the drawing board I guess
Aww, that's too bad. Don't scrap it completely though. There's still hope left for that bill to pass in Congress to allow Americans to play overseas. It'll still work on a no-zero wheel won't it? If not a no-zero how about @ casinos that don't require a bet to spin?
That bill will pass!
Quote from: TwoCatSam on June 05, 2009, 10:11:50 PM
That bill will pass!
After a lot of this :rtfm: I'm sure, lol.
Gotta believe, we gotta believe.
Alright, so my custom bot should be finished tomorrow (crossing my fingers...)
As soon as it is finished I will let it run in play mode for 12 hours or so and see what happens. If it does alright, I will then put it to Real Money Mode, and I will be doing this live for you guys to watch.
Quote from: rjeaton1 on June 09, 2009, 05:34:51 PM
Alright, so my custom bot should be finished tomorrow (crossing my fingers...)
As soon as it is finished I will let it run in play mode for 12 hours or so and see what happens. If it does alright, I will then put it to Real Money Mode, and I will be doing this live for you guys to watch.
Thanks for the update. I'll definitely be tuning in to watch. If you don't mind me asking, what system will it be using? One we've seen from you before, or something more recent?